SAGE scores, 2015: Top Utah schools in language arts

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  • Chucktesta Logan, UT
    Sept. 1, 2015 8:54 a.m.

    @liberal Larry: Careful there, your party line is showing. There is no cherry picking involved with Charters. They are public ed and required by law to allow anyone to apply and no special preferences can be given. As @Kristie_bl points out, there is so much demand and limited space for what they provide that there are typically lotteries to pick who gets in. What's interesting about Charters are, they draw students from the extremes. You have the ones with extreme disabilities or behavior problems and the extremely gifted ones on the other end. What they have in common is their parents got off the sofa, decided arbitrary lines shouldn't define their child's future, and actually did research and made choices about their child's education. In the three charter schools my children have attended the bullying has been non-existent, something I would think a liberal could get behind. Your comments would strip me of my choices and cram children in an arbitrary school for the sake of "greater student diversity". I think our educational experience has been enriched just fine without your silly diagnosis. They've accomplished things at their schools most can only dream of. My kids' schools made the lists, most in top five, after all.

  • Homer1 MIDVALE, UT
    Aug. 31, 2015 5:49 p.m.

    Charter schools can be a little hard to define because each one is defined by its individual charter which governs much of how it operates. Liberal Larry, there are certainly valid questions regarding educational policy, equity, funding, state financial auditing, admissions (and expulsion) policies, etc. that should be asked and answered concerning charter schools.

    While I can't speak fully to the other charter schools in these rankings, I can say that AMES is chartered specifically to recruit and support students of color and/or students from low income backgrounds or even students who may be the first in their family to attend college. This is done in a lottery system as well so with no gating by test scores or entrance requirements, AMES tries to provide a strong college-directed education for students who may otherwise miss these opportunities. While test scores are one indicator of academic success there are so many other factors involved and multiple indicators to measure this "success" and I hope our policymakers can see beyond one standardized measurement

  • kristie_b1 Ogden, UT
    Aug. 31, 2015 5:19 p.m.

    Charter schools do not get to cherry pick their students. Their students are chosen via a random lottery. I signed up for my daughter's school lottery online. No one met or interviewed her prior to the lottery. She got in by chance.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Aug. 31, 2015 4:56 p.m.

    I would actually think beyond that liberal larry that the charter school students try harder than what I hear is going on many schools where students go C all the way through to be done with it. But also consider I would bet some charter schools failed miserably. I'm sure the Deseret News will come out with its lowest performing schools. Then some charters will look bad there plus then we can hammer those lower socio-economic schools and teachers.

  • liberal larry salt lake City, utah
    Aug. 31, 2015 7:21 a.m.

    Its a shame that the charter schools are allowed to cherry pick so many top performing students from public schools. Having these high achieving students in regular public schools would expose them to greater student diversity, and enrich the educational experience for other students in the public schools.

  • Seek to understand Sandy, UT
    Aug. 31, 2015 12:56 a.m.

    The SAGE has not been proven to be a reliable indicator of academic achievement. The test is in beta phase, and is quite meaningless at this point in time. No one who understands education data could possibly think this test is ready to be used to rank schools. Too bad the DNews is not providing the journalistic neutrality that they should be on this.

    Saying these are the top schools based on an unproven measure is irresponsible.

    In addition to the test being too new to validate, there were high opt-out rates at many schools which also skews the data. They at least ought to post the % of students tested at each school.