What access do ICE, federal agencies have to Utahns' driver's license information?

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  • mrjj69 Bountiful, UT
    July 15, 2019 9:00 p.m.

    "if" facial recognition technology is 100% accurate, i have no problem with it being used to apprehend law breakers. the key word being "if"

  • DaveWY Gilbert, AZ
    July 12, 2019 10:42 a.m.

    Why do some people think this is a right to privacy issue? I fill out a government form and have a government employee take my picture. I voluntarily give the government my name, birth date, address and photograph. It would be dumb of me to expect the government wouldn't use the information I gave them to catch me if I was committing a crime. Why would I not want the law enforcement agencies we ask to keep us safe from terrorist or criminal activity to use the information they have to do the job? Seems like a no-brainer.

  • shamrock Salt Lake City, UT
    July 12, 2019 9:58 a.m.

    The headline asks "What access do ICE, federal agencies have to Utahns' driver's license information?"

    The answer, it appears, is that Utah officials don't have a coherent policy and don't even have a clear idea of how many Utahns' privacy rights may have been violated. That's bad records management and unacceptable.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    July 12, 2019 9:44 a.m.

    I guess I'm just too patriotic to be an ICE fan. I love this part of the Constitution that I like to call the "4th Amendment."

    "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

  • Nottrue Salt Lake City, UT
    July 12, 2019 7:21 a.m.

    Get all the law breaking illegal aliens in this country! Report them and deport them! They don't belong here! Let ICE do their jobs! Of course the media is the bad guys for lying about ICE doing what they were meant to do.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    July 12, 2019 2:05 a.m.

    Is anyone--including media--half as worried about federal agents having access to Utah's concealed carry permit database as they are to them having access to our driver license database?

    Gun owners are constantly told, "If you have nothing to hide..." or "If it saves just one life..." Demands are made for ever more invasive background checks as a condition of buying or owning a gun.

    I guess when it comes to the feds accessing personal information and State databases, what is good for the goose of gun owners is unacceptable for the gander of gun haters.

    But what power you give govt to use against those you dislike, will be available to used against yourself sooner or later.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    July 11, 2019 8:23 p.m.

    I hope they have access to everything and I hope it helps them find people who are breaking the law, who are here illegally, or have anything to hide. This makes it easier for the federal government to protect innocent citizens of this country. Every law-abiding citizen should be telling their elected representatives that they want the federal government to have access to every piece of information that helps them do their job more efficiently

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    July 11, 2019 7:36 p.m.

    If people are here legally, they haven't or aren't breaking the law, they don't need to worry. If they are doing these things they probably do need to worry.

  • What!? Saratoga Springs, UT
    July 11, 2019 7:19 p.m.

    What we gonna do though. I don't have much to worry about personally in this particular context. I'm a 70ish pinkish/beighy colored old guy of european descent.
    But government being what government is today they'll scope us out with impunity any time and any way they want.

  • mallow Pleasant Grove, UT
    July 11, 2019 5:33 p.m.

    Why are we having to spend so much time and money on this witch hunt? I agree that we should be careful about letting people into the country, but if people are already here and are disobeying the law simply to protect themselves, but otherwise are decent citizens, we'd be better off encouraging them to work, pay taxes, and work on getting legal. Then we'd have more money to spend on getting rid of those who are committing crimes and should be sent home, or incarcerated at the expense of whoever encouraged, supported them or allowed them to come here.

  • Robert Kuesterman West Valley City, UT
    July 11, 2019 5:23 p.m.

    Biscuit - , 00 said, " Trust AP to write up an article that puts the blame on ICE."

    It was not an AP article, it was a Deseret News article. And it did not "[put] the blame on ICE." It was only an article on what access federal agency had to state databases.

  • bamafone Salem, UT
    July 11, 2019 5:15 p.m.

    I hope they have complete access.

  • Biscuit , 00
    July 11, 2019 5:10 p.m.

    ICE is not the bad guys here. They're just trying to do their job. Trust AP to write up an article that puts the blame on ICE.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    July 11, 2019 4:59 p.m.

    I guess the solution is to get a fake drivers license. Seems to work for underage college students. I'm always amazed at how conservatives have no problem with "Big Brother" peering into Americans' windows as long as "Big Brother" doesn't peer into their windows.

  • shamrock Salt Lake City, UT
    July 11, 2019 4:35 p.m.

    Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 11, 2019 4:34 p.m.

    So, it's fine to ignore immigration laws, but bad to ignore privacy laws?

    "[The immigration lawyer] said he sees, undocumented immigrants and even legal permanent residents — on advice from immigration lawyers — are not getting driver's licenses, meaning they're driving Utah roads without insurance.
    "We're essentially creating a situation where we're encouraging people to break the law," he said.

    Yes, yes you are encouraging people to break the law, multiple laws. First you are advising them not to get the licenses, and second you are failing to recommend they obey immigration laws and go home and apply for legal immigration.

    Why are criminal acts not being prosecuted? Why are people not prosecuted for aiding and abetting people breaking laws?

    Meanwhile, good on ICE and DPS and BCI on cooperating to enforce our laws.

    The legislature needs to repeal driver privilege cards, and then crack down on anyone driving without a license.

  • goodnight-goodluck Salt Lake City, UT
    July 11, 2019 4:29 p.m.

    Why do they have ANY ACCESS to these records absent a warrant signed by a judge??? What are they using the data for? This sounds suspiciously like the plan to install license plate readers on police cars in southern Utah to collect data for the Federal Government.
    Sorry serious governmental over reach here.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    July 11, 2019 4:14 p.m.

    With the NSA, they have total access.

  • patriotstate Cedar City, UT
    July 11, 2019 4:12 p.m.

    The story says that Law Enforcement has searchable access to public data. Why is this an issue, to anyone at all ?

  • VigilanteCaregiver Salt Lake City, UT
    July 11, 2019 3:49 p.m.

    I have no problem with ICE doing this. People like to say it violates our privacy. Our borders and lives are already being violated, and immigration enforcement is looking at pre-existing government records - if this is what it takes to fix the problem then ICE should do it.