Utah Sen. Mitt Romney says rape allegation against President Donald Trump should be 'fully evaluated'

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  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    July 12, 2019 10:02 a.m.

    I'm not a big Trumpie but this accusation reeks of opportunism. I think that she's trying to sell more books.

  • Bountiful Guy Bountiful, UT
    July 1, 2019 7:57 a.m.

    I'm ashamed of Mitt. This is garbage. How can anything this woman alleges in her story be true, unless the store was empty except the two of them. Why would she enter a dressing room with the Donald? If there was a fight, how was there no noise, no wall banging, no trauma/drama, and no one told. Why did the story emerge exactly with the timing before re-election? Since the garbage stories of 2015/2016 didn't win the election for Hillary, is this more Dem business as usual before 2020? Few believed Anita Hill. Dems didn't believe Dem women about Bill. Is it surprising that Repubs don't believe stories about Kavanaugh and Trump? All investigations on these and many more events prove to be a waste of time.

    Dem strategy is clear. Everything anti-Trump. No border crisis, no Iran threat, no North Korea threat, no China threat, no Russian threat, no economy improvement because of Trump, no jobs improvement, lower taxes kills jobs (when the opposite is proven to be true), and everything good that Trump does was Obama's greatness. I'd like to see the Dems show their value by making great things happen on the legislative front. Bipartisanship is gone in D.C.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    June 28, 2019 2:26 p.m.

    I am astounded at the pass given to an alleged rapist....

  • Eponymous Eggplant Salt Lake City, UT
    June 27, 2019 1:56 p.m.

    @Joe Leaphorn: "How many "Christians" wanted to lynch Barack Obama at Tea Party rallies?"

    Uh, what?! That is an extremely serious accusation to lob at conservatives. Citation please? Pardon me if, until I see proof, I consider that charge to be a leftist fabrication.

    Fake hate crime accusations are just as serious as actual hate crimes. One should be extremely careful about spreading unsubstantiated rumors just because they comport with one's worldview.

  • VigilanteCaregiver Salt Lake City, UT
    June 27, 2019 1:12 p.m.

    There have been so many false allegations of rape over the last several years that I just cannot believe someone who relies only on ethos and pathos as burden of proof. I need to witness substantive and empirical evidence that a crime has happened before I'll act. This is just more lies and manipulations against their enemy that's not my problem.

    All this from people in power who have brought success at bringing nothing positive for the disabled population and those who care for them! Their single focus on political accusations does not solve real social problems!

  • mohokat , 00
    June 27, 2019 10:00 a.m.

    Romney cannot accept that Donald Trump did something that Romney could not do. Both are businessmen who always wanted to be president. Instead of accepting the result like a man, Romney is doing what he can to undermine the president.

  • J. Smith Salt Lake City, UT
    June 27, 2019 8:51 a.m.

    I agree Senator however the Republicans and the far "christian" right have given Trump a free pass when it comes to morality, lawlessness, lying and sexual philandering......

  • shamrock Salt Lake City, UT
    June 27, 2019 8:40 a.m.

    @RiDal writes: "You realize that Stormy Daniels even lost her court case and was forced to pay Trump $293K in court fees for her false allegations and defamation...right?"

    Actually, RiDal, that's untrue. The judge never ruled that Stormy Daniels' allegations were false. Instead, he held that in the hurly-burly of political discourse, the First Amendment allowed Trump to make statements that were "hyperbolic" and untrue. Similarly, in a 1988 case, SCOTUS ruled that Hustler magazine had a First Amendment right to publish a parody ad alleging that Jerry Falwell had sex with his mother in an outhouse.

    When it comes to legal cases, it's important to notice what the court really ruled, and not just how your favorite website chooses to spin the case.

  • Joe Leaphorn Scottsdale, AZ
    June 27, 2019 12:59 a.m.

    Desert Dog - Layton, UT
    June 26, 2019 3:49 p.m.

    "Yes, let's spend another 35 million dollars to investigate this fraud as well."

    Where? This is not a government investigation like either the Mueller probe or the Hillary investigation that took years under a Republican House. You need to get the source of the crime right to know which jurisdiction has authority.

    Are you one of those Republicans who believe that it's OK to investigate Democrats for whatever cost and however long to get a conviction. Or are you only interested in protecting Donald Trump?

    Dee Conner - Ivins, UT
    June 26, 2019 3:11 p.m.

    " . . . Christians are taught to "judge not, but by their fruits ye shall know them."

    What? Or do you mean not judging their guy? But the other guy is fair game? What kind of "Christian" chants "Lock Her Up" at Trump rallies? How many "Christians" wanted to lynch Barack Obama at Tea Party rallies? What type of "Christian" marches at Charlottesville and let's little children suffer in squalor at the border in internment camps?

    And by "their fruits" do you mean taking children from their parents and putting them in squalid detention facilities?

  • skeptic Phoenix, AZ
    June 26, 2019 9:52 p.m.

    Trump has social problems that control his behavior beyond his control. He needs help. The despicable actions are those who exploit Trumps weakness for their own gain and purpose.

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    June 26, 2019 9:44 p.m.

    Mitt, if you spent half of your moral outrage against the Democrats, rather than Donald Trump, then you might have some semblance of credibility. Right now, you have none.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    June 26, 2019 6:26 p.m.

    The only way Trump will ever clean his name from these accusations is for them to be fully investigated, and if he is innocent of these claims, he will have vindication.

    I've been involved in these kind of cases before, and without a full investigation, no one is safe. I'v been involved in a case where accusations were made, and ultimately the legal process uncovered the falseness of the claims. I've been also involved in a case where the opposite was true, and it was the only way for the victim to have their claims believed.

    Either way, doing a full investigation is the only way to the truth. Anything less leaves a stain on one of the other, or both. Trump supporters should demand a quick, thorough, investigation.

  • peabody Steamboat Springs, CO
    June 26, 2019 5:00 p.m.

    Believe the women.

  • Mad Hatter Albuquerque, NM
    June 26, 2019 4:30 p.m.

    sman - columbia, MS
    June 26, 2019 3:11 p.m.

    "The story has already been discredited . . . "

    Where? Please give the reference so we can all read it. Maybe you are referring to Fox News, but where else could it have been discredited? Breitbart? InfoWars? Curious people want to k ow your source of information. We don't want to make false accusations, but we would like the truth. Did he or didn't he? There is so much history here. Adultery. Sexual assault. Promiscuity. Sleeping around with different women for years. "Locker room talk." How do we decide? You tell me.

    It's not that you just don't like it. That doesn't work. But 21 other complaints lend credibility along with Donald Trump's history. There is a story in Howard Stern's new book about Trump and another caller on the show arguing about a woman they shared and who did better in bed. Obviously he was never reluctant to talk about his conquests before.

  • Janet Pete Salt Lake City, UT
    June 26, 2019 4:14 p.m.

    Linus - Bountiful, UT
    June 26, 2019 2:52 p.m.

    "Trump saved . . . "

    If you want to believe this, okay. It's what you hear on Fox News all the time. Donald Trump is great. Everything's great. You just keep believing. He's going to be happy that you support him in every way you can. He desperately needs all the support he can get.

    Like he said, he's the only one who can fix things and Fox will always tells all that he's fixing. Why he's got Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Rush Limbaugh and every other fringe commentator telling us the same thing. He along brought us a booming economy. He's bringing us world peace. He is saving us from the immigrant menace. He's setting the moral standard for a new America. Who couldn't want more?

    And remember, it's all Hillary's and Democrat's fault for all the bad that is happening today. Obama, as you've stated, made a mess and Trump is leading us into the light, making American what it was in its days of grandeur when a select group of white people had it pretty good and those not like them knew their place. It was a wonderful time when we could say "Merry Christmas" without being criticized and a man like Trump could get rich and famous.

  • Desert Dog Layton, UT
    June 26, 2019 3:49 p.m.

    Yes, let's spend another 35 million dollars to investigate this fraud as well.

  • Dee Conner Ivins, UT
    June 26, 2019 3:11 p.m.

    Jmason from San Diego:

    You may not know that Christians are taught to “judge not,” but “by their fruits ye shall know them.” We are not to judge a person’s character flaws, past mistakes, or gossip about them. Frankly, the Trump Tree has produced some pretty incredible fruit! That’s the ONLY truth I know.

    Remember people, your opinion only matters at the voting booth.... pass it on! Trump 2020!

  • sman columbia, MS
    June 26, 2019 3:11 p.m.

    The story has already been discredited and will disappear. The only thing that explains Mitt Romney actions is he wants to be President and Trump is in his way.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    June 26, 2019 3:10 p.m.

    @Linus

    You forgot the part where Trump also build concentration camps for kids.

    Yes, please, Romney...stop him!

  • chilly Salt Lake City, UT
    June 26, 2019 3:10 p.m.

    This proves Mitt doesn't watch Law and Order. The accuser's whole plot line comes from an old episode. She used the same details about the store (Bergdoff in Manhattan) and the "trying on of lingere".

  • David Centerville, UT
    June 26, 2019 3:06 p.m.

    Once again, Romney is 100% correct. If there is a rape allegation, it should be taken seriously. Will it be difficult to establish the validity of the allegation after 20 years? It does seem suspicious that these allegations are just now coming forward.

    A full investigation will either show Trump actually did rape this woman, at which point he should go to jail, or it will show the woman is lying. If she is lying, there should be a penalty she faces--defamation lawsuit, criminal charges, etc.

  • Mainly Me Werribee, 00
    June 26, 2019 3:07 p.m.

    Mr. Soundbite strikes again. It seems to me that he's setting himself up for another bid at the presidency.

  • Linus Bountiful, UT
    June 26, 2019 2:52 p.m.

    Trump saved the broken economy. Trump defended the constitution with his Supreme Court Nominations. Trump defends life and abhors infanticide. Trump defends America's borders. Trump reformed prison and sentencing abuses. Trump reduced poverty. Trump reduced food-stamp dependency. Trump requires fair trade policies. Trump refuses to accept a nuclear North Korea and a nuclear Iran. Trump sets records in the reduction of unemployment across the board. Trump opposes endless wars, practices restraint, but wields a big stick. Trump rebuilt America's military strength. Stop him, Mr. Romney! Stop him!

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    June 26, 2019 2:47 p.m.

    I'm not understanding why anyone (Republican or Democrat) would be opposed to a full and thorough investigation of these claims. If he's innocent - as Trumpublicans insist he is - then an investigation would prove it.

    Tell me what is the downside is of an investigation? Tell me what is the downside of letting the light shine in?

  • California94131 SF, CA
    June 26, 2019 2:35 p.m.

    Twenty years after whatever happened or allegedly happened, no one's version of this episode is going to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to a moral certainty, the legal standard for convicting someone of a crime. So there isn't much point in having a criminal investigation.

    The possible fly in that ointment would be the coat she says she still has. Could it be as incriminating as The Blue Dress? If he wants to help prove his innocence, he will have no problem providing a DNA sample. If she wants to help prove that he attacked her, she will have no problem getting it analyzed.

    Without any physical evidence, I think most reasonable people would be willing to consider the preponderance of circumstantial evidence, a pattern of behavior where the alleged action in question is totally in character, and the existence of numerous accusers and accusations.

    Smoke --- fire.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    June 26, 2019 2:17 p.m.

    silo - Sandy, UT said: "@ridal @vanceone "Honest question. If Trump came out and admitted to assaulting this woman, or any of the 20+ women who are also accusing him, would it change your support for him in the slightest?"

    Yes, it would.
    But just like the "Russian collusion investigation", the Kavanaugh hearings, the "Covington School boys", the Jussie Smollett case, the accusations by Michael Avanatti, and the Stormy Daniels case, we now know that some people are willing to lie and the media is willing to promote those lies out of hatred for Trump.

    You realize that Stormy Daniels even lost her court case and was forced to pay Trump $293K in court fees for her false allegations and defamation...right ? CNN didn't cover that part ?

  • Mad Hatter Albuquerque, NM
    June 26, 2019 2:17 p.m.

    Vanceone - Provo, UT
    June 26, 2019 1:26 p.m.

    "There's well over 20 accusations of murder laid against Hillary Clinton by a lot of people."

    All of which have been debunked by both Republican House committee investigations and the media. None of this exists except with Fox News talking heads. You don't even hear this with the Fox News journalists who have a difficult time convincing the Fox viewship that there is a difference between the news division and the entertainment/opinion division.

    Let's see the court records, open up the non-disclosure agreements, and we can finally see the extent of Donald Trump's activities. Have an investigation and see how much of a sexual predator he is. We know how he has cheated on three wives (Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal are only two that we know about) and how sexually active he was in his younger days working hard not to catch a venereal disease from all the women he said he had sex with.

    If anything, his history of sexual activity (much of which he bragged about) only adds credibility to the charge. But despite this, Trump apologists and surrogates excuse his behavior to have him in office to give them what they want.

  • Joe Leaphorn Scottsdale, AZ
    June 26, 2019 2:04 p.m.

    Ltrain - St. George, UT
    June 26, 2019 1:43 p.m.

    "This allegation is a complete joke! The Trump haters have no line they will not cross!!!"

    A joke, you say? Why do you think it a joke? Because she is not the type of woman that Donald Trump would choose to sexually assault and rape? And what type of woman is it considering what he said on the 'Access Hollywood' video where he talked about the need for some tic-tacs so he could grab and kiss the woman who came to greet hi?

    Was Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal a joke when he had his affairs with them while his wife took care of their newborn son? How did you feel about his history of adultery that is well-documented in the tabloid press. And when he was avoiding getting STDs in the NY dating scene after avoiding service in Vietnam, did you think the guy was really chaste and celibate?

    With all this, do you still think it inconceivable that Trump was incapable of assaulting 22 other women beyond those who never spoke out. This is a man who craved power over women and would seek them out to have sexual dominance to prove his own manhood. He was rich and famous. What woman would not want his advances? In his eyes, none.

  • bamafone Salem, UT
    June 26, 2019 2:04 p.m.

    The once abortion supporting and socialized health care architect Mitt Romney is now the purveyor of all things immoral about Trump. Imagine, a member of his faith in favor of the right to end the life of an unborn child. The opportunist is like the emperor with no clothes. Your arrogance of moral superiority is truly astounding, almost mind bogglingly prideful and pompous. The hypocrite is the most distasteful in all of society.

  • Petunia56 83686, 00
    June 26, 2019 1:54 p.m.

    I am so tired of all these accusations. If people would get behind President Trump instead of being against him, our borders would be secure, healthcare wouldn't be an issue, and more jobs would be in place. President Trump is doing a fantastic job and gets no support. Once someone says something about President Trump concerning these types of accusations, he is already guilty. He is never given a break. Mitt you might as well be a Democrat because you are now showing your true colors.

  • Mackenzie Iwamoto , NY
    June 26, 2019 1:52 p.m.

    Apparently the Trump apologists are up in arms concerning the allegation of rape by E. Jane Carroll when they have already accepted the fact that Donald Trump has an unsavory history of sexual aggression that they would not tolerate by a member of their own family. There is something with Trump that they find acceptable despite his sordid past. So they make noise despite the actions of this man.

    They know about payoffs to women and the non-disclosure agreements. They know about the 22 reported sexual assaults which they waved off as insignificant. They know about the 'Access Hollywood' video and Trump's penchant to sexually assault women because he is rich and famous and "can do anything [he] wants"

    This is old news to them and they know that Ms Carroll is credible. As with Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. Trump fought his Vietnam avoiding STDs. Nothing stops him because he feels entitled to do whatever he wants. Just listen to what he said on Howard Stern and in the NY tabloids. So why are they do adamant about Ms Carroll and this latest charge? They know he's no innocent. He said "she's not my type", meaning, there are women who are his type he would assault and rape?

  • Really!? Logan, UT
    June 26, 2019 1:48 p.m.

    Mitt, please stop jumping on the band wagon of every false claim by the left against President Trump. You don’t like him, he beat you, we get it. But you look like an idiot when you do it and you’re making the whole state look bad. Stop it! The lady’s already been debunked.

  • Ltrain St. George, UT
    June 26, 2019 1:43 p.m.

    Mitt is an embarrassment to this state and he should resign immediately and return to Massachusetts. This allegation is a complete joke! The Trump haters have no line they will not cross!!!

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    June 26, 2019 1:41 p.m.

    "Romney wasn't the only Republican who said Carroll's allegation should be explored, though most GOP lawmakers CNN questioned shied away from the issue and defended Trump."
    ____________________
    And that's why Trump has nothing to fear from an inquiry. Regardless of what evidence may emerge, when put to the test the Republican Party will always have his back. That's his ace in the hole.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    June 26, 2019 1:39 p.m.

    Mitt sounds like a Democrat and should keep his comments to himself.

    According to honest Harry Reid. Mitt went ten years without paying taxes.

    He should be fully evaluated!

  • silo Sandy, UT
    June 26, 2019 1:29 p.m.

    @ridal @vanceone

    Honest question. If Trump came out and admitted to assaulting this woman, or any of the 20+ women who are also accusing him, would it change your support for him in the slightest?

  • jmason San Diego, CA
    June 26, 2019 1:24 p.m.

    I can't believe the denial that still exists among LDS Trump supporters. Carroll is the 22nd woman to accuse Trump of sexual misconduct, plus we have him on a hot mic (the Billy Bush tape) saying (in the crudest terms imaginable) that, because he is a celebrity, he is able to sexually assault women at will.

    Donald Trump is morally corrupt to the tips of his fingers. In the words of Republican Bill Weld, he is "a one-man crime wave."

    Sen. Romney has to walk a fine line when it comes to Trump. We know what he really thinks of him (that he is a "con man"), but yet he has to work inside a Republican Party that has sold its soul for Trump.

    After Trump, will the Republicans every again be able to claim the moral high ground? I don't think so.

  • AlagnakLounger Heber City, UT
    June 26, 2019 1:07 p.m.

    Yes, women should be heard with regard to sexual assault allegations. However, a woman's right to be heard should never trump (no pun intended) the presumption of innocence. After hearing this woman's dumpster fire interview on CNN, I wonder if ol' Mitt would have the same attitude if it was his son or brother as the one accused?

  • CH Cougar PLEASANT GROVE, UT
    June 26, 2019 1:04 p.m.

    @Impartial7:
    "Where there's smoke, there's fire..."
    Actually this is not always the case. In this particular instance, I see a lot of hot air coming from some very incredible sources who want attention and book sales.

  • Daedalus, Stephen Arvada, CO
    June 26, 2019 12:52 p.m.

    If Trump falls through for the GOP's 2020 nomination, there is always Bill Cosby.

  • zgomer Salt Lake City, UT
    June 26, 2019 12:52 p.m.

    Romney needs to be evaluated. More nonsense by the leftist media fools and lib lies. Why wasn't brought up 20 years ago!

  • military mom Herriman, UT
    June 26, 2019 12:52 p.m.

    And of course we should always believe the President because he has such a stellar record when it comes to telling the truth; his defense of "she's not my type" is so reassuring.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    June 26, 2019 12:50 p.m.

    At this point it might just be easier to count the American women who haven't been sexually assaulted by Donald Trump. It would make the math easier.

  • Laura Bilington Maple Valley, WA
    June 26, 2019 12:50 p.m.

    Vanceone wrote,
    "Or, you could stop carrying water for the left and actually be a Republican. For a change."

    Yes, Mitt, be a Republican.

    We need more children in cages, a war with Iran, and more tax breaks for the top 1%.

    Although the war with Iran will be short and sweet, with no American casualties. Just ask John Bolton.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    June 26, 2019 12:42 p.m.

    @Impartial7: Well, I guess they got a few well-known Trump-haters to buy it! :D

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    June 26, 2019 12:23 p.m.

    @RiDal;
    "The allegations are just laughably preposterous. Futhermore, even though the accuser has never mentioned these accusations before, she has just released a new book.
    Coincidence ? LOL!"

    You think this is an LOL situation? Typical of a MAGA guy. Plus, if you did even a little research (FOX News doesn't count) you'd know that she told her friends right after it happened and that they confirmed it. Trump was a wealthy guy that employed Roy Cohn, a Mafia lawyer. And you wonder why she was scared? What kind of honest person/businessman needs a mob lawyer to handle personal issues? Donald Trump.

  • Truth Seeker , 00
    June 26, 2019 12:23 p.m.

    Mitt Romney should be "fully evaluated" by every Republican in the state. He is a RINO. I hope the voters will remember this when he is up for reelection.
    There is not one piece of evidence that this ever happened. She has never said one word about this to anyone in over 20 Yrs. It just so happens she wrote a book and what better way to help sales that to accuse the President of rape. She has made the rounds on the MSM stations pleading her case. Watch some of the videos of her interviews and decide for yourself just how truthful she sounds. She is doing a disservice to all women because when it really happens they will not be believed.
    The Democrats are trying to shift our justice system to guilty until proven innocent. This is not right for any American.

  • Yuge Opportunity Here Mapleton, UT
    June 26, 2019 12:21 p.m.

    Yet again, Mitt Romney channels Megan McCain.

    A woman writing a book must be believed as she alleges something that happened 25 years ago with the president.

    Media outlets lap it.

    On cue, Romney responds on behalf of the Establishment.

    Also on cue, the D News writes it all up.

    Propaganda of the absurd.

  • drich Green River, UT
    June 26, 2019 12:19 p.m.

    Why didn't she say something twenty years ago. Now it becomes a she said, he said story.

  • Count Rushmore Salt Lake City, UT
    June 26, 2019 12:06 p.m.

    Yes, the similarities between Carroll's allegations (not to mention the "fantasies" she describes in various televised interviews) and an episode of Law and Order should be carefully evaluated.

    Never forget the left's standard of (in)justice: "Where there's smoke, there's fire." In their minds, due process, including the requirement that evidence be authentic and reliable is injustice, and all that's needed is an allegation, no matter how far-fetched. These people must never again be given power in the USA.

  • Rick for Truth Provo, UT
    June 26, 2019 11:54 a.m.

    Ms. Carroll’s allegations are so unbelievable that CNN dropped her in mid interview like a hot potato. It turns out it’s all based on a TV show episode! Yet good old anti-never Trumper Mitt says we need to further evaluate these claims, by the way Mitt, she can’t even remember what year this fantasy occurred.

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    June 26, 2019 11:52 a.m.

    I've evaluated it. The accuser claims that most people think rape is sexy. The entire story is identical to the plot line of Season 13, Episode 11 (#283 overall), called "Theater Tricks" with guest star Kevin Pollak of Law and Order, SVU. Aired January 11, 2012.

    Down to the actual alleged high end department store, the story put forth by this woman is identical to that episode.

    Plus, this accuser has openly had a meltdown on air, and in short: Romney, you are a loon. I must ask, though, whether we should have a full investigation of your binders of women and dogs on car roofs. After all, those are serious allegations that must be fully evaluated. Right?

    Or, you could stop carrying water for the left and actually be a Republican. For a change. It might go against your leftist heart, but try being a Republican like Mike Lee for once, not farther left than Nancy Pelosi.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    June 26, 2019 11:40 a.m.

    The rape allegations against Trump have been pretty thoroughly evaluated, in an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper (certainly no Trump apologist).
    The allegations are just laughably preposterous. Futhermore, even though the accuser has never mentioned these accusations before, she has just released a new book.
    Coincidence ? LOL!
    Sex allegations are now a lucrative industry thanks to the "All survivors must be believed...regardless of how preposterous!" narrative.

    The real damage is that it reduces the tendency to believe credible allegations.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    June 26, 2019 11:37 a.m.

    This makes 22 women (who knows how many he paid to keep quiet) who have accused Trump of sexual assault. Where there's smoke, there's fire. What I don't understand is the "Christian right" that supports an admitted adulterer and a guy that bragged about sexual assault, caught on tape. I guess their hatred of muslims and immigrants override their values of morality or love for one another.