House passes emergency funding bill for migrant care crisis

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  • n8ive american Shelley, Idaho
    June 29, 2019 12:37 p.m.

    @Impartial7 - DRAPER, UT
    June 25, 2019 2:06 p.m.
    @n8ive american - Shelley, Idaho
    June 25, 2019 11:30 a.m.
    How about emergency funding to build the wall? "

    "Um, because Trump promised that Mexico was going to pay for the wall-remember? And, all of the Trumpsters at his rally's repeated it. Dozens of times. You can look it up. Trump said so."

    I don't care who pays for the wall. It's still cheaper than the billions we spend yearly to support illegals.

    There are republicans who would use money seized at the border to fund it, but, demsters won't allow it. Take the blinders off.

  • SC Matt Saline, MI
    June 26, 2019 8:26 p.m.

    @JoeHill:

    "except for the fact that democrats have proposed changes several times and been shut down by republicans."

    Right now the Senate has passed a bill that has more than 2/3 support of Senate *democrats.*

    Only 6 Democrats in the Senate voted against it.

    I want a solid immigration solution. All the House needs to do is pick up the Senate bill that was voted upon favorably by over 2/3 of their Senate colleagues, and they can pass a bill without the President's signature.

    Enough of the blame game. Somebody's going to have to pass a bill someday. Now's the time, don't you think?

    Or do you want to hold out for the House bill that had zero Republican support?

    @Tolstoy:

    "Under the Law anyone seeking asylums has the right to present themselves to border security anywhere along the border and ask for asylum."

    I agree. But they need more facilities at the border. The Senate bill does this. Are you opposed?

    I prefer a real solution. I don't like the constant back and forth blame game. It's time to solve it.

    And the Republican controlled Senate is playing grown-up compared to the people running the house. (For once. I pray that it will last. I am probably wrong.)

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    June 26, 2019 1:19 p.m.

    @SC Matt

    "Blaming the executive for faithfully following the laws on the books..."

    the problem is he is not following the law (asylum seeking laws) and he is blatantly ignoring court rulings on detentions. Under the Law anyone seeking asylums has the right to present themselves to border security anywhere along the border and ask for asylum. under Trump this is not being allowed and instead they are finding gates and doors literally locked. He is also ignoring court rulings regarding how the detention centers are being run, so no he is not faithfully following the law.

  • Joe Hilll Salt Lake City, UT
    June 26, 2019 1:10 p.m.

    @SC Matt
    except for the fact that democrats have proposed changes several times and been shut down by republicans. How may different times have democrats tried to do simple DACA reforms alone and been shut down by either Senate republicans and/or the president so no Trump does not get a pass.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    June 26, 2019 12:24 p.m.

    Imp7
    Do you know the difference between the governor of a state and a member of congress? If you did you would not compare nancy and Herbert.

    And just because you don’t see herbert’s charitable contributions, are you safe in assuming he does not make them? Same goes for worf and nancy, but we know liberals donate a lot less in time and money than do conservatives, so worf’s assumption is probably safer

    Itsjustpyrite
    The chief executive is not supposed to be able to pick and choose which parts of the law are enforced. If there are cruel parts, it’s the fault of congress for not fixing them.

  • SC Matt Saline, MI
    June 26, 2019 11:13 a.m.

    @Itsjustpyrite:

    "Everyone saying that Obama had the same rules under his presidency doesn't bother to state that his administration didn't Force [sic] the crueler parts of the laws."

    Blaming the executive for faithfully following the laws on the books is a lazy excuse. Congress has the power to change the laws, even above a Presidential veto if they can get 2/3 support.

    And in actual fact, if they craft a law that the President will sign (like the Senate bill) then they only need 50% + 1.

    They could have done this during Obama's term. They could have done it when they had 60 Senators. Republicans could have provided these funds when they had majority control of both the House and Senate. The bi-partisan Senate bill the article talks about could have easily passed through a Paul Ryan controlled House.

    But that Senate wasn't interested in crafting a bi-partisan bill back then.

    I really don't like Trump. But if he can get the Congress to work together, then great.

    And if he exposes the House of Representatives as a partisan obstacle to progress, well, that at least is nothing new.

    Unfortunate, but not new.

  • SC Matt Saline, MI
    June 26, 2019 11:03 a.m.

    @McClark:

    "Trump has said he plans to veto this bill. So why are you claiming its the Democrats who dont want to help these people?"

    The article said that Trump plans to veto the partisan House bill that passed without a single Republican vote. The article also said that Trump is expected to refuse the advice of hard-line conservatives who want him to veto the bi-partisan Senate bill.

    I support immigration, and I think we need better (and more) facilities on the border. But right now, it appears that it's Democrats who stand in the way here. Specifically House Democrats.

    And it has been that way for a few decades at least. Neither party wants to be seen as compromising in the immigration debate. So, when there's a Democrat as president, Republicans obstruct. And with a Republican president, Democrats obstruct.

    It's not a new thing.

    Unfortunately.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    June 26, 2019 10:46 a.m.

    Passed a bill for those who are here and we go, but don’t take of your current citizens, that’s the Dems way

  • zipadeedoodah Lehi, UT
    June 26, 2019 9:55 a.m.

    The Ambulance Down In The Valley - Poem by Herbert Nehrlich (written in 1895)

    'Twas a dangerous cliff, as they freely confessed,
    though to walk near its crest was so pleasant;
    but over its terrible edge there had slipped
    a duke and full many a peasant.

    So the people said something would have to be done,
    but their projects did not at all tally;
    some said, 'Put a fence 'round the edge of the cliff, '
    some, 'An ambulance down in the valley.'
    ...
    So day after day, as these mishaps occurred,
    quick forth would those rescuers sally
    to pick up the victims who fell off the cliff,
    with their ambulance down in the valley.

    Then an old sage remarked: 'It's a marvel to me
    that people give far more attention
    to repairing results than to stopping the cause,
    when they'd much better aim at prevention.

    Let us stop at its source all this mischief, ' cried he,
    'come, neighbors and friends, let us rally;
    if the cliff we will fence, we might almost dispense
    with the ambulance down in the valley.'

    What is wrong with the Dems? This is not hard to figure out. Stop the disingenuous dialogue. Get rid of the ambulance and build the wall. It will save the children from these horrible conditions.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    June 26, 2019 9:46 a.m.

    One of the bedrock principles of governance in America is that an elected official becomes part of the corporate body. By oath, the newly-elected sear to uphold the bylaws that govern the group AND the body of existing laws passed by the group previously.

    That holds true of school boards, town councils and even Congress. A new guy can't just waltz in and change everything. Change comes through debate and passing new laws.

    That's the orderly transition we are so proud of. In some countries a new guy can take over by force and do whatever he wants. Not here.

    Pelosi, despite her years in office, doesn't take existing law seriously. That has led to chaos in Congress and chaos at the border.

    If you can't back things up with the law, you don't have a government..

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    June 26, 2019 8:18 a.m.

    Looks like the GOP has found a new pinata, now that Hillary! is no longer in politics.

    Does Trump and his fans always need to belittle a woman, who happens to be in charge to make themselves feel better?

  • quackquack Park City, UT
    June 26, 2019 7:45 a.m.

    Interesting, so I know many of the comments here are going to be about wasting tax dollars on foreigners, but you got understand the bill before criticizing it. I too feel we should be spending funding else were but the funding also includes infrastructure as in judges, police, and social workers.

    People this problem is just going to get worse by the day and we need to start putting a stop to it. If not they just keep coming and they'll just keep finding a way in.

  • FanOfTheSith Vernal, UT
    June 26, 2019 2:00 a.m.

    And the UN just keeps on sitting on it's well US protected rear end, not doing anything about this too huh?

  • Itsjustpyrite Magna, UT
    June 25, 2019 7:22 p.m.

    Also Mitch McConnell maybe I ought to get off his rump and start looking at some of the proposals and ideas going through the house. Doesn't mean Trump will ever agree to it but why do people say that Democrats are doing nothing when proposals have been submitted but votes are never taken? Mitch McConnell needs some instruction on how to do his job.

  • Itsjustpyrite Magna, UT
    June 25, 2019 7:15 p.m.

    @2 bits. Not so we're considering Trump created this crisis. Everyone saying that Obama had the same rules under his presidency doesn't bother to state that his administration didn't Force the crueler parts of the laws. It's easy when you cherry-pick isn't it?

  • worf McAllen, TX
    June 25, 2019 7:11 p.m.

    Why is Nancy entitled to the earnings of the American people?

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    June 25, 2019 2:55 p.m.

    In case nobody's noticed there is a leadership vacuum in the WH. Nobody is listening to him and his leadership is exacerbating problems instead of solving them.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    June 25, 2019 2:06 p.m.

    @n8ive american - Shelley, Idaho
    June 25, 2019 11:30 a.m.
    How about emergency funding to build the wall? "

    Um, because Trump promised that Mexico was going to pay for the wall-remember? And, all of the Trumpsters at his rally's repeated it. Dozens of times. You can look it up. Trump said so.

    And, worf;
    " Nancy has homeless people just a few blocks from her California home. Emergency funding is needed in her neighborhood.
    Before taking the earnings from American citizens, does she donate her funds for the homeless? "

    So does Gary Herbert. But, I don't see him donating his funds to fix the problem in his State.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    June 25, 2019 1:55 p.m.

    Nancy has homeless people just a few blocks from her California home. Emergency funding is needed in her neighborhood.

    Before taking the earnings from American citizens, does she donate her funds for the homeless?

    A leader must lead by example.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    June 25, 2019 1:03 p.m.

    Trump has said he plans to veto this bill. So why are you claiming its the Democrats who dont want to help these people?

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    June 25, 2019 1:00 p.m.

    Too bad the Democrats won't help fix the problem, rather than trying to live with it by funding taxpayer dollars. Shameful.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    June 25, 2019 12:57 p.m.

    Legal immigrants don't need the help. Taxpayers supporting illegal immigrants is bordering on insanity. Are there no limits to our resources? Isn't over $100 trillion real debt and liabilities enough for liberals? We cannot tax and borrow to support the entire world.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 25, 2019 12:29 p.m.

    Back when the President and the Border Patrol asked for these emergency funds (and Nancy Pelosi refused to approve them)... She said we can't afford it (but we CAN afford to fund the New Green Deal)?

    The New Green Deal will cost thousands of times what border security does. And we can afford the New Green Deal, but not Border Security?

    Google "how much will new green deal cost"...
    "The energy and environmental components of the Green New Deal would cost $8.3 trillion to $12.3 trillion"...

    And we can't afford 5 billion to insure security and jobs of our citizens?

    That's what the Government is for! To protect us (not illegal immigrants).

    ===

    She said the President's wall is "Immoral"....

    Well evidently it wasn't "Immoral" when she voted FOR the Secure Fence Act of 2006. And voted to fund more border wall construction in 2015 (Obama's last year in office).

    Seems it only became "immoral" to her the day Trump took office, doesn't it?

    If anybody can't see that this is just politics, and pandering for votes... they need their head examined.

    ===

    I hope they get the funds. We need border security. Not only for us, but for the people on the other side of the border as well.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    June 25, 2019 12:10 p.m.

    Why is the headline afraid to indicate that these are not just immigrants, but illegal aliens? No less human, but still illegal.

    The border patrol has been asking for the additional funds for a while nancy, only after you could blame the poor conditions on trump did you decide to do anything about it. All funding appropriations are supposed to start in the house.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 25, 2019 11:48 a.m.

    RE: "House looks set to pass EMERGENCY funding bill for migrants"...
    ---
    Weird... Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer lost their minds when the President called it an "Emergency" recently,

    Now it's Pelosi calling it an "Emergency"... weird.

    All the President asked for back then was an additional $5 Billion (chump-change to Congress) to increase border security, and yes... build additional sections of the wall (the same wall President Obama got funding for in 2015, one year before Trump took office. The same wall Hillary Clinton would have built (if she won). The same wall we will continue building and enhancing after Trump is long gone.

    We need border security. The people on both sides of the border need border security.

    A fence makes good neighbors. This goes for nations with a shared border as well. If those borders are in dispute, or those borders are frequently violated.... then there will be frequent problems like we are having today.

    If what's happening today is a shocker to ANYBODY in Congress... they need to be un-elected ASAP. This emergency/crisis was obviously coming. And they refused to prevent it.

  • n8ive american Shelley, Idaho
    June 25, 2019 11:30 a.m.

    How about emergency funding to build the wall? How about criminalizing "sanctuary cities"?
    Get rid of the draw to come here illegally and the crisis will diminish.