Greg Bell: Will conservatives vote for Trump in the 2020 election?

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  • Astoria Jim Mamaroneck, NY
    June 24, 2019 6:53 p.m.

    Regarding Donald Trump: People of faith who are honorable conservatives may face the same problem my wife feared she'd face in 1980.
    She's a person of faith and an honorable liberal who was terrified by the prospect of Ted Kennedy being the Democratic nominee for President against Ronald Reagan.
    She detested Kennedy personally because of Chappaquddick (which occurred 50 years ago next month...on the Friday night before the moon landing) but agreed with him on virtually every issue. She had no ill feelings toward Ronald Reagan, but strongly disagreed with his conservative agenda.
    Fortunately, voters in Democratic primaries spared her of making her decision. But that probably won't happen for Republican voters next year.
    But I think i know what she would have done if Ted Kennedy got the nomination, and the same option is available to conflicted Republicans:
    Stay home. Yes, voting is a sacred right. But voting for neither candidate is, too.

  • Zabilde Riverdale, UT
    June 24, 2019 8:06 a.m.

    Trump was not my choice for the GOP nomination in 2016, but once he had the nomination, in no small part to th Establishment GOP that so hated Ted Cruz that they were willing to hand the Whitehouse to Hillary for four years than support Cruz, the one candidate that had a chance at taking the nomination from Trump after the early open primaries where democrats crossed the line to support the sure fire loser Trump.

    We heard the same complaints about his morality in 2016. But as I told conservative friends who thought that a valid consideration: We aren't voting for the national Pastor, Prophet or Pope, we are voting for an executive.

    Trump's policies made this economy, not Obama's failed policies. Cutting regulations by the thousands have done more for the economy than anything else. The Tax cuts were are nother boost that have increased tax revenues. Yes we still need to do something about the spending addiction congress has. Even Trump has been unhappy about the budget bills he's had to sign.

    Trump 2020, then maybe we can try for a real conservative in 2024.

  • Light and Liberty St George, UT
    June 23, 2019 9:36 p.m.

    Conservatives who support Trump need to spend some time educating themselves about Tariffs. Trump is way ahead of the most Americans in understanding the value and importance of Tariffs. From the founding of this country, Tariffs have been used to protect Americans from the 'free trade' that can destroy our economy and squander our possibilities of this great nation. I love free trade except when countries, as Trump has spoken truly, are taking advantage of us. How? They don't pay taxes. They don't support any of our government programs that many Americans do that come from paying taxes. China doesn't pay for any of that! They are taking advantage of this country's 'free trade'. Bring it all back and their economies crumble and Americans start purchasing from American made products and services. Besides, what we purchase from China is discretionary. Americans don't need to buy products made in China. No body is forcing Americans to buy from China, but if they do, China is taking advantage of our citizens because they don't do anything for us other than selling us a product! Just another of the many reasons to support Trump. Conservatives, educate yourself.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    June 23, 2019 6:39 p.m.

    @David "Fears that Trump will become a dictator, refusing to leave office, is laughable. "

    Well most likely we will find out together. I think it's not laughable at all. I wish we socialists were better prepared for this constitutional breakdown. It's at our doorstep.

  • n8ive american Shelley, Idaho
    June 23, 2019 11:58 a.m.

    Looking at the severe lack of morality and ethics from the left, there is no way I could vote Democrat.

    Unlike the Dark Knight, we conservatives see the corruption and greater immorality of the left and therefore can make a better decision who should lead our great nation. To use his words, "It's a question of whether or not you are a moral human being " How then can you support any candidate who supports late term abortions? So voting against Democrats is an absolute necessity.

    Show me a democrat that is moral, ethical and actually supports the Constitution including the 2nd Amendment and 1st, doesn't put non-citizens above citizens, then I might vote Democrat. But, that's against their beliefs.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    June 23, 2019 10:39 a.m.

    David said: "Fears that Trump will become a dictator, refusing to leave office, is laughable. Conspiracy theories abound on the Left."

    Does sound funny, coming from the same folks claimed Obama wasn't going to leave office.

    Obama didn't even "joke" about it, or say that he deserved another term or claim that 12 or 16 years would work for him, and yet the righties said he was going to, just like the "he's coming for your guns, nonsense.

    It seems less conspiratorial sounding when donald says it, then later says he was joking, especially in light of his, bomb Iran, don't bomb Iran, round em up, don't round em up, right?

    Trump Conservatives ever changing to match the dear leaders last tweet.
    Not conservative.

  • David Centerville, UT
    June 23, 2019 5:29 a.m.

    Fears that Trump will become a dictator, refusing to leave office, is laughable. Conspiracy theories abound on the Left.

    Obama’s economy was sluggish throughout his presidency, even anemic. Trump has breathed fresh air into the US economy, despite his foolish tariffs.

  • majmajor Layton, UT
    June 22, 2019 9:05 p.m.

    Without a conservative on the ballot, this conservative will likely vote, "none of the above."

    I don't need to vote for Trump, or the other Democrat.

  • Frozen Fractals Paducah, KY
    June 22, 2019 5:08 p.m.

    Turns out there are exceptions to Betteridge's law of headlines (which says any headline ending in a question mark can be answered with a no).

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    June 22, 2019 1:05 p.m.

    Show me a moral Republican\democrat running for president. Still waiting......

    It is just silly statement.

    Here is the truth. Utah has 1.6 million voters. 750,000 of those are Republicans. Over 600,000, the next largest voting block, are independents. Next is the Democrats at just under 200,000. Any Republican feeling comfortable that they can easily win because they are the majority are missing the point that there are more non-Republican voters in Utah than there are Republican voters.

    Business Insider reported "President Donald Trump said in a recent interview with TIME Magazine that he believes his core base of supporters is so solid, he doesn't think he needs to reach out to swing voters at all in 2020."

    In key swing states Trumps approval rating with independents is less than 35%. Trump is going to need more than his base should he maintain hope of reelection.

    NoNames.... you said "Last time, I voted against Hillary. This time, I'm voting for Trump." But we don't even know who he is running against yet.... how can you have definitively decided? We know whose likely... but don't know anything for sure yet.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    June 22, 2019 11:51 a.m.

    It’s not so much a matter of “who” I vote for as much as “what” I am voting for or against. The current list of Democratic candidates just want to buy votes by offering free everything, including abortion on demand. They have targeted the 1st and 2nd amendments and Electoral Collage. They want open borders and give illegal aliens voting rights. My vote for a buffoon like Trump will be a vote against all the lunacy the Democrats are offering right now and a vote against ultra-liberal judicial appointments.

  • Flipphone , 00
    June 22, 2019 8:31 a.m.

    I sure will vote for President Trump.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    June 22, 2019 7:57 a.m.

    Like religion, the hypocrisy of conservatives who in no way represent what conservatives claim to hold as ideals, is driving away the younger crowd who can see it for what it is.

    It isn't an ideal, it's a person or personality that controls what the believe, what ever the person they lionize as their current leader sets their standards.

    For example Reagan would be cast out of the conservative movement of today.

    They use the end justifies the means as an ideal...it isn't.

  • n8ive american Shelley, Idaho
    June 22, 2019 7:43 a.m.

    Show me a moral Democrat running for president.

    Still waiting........

  • 3grandslams Eagle Mountain, UT
    June 22, 2019 7:29 a.m.

    Funny article. A definite throwback to 2016. But Trump has proven himself and isn’t more crass, sexually immoral, mean spirited etc. than what he has been dragged through and falsely accused of.

    Frankly, the election of Trump has only revealed the sordid depths of the opposing political party.

    Americans will be voting for a free republic, no handouts, no reparations, no free college, no free homes or phones, no free money, no unrestrained abortion, regulated borders, jobs in America, lower taxes, smaller government, lots of transparency. In other words, Trump.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    June 22, 2019 6:43 a.m.

    David

    And your vote for Trump may be a vote for an American Caesar. Did you not hear the chants from his adoring followers that want him as President forever?

    Despite your exaggerated complaints about Democrats (anti-Semitic, really? most Jews favor Democrats. come on. think it through), I have never heard a word from Democrats demanding their candidate stay in office till death.

    The creeping deification of Trump is a problem much worse than environmental protections, universal medical care or taxation. It goes to the core of our Constitution and the establishment of a democratic Republic.

  • David Centerville, UT
    June 22, 2019 5:55 a.m.

    Tesuji,

    I understand that Trump’s tax cuts and economic strategy have resulted in increased revenue to the Treasury. Rising waters lift all boats. The deficits are not because of tax cuts, but because of reckless spending. Both parties are out of control on spending.

    Term limits would help reduce spending. Until then our system & politics encourages ever increasing spending by all politicians from both major parties as it keeps the economic engines working, but at the expense of an inevitable future financial reckoning.

    My decision to vote for Trump is a direct result of the craziness that is the Democratic candidates— their socialized platforms and foolish mindset. Their ideas of government are so far removed from our form of government that they are frightening.

  • sman columbia, MS
    June 22, 2019 4:56 a.m.

    I'm a conservative and I will vote for Trump. I'm amazed by all the liberals the thought it was ok for Oboma to tell his opponents they would have to get on back of the bus. These same people want to ride shotgun,Up front and be part of major decision making. They need to practice what they preach and Washington will become more civilized place.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    June 22, 2019 12:35 a.m.

    This article pretty much sums up my position perfectly.
    I don’t like Trump at all. I don’t like his character, spending, his penchant for executive orders, nor his position on trade. As some have pointed out, he really isn’t all that conservative. However, many of his other policies are sound and have helped the country. But even with the flaws he has in policy, what the Democrats offer is far, far worse. I really don’t know how I will vote but I do know there is no way I can vote for any of the lunatic fringe the democrats are offering as candidates. I just wish someone reasonable (like Nikki Haley) would run against Trump in the Republican primary. I think such a person would fare far better than most would think.

  • Tumbleweed Centerville, UT
    June 22, 2019 12:22 a.m.

    With the appointment of two Supreme Court justices who honor the text of the US Constitution and 150 additional federal court appointments with the same viewpoint, President Trump may have done more to save our Constitution that any president in the past 100 years. This next election is all about the Supreme Court and federal judiciary and voting for President Trump in order to save the text of our Constitution. All the rest of the wonderful things he has accomplished, as pointed out by previous commenters, is simply the icing on the cake. KAG 2020!

  • David Centerville, UT
    June 21, 2019 10:31 p.m.

    Because I am a conservative, I did not vote for Trump in the last election. But because Democrats have revealed themselves to be w so extreme, and so crazy with their political goals, I feel I have no choice but to vote for Trump this time, just to avoid the craziness that would be a Democrat in the White House.

    Free college, student loan forgiveness, Medicaid for all, green new deal, raising taxes, reparations, war against religion, anti-Semitism, packing the Supreme Court, elimination of ICE, open borders; turning a blind eye to Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas; restricting conservative speech on social media platforms, further restricting the 2nd amendment, and expanding abortion—I feel Democrat’s will destroy this country.

    I’ll vote for Trump to simply keep a Democrat out of the White House.

  • silo Sandy, UT
    June 21, 2019 10:07 p.m.

    @bifftacular
    "I don't accept all of your counterpoints ..."

    Every single one of my "counterpoints" were facts, yet you admit you don't accept them. Interesting.

    "He's still WAY more conservative than anyone vying for the Democratic nomination"

    I didn't say a thing about Democratic candidates, so why are you deflecting to that?

    Trump is not ethically conservative, morally conservative, religiously conservative, nor fiscally conservative, and there's not a single one of those 'accomplishments' you listed that the 16 Republicans running against him would not have accomplished as well. Especially with a Republican house and senate in support.

    What those running against Trump would not have done is stain the office, monetize the presidency, and destroy our standing in the world.

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    June 21, 2019 7:48 p.m.

    We are not any more free under trump compared to Obama.

    My liberal friends who are in to guns would laugh how they could sell guns and ammunition at a huge markup because of the hysteria over Obama was going to take your guns.

    Also if this is the best economy any republican has ever seen then explain why deficits are approaching a trillion dollars? And where is your outrage at trump over this?

  • Light and Liberty St George, UT
    June 21, 2019 5:31 p.m.

    As this writer lines out what Trump stands for, I would vote for him and ten more just like him. He is spot on! Thank you. Compared to his personal flaws, not even on the radar! Compared to Socialism and the absolutely crazy ideas supported by Democrats, this should be a no brainer by any reasonable American. Go Trump!

  • Stephen Van Orden , 00
    June 21, 2019 5:19 p.m.

    As my word sleuthing continues, I just discovered that conservative is also not a synonym for correct or better.

    Seems like we tend to use the word conservative here in Utah with the built-in assumption that it means correct, righteous, better--or even ethical.

    I call it the transitive property of Utah politics: A=B=C or Republican=LDS=Right

    We need real, civil political discourse to solve problems. Trump's behaviors are pushing us more toward tribal politics and less toward compromise and synthesis.

    We need to discuss ideas and policies and not immediately reject any idea or policy because it comes from the "other side." Is there anything that is only two sided? Most things in politics are multi-faceted and complex, not just two sided with one being right and one being wrong.

  • Stephen Van Orden , 00
    June 21, 2019 4:59 p.m.

    Just to be sure, I just checked the thesaurus. Conservative is not a synonym for righteous.

  • Utahnareapeculiarpeople Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2019 3:45 p.m.

    "People of a more conservative persuasion but who are concerned with personal morality and decorum are often repelled by Trump’s personal failings and boorish behavior. But in a binary face-off between him and a liberal Democrat they will likely pull the lever for Trump."

    So republicans are going to keep supporting the "president" no matter what. That's not exactly earth-shattering analysis.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    June 21, 2019 3:29 p.m.

    bountifulUte
    BO’s job creation was every bit as good as trump’s?
    Not so mon ami, and wages have improved much more under trump than BO

    6/20/19
    the number of job openings now exceeds the number of unemployed people by 1.6mm, according to the Labor Department. This is the widest margin in history.

    05/03/19
    NYT
    Over the past year, low-wage workers have experienced the fastest pay increases, a shift from earlier in the recovery, when wage growth was concentrated at the top.

    04/18/19
    WSJ
    The number of Americans filing applications for new unemployment benefits fell last week to a fresh 50-year low.

    03/13/19
    CNBC
    Average hourly earnings rose 3.4% in February from the same period a year ago, according to a BLS report last week. That’s the biggest gain since April ‘09 and seventh month in a row that compensation has been 3% or better.

    01/04/19
    WSJ
    Manufacturing employment fell by 210k during BO’s 2 terms. It has risen by 473k in Trump’s first 2 years.

    the increase in the deficit? came after the dems took control of the house. trump wanted to increase infrastructure by $200B, nancy wants 10X that. who wants to spend more?

  • BountifulUte Bountiful, UT
    June 21, 2019 2:23 p.m.

    Greg Bell is a really good guy. Sensible. Smart. All of that makes it so difficult to understand how he can seemingly be taken in by Trump.

    Before the next election, we will see the economy falter. Trump will be the second straight President incapable of producing a full year GDP of 3 %. Obama had several quarters of GDP greater than Trump.

    Stock market was on a VERY serious positive glide path for the Obama years. Yes, this path has continued with Trump, but the pathway was set by Obama.

    Obama era jobs creation numbers were every bit as good as what Trump brags about.

    Trump, by pulling out of the Iran deal, supported by much of Europe, has created the current situation in Iran.

    Trump is a threat to the Constitution, without question.

    For those who love the idea of his "de-regulations", please read through all of them and see how many endanger our environment and even the water some of us drink.

    On September 30, 2019, Trump will present taxpayers with a $1 trillion deficit, for FY2019. Obama had a couple of those years, but only after inheriting the Great Recession handed to him by Bush. A $ trillion annual deficit in the midst of this "best ever" economy?

  • Mc West Jordan, UT
    June 21, 2019 2:21 p.m.

    @Brave Sir Robin

    I did not vote for Trump in 2016. I voted for Evan McMullin because I did not like Trump as a person. I still don't, but I will vote for him in 2020 for all the reasons this article points out and all the reasons that I can't vote for any of the democrats. I think you will see a lot of people like me and Trump will win again.

  • Clinton King (Ephraim) Ephraim, UT
    June 21, 2019 2:12 p.m.

    I surely won't be voting for Donald Trump. I also haven't yet heard of a Democratic candidate I could vote for, either. If those are my only two choices, I see no purpose in voting.

  • Obama10 SYRACUSE, UT
    June 21, 2019 2:00 p.m.

    I love it when i hear the President Trump is a threat or trashing the Constitution, can someone please give me specifics of what he has done to "trash the Constitution?" You mean standing up for the 2nd amendment or religious liberty in the 1st amendment (LDS constituents be mindful). Specifics please.

  • deseret pete Springville, UT
    June 21, 2019 1:58 p.m.

    Well I don't know any conservative that won't vote for Trump -- except a few who don't care about policy but are ceremoniously fixated on his bedside manner. -- out of all the Democrats running there is not one whose character is any better than Trumps. ---- Just the Abortion issue alone is proof.

  • tesuji Bountiful, UT
    June 21, 2019 1:46 p.m.

    The things you listed at the beginning of your article should be enough to want Trump gone. A president who is continually lying to us and is making rash, uninformed decisions - those alone should cause alarm.

    For me, the list of bad things Trump is doing weighs a lot heavier on the scale than the positives you list.

    And I disagree that some of the positives you list are real. Like the economy. A president can't actually affect the economy much. It's true the tax cuts are giving a temporary boost, but they are temporary. And they come at a cost of revenue that could be used for other things - like to pay off the national debt, or to improve education and scientific research, both of which pay large dividends in the future.

    Other damaging things Trump is doing: alienating us from the rest of the world, including our allies; promoting dictators, including Putin who is actively undermining our elections; costing a lot of money and prosperity with his trade war; ruining the environment; setting a bad example for our children - he's a crass, racist, intolerant, misogynistic bully.

  • Obama10 SYRACUSE, UT
    June 21, 2019 1:37 p.m.

    As a Conservative, I can't wait to vote for him again!! He is actually doing "conservative" items more than "Conservative" George W Bush and George H. W. Bush, both of whom I voted for. Conservatives talk about the economy, low taxes, law and order, smaller government, tough on borders, and religious liberty. Please tell me one of these areas that President Trump has worked on and been better than past GOP nominees? I wish the GOP would stop cutting off their nose to spite their face and get behind the most conservative president we have had since Regan. Do you really think you will see articles asking, "Will Liberals vote for Biden in 2020?" Doubt it.

  • Clark W. Griswold Centerville, UT
    June 21, 2019 1:30 p.m.

    I will proudly be supporting President Trump in 2020.

    MAGA!!!

  • Old Coastie New Zealand, 00
    June 21, 2019 1:20 p.m.

    The conservatives I knew in Utah would never vote for him, but apparently do now. I wonder what changed. I see Trump as a threat to the Constitution. He wants to just rip it apart, while Democrat leaders want debate in the house and Senate Chambers. Lawful Change to the Constitution isn't a bad thing, folks. It is supposed to happen. It was written that way. If the majority of Americans are against the proposed changes then it remains unchanged. Unless there is a leader like Trump who feels the Constitution just gets in his way...

  • Bifftacular Spanish Fork, Ut
    June 21, 2019 1:12 p.m.

    @Silo

    I don't accept all of your counterpoints but for the sake of this discussion, let's say I do. He's still WAY more conservative than anyone vying for the Democratic nomination. Did I say WAY? I meant to say WAAAAAAAY.

    Conservative judge nominations
    Pro-life
    Trying to do something with immigration issues
    Does not support the ridiculous reparations nonsense
    Economy better than it has been for years and years
    Better tax code than before (not saying much but better)
    Pro 2nd amendment
    Pro Israel

    By the way, some of the "grievances" you listed also occurred under Obama's reign. Sorry, you didn't convince me... not even a little.

  • silo Sandy, UT
    June 21, 2019 12:59 p.m.

    @bifftacular
    "I'll take bombastic, arrogant, often embarrassing, adulterer, hard to listen to Trump, but also pleasantly unconventional, non-PC, non politician, and non pandering Trump any day given our choices."

    Conservative? Really?

    How 'conservative' was it to raise spending while cutting taxes and spiking the deficit?

    How 'conservative' is it to complain about Obama's vacation and golfing expenses, then exceed those vacation and golfing expenses?

    How 'conservative' is it to claim Trump values the 'rule of law', then excuse emoluments violations, conflict of interest violations, nepotism violations, hatch act violations, and numerous staff terminations resulting from misuse of taxpayer funds?

    How 'conservative' is it to embrace the increased lack of transparency from this administration?

    How 'conservative' is it for Trump to state that we should 'take guns first, apply due process' later? Or to threaten the freedom of the press, or the right to due process?

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    June 21, 2019 12:57 p.m.

    @mc

    "Sorry, but there is not one of the 23 that I could vote for."

    The good news is, it doesn't matter. You voted for Trump last time and you're going to vote for Trump this time. The Democrats could put up Ronald Reagan and you still wouldn't vote Democrat.

    What matters is those who voted for Trump last time who have seen the error of their ways and are now willing to vote Democrat. And there are many millions of them.

  • silo Sandy, UT
    June 21, 2019 12:50 p.m.

    @nonamesaccepted
    "The guys who want to eliminate the electroral(sic) college, who hate the 2nd amd, who want to eliminate all 1st amd protections for anything they deem "hate speech" or any special status for religious conscience and conduct think Trump is a threat to the constituion?"

    The discussions on removing the electoral college are every bit as legitimate as the discussions on removing birthright citizenship. Both would require a constitutional convention and barely more than talking points.

    Regarding your false claims about 'hating the 2nd amendment', it was Trump who stated publicly that we should 'take the guns first...apply due process after'. Please cite a quote from a recent Democratic president that was as blatant assault on the 2nd (and 5th) amendment. We'll wait.

    Regarding your false claims about 'eliminating 1st amd protections on anything deemed hate speech', there's not a single occasion of what you claim. Social media companies banning users has NOTHING to do with the 1st amendment, and unless you can show an actual occasion of government suppression of speech, your claim is false and speculative at best.

  • Mc West Jordan, UT
    June 21, 2019 12:20 p.m.

    "Trumps chances obviously depend on which of the 23 Democratic contenders wins."

    Sorry, but there is not one of the 23 that I could vote for. Every one of them supports abortion on demand, policies that undermine capitalism, redistribution of wealth, reparations, unlimited illegal immigration, big government, religious repression and they deny biological science. I could go on and on.

    I don't think Trump's chances depend on who the democrats nominate. It makes no difference to me.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    June 21, 2019 12:07 p.m.

    If he’s the GOP standard bearer, which it looks like he’ll be, sure they will. Otherwise we’d get a dem who would further restrict religious liberties, present more giveaways to hostile mullahs, open our borders, and appoint “I don’t care what the constitution says, we should do it this way” liberals to the federal judiciary. Trump is a godsend compared to what the dems would give us.

    That’s what really irks liberals – despite his plethora of faults, many still prefer him to what they offer.

    Dark knight
    moral human being who believes in the U.S. constitution and the rule of law.

    That rules out the dems

    Kent
    The recovery started under BO? Not because of anything he did, but multiple rate cuts and QE by the fed. BO slowed the recovery. No relative wage growth under BO, but we have it now. BO had as much to do with current economic growth as Pershing had to do with WWII.

    WallE
    No, not a 3rd term. bill and BO both toyed with the idea. do you think it was good for them?

  • WallE Walla Walla, WA
    June 21, 2019 11:35 a.m.

    The real question: Would Trumps base support him for a third term as he's suggested he'd like to do? Russia and China had term limits before Putin and Xi Jinping came to power and Trump has said that he'd like to get past term limits too. Was he joking?

    Trumps base loves him regardless of what he does. Old time conservatives don't like him with the chaos hes caused across the globe, particularly with tariffs impeding trade.

    Trumps chances obviously depend on which of the 23 Democratic contenders wins. There is some severe weeding out that needs to take place among the contenders.

  • Bifftacular Spanish Fork, Ut
    June 21, 2019 11:32 a.m.

    This article is spot on. Republicans (everyone) have two choices.. a bad one or really really bad one. So, we hold our nose and vote for Trump. It's simple. I'd prefer 1,000,000 people to Trump but he beats the stuffing out of any of the horrible 20ish candidates the Democrats are putting up.

    I'm a conservative. Why would I vote for candidates lurching further and further left on issues such as pro-abortion, reparations, higher taxes, "free" this and "free" that, restriction-free immigration, disastrous Obamacare, etc etc? The list goes on and on.

    I'll take bombastic, arrogant, often embarrassing, adulterer, hard to listen to Trump, but also pleasantly unconventional, non-PC, non politician, and non pandering Trump any day given our choices.

  • Mc West Jordan, UT
    June 21, 2019 11:30 a.m.

    Trump remind me of the Jaredite king Morianton in The Book of Mormon (Ether 10):

    10 And after that he had established himself king he did ease the burden of the people, by which he did gain favor in the eyes of the people, and they did anoint him to be their king.

    11 And he did do justice unto the people, but not unto himself because of his many whoredoms; wherefore he was cut off from the presence of the Lord.

    12 And it came to pass that Morianton built up many cities, and the people became exceedingly rich under his reign, both in buildings, and in gold and silver, and in raising grain, and in flocks, and herds, and such things which had been restored unto them.

    This is why Trump will be elected again along with all the reasons listed in the article. He is not a person to be emulated, but he is doing things that benefit people, the economy and society.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2019 11:21 a.m.

    unrepentant progressive
    "True Conservatives, those that profess devotion to our Constitution, would recognize that Trump is a demagogue and would be tyrant. "

    Fair enough - since conservatism tends to be populated by those who espouse traditional liberal, as opposed to leftist, concepts (such as freedom of speech, religion, life, etc.), but what happens when all the alternatives are far worse? Bernie? Really?

    i do not think Trump is any more of a tyrant that Obama was (who arguably actually engaged in far more egregious behavior than Trump has - such as Obama spying and prosecuting journalists, as opposed to Trump merely complaining about fake news - which turns out is usually actually fake)- he just doesn't parrot you or the alt-constitutional left; which i do not view as a character flaw

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    June 21, 2019 11:19 a.m.

    We would never vote for such a corrupt person. He’s the first Conservative we have not voted for in over 30 years.

    Trump has done nothing positive in his time as POTUS, continues to use his office for his family business, has decreased America’s standing and made our economy worse than it could have been, to name a few things. In short, he’s a disaster.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    June 21, 2019 11:10 a.m.

    @unrepentant progressive: "True Conservatives, those that profess devotion to our Constitution,"

    Leave it to progressives to trot out their feigned support for the constitution--or Bible--only when convenient.

    The guys who want to eliminate the electroral college, who hate the 2nd amd, who want to eliminate all 1st amd protections for anything they deem "hate speech" or any special status for religious conscience and conduct think Trump is a threat to the constituion?

    The same folks who have celebrated judicial activism placing international law on par or even higher than the written language of our native Supreme Law, who demand a "living document" view of the constitution, and who think "promote the general welfare" actually authorizes wealth transfer schemes think Donald Trump poses any constitutional threat?

    If such concerns are sincere, it is evidence that the typical progressive really does think that "constitutional" is just shorthand for "whatever I like is good and whatever I hate is bad."

    The constitution guarantees to every State a "republican" form of government, not democratic.

    I voted against Hillary last time. This time I vote for Trump.

  • Yankee12 Clearfield, UT
    June 21, 2019 11:05 a.m.

    He has my vote! MAGA! KAG!

  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    June 21, 2019 11:01 a.m.

    No. No. A thousand times No!

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    June 21, 2019 10:25 a.m.

    True Conservatives, those that profess devotion to our Constitution, would recognize that Trump is a demagogue and would be tyrant. Therefore, regardless of the inadequacies of his opponent, they would hold their nose and vote for someone who believes in the democratic values of this country. While there are policy differences, every Democrat in the running so far seems dedicated to the principles and values of our Republic.

  • Desert Dog Layton, UT
    June 21, 2019 10:20 a.m.

    Greg has listed just some of the great reasons I support and will continue to support our president in 2020. Go Trump - Keep America Great!!

  • Dog_ma Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 21, 2019 10:14 a.m.

    No conservative who cares about debt should touch him.

  • Culture Warrior Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2019 10:10 a.m.

    True conservatives won't.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2019 10:09 a.m.

    There is an old joke about two hunters being chased by a bear; one says "i hope we can outrun the bear", the other say "i hope i can outrun you".

    Trump need not be perfect (he is not) to win, merely better than the alternative (like he was last time). Given the hard lefts penchant for being anti-free-speech, anti-religion, anti-tolerance, anti-democratic/pro-witch-hunt, pro-infanticide, pro-socialist, racialist, passive/aggressive perma-victim; Trump has a head start.

    @Kent C. DeForrest: methinks thou dost project too much

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    June 21, 2019 9:54 a.m.

    @Red Smith

    Question: Do you honestly believe the things you write, or are you just trolling us?

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    June 21, 2019 9:46 a.m.

    Frankly, I grow tired of some of the attacks on Donald Trump as now being unfair and outdated.

    Yes, Trump is bombastic, unconventional, a braggard, and politically uncorrect. He is certainly given to puffery.

    But sexually immoral? In the past, certainly. How many affairs has he had since entering the White House? And how does that number compare to FDR, JFK, LBJ, or Bill Clinton? How does it compare to the Rev. Dr. MLK? Do we need to bring up MLK's or JFK's adulteries everytime we talk about their public accomplishments? Then why the double standard with Trump?

    I don't approve of adultery or even fornication, and sexual assault or harassment is beyond the pale. But I've never had the likes of Marilyn Monroe or any supermodel throwing herself at me because I was a billionare or the President of the US. So while I won't condone, maybe I ought to recognize I've never faced quite the same temptations some others have.

    I don't have to personally like a person to agree with his socio/political policies. It seems we need a dirty street fighter to advance good policies as the left has no honor, no scrupples.

    Last time, I voted against Hillary.

    This time, I'm voting for Trump.

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    June 21, 2019 9:42 a.m.

    Continued . . .

    If you vote for Trump (or Romney or Lee), you vote for continued gridlock and for a party that doesn't have any plan at all on a host of important issues.

    The GOP has proven that it doesn't care about health care (look at the miserable bills they tried to pass and failed, even though they had control of both houses of Congress).

    The GOP is still in denial about global warming, the more dire threat to human civilization and millions of other species.

    The GOP will not enact reasonable gun control laws, despite overwhelming support by even Republicans voters. They kowtow to the corrupt NRA.

    The GOP has no plan to reverse the massive wealth inequality that is undermining our society. Their solution? Tax cuts. But this exacerbates all our economic problems.

    The GOP has no plan for immigration reform. It is xenophobia and blatant racism since Trump took office, and most of his followers are just fine with that. The GOP has become comfortable with white supremacy.

    The GOP has no concern about the environment. Trump and his appointees have reversed pollution regulations and opened public lands to destructive resource extraction.

    And this is the tip of the iceberg.

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    June 21, 2019 9:35 a.m.

    Oh, where to start? Maybe with the liberals' "lurch" to the left on abortion. What is more accurate is the Republicans' lurch to the right. They are very far right of the LDS Church on abortion, so Utah voters ought to consider that.

    Or how about conservative judges? They brought us Citizens United and will likely legalize discrimination against the LGBT community and others.

    The tax cuts? Why would anyone but the super-wealthy approve of those? I'm middle class, and my taxes went up. Trumps? Yuge tax cut for him. And what about the trillion-dollar deficits these tax cuts for the wealthy are bringing during economic expansion. If Obama had done the same, the Repubs would be screaming? But where are the deficit hawks now? Of course, we all knew this was just partisan rhetoric. The Republicans only hate deficits when a Democrat is in office.

    The economy? Trump is taking credit for an expansion that began under Obama and is only now losing steam. His tariffs and tax cuts will likely turn things south soon. Will he take credit for that too? But our economy is not so great for most Americans. The working class has seen wage stagnation for 40 years now.

  • The Dark Knight Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2019 9:31 a.m.

    Voting against Trump is not a question of conservative or liberal, Republican or Democrat. It's a question of whether or not you are a moral human being who believes in the U.S. constitution and the rule of law. If you want to honestly say you are, voting against him is an absolute necessity.

  • Red Smith , 00
    June 21, 2019 9:26 a.m.

    President Trump has done more for conservatives than any other president. 6 million people have left food stamps for paychecks, the US embassy has moved to Jerusalem, funding of Planned Parenthood has dried up, two conservative judges on Supreme Court, retirement accounts bulging with cash, trade deficit down, lowest unemployment for Blacks, Latino, and Whites, regulations cut, jobs, jobs, jobs.

    May God continue to bless and protect President Trump. A modern day Saul of Tarsus.