Census: Mixed heritage Utahns — most of them youngsters — fuel diversity in Utah

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  • Boomstickdad Provo, TX
    June 21, 2019 8:36 a.m.

    @ cityboy
    OK, so show me the article about some aspect of diversity that isn't racial, whether you are interested in it or not.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    June 20, 2019 1:48 p.m.

    @Lilly Munster: "what our Constitution dictates: "to count all persons living in the United States." "

    That is not what the constitution says. The 14th amd reads, "Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed."

    In legal and constitutional writing, words have specific meanings. Different means different things; we are not writing poetry looking for pleasing sounds, but laws that must be clearly understood. The same word, used in the same context, must have exactly the same meaning.

    In the constitution, the words persons and people appear numerous times. The US Supreme Court has ruled that the "We the people of the United States do establish..." means the body politic, not every living human being. The people guaranteed the right to bear arms, also means body politic rather than including illegal aliens.

    "whole number of persons" may include everyone, or may include only the body politic: those with strong enough legal connections to the community to have rightful voice and interest in its government. The supreme court has never ruled on this.

  • Lilly Munster , 00
    June 20, 2019 12:53 p.m.

    The thoughtful comments given here are the very reasons, and the reinforced logic of NEVER asking a human being living in the Unites States their citizenship status on our next census. Of course, the initiative to add that detail on the Census (they say so plainly) is for political partisan reasons, but that does not accomplish what our Constitution dictates: "to count all persons living in the United States." The effort to politicize the Census is a racial effrontery, and counter-productive to diversity and the fair distribution of tax money.

  • bamafone Salem, UT
    June 20, 2019 12:05 p.m.

    The Utah Hawaii,
    So diversity except for Mormons right. Am I getting that right.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    June 20, 2019 12:04 p.m.

    Honestly, in my whole my life, the color of a person's skin has never mattered to me. Whether living in homogenous rural Utah, or in highly diverse big cities, skin color just never mattered.

    Personal character and behavior--no doubt influenced by family and culture--matter very much. But skin color? Why would that matter to any rational, intelligent person?

    To suggest that more of xxx is good is tantamount to suggesting that more of yyy is bad. And that sound highly racist to me. Imagine celebrating the increase of single race children born to parents of Norweigan or Scandinavian descent. Why is celebrating different racial makeups any different?

    Going further, science now tells us that race doesn't really exist in humans, it is just a social construct.

    So why is it that those who appeal to science when attacking religion, or demanding we bow down at the alter of global warming, ignore science and continue to focus so much on race?

    Let's celebrate successful cultural traits. Let's enjoy new food and good music. Let us appreciate the rich cornicopia of peaceful, enriching, uplifting religious beliefs, worship, and service to others.

    But let us stop caring about skin color.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    June 20, 2019 11:56 a.m.

    @Utah-Hawaii: "Sadly, I left Utah decades ago because of what most everyone knows about the tyranny there."

    Tyranny is in the eye of the beholder. I've lived in the big, liberal, coastal cities. Their oppressive taxes, rent control, disregard for my individual RKBA, and zoning/preservation laws that prevented me from painting my front door without government approval were all very oppressive. Parents not having the right to preview material being taught to their children in government schools, nor opt out of morally offensive content was also oppressive. Crime rates were oppressive. Racial tensions were oppressive.

    But it seems there are people who like those areas so I'm happy for them. I leave them to order their societies as they see fit, objecting only to the infringment of constitutionally enumerted rights like RKBA or parental/family rights.

    In contrast, we seem to have no shortage of people who dislike Utah but can't bring themselves to leave, or if they do leave, must remain ever involved in criticizing Utah and Utahns. It is weird. I really don't understand it.

    Alcohol, gambling, smoking, etc are not consitutional rights. Live where you like the culture.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    June 20, 2019 11:51 a.m.

    @Brave Sir Robin: "That's because to a large number of people here in Utah, it is so foreign. There's a segment of our society that fears anyone who doesn't look, dress, act, or worship just like them"

    I disagree. We have huge numbers of Utahns who have lived in different cultures, served the people, and come to love them as LDS Missionaries, in addition to those who have served in the Peace Corps, served as volunteers from other churches, or even served in the military. With good reason does the Wasatch Front enjoy so many wonderful ethnic restaurants: local demand from those who served in those locations.

    I've never met any Utahn who fears those who look, dress, act, or worship differently.

    I have met a lot of Californians who really dislike Utahns simply because we choose to live differently--health code, sexual morality, attending church, etc--than do some others. Many have preconceived, bigoted notions. But the fact is, hate just isn't in the Utah DNA, even when we disagree with others.

    Those who brag about living in more racially diverse cities fail to notice how segregated many neighborhoods are, or admit the racial tensions. Very few race problems in Utah.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    June 20, 2019 11:05 a.m.

    @ Flipphone,

    We all know that "faith" is your only hope and refuge. I'm glad I'm not THAT afraid. But, folks are born homosexuals too! I wish you the very best dear soul!

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    June 20, 2019 10:58 a.m.

    Maybe Utah will be considered somewhat "normal" someday soon? I welcome their continuing diversity. Sadly, I left Utah decades ago because of what most everyone knows about the tyranny there. I lived it unfortunately......just awful......it was.

  • Flipphone , 00
    June 20, 2019 9:38 a.m.

    The diversity especially when it comes to faith is welcomed.

  • quackquack Park City, UT
    June 20, 2019 8:50 a.m.

    Love it they say by 2050 the majority of people in Utah will be mixed race outnumbering Caucasians. Times have changed whether you like it or not everything from politicians to judges will be mixed raced changing the dynamics of things.

    The reality is the US does not produce enough highly skilled, highly educated people to meet the demand so corporations & institutions import people from S. Korea, Japan, India ect ect. You people say "There taking our Jobs" but if you not qualified how was it "your jobs" in the first place.

  • cityboy Farmington, UT
    June 20, 2019 8:42 a.m.

    @ Broomstickdad,

    “Who decreed that diversity is determined solely by race? Diversity lies in the fact that every human on the planet is different.”

    No one so decreed. But this article is about “racial” diversity. That element is more interesting to me than one on the increase of blond-headed left-handers in the state.

  • Chessermesser West Valley City, UT
    June 20, 2019 8:29 a.m.

    Juneteenth. June 19, 1865q - the day Federal troops announced in Galveston, Texas that all slaves were free via the Emancipation Proclamation. I didn’t know it is celebrated in Utah.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    June 20, 2019 7:40 a.m.

    @fan of the sith

    "It's interesting how we get so caught on this like it is something, still so foreign."

    That's because to a large number of people here in Utah, it is so foreign. There's a segment of our society that fears anyone who doesn't look, dress, act, or worship just like them, and anything we can do let the light in on these fear-filled individuals is positive.

  • Boomstickdad Provo, TX
    June 20, 2019 7:21 a.m.

    Who decreed that diversity is determined solely by race? Diversity lies in the fact that every human on the planet is different.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    June 20, 2019 3:26 a.m.

    Beautiful article about people learning to love the differences in each other, which can never be anything but good and is so needed today. Because it's coming whether one likes it or not.

    @Truth--You seem to think there should be more articles talking about how diversity and cultural diversity is NOT always such a good thing. To me that reads as one thing. MAGA!!! (Right?)

  • FanOfTheSith Vernal, UT
    June 20, 2019 1:47 a.m.

    And the story is about the human race just going about normal daily routines and living. It's interesting how we get so caught on this like it is something, still so foreign. I don't look at my buddy Sterling as a Japanese American. He will always be Sterling to me forever.

  • Truth2017 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2019 10:22 p.m.

    Its interesting to see all the articles promoting diversity. There are definitely different points of view about it and whether it is a good thing or not. However, we only offered one point of view in the media. I think its fine to talk about the positive things about diversity but its disingenuous not to address the difficulties and changes to society and culture by these demographic trends.