Witness: Navy SEAL called dead prisoner an 'ISIS dirtbag'

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  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    June 20, 2019 12:19 p.m.

    Gerry marshall
    OK, commutation. He’s still out of jail despite selling out the country.

    Now that we’ve cleared up semantics, please answer the question.

    How is his being freed any better than trump contemplating letting this guy out? How is BO buying deserter Bergdahl’s freedom by releasing 5 terrorists better than trump contemplating letting this guy out?

    BTW, Bowe and Bradley were both found guilty – this guy has not yet been. Could he be? Yes. But he has not yet been.

    John Wayne did not undergo surgical mutilation and/or hormone therapy just he wouldn’t be called “Marion”.

    A lot of Hollywood types select more “rugged” or “marketable” names. I’ve no problem with that. Bet you had fun looking up all those names!

    Changing your name due to gender dysphoria – that’s something else. I don’t believe surgeries and hormone treatments really change anything, other than the relative sizes of the Dr.’s and the dysphoric’s bank accounts.

  • GingerMarshall Brooklyn, OH
    June 20, 2019 10:31 a.m.

    @Lost: “And the pardon Bradley Manning was less egregious, how?”

    Chelsea Manning’s sentence was commuted, she was not pardoned. A pardon removes all consequences of a conviction while a commutation simply ends the sentence early.

    Facts matter.

    And by the way, Manning’s legal name is “Chelsea.” Insisting on calling her “Bradley” because so called “honesty” requires consistency.

    Do you refer to actor John Wayne as “Marion,” his legal birth name?

    President Ford as “Leslie King”?

    President Ulysses S. Grant as Hiram Grant?

    Native American warrior Geronimo as Goyahlka.

    Music great Bob Dylan as Robert Zimmerman?

    Stevie Wonder as Steveland Judkins?

    Carey Grant, of course, as Archie Leach?

    Dame Helen Mirren as Ilyena Lydia Vasilievna Mironov?

    Kirk Douglas as Issur Danielovitch Demsky?

    Michael Caine, as Maurice Micklewhite?

    I am sure you insistance on names carries over to every person who ever had a legal name change.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    June 20, 2019 9:27 a.m.

    ISIS dirtbag
    Talk about a redundant term

    LOU
    With the office of the president comes the responsibility of being Commander in Chief of all military forces.

    So sorry you did not know that.

    Old man
    And the pardon Bradley Manning was less egregious, how? And trading five terrorists for the deserter Bowe Bergdahl was justified, how? Oh, that’s right, BO did them. BO, who himself never served a second in the military.

  • Zabilde Riverdale, UT
    June 20, 2019 8:10 a.m.

    Lou,

    Like him or not, President Trump is the Commander in Chief, just as draft dodging Bill Clinton and never served either Obama were during their terms as President.

    Bergdahl was a traitor who abandoned his post in hostile territory putting his entire base at risk.

    This case needs to be decided in the courts first. Then if his family or friends can make a solid case it is entirely up to the President whether or not to Pardon him. If found guilty I would prefer he not be pardoned. But then I preferred that the traitor Manning not have it's sentence commuted by never served Obama. Obama decided to commute the remainder of that 30 year sentence and it's a done deal. It was within Obama's authority as the Commander in Chief. So will it be with this case.

  • one old man MSC, UT
    June 20, 2019 7:39 a.m.

    Things like this can happen in wartime.

    My Lai comes to mind.

    This man is being tried by a jury of his peers. We need to respect that prospect.

    if trump pardons him, it will be another gross injustice by a man who was himself a coward hiding being "bone spurs."

    Let military justice proceed.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    June 19, 2019 5:51 p.m.

    LIke it or not, President Trump is the commander-in-chief. Just as Obama, W Bush, and Clinton held that position. Any suggestion he should not be involved in a military issue because of his pre-election history is no different than those conspriracy nuts who claimed Obama wasn't legit because he was "Kenyan", or that Clinton dishonored the military and so wasn't legit. Elections have conseqeunces and for better or worse, Trump is the commander in chief.

    That said, it is not appropriate to discuss pardons before a trial is even held. Trump is often not appropriate.

    With that, let this trial stand as evidence that the US holds its military personal to the legal standards of lawful warfare. Whether convicted or acquitted, this SEAL is being required to answer for questionable conduct. Ideally, these warriors also hold themselves to the highest professional standards.

    I would not convict anyone of a crime for being insensitive, unprofessional, or even politically incorrect. Some latitude must be given in these areas for the rigors of war. There is a line into criminality that must not be crossed.

    I hope a fair trial is conduct and that all will accept the results.

  • FanOfTheSith Vernal, UT
    June 19, 2019 8:35 a.m.

    @LOU Montana - Pueblo, CO
    June 19, 2019 7:30 a.m.

    This is a military issue.

    Trump and the public have no business getting involved.

    Draft dodger Trump stupidly attacks John McCain and Sergeant Bergdahl for being captured.

    Trump has no business commenting or being involved when he refused to serve or salute our fallen.

    Good luck with that. Remember that he claims that all the "tough people" are on his side.

    Having said that, I really hope that Gallager didn't do it and I know that there will always be a psychologically breaking point for a human being but again, he was trained to be able to cope and deal with such a breaking point.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    June 19, 2019 7:30 a.m.

    This is a military issue.

    Trump and the public have no business getting involved.

    Draft dodger Trump stupidly attack John McCain and Sergeant Bergdahl for being captured.

    Trump has no business commenting or being involved when he refused to serve or salute our fallen.