Trump could have tough time meeting his deportation threat

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  • WallE Walla Walla, WA
    June 20, 2019 10:59 a.m.

    Reports suggest that the Border Patrol is undermanned due poor salary and working conditions. I suspect ICE is also undermanned. ICE isn't sitting around playing cards waiting on orders, I believe they are busy as the article states.

    So how does the President accomplish his published goals without a full staff? He doesn't.

    But he doesn't seem to care so long as his base is happy with his bluster, smoke and mirrors.

    The President is a showman, not a man who executes well developed plans.

  • jeclar2006 Oceanside, CA
    June 19, 2019 12:39 p.m.

    ConservativeCommonTater - Salt Lake City, UT
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    In my opinion, Trump is the worst president in our history.

    That said, we should be deporting the illegal Hispanics that are flooding across our borders. They believe they have a "RIGHT" to come here ahead of others that apply to come here legally.
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    There is no 'flood', in fact the number of border crossers was on the decline until Trump arrived.

    Trump and Co's policies have created an even worse condition, such as the recent statement that aid to Central America was being cut. What that will do is to increase emigration from those countries.

    There is no thought or philosophical debating such lofty concepts as 'rights' among those fleeing for their lives. Any more than a person leaving a sinking ship engages in in some sort of existential debate on the meaning of life, and whether it is worth pursuing.

    The US can admit far more immigrants by changes in the laws an criteria, such that 99% of those escaping abysmal conditions in their home countries, could be accommodated legally. This has been done in the past.

    Those who support Trump have swallowed poison from the propaganda machine that brought him to power.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    June 19, 2019 12:12 p.m.

    @ Craig Clark

    "The hope is that the mere threat to do so will keep the base stirred up."

    Yes. Immigration to Trump's base is what reparations is to (some of) the Dem base: ripe for pandering.

  • zipadeedoodah Lehi, UT
    June 19, 2019 11:10 a.m.

    Ho, hum. Another article to attach President Trump who is doing more for the wellbeing of our citizens that the past 4 presidents combined.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    June 19, 2019 10:03 a.m.

    Oops! I meant El Paso, not San Antonio.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    June 19, 2019 9:34 a.m.

    @LOU
    In some ways, worf has it better than most of us. McAllen is a border town. The objective of illegals is to get 100 miles away from the border. That makes deportation harder, because BP has a different set of laws in the border zone.

    That's why the debate about the safety of San Antonio was such a joke. The real standard of measure is how many are getting through. You can measure that by arrests and attempts at the border.

    Still, worf knows the reality of those passing through, and those who showed up at the McAllen hospital in labor.

    Trump can't undo 30 years of abuse. The number of illegals is 22 million +. You start with those who have already been heard in court and have deportation orders.

    But Trump knows that those orders are called, "Run Letters," because no one obeys them. There is a general climate of lawlessness, as predicted by the 1981 immigration commission (SCIRP): "The existence of a fugitive underground class is unhealthy for society as a whole and may contribute to ethnic tensions. In addition, widespread illegality erodes confidence in the law generally, and immigration law specifically, while being unfair to those who seek to immigrate legally."

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2019 9:28 a.m.

    He will spend until he breaks the bank. He is a bankruptcy king.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    June 19, 2019 7:17 a.m.

    What have you done worf?

    How many illegal aliens have you deported?

    On a project in California I walked four men off the job because they could not understand English. I submitted my report as a safety concern.

    In Montana I turned in a landscape contractor for verbally abusing his illegal workers. The judge did nothing but hang a target on my back.

    In Colorado I refused cable TV service because the installers could hardly speak English. I had no cable TV for nearly a year.

    In Atlanta I quit the project because all the workers were illegal aliens and they were grossly underpaid. The contracting company hired illegal aliens at $8 to $14 an hour with no benefits. That job was bid to have paid Americans $25 to $35 an hour with excellent benefits. The contractor did it because they knew they could get away with it.

    Yesterday, I told the roofing contractor he could not step on to my property unless his workers are fully documented.

    Please tell me, what have you done?

  • J. Smith Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2019 4:57 a.m.

    Critics of Fox News may discount the effectiveness of the right wing outlet’s effort to transform America into a fascist theocracy controlled by the ultra-rich and extremist evangelicals, but that would be a monumental mistake. Like all successful propaganda agencies, Fox broadcasts talking points crafted by evangelical and corporate activists nonstop until their mendacious messaging is considered biblical truths.

    Fox News, like Republicans and Trump, could never succeed as an ultra-conservative propaganda outlet without an ignorant population. The only way to continue having success at propagandizing is convincing Americans that being educated and informed is detrimental to the nation and its citizens; something Fox and Republicans have been very successful at over the past two years.

    The idea that education is bad for the country is contrary to the belief of the Declaration of Independence’s author, Founding Father and third American President Thomas Jefferson. He said: “An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people.”

  • Golden Rules Okay, OK
    June 18, 2019 11:34 p.m.

    No reason to deport millions. It's so much easier to just say that you are deporting millions.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2019 8:37 p.m.

    Bush deported millions. Obama deported millions.
    Donald Trump announces that he's going to do the same.
    Good for him, for finally realizing what presidents do!

  • oaklandaforlife Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2019 8:25 p.m.

    @ConservativeCommonTater,

    "In my opinion, Trump is the worst president in our history."

    Your opinion is tried and true. There is simply no reason to disagree with your comment at all.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    June 18, 2019 8:15 p.m.

    One thing is certain; it will require great effort to dig them out of the shadows.

    The 2008 program, Operation Scheduled Departure, was a total flop. Only 8 people came forward and volunteered to be sent home, despite the standing deportation order against them.

    It will be interesting to see the universal injunctions from the circuit courts on this one. Every time they block Trump, they are helping him get reelected.

    Not to mention the soundbites coming from House Democrats.

  • wgirl , 00
    June 18, 2019 7:00 p.m.

    Trump has said a lot of things about immigration, and tweeted a lot of things about immigration, but what has he actually done?

    Mexico didn't pay for a wall.
    Money to strengthen existing border fencing was appropriated long before he came into office.
    The troops he sent can't actually perform immigration enforcement roles - if you believe in the Constitution that is.

    The number of people coming into our country has skyrocketed during Trump's 2 1/2 years.

    He refused to sign at least two immigration and border security bills - he even shut down the government instead of signing one of them in December. He hasn't brokered his own immigration deal. He seems incapable of doing so. He had to reverse course on his own executive order that forced children from the arms of their parents. Nothing much came of his national emergency.

    So it is just more of the bluster, the threats, and the mean-girl tweets.

    We need to do something to get these people processed through the courts - racist threats won't help.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    June 18, 2019 6:55 p.m.

    Blame, blame, blame!

    There isn't a big gap between Democrats and Republicans. Both are responsible for the mess we're in. Immigration, national debt, poor education, etc.

    Let's identify and fix the problem!

  • Yuge Opportunity Here Mapleton, UT
    June 18, 2019 4:32 p.m.

    I'll believe it when I see it. We've heard the promises before.

    The timing is suspect, just as he kicks of the campaign.

    Where was his enforcement surge in 2017 or 2018?

    Still, it's better than Obama when he called for new proceedings for 300,000 people with deportation orders.

    At least this move will flush out all the Dems who want them granted amnesty instead. Voters take note of such reactions by Dem candidates. Hillary feel for it.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    June 18, 2019 3:49 p.m.

    Wait. We still have an illegal immigration problem? I thought we built a gigantic wall that Mexico paid for? Plus, no one else in US government knows about this or has any plans. This should be interesting to watch next week. Remind how 2 out of 3 of Trump's wives managed to come here and bring their chain migrating parents.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    June 18, 2019 3:45 p.m.

    We are in this mess today because House Republicans refused to pass comprehensive immigration reform in 2006 and 2013.

    Democrats have been trying to pass immigration reform for the past 20 years and Republicans have stopped them everytime.

    Now Trump wants to do a mass deportation to clean up the mess Republicans created.

    I agree we need to deport those who have been given every chance to becone legal.

    I do not agree with with mass deportations.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    June 18, 2019 3:27 p.m.

    Don't expect mass deportations right away or at all considering the obstacles to clear in a large scale commitment the White House may not have the will to carry out. The hope is that the mere threat to do so will keep the base stirred up.

  • ConservativeCommonTater Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2019 2:04 p.m.

    Harrison Bergeron - Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2019 1:39 p.m.
    ConservativeCommonTater: “…we should be deporting the illegal Hispanics that are flooding across our borders.”

    "Your comment is reassuring coming from the other side (although we should deport all illegal aliens regardless of ethnicity..."

    Agreed! But, illegal Hispanics (the last time I checked numbers was about a year ago) were about 59% Mexican and the other Hispanics brought it up to about 81%.

    The other 19% are a mixture of Asian, Middle Eastern, African, English, Irish, Canadian and several other countries. My ancestry is Irish, English and Scandinavian. They don't deserve to come here illegally either, just as I wouldn't be able to go to their countries illegally.

    Thanks for you positive comments.

  • Harrison Bergeron Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2019 1:39 p.m.

    ConservativeCommonTater: “…we should be deporting the illegal Hispanics that are flooding across our borders.”

    Your comment is reassuring coming from the other side (although we should deport all illegal aliens regardless of ethnicity who have final deportation orders from a court). So many on the left are so blinded by hatred for Trump, they cannot see this as a bipartisan issue. I was no fan of Obama, but I supported anything he was willing to do in this regard.

    ConservativeCommonTater: “This flood of illegal Hispanics started when Ronnie Raygun gave amnesty to several million illegal Hispanics.”

    True fact. Ed Meese Attorney General under Reagan later acknowledged it was a mistake: “In exchange for allowing aliens to stay, [Reagan] decided, border security and enforcement of immigration laws would be greatly strengthened — in particular, through sanctions against employers who hired illegal immigrants.” (Edwin Meese III “An Amnesty by Any Other Name ...” New York Times, May 24, 2006)

    Amnesty was granted, but the border security and employer sanctions never happened. Let’s not get duped a second time.

    Good comment +1❤.

  • Joe Hilll Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2019 12:43 p.m.

    trump says US will start deporting million next week and the people that actually do the removing say "that's news to us." the more thing the more they stay the same with our twitter in chief.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    June 18, 2019 12:35 p.m.

    "The official spoke on condition of anonymity to explain the president's tweets."
    ____________________
    On condition of anonymity is the bigger story here, the ONLY story worthy of a breaking news headline. I would have been stunned, shocked, and outraged to have seen that as the case in any previous Administration where transparency and accountability are taken for granted as the norms to be expected from Republicans or Democrats. But this is one of Trump's people so I'm not too surprised.

  • ConservativeCommonTater Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2019 12:31 p.m.

    Thid Barker - Victor, ID
    June 18, 2019 12:18 p.m.
    "Just one more problem President Trump is fixing caused by democrats!"

    Yes Thid, it was that Democrat, St. Ronnie Raygun, that first gave amnesty and citizenship to illegal Hispanic aliens, back in the 80's. He said that would stop them from coming here illegally.

    Wrong again, but always partisan with your incorrect comments.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    June 18, 2019 12:18 p.m.

    Just one more problem President Trump is fixing caused by democrats!

  • ConservativeCommonTater Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2019 12:06 p.m.

    In my opinion, Trump is the worst president in our history.

    That said, we should be deporting the illegal Hispanics that are flooding across our borders. They believe they have a "RIGHT" to come here ahead of others that apply to come here legally.

    This flood of illegal Hispanics started when Ronnie Raygun gave amnesty to several million illegal Hispanics. He said that by doing that it would stop them from coming. In what universe that makes sense, I don't know.

    These people should be deported. I'm no Trump supporter and formed my opinion in the early 80's when I lived in LA, Ca.

    The people that are supporting the invasion of illegal Hispanics above all others would be called racists if they were advocating for only allowing "whites" to come here illegally.

    We should have the choice of who we allow in the country. Not everyone that wants to come here will be able to, and no, there are not exceptions because of race/ethnic origin.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    June 18, 2019 11:59 a.m.

    For a man who made solving the immigration crisis the central platform of his Presidency he has shown to be a complete failure and the situation has exacerbated under his watch.
    His whole life has been about bluster, bravado and failure and he's brought those attributes to the WH.

  • one old man MSC, UT
    June 18, 2019 11:36 a.m.

    Now we're about to be subjected to almost a year of trump using all his sleazy tactics of drum up enough votes to infest the White House for another four years.

    Prepare yourselves for non-stop hate, lies, insults, and fantastic fantasies designed to suck in gullible people.

  • WatchDog Draper, UT
    June 18, 2019 11:18 a.m.

    The solution to this problem does not take a rocket science degree.

    We need to start by recognizing that what is happening is a very real invasion; and send our troops to our southern border, to close it. Period.

    Then, we need to start enforcing already existing laws about the hiring of illegal aliens, and enforcing our laws against VISA overstayers. ALL these people need deported. ASAP.

    Once we have these issues resolved, we then can consider reopening our border to LEGAL entry, according to OUR needs. Not anyone else's, but our needs. Needless to say, any foreigner must demonstrate their ability to provide for themselves.

    Not to be forgotten in this plan, is assimilation. Foreigners need to be willing to assimilate, and the numbers allowed to reenter must be imacted by assimilation, or the number coming must be limited accordingly.