Masked gunman killed in shootout at Dallas courthouse

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  • Zabilde Riverdale, UT
    June 18, 2019 10:06 a.m.

    Good job to the good guys with guns.

    My primary point for this comment is to critique the AP reporter who wrote this article and called the rifle a high powered rifle

    The AR he was using is not a High Powered rifle. It's a .22 with extra powder. It's technically an intermediate caliber weapon. It has an effective range of 300 meters, it can and will cause fatal wounds further out but accuracy and lethality drop off greatly beyond that distance due to the light weight of the bullet.

    Well said NoNames

    Your average deer rifle is a true high power rifle. Many of them are also semi-automatic and can accept standard capacity magazines. And with a decent scope are effective out to a mile.

    And limiting magazine sizes won't make a difference. The VA Tech shooter fired 170 rounds from 17 magazines.

    Again good job to the good guys with guns. His choice of targets and lack of victims really does point to this being a suicide by cop.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    June 18, 2019 9:29 a.m.

    Tolstoy

    thank you

    we don't often agree, but I will give you credit for your generally even responses. they often help me moderate mine.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    June 17, 2019 7:45 p.m.

    @Joe Hilll: "before anyone even gets started. He was shot by professional officers trained to handle active shooters."

    And thank heavens there were good guys with guns to stop the bad guy with a gun.

    Since I can't carry a cop around with me everywhere I go, I'm glad I live in Utah where most government property is mandated to respect my individual RKBA such that I am not left defenseless. Carrying a gun doesn't guarantee I will survive. But it gives me a fighting chance.

    Nor do I ever intend to play cop or to go on the offensive against an active shooter. That is what the trained pros are for once they show up. Heaven forbid I'm ever in such a situation, I intend to escape (run away) if at all possible. If I can't run, I intend to shelter in place (hide). From whatever shelter I can find, I will then engage in defensive action (fight back) if the violent criminal seeks me out.

    Notice this is exactly what professionals encourage everyone to do. I just think that the fighting back part is generally way more effective with a hand gun than with a backpack, a chair, or throwing coffee mugs. But to each their own.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    June 17, 2019 7:34 p.m.

    @lost in dc
    I agree. I worked with an officer that was forced to kill someone that wanted to be killed. It ended the officers career, nearly destroyed his marriage and devastated his physical and mental health. He was able to find so relief with therapy but his life is forever changed. I have also worked with many veterans and the thing I have learned is that it is one thing to talk about and train for the possibility of having to end someone’s life it’s a whole other thing to actually have to do it

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    June 17, 2019 2:46 p.m.

    If you really think charging a courthouse guns ablaze is a good idea, you’ve obviously got problems.

    I hate what these guys who commit suicide by cops do to our dedicated public servants.

  • Joe Hilll Salt Lake City, UT
    June 17, 2019 1:14 p.m.

    before anyone even gets started. He was shot by professional officers trained to handle active shooters.