Utah QB Cameron Rising's petition to play in 2019 denied by NCAA; Derrick Vickers granted extra year of eligibility

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  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 19, 2019 2:51 p.m.

    BleedingBlue:

    "Did the NCAA say why they denied Risings wavier?"

    If they had, it hadn't been reported yet.

    "Can he play this year for a school like Snow and still have 3 years to play at Utah?"

    Yes. But if he signed with Snow, that would open him up to other recruiters for the 2020 season and beyond, so it would be in Utah's best interest to let him hold on to one of our scholarships, as he'll DEFINITELY be a force on our QB roster effective 2020.

    GO UTES!!!

  • BleedingBlue Provo, UT
    June 19, 2019 2:13 p.m.

    Did the NCAA say why they denied Risings wavier? Can he play this year for a school like Snow and still have 3 years to play at Utah? Sadly you need to be a legal expert to play college sports. Except for their first game go UTE’s!

  • top of the world ,
    June 19, 2019 11:08 a.m.

    Good for Vickers. As far as the QB spot is concerned, barring injuries the Utes will be just fine. I wish those guys the best of success (losing to my team, of course...unlikely, I know). I was just as excited about last years team but, as close as they came, they just couldn't get over the top. This year they will win the PAC...there's not a team out there that will be able to stop them. I do realize that, as in years past, they can stop themselves. Let's hope that doesn't happen this year because I see what can be a very special team. NC? Maybe. It's going to be a terrific year for them. If they can just manage to lose the first game. Perhaps, like one of the Ute fans posted last year, they can maybe play their junior varsity in that one, given that the Y is not a worthy opponent for the first team.

    These threads are a blast. Even those without a shred of sense to them make for an enjoyable day. Thanks DN. Get ready for a great season of football in the great state of Utah. And here's my pre-season ranking. You will remember that last year it ended with USU, Utah and then the Y. This coming season begins with Utah, USU and the Y. Catch my column on...oops, I don't have a column.

  • packers roy, UT
    June 19, 2019 10:52 a.m.

    Though I feel sorry for "Bad Moon Rising", IMO, it's the best thing that could happen for the Utes, he will be able to be around the team, building team chemistry without being a threat to the current QB's in the room, If he pans out then the Utes will have a decent QB for the next 4 years, again sorry for the player but happy for the program. Go Utes

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    June 18, 2019 10:24 a.m.

    I, as a true Ute, am very happy about this decision concerning "Bad Moon" Rising. I think Jayson Shelley is very valuable to Utah. I could see him transferring if he fought Rising for the 2 spot this season. Drew Lisk is very impressive as well. Things should be positive in fall camp this season!!!!!!

    Goooooooo Utes!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 18, 2019 9:33 a.m.

    The NCAA is a joke.

    Bad Moon Rising
    Now opening in Fall of 2020

    Go UTES!

  • CougarForever Holladay, Utah
    June 17, 2019 8:39 p.m.

    How the NCAA decides to grant exceptions and allow some non-grad transferring players to play before waiting a year is mysterious.

    Sbnation's take on this reflects the inconsistency: After first explaining "The basic rule: If a [non-grad] player transfers, they have to sit out a season. They aren’t allowed to play in games for a full academic year, though they can practice and train with their new team during that time." they then point out "The NCAA also just grants waivers when it feels like it."

    They quote an NCAA spokesperson: "In addition to the rules ... , there is also a waiver process available. Schools can submit waivers to the national office if they believe there are special circumstances that warrant an exception to the rule ....
    Because we cannot contemplate every type of mitigation that may be presented, these are considered on a case-by-case basis by the staff. There is always an appeal opportunity to a committee of members if the school does not agree with the waiver decision."

    Their summary: "... the NCAA can do what it wants anyway, because it’s ultimately answerable only to itself on these decisions."

    Frustration with this process is understandable.

  • CougarForever Holladay, Utah
    June 17, 2019 8:14 p.m.

    @FT

    "They [the Utes] enter the year with two of the best QB's in the league ... "

    Bleacherreport lists Herbert (Oregon), Costello (Stanford) and Eason (Washington) in their top 8 QB draft prospects for 2020. WalterFootball lists Herbert, Costello and Eason in their top 5 and Montez (Colorado) at #9. Draftwire/USAToday also lists all 4 of these in their top 10.

    Khalil Tate at Arizona should be a real threat once again if the coaching staff in Tucson design offensive schemes to take advantage of his strengths. Daniels at USC ultimately may thrive with a new OC (although he likely will struggle early in the season).

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 17, 2019 6:52 p.m.

    The NCAA is a joke...how in the world do Justin Fields and Tate Martell get approved for ridiculous reasons, and guys like Luke Ford and Cameron Rising who have far more legitimate reasons are denied? It's completely random and completely a joke.

    That said, this may actually be a blessing in disguise for Utah. Rising is good enough that he could have pushed for PT...and sometimes that motivates the QB1, and sometimes it just distracts and frustrates him. This way Huntley won't have to worry about it and can just focus on balling. Then Utah will still have Rising for the next 3 years.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 17, 2019 6:07 p.m.

    CR can still appeal & will, as he should.....Such inconsistency by NCAA, across the nation.

    DV has worked so hard for this opportunity & finally received it.....Very pleased for this young man.

    Go Utes!

  • JustGordon Salt Lake City, UT
    June 17, 2019 3:43 p.m.

    Seems like only those who think that the UTES are a midmajor in the PAC12 also think the NCAA's decision is terrible for the UTES! The UTES already have two qb's better than Wilson and in 2020 with Rising's eligibility will now have three at are better. Quarterback U is on the Hill now!

  • pacmidmajor Springville, UT
    June 17, 2019 2:10 p.m.

    This is Terrible news for the utes ......

  • JackRyanSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    June 17, 2019 2:03 p.m.

    NCAA is a joke with their inconsistency on these rulings. That said, assuming Huntley and Shelley stay healthy, it is probably best for the program long term.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 17, 2019 12:50 p.m.

    I can see no advantage to the NCAA's denial of Risings waiver, as Rising had already used his redshirt last year. Had the NCAA approved it, he would have had 4 years to play 4. But with the denial, he thereby has 3 years to play 3.

    Oh well. Getting him for 3-yrs is better than not getting him at all.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    June 17, 2019 12:22 p.m.

    The Utes are deep and strong at the QB position and will be for years. Jason Shelley is a beautiful backup to Ty Huntley. Both are proven leaders. For two or three seasons we have seen QB's go down for the Utes and backups who come in and don't miss a beat. Now---will we see strength and depth along the O line? Time will tell.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    June 17, 2019 12:19 p.m.

    I am sure that Whitt and Utah will petition the NCAA for reconsideration. There is a process for that.

    Would love to have Rising available now. Not because I think he'd start, but for meaningful practice reps.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    June 17, 2019 12:16 p.m.

    Totally agree with FT. This pushes QB completion to the future. This year there's plenty of depth, barring an unforeseen injury bug.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    June 17, 2019 12:00 p.m.

    too bad for Rising, but it means one less distraction in camp knowing the QB pecking order.

  • Obama10 SYRACUSE, UT
    June 17, 2019 11:21 a.m.

    How about coaches and AD's have to sit out a year when they want to transfer schools in the middle of their contracts. Contracts are good for only the players but coaches and ADs can "transfer" whenever they like.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    June 17, 2019 11:08 a.m.

    While disappointing to Cameron it was good news for the Utes. They enter the year with two of the best QB's in the league returning with a lot of experience. This sets the team up with a strong QB in place for the next four years.