Kathleen Parker: Rapists' rights defy reason

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  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    June 17, 2019 4:43 p.m.

    @ 2 bits

    "[Abortion] should be very rare in a modern society with so many forms of birth control at our disposal."

    So continue the thought. Why isn't it rare then? Why aren't females protecting themselves? What could some of the reasons be beyond the prejudicial ones anti-abortionists like to attribute to them? Maybe:

    Poverty
    Poverty and lack of insurance
    Poverty and lack of access to low-cost clinics (think of all the PP clinics the anti-abortionists have shut down)
    Minors not knowing their rights (in many states, parental permission isn't required to get an Rx)
    Pharmacists/health care providers refusing to dispense due to religious beliefs
    Religious teachings against contraceptive use
    Lack of accurate information about contraceptives (often a problem with abstinence-only programs)

    I'm with you. I think we should make it so easy for females to get birth control that getting pregnant would virtually always be an intentional act rather than a mere by-product of sex (or sexual assault).

    I also agree that males using contraceptives goes without saying, i.e., it's hardly ever said. Not in this context. The focus instead is almost exclusively on the behavior of the female.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 17, 2019 8:05 a.m.

    Shaun,
    LDS 2 was talking about "individual reproductive rights of women". I was replying to that comment. So I focused on the rights of women to control their reproductive system. And touched on the many methods women have in our modern society to control their reproductive system. Some methods women didn't have just a generation ago. Which make Abortion almost obsolete. It should be very rare in a modern society with so many forms of birth control at our disposal. And very inexpensive.

    Of course men should control their reproductive systems too. That goes without saying. I didn't think I needed to point that out.

    There will be criminals, who use sex as a weapon (rapists, etc). In those cases those people are abusing their rights and abuse your right to control your own reproductive system. But even in those cases there are options before it comes to abortion (Plan-B pill, etc).

    You don't have to wait till late term to figure out it was a rape. You know that right when it happens. Report it (so we can punish the offender and support you in getting justice) and take precautions to avoid unwanted pregnancy. Don't wait 3-8 months and then abort the child.

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    June 15, 2019 11:01 a.m.

    2bits

    I disagree somewhat. Why is birth control typically put on women?

    We all know the answer. If men aren’t going to be 100 percent in charge for birth control then it is really hard to put all the responsibilities on women.

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    June 15, 2019 9:09 a.m.

    Under Mosaic law, this was not a problem; today, it should be part of the law that conviction automatically establishes a restraining order for the assailant to never come near the victims, i.e. the woman and her child. The child is as much a victim as it's mother.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 14, 2019 3:03 p.m.

    @LDS 2
    Legally treading all over the individual rights of babies to continue their life defies reason (IMO)

    Don't tread on Babies!

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    The right to control your individual reproduction happens way before abortion can even occur. Your reproduction control starts before conception.

    By the time abortion is an issue... the woman has already exercised her reproductive rights.

    If it was a rape...
    #1. Report immediately (for legal justice)
    #2. There's emergency contraception (Plan-B Pill, etc). $12 OCT (no prescription needed) or insurance covers it 100% if your doctor prescribes it.

    Abortion should be last resort.

    If she decides on this option... it should be done early (before heart and brain activity start) not just before birth as some abortion advocates are suing to protect.

    If the mother decides to carry the baby longer... There are 2 lives, not just one. It's no longer a unilateral decision.

    The baby should have a lawyer to protect their rights.

    Sure the mother has a right to protect her reproductive rights. But the baby has a right to protect their own life as well.

  • Traveller Farmington, UT
    June 14, 2019 11:17 a.m.

    I don't want to appear heartless, but consider which is the larger group:

    Women who are raped and forced by this law to carry a child that resulted from that rape to term, choose to keep their child rather than put it up for adoption, and then find they have to fight the rapist for parental rights.

    How many rapists will actually attempt this, and how many courts will have to seriously consider their claims rather than just dismissing them outright? It seems probable this will be a rather small group. As a starting point, roughly 2,000 rapes occur in Alabama in a year, and the national percentage of pregnancies from rape is around 5%.

    The other group is the women and men who without this law will be killed before they are even born. Abortion rates in Alabama are currently around 8.3 per 1,000 women. We're talking more than 20,000 people per year.

    The comparison is between a small group that with the law may have to deal with serious trauma and possibly complicated parental rights issues, and a much larger group who without the law will all be KILLED.

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    June 14, 2019 10:31 a.m.

    Legally treading all over the individual reproductive rights of women defies reason!

    Don't tread on women!