"Open to foreign election help"?Not nearly as wrong of being
"open to main stream media election help"!Main stream media
has done more to manipulate elections than Russia has ever done.Likely,--Democrats have colluded with the media on many occasions. Right?
How incredibly refreshing to have a leader who tells the truth! If
only the media, in particular Jonathan Lemire and Lisa Mascaro of the Associated
Press could be so honest. Lemire and Mascaro frequently “colorize”
and/or suppress information in order to tell the story that fits their agenda.
Buried near the bottom of the article is the rest of the quote: "I think
maybe you do both” (listen and give it to the FBI).In my
opinion Nancy Pelosi is one of the most dishonest and hypocritical people I have
ever been forced to listen to. She distorts the facts, tells outright lies, and
has supported every negative rumor regarding President Trump that she find or
create. For her and her fellow outraged colleagues to imply that
they have suddenly found integrity and honor such that they would immediately
call the FBI, and would not even peek at foreign dirt on President Trump, is the
biggest belly-laugh of the week. Anyone who believes that Nancy Pelosi would not
jump headlong into a cesspool in search of dirt on President Trump or any other
opponent is truly beguiled.
@unrepentant progressive - Bozeman, MT"Real Americans, the ones
that make this country work, know that a President who would knowingly conspire
with foreign powers to retain power is not worthy of that office. In fact, he
may not be worthy of be called an American."Real Americans also
know that a President who would knowingly authorize the lying to a court in
order to wire tap the opposition party's candidate for President should
have been impeached if there were enough time. Russia buying ads on FB to sow
discord is nothing compared to a President abusing the public trust like that.
Utefan"Fox news admitted it was wrong"I watched
FOX news last night and not once did I hear "they admitted it was
wrong".Contrary to popular folkore in today's propaganda
culture where anything dirty from a foreign source is bad illegal and
treasonous, wrong there is no law making it illegal to get dirt from a foreign
source on your political oponent. It is only illegal if Trump does it.Yes Hillary Clinton paid for dirt from The Russian's the same russians
Trump was accused of conspiring with, it doesn't matter that a third party
source compiled the fake dirt, it came from russians none the less, if Trump did
that it would make him a traitor, yet Trump hasn't done that and you anti
trumpies still think he is a traitor based on no evidence.Because of
the hyper sensitivity of russian election interference of 2016 is the only thing
that makes his comments unwise, other than that Trump is completely right.If I'm wrong then please site the law that prohibits anyone from
collecting dirt on ones political oponent from foreign sources illegal, I'm
@ 2 bits"Foreign help" is "help from a foreign
government." Steele isn't a government nor was he doing his work on
behalf of a government. (See the Wikipedia piece you cited, the section titled,
"Research funded by Democrats produces dossier.")He also
didn't cooperate with the Russian government to get his information.
(Again, see the Wikipedia piece you cited, the section titled, "Research
funded by Democrats produces dossier.")With respect to your
concerns about "innocence," presumably aka "legality," I would
also recommend the section titled, "What the DNC, Clinton campaign, and
Steele knew."It's actually a thorough, informative piece,
IMO. I'd recommend that everyone read it.
Karen R"Much of the dossier remains unverified....think Trump
tower"It must be awfully confusing for someone who admit's
the dossier which "much ...remains unverified" the same dossier used to
start an investigation of Carter Page who was supposedly a russia spy, of who
recently made public had been working with the CIA and FBI as a undercover
informant prior to 2016, and who was never charged with a crime. This same
dossier whom Christopher turned over to the state dept gave a statement
clarifying it is a political document and it's sources came from the
Russian consulate in Miami, except there is no Russian consulate in Miami.Mueller clearly stated in his report they did not find evidence that
anyone in the trump campaign coordinated with Russia in its election
interference activities.So why do you and trump haters continue to
pettle this lie?As for the trump tower meeting, Mueller cleared them
in that regard. Also the Russian lawyer was paid by Fusion GPS and met with them
before and after the trump tower meeting. That whole thing was a set up.Yet you continue to pettle the fake news - FOX news got this whole story
right for two years, yet you still believe Maddow
Trump said exactly what is being reported. ExactlyFox News even was
appalled by Trump's statements. An no he didn't misspeak.His apoligists can not blame the Clintons, Obama, or anyone else but the guy
who actually said this treasonous statement. And he did say it. His
daily lies, and his supporters who continue to enable this treasonous behavior
are not going unnoticed. This crime spree will end, and America and it's
good citizens will lick their wounds and the world will allow us to heal. No Trump supporter can twist this one, even Fox News admitted it was
Unrepentant"I am truly saddened by the poor excuses offered by
the Trump apologist's....all ridiculous on the face of it".Let's see, Trump is currently the POTUS, he currently speaks to foriegn
leaders everyday that is part of his job. Is he supposed to become a recluse
and stop speaking with foreign leaders? Now that is ridiculous.There
are no laws about gathering dirt on your oponent, apparently even if you pay for
it regardless if it comes from a foreign source or not.Take into
consideration that in Bill Clinton's reelection campaign they took in
millions of donations from the chinese to help him get him reelected, research
Johnny Chung, the Riady family and Lippo,Ltd all from hong kong.Bill
Clinton recieving 750k in speaking fee's from the russian's, the
Clinton foundation recieving millions in the Uranium One deal that sold uranium
to the Russians.Donald Trump has been cleared of conspiracy in four
different investigations supposedly conspiring with foreign countries, it seems
that Trump is the only one that isnt conspiring with foreign countries,I'm truly disturbed that americans support the left and their lies, the
same party that supports socialism.
@Karen R,Please google "Trump–Russia dossier -
Wikipedia"...and read it, if you think it's totally innocent, and
not "foreign help" to the Clinton Campaign.Wikipedia"The Trump–Russia dossier, also known as the Steele dossier, is a
private intelligence report written in 2016 containing allegations of misconduct
and conspiracy between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and the
Government of Russia during the 2016 election.Authored by
Christopher Steele, a former head of the Russia Desk for British intelligence
(MI6)While compiling the dossier, Steele passed information to both
British and American intelligence services.The media, the
intelligence community, and most experts have treated the dossier with caution
due to its unverified allegationsSome allegations of the dossier
have been corroborated, however much of the dossier remains unverified. One
allegation was rejected by the Mueller Report"...
@ 2 bits and othersLet me make the distinction even clearer:Hiring a private citizen to investigate someone, which all campaigns
doVersusWelcoming/seeking assistance from a foreign
GOVERNMENT whose purpose is adversary to your own nation's.It
doesn't matter that Steele is a Brit. He wasn't acting as an agent of
the British government or any other government either.Also not
relevant: Doing his digging in Russia. Where else would any investigator worth
his salt go but where the subject had been? And why would Fusion GPS hire
someone without Russian expertise and contacts to do this work? I think some
are seeing conspiracy where there's only common sense.Also, per
the testimony of Glenn Simpson, Fusion GPS, he didn't tell Steele what to
look for. He doesn't tell his investigators what to look for to avoid
inadvertently limiting their scope. He says, "Here's the subject. Go
find out what you can."@ LostMueller didn't
investigate collusion. But can it be said that Trump colluded with the
conspirator Mueller did find? To collude is to cooperate in a secret or
unlawful way in order to deceive or gain an advantage over others. Think Trump
Continued...They seem equally "Bad" to me.Why do
you excuse the one, and excoriate the other? It's the same thing!
Looking for dirt on your opponent.
@Karen R,I've read it, so you can stop asking that. People read just
like you.Google "Full text of "The Steele Dossier - Trump
Intelligence Allegations"...---To read it.My
feelings after reading it were mostly sadness.Sad that Russia had
this much dirt on Trump. And sadness that Clinton Campaign would pay a foreign
Spy to work their contacts inside the Kremlin to compile this list.After reading it I think different people would draw different conclusions
(based on their political-bais and their political-agenda).There
were things that made Trump look good, and bad.On good side things
like, "So far TRUMP has declined various sweetener real estate business
deals".On bad side things like "Former top Russian
intelligence officer claims FSB has compromised TRUMP through his
activities in Moscow sufficiently to be able to blackmail him"...There's a lot more of course, but I have few words and a point to
make.The point being... is it worse to go to a meeting where dirt
may be discussed.... than to hire a foreign spy to work his contacts in the FSB
to get dirt Russia has on your opponent?Cont...
I guess it depends.Is hiring a spy from Britain (which is a foreign
nation)... to work with his contacts in the Russian CIA (which is a foreign
nation)... to compile a Dossier of dirt on your political opponent... considered
"foreign help"?Hillary Clinton was obviously looking for all
the dirt on her opponent she could get. And she didn't care if it came
from foreign agents, or Russian agents. But nobody in the media cares about
that... why?They only care about Trump being OK with getting any
dirt possible on his opponents.BTW... does it matter if that dirt
comes from somebody in a foreign country that has intel on your opponent or if
that person with the intel is a US Citizen?And if that US Citizen is
hiring spys from foreign nations to compile his dirt list... is it not the same
as Don Jr going to a meeting where he may get some dirt on Hillary?Just wondering.I would be careful Dems. Your candidates get dirt
on their opponents too. The same way other politicians get dirt on their
Don’t know why the dem sycophants would get so upset about this. The whole
Mueller investigation was based on a phony dossier concocted by a UK
intelligence agent. Since Mueller found no evidence of collusion, the info in
the dossier, however inflammatory, was fakeFT who said it was
illegal? if it’s OK for the GOP to start and for the DNC to continue, why
is it not OK for trump to go the same route?Helmsman“Glorious Leader”? BO? he's goneFabulous jenstolen furniture? funny since the Clintons took the WH furniture when they
leftModerateRussia is supporting him? Where do you get your
world view?MaverickThe Mueller reports no evidence of
collusion; it contends a vigorous defense is obstructionCancer in
the executive? We cut that out in Jan 2017GaryObamaLying,
cheating, thieving makes him VERY much like hilarySportsfan123Corrupt DOJ and AG, not just FBIWgirlThe Mueller report? It
said there is insufficient evidence of collusion. How do
“insufficient” and “verified” co-exist?CNN
and others refused to report on the dossier because doing so would weaken their
anti-trump narrative.Karen RThe Russians helped trump. Did he
collude? Mueller said no
I am truly saddened by the poor excuses offered by Trump apologists. But
Hillary!, Everybody does it!, etc. etc. etc. All are ridiculous on the face of
it.Real Americans, the ones that make this country work, know that a
President who would knowingly conspire with foreign powers to retain power is
not worthy of that office. In fact, he may not be worthy of be called an
American.None dare call it treason.
Democrats are falling for this hook, line, and sinker. This is delicious! @Fabulous Jen - Eagle Mountain, UT"So someone breaks
into your house and steals all your furniture."If you remove
your front door and put a sign over it reading "Steal from me!' then
that's on you. Let's not forget the Russians tried hacking RNC
computers too. But failed because Republicans aren't that careless?@one old man - MSC, UT"I don't know about you, but
my Mommy told me that just because "everybody" was doing it that was not
a reason for me to do it. But my mother expected her kids to grow up and be
honest."This is laughable considering Democrats ran Bill and
Hillary Clinton for President in 2016.
@ NoNamesSorry, but there is just no equivalency between:1) Retaining a private investigator to get info on your competitor's
activities in a foreign country where he has spent a lot of time; and2) Welcoming and independently seeking info on a competitor from a foreign
country - info that you know to be stolen and the foreign country known to be
one that wants to ultimately sink your country.I think Trumplicans
must have a magnet stored too close to their moral compasses because it seems
terribly askew. They seem unfazed that Trump's campaign had dozens of
contacts with a foreign adversary; that Trump was actively seeking a business
deal with this country while campaigning and didn't tell the truth about
this; or that he has gone from saying "no contacts with Russia" to
"the contacts with Russia weren't illegal" to "I'd use
info from Russia and foreign adversaries against an American competitor."
(We know!)And, finally - and for the umpteenth time...Dossier Not Generator of Investigation.Investigation Ongoing For
Weeks Before Dossier Provided To FBI.
Democrats assail to preventing the birth of full term babies.Democrats assail to open borders even though thousands of Americans have been
killed by drugs crossing in.Democrats assail to taking the earnings
of hard working Americans and giving it away.Democrats assail to
open restrooms used by both genders.Trump is a great president
because Democrats assail to not liking him.
@Fabulous Jen: "So someone breaks into your house and steals all your
furniture."I was thinking more like someone breaks into your
house and steals all your guns. How much liability and criminal penalties will
Jen impose for not keeping the guns better secured? But if it is just the
nation's top secret information--the definition of "top secret" is
"information, the release of which would cause grave harm to national
defense"--she'll compare it to a living room rocking chair.Bill Clinton took all kinds of foreign money.Obama and Hillary
used foreign information--the dossier--to start the whole investigation of
Trump. And now the Democrats are all upset that Trump admits that he'd use
good intel whatever the source?As for "trick questions", do
tell us when you stopped beating your wife. Or tell us, if you had to make a
choice, would you give the only life vest to your mother or your wife knowing
the other would drown without it? There are some questions for which there is no
acceptable answer.But keep attacking and investigating Trump rather
than putting forth solid platforms, plans, and credible candidates. You guys are
assuring you get to live with a Trump 2nd term.
I remember presidents back to Eisenhower, and cannot imagine any of them telling
the world that winning important enough to compromise our electoral system,
national security, and his own principles (of course, most modern POTUS's
had at least some of those) by being party to a conspiracy with a foreign
source. A candidate openly approving and implicitly inviting foreign
help to be elected becomes indebted to that foreign country or source. He or she
becomes, in effect, an agent of that country or source, subject to influence,
pressure, subornment, bribery, threat, or good old-fashioned extortion if that
candidate has dirt in his/her closet. I do not want an agent of
Canada, France, Germany, or Japan as president of the United States. That
isn’t what we have to fear. The greater danger, given the entire Trump
family’s tangled and mysterious web of relationships with the
world’s worst despots, is that the strings that control American
government will be pulled in Moscow, Pyongyang, Riyadh, or Beijing. If this does
not fit in the category of “high crimes and misdemeanors,” up to and
including the potential for treason, then there is no such thing as a high crime
@ jsf"Please show where any of the Steele dossier or any part of
the dossier has been verified.""The Steele Dossier: A
Retrospective," LawfareBlog, 12/14/18, offers a fair assessment. But the
primary verification is Vol. 1 of the Mueller Report. The Russians conducted
systematic attempts to interfere in the 2016 election, both to aid Trump and to
sow division among Americans. The dossier says this too, at several different
points. Have you read either?
@jsf: "Please show where any of the Steele dossier or any part of the
dossier has been verified."Sure, the Mueller report.You bashed CNN, but remember, CNN and most other news outlets actually refused
to report on the Dossier because they couldn't verify it at the time.
(Hannity talked about it non-stop). Buzz Feed was the only news outlet, at the
time, that would publish it. "BuzzFeed never asserted the
dossier was true but said the public deserved to be aware of the reports
circulating at the highest levels of the U.S. government and believed to be part
of a potential effort by Russia to gain leverage over Trump."The
Dossier included several intelligence reports that documented ties between the
Trump campaign and Russia. At the time, Trump said, "I have
nothing to do with Russia," "I have no business with Russia." Those were lies. Trump was giving polling data to Russia. Trump was
getting information from Russia that they stole from US citizens via a cyber
attack. There was a meeting in Trump Tower with the Russians - which Trump also
lied about.Since then, Trump has admitted to working with Russia.
Now he says he would do it again.
@jjjdsd:It violates federal law for a political candidate to
"accept anything of value" (paid for or not) from the citizen of a
foreign country, and this applies to all candidates, Democrat, Republican or
Independent. I hope you weren't assuming that I thought this law applied
only to President Trump. I'm a lot more concerned about the rule of law
than about any individual candidate or official.
Bringing up Hillary Clinton at this point is basically a way of saying that you
are okay with Trump colluding with foreign governments to win the election.
Well thank you shamrock for the segue. Is it against the law for a candidate to
pay a foreign party for opposition research for the purpose of changing the
course of an election? Please tell me no. Then I can tell Trump
all he has to do to make getting the foreign information legal is actually pay
cash for it.If you say yes, then you condemn the grand duchesse of
Arkansas and the DNC of criminally colluding with Russians for the purpose of
influencing an election.Pick your logic choice.
Russia, if you're listening . . .
"journalist Nicholas Ballasy asked Scarlett about his former employee,
Steele, and the dossier that helped launched the “collusion” theory
that Trump colluded with the Russian government to steal the 2016 election from
Hillary Clinton. Ballasy asked Scarlett, in a recording released just last week,
what the former MI6 chief thought of the dossier and if he believed what was
written in it.“Well, no,” Scarlett said, “I looked
at it and I thought these are commercial intelligence reports; I don't know
about the sources -- they might be right, they might be wrong and they'll
probably be overrated and they've been overrated.”Ballasy
then asked if Scarlett thought the dossier could ever be verified, to which
Steele’s former boss responded: “No.”"Realize
people the supposed sources of the Steele dossier were Russian oligarchs with
major ties to Putin.
Please show where any of the Steele dossier or any part of the dossier has been
verified. Steele in an English court testified it was unverifiable. Comey in
the white house told the president it was salacious and unverified. This is
after he filed the first FISA warrant. Brue Ohr met with numerous parties
that also included Weissmann was in the meeting and said it was unsubstantiated.
So please tell the source of information verifying it. Rachael Maddow nor any
others at CNN have verified it so what part other than the title Steele dossier
is verified. And that great mark of character Steele, was fired by the FBI for
leaking to the press.
@jsf writes: "Information is not illegal to obtain."That's not true. It's a violation of federal law for a candidate to
accept anything of value (including opposition research) from a citizen of a
foreign country. That's why even the Republicans are telling Trump that
what he said is dead wrong.
Where is Donald Trump taking his faithful followers when he make statement that
it is OK to violate U.S. law and engage in political activity with a foreign
government like Russia. No longer is this a "witch hunt" and "fake
news". It has become "legal" in Trump's definition that
anything he wants to do is OK. Seeking negative information and actively
accepting foreign involvement in our elections is treasonous. Is Trump
encouraging his faithful to follow his lead and commit treason?Working with a hostile foreign government like Russia to help in an election,
now clearly out in the open, is not in the interests of the American people. It
is in the interests of Russia and Trump. Perhaps it is a continuation of what
has always been, but Trump now is saying it's OK for him to violate the
laws since there is no one to prevent him of doing whatever he wants. He has the
Senate and Mitch McConnell protecting him from an impeachment conviction. He has
AG William Barr protecting him from further investigation and criminal
prosecution. And he has the Russians and other despotic foreign players working
to help him get re-elected.
casual observer - Salt Lake City, UTJune 13, 2019 2:59 p.m."Hillary Clinton's campaign accepted (as in paid for) help from a
foreign national, Christopher Steele, for his fabricated dossier. ""foreign national" - a private citizen, not a foreign government,
involved in producing information for an anti-Trump Republican group. Later, the
Clinton campaign was brought in and the information (dossier) was provided to
the FBI by a Republican senator."fabricated dossier" - raw
intelligence gathered from various sources and compiled into a report identified
as the "Steele dossier". None of this was made up although there are
some more salacious parts that have not been confirmed. But much of the Steele
dossier has been shown to be accurate. "Fabricated" implies "made up
and false" which the dossier is not.What does this have to do
with Donald Trump saying it's OK for him to seek out and obtain negative
information on a political opponent from a foreign government? Russia was behind
stealing emails, attacking our voting infrastructure, and working with the Trump
administration in boosting support for Trump and efforts to alienate Hillary
Clinton support.Read the Mueller Report.
Old man& anti trumpies"Hillary did not violate the
law"She destroyed her emails servers and whiped the hard drives
with bleach bit, and destroyed several media devices to hide the fact she had a
unauthorised email server in a bathroom closet of her home. She also
testified before congress that "I did not have classified emails on my
personal email server sent or recieved", and what did Comey say about that
publically and to congress, that she had a persnal email server and had well
over 100 classified emails on it, that is purjury.She violated the
espionage act, and obstructed justice by trying to hide it by destroying
evidence.But she got away with it because a corrupt FBI director
refused to recommend prosecution.Oh but wait, two Russian
olygarch's were more than willing to provide unverified info to Christopher
steele and put it in a nice lil' dossier and submitted it to the state
dept, paid for by hillary.Getting the info from foreign sources is
one thing, but paying for it and using it to start a $30 mill investigation
based on fake info is a totally different level of corruption not seen since
Nixon.Sorry anti trumpies your arguments are very hypocritical.
Look at it as a gift, Democrats. A gift with an expiration date of the moment
one of his aides explains to him what he just said.
Hey Scrappy Do -Re: "which makes him no different than Hillary
Clinton"Are you kidding? The lying, cheating, thieving Donald
Trump has very little in common with Hillary Clinton.Hillary did not
violate the law. If you recall, Republicans spent over $100 MILLION dollars
investigating Hillary Clinton, which had the duel effect of clearing Mrs Clinton
of all criminality while making her Republican persecutors in congress look like
liars and bullies.Here is an interesting article: "GOP’s
fear and loathing of Hillary Clinton cost you $100 million"Our
own CIA used Christopher Steele's expertise and his services many times to
research the Russians. Steele is no joke. He was the top authority on Russian
tactics when he served with MI6, and his subsequent career as a civilian
contractor added to his credibility.Everything Hillary Clinton and
Obama did was above board. Face it. It is not Hillary Clinton and the Democrats
who habitually attempt to subvert our laws.
Hillary Clinton's campaign accepted (as in paid for) help from a foreign
national, Christopher Steele, for his fabricated dossier. Most candidates would
love to have negative material about their opponents regardless of the source.
Trump's problem is not what he said, but that he said it at all.
which makes him no different than Hillary Clintonpolitics is dirty..
it is pretty simple
n8ive american - Shelley, IdahoJune 13, 2019 11:45 a.m."Steele dossier. Dirt on Trump from a foreign country. "Not only do you not know how the Steele dossier came about and was done, you
forget who gave it to the FBI in the first place. It didn't come from
Democrats, although they had funded it after an anti-Trump Republican group
initiated it's creation. It was given to John McCain. He asked Lindsey
Graham to provide it to the FBI.The FBI looked at it, but the
dossier was not what started the investigation into Russian activities. You need
to stop believing what you see on Fox News with the partisan talking heads and
maybe listen to the news on that network. Opinion is not news? Sean Hannity,
Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingram are not journalists. They are partisan shills
selling the Fox agenda and appear to be a major source of information for Donald
Trump.You should acquaint yourself with the Mueller Report and read
what they had to say about the Russian troll factory in Leningrad, Internet
Research Agency, and the role the GRU had in stealing private property here in
the United States? Then you can stop mentioning the Steele dossier as some type
of salacious propaganda.
n8ive american - Shelley, IdahoJune 13, 2019 11:45 a.m."Steele dossier . . . "Is Fox News the only source of
misinformation in Shelley, ID, that people prefer to watch rather than do their
homework and exert a little logic in the reading of a story?So, may
we assume that you are fine with what Donald Trump saying it's OK to get
foreign help anyway he can? I guess that the "witch hunt" is behind us
now that he has said that it's fine for the Russians to help him. It was
the same with Rudy Giuliani saying the " . . . it doesn't matter,
collusion isn't against the law." Now conspiracy in an election,
according to Trump, is not illegal as long as he is the beneficiary.There is a reason we don't want foreign interference and foreign money in
our elections. They are our elections. Since Trump has now said it's OK for
Russian to help him, what to those who still consider the law to be important,
yet voted for Trump in 2016 because of his promises, do?That is a
question you and your fellow travelers on the Trump Road need to ask yourselves.
Is stealing from the DNC and DNCC OK if it benefits Trump? Is the activity of
the Russian troll farm with the IRA in Leningrad OK?
According to Donald Trump it's OK to get information on one's
political opponent from any foreign source. Doesn't matter how they get it
or how true it is. As long as it advantages him, it's fine. This is
consistant with the covert activities by the Trump campaign in 2016. However,
now as 2020 is coming, we can surmise that Trump is basically opening the door
and inviting the Russians, North Koreans, Chinese, Saudis and anyone else
wishing to gain leverage greater incentive to jump in and help him.The Russians are already involved in trying to penetrate our electoral system.
Instead of just stealing emails and releasing them at adventageous moments
through WikiLeaks, they are moving to gain access to systems that identify
voters and contain actual voting results. Such access allowes the Russians (or
anyone else trying to interfere) to actually change voting records to
disenfrancise voters and/or change actual votes. There's no need to change
people's minds when they can change votes.Consistant with Trump
failure to initiate measures to protect of voting system, he now comes out and
says its OK to have these bad players interfere in our election as long as it
helps him win.
Here we go. Now Donald Trump is operating in the open telling everyone that he
wants whatever help and from whatever source he can get it. No longer will there
be a "witch hunt" and "fake news". It will be all out there
because Trump says it's OK just as the thought it OK in 2016. It
doesn't matter the form of the "information". He may call it
"oppo", but it could be stolen emails, a misinformation campaign,
outright lies, deceitful trolls. It doesn't matter for a man who will do
anything to get his way.Now we all know that when Trump announced
"Russia, if you've got the 30,000 emails . . . ", he was not joking
as he later said. He was requesting WikiLeaks to release the stolen information
that he knew was coming from Russia. The Mueller Report stated that
people in the Trump campaign were too stupid to know what they were doing was
against the law, but we can say with certainty there was a covert attempt to
conspire with Russians and others to interfere with our presidential
election.It's very likely that Trumpies are fine with this.
They are fine with everything else Trump says and does. They don't need to
dismiss the idea of "conspiracy" anymore. Trump said it was OK.
@LOU Montana - "So, when embarrassing photos and videos of Trump arrive from
Russia are we to ignore it?"What would be amusing is some badly
doctored photos of Trump's head with a body builder's physique
appear.*That* would put be a predicament, for DJT."Well, they almost got it right. My arms are actually more muscular and
my abs... Melania can tell you, they're unbelievable... but... well, you
know, maybe that photo is right. Now the people know how healthy I am! I want
this photo on the tail of Air Force One - immediately!"
For those T. supporters who continue to say what about the Steele dossier?What was the dossier? It was a legally funded research project started by the
Republicans for dirt on Trump. Once they stopped paying, the Clinton campaign
funded it. Nothing wrong or illegal about contracting somebody for dirt on your
opponent. It's done all the time in almost every campaign. Now, because
the dossier had some very damaging, corrupt and criminal activity in it, a
Republican passed it to the FBI. The FBI did not base the start of their
investigation into the Trump campaign because of the dossier, that had already
been started due to a loud mouth employee on the Trump campaign boasting about
connections and sources in Russia willing to help them out. In short, if
Trumpers would read the Mueller report they'd find how corrupt and criminal
our FBI found Trump and several people in his campaign.
These admissions by Trump are beyond "unpatriotic." They reveal his
complete lack of morality - he only cares about what is good for himself. However, it won't change any Trump supporter's minds. Some good might come out of it, Pelosi is creating a bill that would
make this kind of conduct flat-out illegal. It is about time. For generations,
we relied on the President having a sense of decency and duty. We relied on
"norms" precedent, and if nothing else, "appearances" that would
hurt politically. Trump has shown us that we need more. It is time
for an entire collection of "Trump laws." Laws banning nepotism in the
executive branch. Laws banning public funds going to private businesses (golf
resorts) owned and benefiting the President or any other government official.
Laws requiring transparency, such as tax returns. Laws requiring Presidents and
other elected officials to divest assets, enter blind trusts, and reveal their
finances. Also, Fusion GPS is not a foreign government. The
comparison is desperate and silly. The Republicans first hired Fusion - remember
that? The FBI started its investigation because of Popadopolis, not Steele.
@ jsf “Information is not illegal to obtain.”Russia hacked into the DNC’s server. Not only did they obtain all of
their emails but also voter information. That’s illegal. “Pandering false information before the FISA court is a crime.”That’s not what happened at all. Turn off Hannity. “Currently there is no indicted crime against Trump.”Because DOJ rules prevent Mueller from doing that. Barr won’t indict
trump, he’s trump’s fixer. “Just a lot of hype,
slander and libel.”That’s not what the Mueller report
indicates.“But we have Kamala promising if elected she will
prosecute Trump. Plus a bunch of other 2020 candidates saying the same
thing.”The Mueller report shows that trump obstructs justice.
Why shouldn’t the law apply to him?“Leading Democrat for
2020, if elected we will cure cancer.”The cancer that’s
growing on the executive? Absolutely! I have no doubt in my mind that none of
the leading Democratic candidates would be as corrupt as your boy Donald.
FOX hero Sean Hannity, says this is just a "clever trap" for the
Democrats."In many ways that was a genius setup because the
media mob will fall right into his trap, breathlessly spewing fake, phony
outrage over a nonstory for days," Hannity said.And then there
is RESPECTED conservative George Will who says trump has done more damage than
Nixon. Why? Because, Will says, Nixon's criminal actions were
hidden while trump's are brazenly out in the open and we are in danger that
that kind of sewage will become normalized. Google Will's
comments and listen to them. He's absolutely correct.It's
long past time to Make America Sane Again
I was wondering where the dnews buried this story! Everywhere else it’s
front page news. But here, it’s buried! Gee, I wonder why? Would they have
buried it if Clinton or Obama had said the same thing?@cjbStealing is wrong no matter how much you think you benefit from it
politically. @ say no Maybe your ilk should concentrate
on better ideas that are popular among Americans rather than cheating?@ repubs everywhere justifying this behaviorYou recognize that
there’s an election coming up in 2020, right? So if Mexico helps Elizabeth
Warren become president by hacking the RNC’s server and releasing
information, you’ll be totally fine with that, right? And you’ll be
totally fine with President Warren doing Mexico favors because they helped her
to win, right?What’s good for the goose is good for the
"C'mon Democrats, everybody does it!"I don't know
about you, but my Mommy told me that just because "everybody" was doing
it that was not a reason for me to do it.But my mother expected her
kids to grow up and be honest.
Information is not illegal to obtain. Pandering false information before the
FISA court is a crime. How worried should we be. Currently there
is no indicted crime against Trump. Just a lot of hype, slander and libel. But
we have Kamala promising if elected she will prosecute Trump. Plus a bunch of
other 2020 candidates saying the same thing. So goes the
constitution under democrat liberals. Leading Democrat for 2020, if
elected we will cure cancer.
Steele dossier. Dirt on Trump from a foreign country. Remind me again who had
it? But it's ok for Democrats to do this, right?
UtahBlueDevil,Blago went to jail, but what were the repercussions for
Jarrett? None. No charges of obstruction. No rebuff for her failure to report.
No outcry that Obama knew more than he's telling. No cloud of suspicion
about Chicago politics in the Obama White House.Obama's lawyer
did a one week "investigation," and everyone took it at face value.That is my whole point here. Trump takes the bait, and the media outlets
go wild.My comment was not about Blago. To your point, though, how
many Russian hackers are in jail? ...or even in court?
The interviewer should have asked "Would you be upset if foreign nations
provided information to your opponents AGAINST you?" It is all fine and
dandy as long as Russia is supporting him, but they aren't the only
player.Now that Trump declared foreign involvement is OK, we should
see China, Mexico, England, France, Germany.... all coming forth with
information about Trump. He can't declare "executive privilege"
against foreign governments.I miss the old Republicans that
protected America from all enemies foreign and domestic.
When I read this headline, my first reaction is to shake my head that Trump is
needlessly triggering the democrats and the media (but I repeat myself there).
But the more I think about it, the more I realize this is deliberate. Trump
knows this discussion leads to the democrats not only wanting to hear dirt on
him, but actually paying Steele to fabricate dirt on him. This discussion also
reminds Americans that the media were co-conspirators in this fraud. Trump also
knows there is audio circulating of Russian comedians trolling Adam Schiff as he
enthusiastically pursues the chance to get “dirt” on Trump. This bait. He wants the democrats/media to go on record and condemn the
idea of seeking or accepting dirt on an opponent from a foreign power.
Meanwhile, he has declassified documents showing the Obama administration and
the Clinton campaigns were guilty of much worse. He knows the OIG and the DOJ
are pursuing this. It will be harder for the democrats/media to come back and
say: “Well this was no big deal. It’s just the ugly side of
Say No..... Rod Blagojevich is a resident where now? I think something did
happen...Old Man.... Truth is some very prominent Republicans have
rebuffed the President for these comments. Lets have an honest discussion.
What the President said is very unPatriotic, what he is asking for is what
Assange is being extradited to America for. It's what started this whole
investigation and Mueller Report thing. And Republicans are rebuffing the
President for his arms deals that circumvented constitutional process -
declaring yet another emergency.And then today this is released
" A U.S. government watchdog agency on Thursday recommended Kellyanne
Conway, a senior adviser to President Donald Trump, be fired for repeatedly
violating U.S. law with political comments while serving in the White
House."Where there is smoke, there is probably a fire. Or at
least the beginnings of one. I'm predicting there is a fire. And slowly
Republicans are smelling the smoke too. Slowly.
This is the problem with fringe conservatives. They have shouted so long that
the government is conspiring against us that people buy in to trumps showmanship
of how he is their savior. I hope democrats or an independent
don’t blow this easy opportunity to beat trump but I am not holding my
Ralph - Salt Lake City, UTJune 13, 2019 10:08 a.m.@Say No to
BO : "Should I call the FBI? Trump answered candidly, and his enemies blew
up."So because he actually told the truth about his willingness
to betray America, you think that's a good thing? He was honest
for once! Woohoo!---------How's that "betraying
America"?So glad we have someone fighting for this country while
the Liberials fight to give it away.
And please ATDS were did the Steele Dossier come from? Why was Simson, paid by
the DNC and Hillary campaign, meet with Russians and Ukrainians to get dirt
about Trump. Thou whited walls.
@Say No to BO : "Should I call the FBI? Trump answered candidly, and his
enemies blew up."So because he actually told the truth about his
willingness to betray America, you think that's a good thing? He was honest for once! Woohoo!
Should I call the FBI? Trump answered candidly, and his enemies blew up.Valerie Jarrett, an unratified Obama adviser for 8 years, had a
conversation with Rod Blagojevich about a quid pro quo deal to sell the Illinois
senate seat. That conversation was documented by Obama Counsel Gregg Craig.Nobody bothered to ask out loud, "Why didn't she report it to
the Feds?"I guess the press wasn't as curious as they are
now. Trump speaks hypothetically, and they go nuts. Go figure.
Trump thrives on mudslinging, he is the master of filthy politics.So, when embarrassing photos and videos of Trump arrive from Russia are we to
Wait for it...he'll say it was fake news today...that he never said that...his sycophants will echo his alternative
story.Another day in Trumps America.
Remember O.J.'s book, "If I Did It"? This is Trump being "I
would do that" about collusion.
Trump's comment does not surprise or disappoint me. But what I and the
majority of Americans find troubling is that millions of people and most of the
GOP still defends and supports this man. It's obvious he is unfit to hold
public office. Wake up people! And would the GOP please encourage other
people to run for the party's nomination?
Anyone else and the nation would be shocked and disgusted. But, it's Trump,
so it's what we've come to expect. The bar has been lowered, so far
down, by Trump and the GOP.
Another instance of the Republican party and "conservatives" working to
normalizing the abberant.
cjb wrote 7:36 AM"If a candidate for president demonstrated they
are sloppy with the nation's top secrets, and put them where the enemies of
the United States could easily access them, on a server in their bathroom for
example, wouldn't we as voters want to know about that, even if it was
foreigners (WikiLeaks) that brought it to light?"So someone
breaks into your house and steals all your furniture. You see your furniture is
being sold at a yard sale just down the street. You call the police and they
tell you they cannot do anything. "It's free market capitalism,"
they tell you. Do you just nod your head?
Another example of the love foreign powers have for Glorious Leader. They want
a Greater America and know Glorious Leader can deliver.
I know right? Remember when Obama got all that political dirt on
John McCain from Iranian hackers and then the GOP was totally fine with it? C'mon Democrats, everybody does it!
I love the excuse being touted by Hannity and shrill, that Trump was tricked
into answering a question, like how dare a news person ask a question, it's
a trick?Like the perjury trap, the pundits have to make up clever
ways to say that the president is to dishonest to speak for himself and
Americans need a translator cause they can't take him at his word.cjb, it speaks volumes that you prefer to trust foreign agents who stole or
created information over the Mueller report compiled by our top agents. Putin
sure got his monies worth, defending criminal activity has become normal for the
So Trump shows his patriotism by hugging the flag, forcing a speech from
"your favorite president" at the Lincoln Memorial on the 4th of July,
and berating NFL players who refuse to stand during the National Anthem.
However, he is more than willing to accept information from foreign governments,
not inform the FBI of their outreach, and use such information if it would
assure his reelection...unfathomable, yet, sadly, not surprising.
Trump just admitted he can be your puppet, he can be anyone's puppet if the
price is right.The reality is if I wanted to sit down with Trump and
discuss my thoughts on health care or infrastructure, I could never get a
meeting with Trump.However, if I were some bad actor for some
anti-democratic country, Trump would be eager to sit down with me to hear a
lurid story about Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren with altered documents,
Trump would take that meeting.At some point, it's fair to ask
when Trump will stop engaging with the world's most lawless criminal
If a candidate for president demonstrated they are sloppy with the nation's
top secrets, and put them where the enemies of the United States could easily
access them, on a server in their bathroom for example, wouldn't we as
voters want to know about that, even if it was foreigners (WikiLeaks) that
brought it to light?Trump is right.
And Republicans have been completely silent on this.Can you imagine
the uproar if Hillary had said something this stupid?Justin Amash is
the ONLY Republican with enough courage to do what must be done.That
is absolutely shameful.
Like 2016, Republicans/Trump recognize they need all the help they can get if
they want a chance at winning in 2020.Why not skip the GOP primary
& convention and just ask America's adversaries who they want as their
nominee this time?
Unfit, there is no defense.