This is a complete waste of time. There are so many more pressing issues then
the platform you use for free to talk to people who think the same you you do.
Take the argument that they are politically bias. The reality is the only bias
you really see is the bias created by the friends you add and associate with.
I don't see the extremes in Facebook because those that I associate with
that are cronic political rhetoric spews, I block. I have control over what I
see. These are "free" platforms that you don't need to use if you
don't want to. "Free" in the sense these platforms sell your
information.... but still.What we do need far more governance in
Pharma and Big Medical. The level of corruption, back door deals, and
"rebates" to doctors is way out of control. No one knows the real cost
of anything medical. For a while I self insured my family.... and when the
doctors office found out they dropped my bill by 50%. Makes no sense. We
need a truth in cost of medical services bill that keeps this variable pricing
out of the systems. No one "needs" facebook nor google. We all need
medical treatment and there is far more issues with how that business is run.
I'd like to see Senator Lee go after Walmart, as well as the three
companies named in the article.Walmart has the power--as the largest
retailer in the U.S., and the largest customer of its suppliers--to put any of
its suppliers out of business at anytime, and it has done just that on many
occasions. Walmart probably gets better prices for the goods it buys from its
suppliers than does the U.S. government. Almost all U.S. suppliers to Walmart
usually provide products very close to cost, or sometimes below cost.My wife works for a company that supplies products to Walmart. Walmart
requires her company to hire a clerical employee that works full-time on
Walmart's account only. Walmart refuses to pay any invoices that are older
than something like 90 days. And, at the end of the year, or even a year or two
later, if Walmart looks at its books and decides that my wife's company
made too much profit on its Walmart account, Walmart demands a rebate--sometimes
in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.Anti-trust laws were
originally passed in the 1920's to reign in a large retailer. Now it looks
like history has repeated itself, but no one has had the courage to go after
Very partial“How about working on Utah companies first? The
fraudsters, scammers and robocall crooks. Maybe, after cleaning up their own
backyard, then they can worry about other states.”They’re going after monopolies that are exercising world wide control of
the internet and social media.
@RiDal"And it cannot be ignored that none of this would have become an
issue if they had simply adhered to constitutional free speech
guidelines""Constitutional free speech" does not apply
to private corporations. Not even remotely.You have zero
'right' to use social media. You merely have a 'privilege'
to use them. You have even less 'right' to be paid by social
media.Regarding the anti-trust whining, there might be a point if
the consumer had no alternatives to youtube, twitter, google, facebook, etc.
But that's not remotely the case. There are literally dozens of
alternatives out there.
The concept of intellectual property (copyrights and patents) is relevant
here.Get rid of intellectual property law -- which is a form of
corporate welfare -- and you can get rid of antitrust law as well."We are up against a world where innovation creates natural monopolies,
aided and abetted by patents and copyrights."-John Bennett,
contributor at Against Monopoly
This whole antitrust/monopoly thing is ridiculous. Elizabeth Warren wants to
split Google into 2 companies, a search engine and an advertising company. How
does she think Google makes money? Google gives us the search engine for FREE.
Would they do that, plus innovate new ideas if the revenue side of their
business is taken away? And no government regulator is going to improve
Google’s searches, or is qualified to even try.Does anyone
want an iPhone if it doesn't come with & sell apps? (BTW, Samsung sells
more phones & apps than Apple.)How many platforms do you want to
visit to buy products like Amazon carries (few are actually owned by Amazon)?
Yes, they bought a grocery chain. Monopoly right? Not even close, but that
purchase has spurred the largest grocery chain (Kroger) to spend millions on
innovation.These tech giants are constantly spending money
innovating. Seen any innovation lately from yesteryear's giant, GE?The ONLY issues government should look at with these companies are
violation of privacy and free speech - period.
All of these companies have been penetrated by the Chinese Communists. They are
not representative of America any more.
@Shaun - Sandy, UT"It is just your point of view that you think social
platforms are bias against conservatives. That doesn’t justify breaking
these companies up."Consider this:The whole pretext for
the "Russian collusion" investigation was that "foreign
entities" were "influencing our opinions on Social media."Now all those companies accept foreign accounts. They are all "foreign
actors" and they freely express opinions that "influence our
elections". Yet American conservatives are not allowed to respond with
the full protections of Constitutional Free Speech. By selectively blocking
some forms of free speech, Youtube, Instagram, and Twitter are effectively
"Colluding with foreign entities to influence our elections." Why no concern? Do we even know if the censors at twitter are US citizens ?
Twitter just hired a *British* firm to help block "fake news". How do
we know they are not biased ? They are definitely "foreign". Do we only worry about these things after a Republican wins an election ?
@jskains"So Facebook is a platform that allows everyone to uniformly
connect. If no one creates a compelling argument to leave the platform, we force
people to leave? I don’t get the mindset here..."Granted
that these are private companies; but they have grown large enough to be
"virtual monopolies". In the case of Youtube and Instagram there is
also the issue that there was an implied contract in monetizing the
contributors. Some of these contributors have invested a lot of their own money
in setup for creating content; then the platforms very arbitrarily ban them or
at least deprive them of the monetization incentives. And it cannot
be ignored that none of this would have become an issue if they had simply
adhered to constitutional free speech guidelines and established legal
precedents. It has been proven that they do not merely censor "hate
speech" but use that merely a a pretext to ban anything they simply
don't like, with no objective standard.
To "radicalmoderate" actually according to the studies that were done on
the Russian bots they found that it wasn't that the conservatives believed
everything. They found that conservatives were just sharing positive information
about Trump because the bots were sharing more positive things than the MSM
was.The only intervention that needs to take place is for Facebook
and YouTube to fully reinstate the accounts of people that have been demonetized
despite complying with all of their rules.
@ute alumni It is just your point of view that you think social
platforms are bias against conservatives. That doesn’t justify breaking
these companies up.
The last few years, Alex Jones has clearly been more accurate than the
"trusted" media. There is no disputing that fact.So, when
is Twitter going to suspend CNN, MSNBC, and Carlos Slim controlled New York
I find it incredibly disturbing that an article about privacy concerns turned
into a cheering section for conservative revenge against the "libs."
The last thing we want is the government dictating the messages we send to each
other. The reason that the Russians have found it so easy to poison the well,
has more to do with "conservative" idiots re-posting their garbage than
liberal bias. While I am sure liberals have done it as well, those
of you cheering this government intervention into the public discourse should
use caution here. The best way to avoid being manipulated is to discern the
truth. Check facts before you share something that sounds too good to be true
from your echo chamber and stop being a tool for those seeking to divide us with
We have laws on the books regarding platforms vs publishers, and abusing
monopolies. The giants have violated both of them in censoring
conservatives.We also have court decisions on public squares that
the giants have been ignoring. Need to enforce those as well.They
have been breaking the law, and they need to be held accountable.
The social media monopolists have been abusing their power, and need to be
broken up. If there are multiple facebooks, multiple youtubes, and
multiple Twitters, they will be forced to open up the public square - which is
their legal responsibility.
So Facebook is a platform that allows everyone to uniformly connect. If no one
creates a compelling argument to leave the platform, we force people to leave? I
don’t get the mindset here...
Impartial,The Attorney General’s office is investigating both
fraud and anti-competitive conduct. The investigations are not mutually
Good for Senator Lee! For so long, anti-trust was a tool of the liberal's,
socialist, and regulator's, who wanted to punish capitalist's for
their wealth and success! They wanted to destroy successful companie's, no
matter how many jobs were lost.Now these same law's are used to
restore righteous Balance to our news media. By going after Twitter, Lee is
challenging the PC-patrol, and making it clear how great our Conservative
Leaders are. Under the guidance of our Leader Donald Trump, Lee is going to own
How about working on Utah companies first? The fraudsters, scammers and robocall
crooks. Maybe, after cleaning up their own backyard, then they can worry about