BYU in the running for one of the nation's top linemen

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  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 18, 2019 4:09 p.m.

    TherealND:
    "Me and your dawgs go way back. Ole Miss 1984 alumnus. I remember seeing Herschel whoop up my Rebels at Vaught Hemingway."

    Ah man, you were there? Yeah that's still a highlight reel in Dawglore. Why didn't you tell me you were a Rebel too? Always have respect for SEC brothers (well except the lizards...couldn't stomach that lol). HW was my idle back then (and Steve Young). When I was 10 I got to see them both at Sanford Stadium, and neither one had a great game (I think SY had like 5 interceptions in that game). Now I usually make it to at least one every year (went to Tenn and Auburn last year).

    You've probably got a lot of good ND stories as well.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    June 18, 2019 2:24 p.m.

    @TroyTown - Anaheim, CA

    "When was the last time ND won a Consensus National Championship?"
    --------------------------
    Are you sure you want to ask that question?

    A better question is HOW MANY Consensus Natty's do they have? My guess is more than 1.

    ND is one of the most storied programs in all of college football. BYU doesn't compare in basically any category (most teams don't so don't be offended).

    ND is tied at #2 for FBS National Championships with 11 (eleven)
    ND is #4 in all time win %
    ND is #5 in all time total wins with 897 (BYU has 575 for example)
    ND is #1 in Consensus All-Americans with 102 (BYU 13)
    ND is #1 in Heisman Winners with 7
    ND is #2 in NFL Draft Picks with 505 (BYU 143)
    ND is #3 in 1st round Draft Picks with 69 (BYU 11)
    ND is #4 all time in # of weeks in the AP top 25 with 799 (BYU 244)
    ND is #4 in weeks at #1 in the AP with 98 (BYU 4)

    You need to get out of the bubble a little more.

  • CountryCoug Parker, CO
    June 18, 2019 6:14 a.m.

    I lived in Salt Lake City, Utah many years ago after graduating from college (not BYU or Utah), but was blown away with the literal hate going back and forth between fan bases. On my mission, I had one U of U student, who was in my mission, bitterly accuse me of being a BYU type of person. Not born or raised in Utah. Never went to BYU, but I sort of adopted BYU as my team after that nice compliment. And that is coming from a guy (me) whose two parents graduated from U of U.

  • Lone*Star Austin, TX
    June 17, 2019 6:43 p.m.

    real fake ND

    “Remember, Notre Dame was coming off a 4-8 season and faced with an academic scandal that would require them to vacate two seasons of wins.”

    Just a whiny excuse.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 17, 2019 4:04 p.m.

    "Money does talk, and what it said in this case was that Dawg fans are more loyal than Domers...hence your fanbase's embarrassment at allowing us to take over."

    Maybe, or just crazy. Remember, Notre Dame was coming off a 4-8 season and faced with an academic scandal that would require them to vacate two seasons of wins. So, $2400 for one ticket was a gift.

  • blue n gold Redmond, WA
    June 17, 2019 4:00 p.m.

    jonny in the city

    "Time for trolls to leave mom's basement."

    Please do.

    You'll quickly discover that the real world doesn't revolve around U.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 17, 2019 3:54 p.m.

    @Cougsndawgs - West Point , UT

    I wish I could make it to Georgia in September. Me and your dawgs go way back. Ole Miss 1984 alumnus. I remember seeing Herschel whoop up my Rebels at Vaught Hemingway.

    4th and 1 at midfield. Georgia decides to go for it. Ole Miss in their goal line defense. Everyone knows who is getting the ball. Herschel leap's to just clear the pile and is hit midair at about his knees. That flips his heels over head, and he lands feet first on the other side of the pile up and runs for a touchdown.

    What had been a competitive game to that point turned into a rout.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 17, 2019 3:25 p.m.

    ND:
    "My neighbor sold his $300 ticket for 8 times that amount. That doesn't happen in Athens. So his $2100 season ticket cost was more than covered by you Dogs."

    Money does talk, and what it said in this case was that Dawg fans are more loyal than Domers...hence your fanbase's embarrassment at allowing us to take over.

    Anyway, I wasn't trying to make this a serious thing, just some friendly ribbing. I hope you can make it to Athens, you'll love the atmosphere. Cheers!

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 17, 2019 2:50 p.m.

    "No it doesn't...35K opposing fans take over ND Stadium all the time? Then why were there so many open letters from alum and season ticket holders shaming ND faithful for selling out...you're saying THAT happens all the time (it was the most expensive avg ticket in all of CFB in 2017- by over 500 bucks...and ND fans sold out)."

    My neighbor sold his $300 ticket for 8 times that amount. That doesn't happen in Athens. So his $2100 season ticket cost was more than covered by you Dogs. The remaining 6 games were on you. It's called capitalism. Just ask Nebraska.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 17, 2019 12:43 p.m.

    "ARWU, QS, and Times Higher university rankings
    Nobody outside of the world of academia cares about those rankings.
    Most college-bound US kids put much more stock in the USN&WR rankings."

    Time for trolls to leave mom's basement.

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    June 17, 2019 12:24 p.m.

    @ - Utah-Hawaii Alum - CA, 00 - June 13, 2019 1:44 p.m. - "@ Elkhorn, I suggest you Google for hours and then get back to me after you finally discover the truth about everything LDS. …… BYu doesn't sell in the 21st century and no possible future......and they earned it!"

    -------

    My comments (in light of the fact that you turned this discussion from one about a possible BYU offensive lineman into attacks on the LDS church):

    1 - Do you really believe that Google is the source of "all" truth? I mean, seriously?

    2 - A rebuttal to your claim that BYU and the LDS church has, and I quote, "no possible future" in the 21st century, here are the membership numbers of the LDS church in the 21st century:

    2000 - 11,068,861
    2001 - 11,394,522
    2002 - 11,721,548
    2003 - 11,985,254
    2004 - 12,275,822
    2005 - 12,560,869
    2006 - 12,868,606
    2007 - 13,193,999
    2008 - 13,508,509
    2009 - 13,824,854
    2010 - 14,131,467
    2011 - 14,441,346
    2012 - 14,782,473
    2013 - 15,082,028
    2014 - 15,372,337
    2015 - 15,634,199
    2016 - 15,882,417
    2017 - 16,118,169
    2018 - 16,313,735

    You will be immensely pleased to know I got these membership numbers from Google. :-)

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 17, 2019 12:22 p.m.

    Navel:
    "They couldn't have. Notre Dame sells out the exact same number of tickets, no matter WHO they play."

    The adults are talking...please don't interrupt when U don't have a clue what you're talking about. Yes, ND sells out every game, thanks for that ground-breaking insight. What we were discussing before you interrupted us with your adolescent opinion, was that in 2017 the ND faithful sold 35K seats to Dawg fans because we could afford them (we bought them up...from die hard ND season ticket holders and alum), and we indeed painted their stadium red, literally.

    Now run along and think of another nothing burger to satiate everyone's intellect lol.

    Bigger fail.

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    June 17, 2019 12:03 p.m.

    @ Utah-Hawaii Alum - CA, 00 - June 13, 2019 12:11 p.m. - "@ BYU-Dave, There have been MANY BYu professors that chose academic freedom that were fired, excommunicated, publicly harassed by the LDS community, etc......because they unveiled facts. Now, their employers, a church to a tiny few, act in a way that is not acceptable to 99,999% of all others on this planet. Fair enough, they own that school and existence. My question to U fine sir......."Should BYu and their owners ever expect to be considered in the world?" Well, they are facing ultimate ignorance by everyone!!!!!"

    My comments:

    1st - Please name the "many" BYU professors that were, and I quote, "fired, excommunicated, publicly harassed" for choosing "academic freedom". Give multiple, unbiased sources (hint: that means no Tribune articles) unequivocally proving, among other things, they were "publicly harassed".

    2nd: Rebuttal to your claim that the LDS church numbers only a "tiny few": as of the end of 2018 there were 16,313,735 members worldwide.

    3rd: Your claim that BYU and LDS church are facing, and I quote, "ultimate ignorance"....I totally agree. Would you like to end your ignorance?

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 17, 2019 11:56 a.m.

    TherealND:
    "Happens all the time. Fans get a once in a lifetime chance to visit the iconic stadium and they pay through the nose for game tickets."

    No it doesn't...35K opposing fans take over ND Stadium all the time? Then why were there so many open letters from alum and season ticket holders shaming ND faithful for selling out...you're saying THAT happens all the time (it was the most expensive avg ticket in all of CFB in 2017- by over 500 bucks...and ND fans sold out).

    Nah, no one including your own tribe (with all their open letters) is owning that. That was a neutral game for the Dawgs in ND Stadium...that's embarrassing. And I like ND, not trying to throw shade, just saying your "happens all the time" explanation doesn't hold water.

    See ya in The Classic City!

    Go Dawgs!!

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    June 17, 2019 11:42 a.m.

    Hmmmm.....yet another article about BYU and only BYU but yet it still draws tons of comments from Utah fans.

    Do you guys want to comment even more about how "irrelevant" BYU is?

    SMH....

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 17, 2019 10:15 a.m.

    DeeplyDelusional:

    "Gotta luv the jealous angst Andrew has already created on the hill."

    What are you talking about little bro? What jealousy? We've been outrecruiting you every year for well over a decade now. What could we possibly envy?

    It's YOUR fanbase who envies OUR program, coaches, athletes, and recruits.

    Typical hypocritical coug.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 17, 2019 10:10 a.m.

    CougsnTeamB:

    The indy-WACers did NOT paint Notre Dame red. You just made that up. How frantic and emotional of you.

    And for what it's worth, your Team B didn't do it either. They couldn't have. Notre Dame sells out the exact same number of tickets, no matter WHO they play. The only time UGa played in South Bend, that game drew 77,622 fans. Which was the EXACT same attendance as the Miami (OH) game.

    And for what it's worth, the last time Utah played in South Bend, that game drew 80,795 fans.

    Fail.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 16, 2019 9:07 p.m.

    "Maybe...but do you think you can paint Sanford Stadium blue like we painted ND red? Prolly not ;)"

    Happens all the time. Fans get a once in a lifetime chance to visit the iconic stadium and they pay through the nose for game tickets.

  • And so it begins... Sandy, UT
    June 16, 2019 8:31 p.m.

    @Rusty Filter - “How can you call youself a real ND fan if you have to Google when they last Won the NC?"

    @THEREALND - “I didn't use Google”

    Sure you didn’t...

    LOL 😂

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 16, 2019 8:19 p.m.

    TherealND:
    "Anytime Notre Dame comes to town to play any team it is always an "epic" event."

    Maybe...but do you think you can paint Sanford Stadium blue like we painted ND red? Prolly not ;)

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 16, 2019 7:45 p.m.

    "Rusty Filter - ,
    June 16, 2019 6:17 p.m.
    How can you call youself a real ND fan if you have to Google when they last Won the NC?"

    I didn't use Google. It's just a good source for providing answers to questions people have. Or, in this case, just ask me.

  • Rusty Filter ,
    June 16, 2019 6:17 p.m.

    How can you call youself a real ND fan if you have to Google when they last Won the NC?

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 16, 2019 1:48 p.m.

    "TroyTown - Anaheim, CA
    June 16, 2019 11:11 a.m.
    When was the last time ND won a Consensus National Championship?"

    1988. Google is your friend.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 16, 2019 11:25 a.m.

    "mussingaround - Palo Alto, CA
    June 15, 2019 7:29 p.m.
    theFAKEnd

    As already stated, choosing BYU is a non-issue because if an athlete is good enough, the NFL will find him, regardless of whether he chooses BYU or Notre Dame."

    My point, not all opportunities are equal and player development is an issue to be considered. Some coaching staffs have a history of developing NFL players.

    However, one good football reason for him to choose BYU is apparently they only have 3 offensive tackles on their roster according to 247sports. ND has 11. His chances of getting playing time are far better at BYU.

  • TroyTown Anaheim, CA
    June 16, 2019 11:11 a.m.

    When was the last time ND won a Consensus National Championship?

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 16, 2019 6:36 a.m.

    "Cougsndawgs - West Point , UT
    June 15, 2019 7:10 p.m.
    TherealND:
    "Notre Dame had two offensive lineman drafted in the top 10 in the 2018 NFL draft. If this kid has NFL aspirations, that's something he should consider."

    We look forward to the Golden Domers between the hedges Sept 21st. They will see first-hand the best O-line in America, bar none. It will be epic!"

    Anytime Notre Dame comes to town to play any team it is always an "epic" event.

    No doubt, the Georgia game is the toughest on their schedule.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    June 15, 2019 7:29 p.m.

    theFAKEnd

    As already stated, choosing BYU is a non-issue because if an athlete is good enough, the NFL will find him, regardless of whether he chooses BYU or Notre Dame.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 15, 2019 7:10 p.m.

    TherealND:
    "Notre Dame had two offensive lineman drafted in the top 10 in the 2018 NFL draft. If this kid has NFL aspirations, that's something he should consider."

    We look forward to the Golden Domers between the hedges Sept 21st. They will see first-hand the best O-line in America, bar none. It will be epic!

    Andrew needs to do what every good recruit should do...go with his heart and investigate and get a feel for what will be best for him. Michigan is a fine academic institution with a fine athletic tradition. BYU has a unique vibe and if one wants to be surrounded by similar thoughts and voices that is the place to be. Best wishes to the young man regardless what he chooses.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 15, 2019 5:52 p.m.

    @northern_lights

    It's not my "spin" that literally everyone of Gentry's opinions has put more lineman in the NFL than BYU.

  • northern_lights Layton, UT
    June 15, 2019 5:25 p.m.

    THEREALND

    “Because Gentry cares about going to a school that he can progress to the next level.”

    Then choosing BYU is a non-issue because if an athlete is good enough, the NFL will find him, regardless of whether he chooses BYU or Notre Dame.

    That’s an absolute fact, regardless of your self-serving spin.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 15, 2019 4:58 p.m.

    Cougar Claws - Lindon, UT
    June 15, 2019 8:37 a.m.
    I'll try to avoid looking at this through either blue or red goggles.

    BYU is generally in the RUNNING for ONE of the nation's top offensive or defensive lineman every year. Usually, BYU manages to land one of these guys every other season or so too.

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    Not OL, you land one every 5+ years or so. Your last 4 star OL signee was in 2014.

    It's probably because you do such a bad job of developing NFL players.

    NFL draft picks:

    * BYU: 5 in last 6 years
    * Utah: 5 had in 2019 draft alone

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 15, 2019 4:50 p.m.

    Uteology - East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 14, 2019 8:30 p.m.
    @DeepBlue - Anaheim, CA

    Gotta luv the jealous angst Andrew has already created on the hill.

    -----

    Let's be clear, ther is no "jealous angst" at Utah over BYU landing a 4 star OL.

    According to Rivals, over the last 2 years Utah has signed THREE. BYU last signed a 4 star OL in 2014.

    Clearly Utah is more than capable of finding a 4 star OL this season because we develop NFL OL.

    The "angst" is at BYU because if they lose this kid to MI thier class talent will be ranked in 100s again.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 15, 2019 9:43 a.m.

    ""The level of football. Who you're playing against and who you're getting coached by. Are you going to be able to progress to the next level," Gentry said. "

    "And we’re supposed to care because...?"

    Because Gentry cares about going to a school that he can progress to the next level.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 15, 2019 9:38 a.m.

    "TrollPolice - Salt Lake City, UT
    June 15, 2019 8:45 a.m.
    therealnd

    “Notre Dame had two offensive lineman drafted in the top 10 in the 2018 NFL draft”

    And we’re supposed to care because...?"

    Absolutely no! You shouldn't care if this top recruit chooses a University that has a history of actually putting linemen into the NFL.

  • TrollPolice Salt Lake City, UT
    June 15, 2019 8:45 a.m.

    therealnd

    “Notre Dame had two offensive lineman drafted in the top 10 in the 2018 NFL draft”

    And we’re supposed to care because...?

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    June 15, 2019 8:37 a.m.

    I'll try to avoid looking at this through either blue or red goggles.

    BYU is generally in the RUNNING for ONE of the nation's top offensive or defensive lineman every year. Usually, BYU manages to land one of these guys every other season or so too. I also remember BYU being in the running for Damien Mama out of Southern California. He was a guard and he was a total monster, also number 1 or 2 at his position and he was an LDS kid. BYU was in his top 3 with Alabama and USC before he ultimately decided on USC. He doesn't get talked about, obviously, because BYU didn't get him.

    Alabama, Notre Dame, USC, Michigan, and Ohio State are the top 5 programs in the country for a reason. Their rosters are full of these types of kids from top to bottom. Obviously, BYU getting one of these guys every other season might be good enough to make their starters competitive, but doesn't put them on par with these programs. Utah has probably improved their recruiting to get 1 or 2 of these guys every year.

    I hope BYU keeps getting these guys but for BYU to get to where BYU wants to be talent wise, they definitely need to increase the frequency of how often they land these type of players.

  • TrollPolice Salt Lake City, UT
    June 15, 2019 8:36 a.m.

    Edge: ARWU, QS, and Times Higher university rankings

    Nobody outside of the world of academia cares about those rankings.

    Most college-bound US kids put much more stock in the USN&WR rankings.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 15, 2019 4:40 a.m.

    Notre Dame had two offensive lineman drafted in the top 10 in the 2018 NFL draft. If this kid has NFL aspirations, that's something he should consider. But he better come ready to play or he will only play on the practice squad like the Hoge kid.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 14, 2019 9:30 p.m.

    “there's a REASON why USNWR isn't listed amongst the most influential and widely observed university rankings in the world.”

    Naval Vet:

    And that is why USN&WR started their own global rankings, which uses more quantifiable—and verifiable—metrics. To no one’s surprise (ok, maybe to coogs’ surprise) Utah graded out at #132, while BYU is at #601 (just ahead of USU). This is close to the results of the ARWU, QS, and Times rankings.

    But instead of acknowledging actual academic excellence, coog fans would rather confuse money and opinions with academics.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 14, 2019 8:30 p.m.

    @DeepBlue - Anaheim, CA

    Gotta luv the jealous angst Andrew has already created on the hill.

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    How so? This is a BYU kid, 20 years ago he would have been a guarantee recruit.

    You better beat out Michigan or your program with rapidly dropping talent, class rankings from 60s to 100s, is in deep trouble.

    We're just here for the entertainment.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 14, 2019 6:29 p.m.

    DeepBlue:

    "USN&WR measures the total college experience"

    By using arbitrary and subjective metrics? How can USNWR accurately measure "how happy" a school's students are? And how can campus aesthetics be accurately measured as well? Some folks LIKE rural, bucolic scenery, whereas other prefer urban locales. Some folks think the mountains behind the Y are "beautiful", whereas others prefer the backdrop afforded the Univ. of Utah or Colorado? Or the coastal backdrop of UCSB, Pepperdine, or the U.S. Naval Academy. Others couldn't care less one way or the other, and yet USNWR assigns a number to it.

    And of course USNWR just has to use the data the Y provides -- whether it's "accurate" or "inflated".

    So like I'd said...there's a REASON why USNWR isn't listed amongst the most influential and widely observed university rankings in the world.

    Edge: ARWU, QS, and Times Higher university rankings

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    June 14, 2019 6:15 p.m.

    “Andrew Gentry is rated one of the top offensive line recruits in the country and has BYU listed solidly in his top five. He is hoping to decide where he will play by the time July rolls around. The 6-foot-8, 310-pound lineman is the younger brother of current Cougar offensive lineman JT Gentry and is rated as a four-star prospect by the 24/7 Sports Network.”

    Gotta luv the jealous angst Andrew has already created on the hill.

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    June 14, 2019 5:51 p.m.

    Navelvet

    “Additionally, USNWR uses many metrics that are arbitrary, subjective, and/or are of “non-academic” ”

    USN&WR measures the total college experience, unlike other organizations who think that the amount of money spent on research is the only legitimate factor.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 14, 2019 5:12 p.m.

    "redfeather - Palo Alto, CA
    June 14, 2019 12:55 p.m.
    THEREALND

    “I will admit that I am not a Utah fan.”

    So you’re just a BYU hater without a team of your own."

    Do I have to be a Utah fan or a BYU hater to comment on a BYU article?

    Go Irish!

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    June 14, 2019 2:48 p.m.

    @ Jumpyman,

    You may be correct, but Gentry wants a spouse! Where is he gonna find one in the Big10? He has alleged "standards," so it has been reported......

  • Jumpyman Salt Lake City, UT
    June 14, 2019 1:12 p.m.

    How many of you know Andrew Gentry? How do you know what is important to him? I do know the kid and he is a great kid and extremely smart. He is also a giant and a really good basketball player. His dad played bball at BYU and USU. He has been recruited by just about every major college football team. He will go where it feels the best. I am guessing that he is headed to BIG10 country, but we will see. It is hard to turn down Jim Harbaugh when he is sitting in your living room. Saban, not so much.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 14, 2019 1:03 p.m.

    One Angry Indy-WACer (2 of 2):

    Additionally, USNWR uses many metrics that are arbitrary, subjective, and/or are of “non-academic” natures. Such metrics include things like price of tuition, campus culture (i.e. how “happy” students are), campus aesthetics, and exclusivity. But employers don’t care so much about those sorts of things.

    Besides, I’ve met your alumni. They’re in my ward. Not impressed. No wonder USNWR isn’t among the world’s most influential and widely observed university rankings.

    You might enjoy watching your team playing their traditional, easy, powderpuff, small-ball schedules, and vying for a spot in some tiny, bush-league, 6-figure payout bowl game…

    …but 4-star athletes?

    Not so much.

    #TruthBomb

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 14, 2019 1:04 p.m.

    One Angry Indy-WACer (1 of 2):

    "UU:...Ave. ACT: 23"

    According to whom? Did you just make that up (re: "lied"), or were you reporting inaccurate information that you'd "heard", but never really took the time to "verify" on your own (re: "uneducated"). Either way, what a poor reflection you are on ybU-P.

    Per "Prep Scholar", the average ACT for incoming freshmen at the Univ. of Utah is 25; not 23.

    How many football players down there in the bubble scored a 30 on their ACT? Any?

    Incoming freshmen GPAs and ACT scores are a reflection of the "sending" institution (i.e. their high schools), not the "receiving" institutions. And the reason why Utah ranks as the superior university per the ARWU, QS, and Times Higher Education polls -- aka, the three most influential and widely observed university rankings in the world -- is on account of who those institutions are "sending" out into the workforce. Edge: Utah.

    USNWR is a bogus pub due to their inability to validate the scores the Y provides them, and since the Y is so "secretive", they can make up any answers they want, and USNWR can't do anything about it.

  • redfeather Palo Alto, CA
    June 14, 2019 12:55 p.m.

    THEREALND

    “I will admit that I am not a Utah fan.”

    So you’re just a BYU hater without a team of your own.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    June 14, 2019 12:49 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    “BYU needs to get at least one 4-star recruit so their overall recruiting class finishes in the top 100. Good luck!”

    utah needs to win at least one Consensus National Championship and one Heisman Trophy before they start handing out unsolicited advice to much more accomplished programs.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 14, 2019 10:24 a.m.

    "MRM - Layton, UT
    June 14, 2019 9:23 a.m.
    THEREALND

    It’s telling that you’re so embarrassed to be a Utah fan, that U won’t even admit it."

    Why would I lie about that? I will admit that I am not a Utah fan.

  • MRM Layton, UT
    June 14, 2019 9:23 a.m.

    THEREALND

    It’s telling that you’re so embarrassed to be a Utah fan, that U won’t even admit it.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    June 14, 2019 9:20 a.m.

    BYu needs to get at least one 4-star recruit so their overall recruiting class finishes in the top 100. Good luck!

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 14, 2019 4:43 a.m.

    "No REAL Notre Dame fan would ever hang out on a BYU/Utah blog talking smack about BYU."

    Spoken like a real "blue n gold" fan.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    June 13, 2019 10:15 p.m.

    @blue & white - , 00

    "BYU will start the season 1-0. But before then this highly recruited lineman will sigh with the Y."
    -------------------------

    Semantics but important:

    This kid will NOT "sign" with BYU before any game this season. National Signing Day is done twice now. Both after the season is over.

    Gentry may COMMIT to BYU before the game, he may commit tomorrow. But he won't "sign".

    Most of BYU's 4* kids that commit, end up de-committing. But this kid wants to go to BYU for religious reasons. He wants to find a like minded spouse, etc.

    This is the perfect kid for BYU and that they get from time to time.

    Hope you get him and hope he's good when you actually see him play in 4 yrs.

    As for BYU beating Utah this yr. What makes you think that is possible? The fact that BYU finally lead for a good portion of the game last yr?

    Fools gold. The same fools gold as your new expectations for Wilson due to the bowl game.

    Utah was "sleep walking" through the game last yr. until they woke up. Then Utah went 35-7 on BYU in just over a quarter.

    It will be truly shocking if BYU beats Utah this yr. This is the yr. it likely won't be very close.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 13, 2019 10:06 p.m.

    deductive reasoning - Arlington, VA
    June 13, 2019 6:08 p.m.
    utemythology

    “Which colleges in America help the most children climb the income ladder?”

    BYU can’t be all things to all people.

    -------

    The University of Utah is and will continue to be.

  • Michigan Cougsfan68 Ann Arbor, MI
    June 13, 2019 9:30 p.m.

    TheRealND,
    Sounds like you are upset that neither Notre Dame nor Utah are on this kid's short list of schools that he is considering!!!!!!

  • blue n gold Redmond, WA
    June 13, 2019 9:19 p.m.

    THEREALND

    “The Real "ND"... Is that a "dodge"?”

    LOL 😂 🥴 🤣

    Don’t kid yourself or us.

    No REAL Notre Dame fan would ever hang out on a BYU/Utah blog talking smack about BYU.

    Especially, a “Notre Dame” fan that NEVER mentions anything about Notre Dame.

    Thanks for playing REAL UTE.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 13, 2019 8:52 p.m.

    "blue n gold - Redmond, WA
    June 13, 2019 8:34 p.m.
    THEREALND - Mishawaka, IN
    June 13, 2019 7:17 p.m.
    re: "which is why you’re too embarrassed to even admit which school that is."

    “It will come to you if you think hard enough”

    LOL at the dodge."

    The Real "ND"... Is that a "dodge"? I am out of further comments. You get the last word.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 13, 2019 8:51 p.m.

    blue & white - , 00
    June 13, 2019 6:07 p.m.
    BYU will start the season 1-0. But before then this highly recruited lineman will sigh with the Y. Utah May go on to win the 2-6 PAC south and again play in the least attended P5 championship game and probably loose.

    ---------

    BYU will start 0-4 and is looking at a 5-7 win season.

    Utah will beat BYU to go 8-3 LES. Then compete for the P12 title and a NY6 bowl.

  • blue n gold Redmond, WA
    June 13, 2019 8:34 p.m.

    THEREALND - Mishawaka, IN
    June 13, 2019 7:17 p.m.
    re: "which is why you’re too embarrassed to even admit which school that is."

    “It will come to you if you think hard enough”

    LOL at the dodge.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 13, 2019 7:17 p.m.

    "which is why you’re too embarrassed to even admit which school that is."

    It will come to you if you think hard enough.

  • Lone*Star Austin, TX
    June 13, 2019 6:59 p.m.

    THEREALND

    “Why do you care if I Express my opinion?”

    We couldn’t care less whether you express your opinion, or not.

    That said, BYU obviously finished well ahead of “your school”, which is why you’re too embarrassed to even admit which school that is.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 13, 2019 6:40 p.m.

    "If not, why do you care and why are you hanging out on a BYU/Utah/USU sports blog?"

    Why do you care if I Express my opinion?

    Tell me how many championships did Stanford win this year?

  • Lone*Star Austin, TX
    June 13, 2019 6:35 p.m.

    THEREALND

    “BYU had only half as many points as Stanford, the winner. And BYU will not finish in the top 25.”

    BYU is currently ranked #27, ahead of 7 of the 12 teams in the “conference of champions”, with nearly three times as many points as P12 Utah.

    #27 BYU 738.50 points
    #76 Utah 278.75 points

  • backpacn Sandy, UT
    June 13, 2019 6:15 p.m.

    THEREALND

    “But just consider, BYU had only half as many points as Stanford, the winner.”

    If you’re a Stanford fan, congrats, the Cardinal are one of main reasons why the PAC 12 can call itself the “conference of champions”.

    If not, why do you care and why are you hanging out on a BYU/Utah/USU sports blog?

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    June 13, 2019 6:08 p.m.

    utemythology

    “Which colleges in America help the most children climb the income ladder?”

    BYU can’t be all things to all people.

    The LDS church has other schools and programs in many countries around the world to help children climb the income ladder.

  • blue & white , 00
    June 13, 2019 6:07 p.m.

    BYU will start the season 1-0. But before then this highly recruited lineman will sigh with the Y. Utah May go on to win the 2-6 PAC south and again play in the least attended P5 championship game and probably loose. Again the 2-6 PAC conference is not in the final 4. I bet the PAC presidents regret inviting Utah and Colorado when they realized they could have keep 10 teams like the Big 12. These two schools bring little value. BYU would bring in more revenue if they were in the PAC 12 than Utah and the Y would have a stronger recruiting class than Utah since Utah would still be in the Mountain West. Being a member of a P5 helps recruiting especially with a brand name like the Y has. The Y does recruit better than some P5’s.
    It’s funny how the Utes Keep spinning their wheels with all the hard left rhetoric, just like the dems. Time to grow up and be respectful of others. Go Cougs.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 13, 2019 5:20 p.m.

    @deductive reasoning

    My comment has nothing to do with the University of Utah, which makes your response completely "off topic".

    But just consider, BYU had only half as many points as Stanford, the winner. And BYU will not finish in the top 25.

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    June 13, 2019 5:11 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    “No need to play the ever-so tired persecution card fine sir. Most folks that haver ever done any research know all about y'all.”

    Nobody plays the persecution card better than you brother.

    Lies have been written and spoken about the church since before it was formally organized.

    They’ll never change the truthfulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 13, 2019 5:09 p.m.

    One Angry Salebarn Worker - Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2019 2:33 p.m.
    @Uteology, how long did you have to dig for that obscure, totally irrelevant and misconstrued, worthless, manufactured data?

    -----

    SMH

    Which colleges in America help the most children climb the income ladder?

    [Not bottom dweller BYU.]

    We take a step toward answering this question by constructing mobility report cards – statistics on students’ earnings and their parents’ incomes – for each college in America.

    Source:
    The Equality of Opportunity Project

    Feel free to contact the authors of the research and explain why thier study is irrelevant and worthless.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 13, 2019 4:53 p.m.

    @One Angry Salebarn Worker - Salt Lake City,

    Here's just a few more reasons why a star Athlete and Student picks BYU. You already know, but process this reality again.

    #1 Best value for college in (Princeton Review, 2007) ...

    #1 "Top University to Work For in 2014" Forbes
    "Best college in Utah" Forbes

    Shall I go on? Naw.

    ------

    Star athletes don't pick BYU according to class rankings:

    2019 unranked in Top 100
    2018 #94
    2017 #62
    2016 #48

    Notice a trend, or should I go on?

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 13, 2019 4:32 p.m.

    @One Angry Salebarn Worker

    BYU and other accredited schools don't even report student financial data (as per FERPA law) leaving your reference nothing but click bait--which you all to willingly and naively swallowed.

    -----

    What? You just don't like the message.

    The research also appeared in the Deseret News.

    Being a proud Cougar alum and an education policy researcher, this news hit hard... Confronted with this uncomfortable finding, I dug deeper and consulted with the study’s authors about BYU’s anomalous result. In doing so, I learned BYU is much more selective—and not in a good way—than I thought. Let me explain why BYU and those invested in it should pay serious attention to its selectivity.

    Source:
    Rock-bottom social mobility score surprises BYU community
    Michael Hansen
    Friday, February 17, 2017

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 13, 2019 4:27 p.m.

    One Angry Salebarn Worker - Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2019 2:33 p.m.
    @Uteology, how long did you have to dig for that obscure, totally irrelevant and misconstrued, worthless, manufactured data?

    ------

    Low income families having access to college is irrelevant only at BYU.

    I think Jesus would disagree with you. Come to think of it, Jesus was from a low income family, he wouldn't have access to BYU.

    Just because you don't like the results doesn't make the data obscure or worthless. The data is valid, from a team of researchers led by Raj Chetty of Stanford University and John Friedman of Brown University.

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    June 13, 2019 4:22 p.m.

    THEREALND - Here is the basic scoring structure for the Leerfield Directors Cup:...

    Finishing in the Top 25 nationally is considered good; finishing in the Top 10 means you’re one of the best in the country.

    How many Top 10 and Top 25 finishes did BYU and Utah have during the 2018-2019 school year?

    Simply fielding a team, as Utah learned in Men’s Lacrosse, doesn’t get you anything except a participation ribbon, unless you’re good enough to finish in the Top 25.

    Any Utah fan who questions the validity of the Directors Cup is being totally disingenuous since the PAC 12 counts all of those sports to justify their claim to being the “conference of champions”.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    June 13, 2019 4:22 p.m.

    @ Deductive Reasoning,

    No need to play the ever-so tired persecution card fine sir. Most folks that haver ever done any research know all about y'all.

    Keep your chin up saint!

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 13, 2019 3:50 p.m.

    "pacmidmajor - Springville, UT
    June 13, 2019 3:19 p.m.
    This Young Man is going to make yet another great addition to the future of the Cougars Offensive Line !!"

    Seriously? If you read the article he hasn't chosen where he will play.

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    June 13, 2019 3:34 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    I suggest you get over your bigoted hatred of all things LDS and stop believing in the lies that have poisoned your mind.

  • But seriously folks! Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2019 3:31 p.m.

    The closer comparison between BYU and utah would be like comparing the two political parties we have in government;. Right leaning BYU and hard left leaning utah.
    That helps to understand why ute fans hammer everything about BYU.

  • pacmidmajor Springville, UT
    June 13, 2019 3:19 p.m.

    This Young Man is going to make yet another great addition to the future of the Cougars Offensive Line !!

  • One Angry Salebarn Worker Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2019 2:33 p.m.

    @Uteology, how long did you have to dig for that obscure, totally irrelevant and misconstrued, worthless, manufactured data? BYU and other accredited schools don't even report student financial data (as per FERPA law) leaving your reference nothing but click bait--which you all to willingly and naively swallowed.

    Here's just a few more reasons why a star Athlete and Student picks BYU. You already know, but process this reality again.

    #1 Best value for college in (Princeton Review, 2007)
    #1, #4 University library
    #19 in the U.S. News and World Report's "Great Schools, Great Prices"
    #12 in lowest student-incurred debt

    #1 nationally for students who go on to dental school
    #6 nationally for students who go on to law school
    #10 nationally for students who go on to medical school
    #10 nationally for the number of students who go on to earn PhDs

    #1 "Top University to Work For in 2014" Forbes
    "Best college in Utah" Forbes

    Shall I go on? Naw.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    June 13, 2019 1:44 p.m.

    @ Elkhorn,

    I suggest you Google for hours and then get back to me after you finally discover the truth about everything LDS.

    Please relish in the Director's Cup! BYu loses every year head-to-head vs Utah in the sports we all compete in.

    U must know by now......Y D1 athletics is almost done.....the "latter-days"........ almost here. BYu doesn't sell in the 21st century and no possible future......and they earned it!

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 13, 2019 1:35 p.m.

    Here is the basic scoring structure for the Leerfield Dirctors Cup:

    "Division I: Count 19 sports with the following breakdowns (decreased by 1, 19.1 avg.)
    - Four of which must be Baseball and Men's Basketball, Women's Basketball and Women's Volleyball
    - The next highest 15 (max.) sports scored for each institution, regardless of gender, will be used in the standings

    Sometimes being good at 19 sports, but great in none gets a little notoriety.

  • Elkhorn Loveland, CO
    June 13, 2019 12:34 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    Regardless of your painfully myopic world views, unfounded rhetoric, zany claims and relentless belittling of any and all.........BYU dwarfs Utah in overall athletic achievement...

    See Directors Cup standings for the last 30+ years.

    The Directors Cup measures athletic achievement in ALL NCAA Men’s and Women’s sports.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 13, 2019 12:15 p.m.

    @One Angry Salebarn Worker

    Why would a highly regarded Athlete and Student want to go to BYU?

    --------

    How about the lack of diversity and elitist culture.

    According to "mobility ratings” research for nearly all colleges in the country. The ratings represent how well institutions enable students from low-income backgrounds to both access and reap the benefits of college.

    On this mobility metric, BYU ranked 2,125 out of 2,137 institutions. Only 12 fared worse. Compared only among Division I research universities, BYU occupies the bottom spot.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    June 13, 2019 12:11 p.m.

    @ BYU-Dave,

    There have been MANY BYu professors that chose academic freedom that were fired, excommunicated, publicly harassed by the LDS community, etc......because they unveiled facts. Now, their employers, a church to a tiny few, act in a way that is not acceptable to 99,999% of all others on this planet. Fair enough, they own that school and existence. My question to U fine sir......."Should BYu and their owners ever expect to be considered in the world?" Well, they are facing ultimate ignorance by everyone!!!!!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 13, 2019 12:05 p.m.

    Aunty Mythology - Monrovia, CA
    June 13, 2019 9:50 a.m.
    JackRyanSLC

    "How many lineman has BYU put into the Pros the last 10 years?"

    How many Utah lineman have won the Outland Trophy - Best Interior Lineman?

    --------

    Same as Oregon, Clemson, Michigan ... ZERO.

    Today BYU is developing Outland Trophy talent?

    SMH

    He is a "BYU kid", if they can't even land him then losing blue bloods like Hansen and Covey is now the new normal. BYU is in deep trouble.

  • Pugman Tremonton, UT
    June 13, 2019 12:02 p.m.

    @jackryan
    To answer your question, being a Ute fan you should already know that the Utes place 3,657 players in the NFL each year. They are amass with such talent.

  • BYU-Dave Highland, UT
    June 13, 2019 11:56 a.m.

    I was curious about the censorship from the American Association of University Professors so I pulled the pdf document it was based on. It was based on a professor that didn't get tenure because she was writing articles inconsistent with the church doctrine. This is a church based university by the way. I applaud the university for taking this stand.

    This article is about teenager with a lot of athletic talent that BYU has a good chance of recruiting. It just seems so disrespectful to expose this fine young man to petty arguments from a bunch of not so grown up adults

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    June 13, 2019 11:47 a.m.

    I'm always amazed at how disturbed some people (usual suspects) become just because a teenager somewhere said he might attend BYU to play football. Kind of amusing actually.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    June 13, 2019 11:47 a.m.

    @ Bluto,

    Regardless of your painfully myopic world views, unfounded rhetoric, zany claims and relentless belittling of any and all..........BYu is not in any game these days pal for a myriad of legit factors. They are what they "are," and nobody wants any part of them as it relates to almost every valid consideration. Y'all live in a way that others always avoid. The "truth" is very painful at times dear soul. Either try to get along with others, or don't EVER expect any consideration. It is THAT SIMPLE dear saint.

  • One Angry Salebarn Worker Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2019 11:40 a.m.

    Why would a highly regarded Athlete and Student want to go to BYU?

    BYU:

    Ave ACT: 30

    #66 in National Universities

    #11 in Best Value Schools

    #87 in High School Counselor Rankings

    UU:

    Ave. ACT: 23

    #119 in National Universities

    #133 in Best Value Schools

    #148 in High School Counselor Rankings

  • Elkhorn Loveland, CO
    June 13, 2019 11:35 a.m.

    timid sparrow

    “American Association of University Professors, which was appointed by the federal government in 1915 (there's the legal right you were hoping I couldn't find).”

    Some scholars have criticized the AAUP's "antipathy toward religious colleges and universities." And the AAUP has censured numerous religious institutions, including Brigham Young University and The Catholic University of America. Others have criticized the AAUP's current stance regarding academic freedom in religious institutions as contradicting its 1940 statement on academic freedom, which permits religious institutions to place limits on academic freedom if those limitations are clearly stated. In 1970, the AAUP criticized its 1940 statement, positing that most religious institutions "no longer need or desire" to place limits on academic freedom.

    Bottom line, the liberal, anti-religion professors of the ASUP violated their own 1940 statement by censuring BYU for academic freedom in the 1990’s.

    BYU’s accrediting organization cleared BYU

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    June 13, 2019 11:23 a.m.

    @Timid Sparrow

    Correction:

    USNWR "Academic" ranking's for National Universities....

    BYU # 66 Top Tier
    Utah #119 2nd Tier

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    June 13, 2019 11:19 a.m.

    Clinging to an Association of College Professors, opinions?
    Again, consider the source.

    These are the same people who don't believe in pronouns and universal freedom of speech and do believe in safe spaces and micro- aggressions.

    This so called group of Professor's opinions are irrelevant in Academia.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    June 13, 2019 11:09 a.m.

    @ Brave Sir Robin,

    I respectfully disagree fine sir. They were and still are "censured," not on probation. Goooooooo Utes my friend!

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    June 13, 2019 11:04 a.m.

    @ Aunty Myths,

    HAHAHA! Thanks for posting the annual USN&WR guide for incoming freshman advertising supplement for the thousandth time. Yeah, whY don't you look at that SPECIFIC criteria and who is paying for it. BYu's owners spend great coin for that advertisement........like they do for buses and billboards sprinkled about worldwide. Have U ever actually looked at the USN&WR's "academic ranking?" I bet NOT! The tragic truth haunts y'all every darn day, always has.

    Smile more, my "brother."

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    June 13, 2019 10:56 a.m.

    @Aunty Mythology

    "Name the organization that put BYU on "academic probation" and their legal right to do so."

    American Association of University Professors, which was appointed by the federal government in 1915 (there's the legal right you were hoping I couldn't find).

    Interestingly, their first probatory action was against the University of Utah, in February 1915 (I thought you Utah haters might get a kick out of that). Utah was taken off probation in 1916.

    BYU-P was placed on probation in September 1998 and remains there today.

  • Aunty Mythology Monrovia, CA
    June 13, 2019 10:50 a.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    "However, they were and still are "censured" by the AAUP(American Association of University Professors) since the early 1990s"

    What you conveniently ignored in your desperate claim is that

    BYU was cleared of the "academic freedom" AAUP complaints in the early 1990's by BYU's accrediting organization, the Northwest Commission on Colleges and Universities.

    Accreditation of an institution of higher education by the Northwest Commission on Colleges and Universities indicates that it meets or exceeds criteria for the assessment of institutional quality evaluated through a peer review process.

  • Aunty Mythology Monrovia, CA
    June 13, 2019 10:43 a.m.

    USN&WR National University Rankings 2019

    Brigham Young University #66
    University of Utah #119

    * don't even bother dragging some foreign world ranking system into the discussion - heavily skewed by money spent on research - 99% of Utah's athletes wouldn't even qualify to get into any of Utah's graduate programs, especially Utah's Medical programs.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    June 13, 2019 10:37 a.m.

    BYu has NEVER been put on academic probation by ANYONE! That is a fact! However, they were and still are "censured" by the AAUP(American Association of University Professors) since the early 1990s. Also, there is NOT one major conference, any faculty, regents, administrators, etc....... that will EVER accept BYu as a schoo due tol = "academic freedom and core curricula"

    A BYu education is not appropriate in the world of academics and they are ranked accordingly by EVERY academic only ranking body on this planet.

    BYu caters to their flock, designed by their astute owners ONLY!

  • Aunty Mythology Monrovia, CA
    June 13, 2019 10:33 a.m.

    Yes indeedy folks,

    BYU lives rent free, 24x7, inside the heads of our BYU-obsessed little brothers.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    June 13, 2019 10:17 a.m.

    Yes indeedy folks, the Y is in the running to get another 4-star player again. Yeah, they get just "ONE" every year on average......HAHAHA! CONGRATS! Now, will the kid stick around, become just another Y bust and on and on......? Who knows. What we ALL KNOW however.........BYu cannot attract enough decent players at the FBS level.

    "Sheriff Sitake" and the vaunted, alleged "Kalani Effect" is surely impressive.........okay then.......oh my goodness?

  • Aunty Mythology Monrovia, CA
    June 13, 2019 10:15 a.m.

    timid sparrow

    "The only thing that sets BYU-P apart in the rocky mountain region is the fact that they're on academic probation..."

    You obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about.

    Name the organization that put BYU on "academic probation" and their legal right to do so.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    June 13, 2019 10:12 a.m.

    @TimidSparrow

    By whom?
    The liberal minded Professors Association?
    Who cares.

    BYU has academic and moral standards and won't capitulate to the lefties in Academia.

    BYU is indeed the only top tier University in the Rocky Mountain Region.
    USNWR #66

    Utah
    #66 USNWR...2nd tier

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    June 13, 2019 9:58 a.m.

    @CodyCougar

    "That would be someone who wants a top flight university education and has the brains to thrive there. There's only one of those in the Rocky Mountain Region--BYU."

    Laughable. The only thing that sets BYU-P apart in the rocky mountain region is the fact that they're on academic probation - the only school in the region that can claim that.

  • Aunty Mythology Monrovia, CA
    June 13, 2019 9:50 a.m.

    JackRyanSLC

    "How many lineman has BYU put into the Pros the last 10 years?"

    How many Utah lineman have won the Outland Trophy - Best Interior Lineman?

  • CodyCougar Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2019 9:41 a.m.

    "Stereotypical BYU kid"?

    That would be someone who wants a top flight university education and has the brains to thrive there. There's only one of those in the Rocky Mountain Region--BYU.

  • JackRyanSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2019 9:00 a.m.

    How many lineman has BYU put into the Pros the last 10 years? How many lineman has Utah put into pros the last 10 years? Would love to see this kid go to Utah...close to home, far superior OL development program for the Pros, Utah understands how to work with RM's just as well as BYU, Utah has huge institute program so he can stay aligned with church and dating scene when he returns from mish, can play a legit schedule with P5 conference champ contender instead of a front loaded schedule.

  • Thomas Jefferson Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2019 8:44 a.m.

    Good luck to BYU but looking at this statement:
    ""The level of football. Who you're playing against and who you're getting coached by. Are you going to be able to progress to the next level," Gentry said. "And then academics. Is it going to be a place where if football doesn't work out, can you get a great eduction(sic)?""
    screams that he isnt going to go to BYU.

    RE: other recruits.
    "Nate Ritchie, a linebacker prospect from Lone Peak who appears to be deciding between BYU and Stanford"
    If your choice it BYU or Stanford the you dont really have a choice. You cant compare these two schools on any grounds. Other than church affiliation there is no reason to choose BYU over Stanford.

  • FanofSports American Fork, UT
    June 13, 2019 8:22 a.m.

    @ Vernal Roid
    "Things have gotten so bad that the only thing to write about is a hopeful prospect?"

    It's the middle of the Summer. Coaches are busy with their camps. No practices, other than the players working on things on their own. This is the best kind of information you're going to get right now. The fact that this young man has BYU as a solid option is good news. Over the past 5-6 years, BYU wasn't even really being considered by this level of talent. The fact that BYU has been able to sign some of the talent they have signed is good news. They are moving in the right direction.

  • Vernal Roid , 00
    June 13, 2019 6:58 a.m.

    Things have gotten so bad that the only thing to write about is a hopeful prospect? It's becoming harder and harder to be a fan.

  • Aggielove Caldwell, ID
    June 13, 2019 6:46 a.m.

    Is BYU even in the top 100?

  • Caddis Terry, MT
    June 13, 2019 6:34 a.m.

    @ Y ask Y, Why?

  • IJ Hyrum, Ut
    June 13, 2019 6:18 a.m.

    "A stereotypical BYU kid"?

    I know I would be honored if I were Mr. Gentry!

  • adamz West Valley, UT
    June 13, 2019 6:17 a.m.

    "A stereotypical BYU kid" is a lazy turn of phrase. You can write better than that.

  • mindgames Aurora, CO
    June 12, 2019 11:48 p.m.

    “Y Ask Y - Provo, UT
    June 12, 2019 10:07 p.m.
    "A stereotypical BYU kid"?
    I think I would be offended if I was Mr Gentry.”

    I am sure you would be offended, but to the rest of BYU Nation we see that as an honor. The stereotypical BYU kid has high intelligence, high standards, and is clean cut. I can see why you might be offended.

  • Seldom Seen Smith Orcutt, CA
    June 12, 2019 11:12 p.m.

    Enjoy the western association conference athletic division.

  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    June 12, 2019 10:07 p.m.

    "A stereotypical BYU kid"?

    I think I would be offended if I was Mr Gentry.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    June 12, 2019 9:50 p.m.

    Another top prospect for BYU.