Utah Rep. Ben McAdams, other Democrats put congressional pay raise on hold

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  • ConservativeCommonTater Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2019 4:53 p.m.

    lost in DC - West Jordan, UT
    June 12, 2019 1:53 p.m.
    More grandstanding by ben.

    "Too bad he voted against religious liberty in one of his first major votes. He’s not the moderate he claims, but is squarely in nancy’s camp."

    What religious liberties have you lost? Religious liberties means YOU want to impose your beliefs on others. No thank you. Keep them to yourself.

    "Tater
    The house is controlled by the dems, and that is where all spending bills, like this, must originate"

    Yes, and greedy Republicans in the Senate won't turn it down. This it is APPROVED by Republicans. So much for their claim of "fiscally conservative.

  • Californian#1@94131 SF, CA
    June 12, 2019 2:13 p.m.

    After disabling the government for weeks earlier last winter, it's almost criminal for anyone in Congress to think about giving themselves any raise, whether it's in salary, COLA, or any of the other perks that we taxpayers pay for.

    They get free postage, meals at the Congressional dining rooms, exercise clubs just for them, and travel allowances. Real, normal, honest, working Americans don't get all that - and in addition, have to actually perform to get paid.

    And how many real, normal, honest, working Americans get to decide and approve their own salaries?

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    June 12, 2019 1:53 p.m.

    More grandstanding by ben.

    Too bad he voted against religious liberty in one of his first major votes. He’s not the moderate he claims, but is squarely in nancy’s camp.

    FT
    Just because you disagree does not mean Mike’s opinion is not sound or defensible. Nice personal attack you got past the DN’s liberal censors

    Tater
    The house is controlled by the dems, and that is where all spending bills, like this, must originate

  • calu Salt Lake City, UT
    June 12, 2019 1:04 p.m.

    535 members of US Congress times $4500. equals $2,407,500

  • Frozen Fractals Paducah, KY
    June 12, 2019 12:11 p.m.

    @mike Richards
    "Mr. McAdams thinks that he should be paid another $4,500 per year. "
    "He just lost my vote."

    He never had your vote, he was never going to get your vote, and even if he did, an inability to read an article and see Ben had the exact opposite view would be the silliest reason ever to withhold a vote.

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    June 12, 2019 10:50 a.m.

    Congress shouldn't get a raise or maybe even get paid until they come together and get something done. If you spent all your time fighting at work instead of getting things done you would be fired let alone getting a raise. This is true in the private sector and many other parts of government. Let's get rid of the two party system, get the money out of our elections, implement term limits, and elect people who are willing to work together and get something done. The American people do not deserve any less.

    Good for you Ben Adams for stepping up about no raises until you get something done.

  • ConservativeCommonTater Salt Lake City, UT
    June 12, 2019 9:53 a.m.

    "The 4th Congressional District representative, who unseated two-term former Republican Rep. Mia Love last year, was one of at least 15 mostly freshmen in competitive House districts pushing for a pay freeze, Politico reported."

    "I don't think it's something that Congress should take up this year. Especially in my experience, compensation is always linked to job performance. And Congress as a whole hasn't earned a pay increase."

    That's more than Mia "Rubber Stamp" did during her entire "career: as a Representative

    Flipphone - 00

    "Ben going to say he is against a pay increase for his own political reason but the reality is that the Democrat Controlled congress will pass the increase and Ben will benefit from saying he against increase, at the same time fating his bank account."

    Pssst, Congress is NOT controlled by Dems, pay attention. The Senate is controlled by Republicans. But, nice try on trying to make Ben look like the bad guy for telling the truth.

    Mike Richards

    "Mr. McAdams thinks that he should be paid another $4,500 per year." Noooo, he said there should NOT be a raise of $4,500 a year.

    You didn't read well or you are intent on lying about what McAdams said.

  • TerraPack Sandy, UT
    June 12, 2019 4:10 a.m.

    To: not so brave...Brave Sir Robin - San Diego, CA

    "Yet somehow the conservatives will find something wrong with McAdams for this..."

    Of course numerate conservatives can find something wrong with Ben's trivial action... Because it is NOTHING!

    Democrats want to ramp up spending by hundreds of billions of dollars on entitlements and social welfare spending. They are in desperate need of some math training. America's debt is well beyond safe levels and is tremendously dangerous to our continued existence as a free nation.

    Start doing your homework, Ben. If the $4,500 salary hike will help sustain or lengthen the attention of socialist minded Democrats, let them have it.
    Just get to work and work together to deal rationally with our massive problems.

  • Neanderthal Springville, UT
    June 11, 2019 11:36 p.m.

    @Traveller: "How would you measure performance in Congress?"

    The way to measure is... what have they done of significance? The answer is nothing. They spent most of their time trying to get Trump out of the White House.

    What the Congress should be doing is:

    Stop the unauthorized immigration into the US and do away with asylum and chain migration.

    Will this happen? Not as long as the Dems control the House. They like immigration of any kind. It helps them politically.

    Another important issue... balance the federal budget and start resolving the US $21 trillion debt.

  • zipadeedoodah Lehi, UT
    June 11, 2019 7:32 p.m.

    I think pay for Congress sb based on approval ratings. As ratings dip, they should decrease their pay.

  • Al Vernal, UT
    June 11, 2019 5:42 p.m.

    @ Palmetto Bug
    Great post describing why we need to raise teacher pay.

  • mallow Pleasant Grove, UT
    June 11, 2019 5:27 p.m.

    Thank you, Representative McAdams. Wish we had more people like you representing us. Maybe you will be able to address other perks also. Want to run for President?

  • bamafone Salem, UT
    June 11, 2019 4:54 p.m.

    Just an old play pulled from a football playbook. Pull everyone to the right, then punch it through on a reverse to the left.

  • deseret pete Springville, UT
    June 11, 2019 4:41 p.m.

    It was only put on hold -- 10 - 1 they will sneak it in when they can with some other junk legislation like they been passing.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    June 11, 2019 4:25 p.m.

    @DN subscriber;
    "But, good on Ben for doing the right thing."

    Good comment. I'm proud of you. Seriously.

  • OldMain Saratoga Springs, UT
    June 11, 2019 3:44 p.m.

    Tell ya what, Congress, I am more than happy to give you a pay raise on three conditions: 1) You MUST pass a balanced budget every year. 2) You have to submit a bill to the President implementing term limits on both the House and the Senate. 3) There has to be a five year waiting period before any member of Congress can become a lobbyist.

  • TMR Pasadena, CA
    June 11, 2019 3:32 p.m.

    It is really tough being a Democrat in Utah. McAdams votes against the pay raise for all of the reasons a conservative Republican would proffer and he gets attacked by those who either did not read the article or intentionally misrepresent McAdam’s position (i.e., Mike Richards, below) and by those who believe that McAdams will be party to sneaking in the pay raise at a later point.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    June 11, 2019 3:02 p.m.

    Congratulations to Ben and those of both parties who are trying to halt the undeserved pay raise for Congress members! The national debt is burying us; members of both houses who are independently wealthy could care less for the money-just the power; they are getting paid plenty; and, oh yes, job performance. Currently, the approval rating for Congress is 18%. 18%! There isn't another group or individual in the country who could keep their jobs with that level of ineptitude. (To put it into perspective-their rating is half of Trump's).

    Forget the proposed raise: instead, have them give 50% of their current compensation back!

  • Obama10 SYRACUSE, UT
    June 11, 2019 2:40 p.m.

    If I read just the headline, it would make me believe that only Democrats were against the pay raise, and infer that Republicans and the "nasty Donald Trump" wanted to raise the pay wage. But conveniently left out by the Desnews headline in a paragraph buried in the story is that this is a bi-partisian measure to stop the pay raise. But, since the Democrats controll the house and all spending bills originate with the House, it sounds like the Democrats and Rep McAdams are "standing up for the little guy". I have always wondered how someone who enters politics with relatively meager means and earns $174,000 a year, can retire in a few years a millionaire after "public service". Great work if you can get it.

  • Palmetto Bug Columbia, SC
    June 11, 2019 2:35 p.m.

    I can appreciate the frustrations people have with congress but I generally don't have a problem with their salaries.
    Despite what people think, being a congressperson is a difficult and complex job. Like most things in life, you get what you pay for, and if we want better congresspeople we need to compensate accordingly (maybe the gov't isn't run well because we aren't attracting the most qualified applicants to manage things across all levels of gov't).
    If the salaries get too low, we'll have fewer talented and qualified people running for congress because they would make substantially more in the private sector. I know not every member of congress is brilliant or capable but on average these are highly qualified people.

    And I'm not naive to the perks of being a member of congress but being a congressperson also has large costs that make it difficult for lower income people to serve (e.g., maintaining housing in their home state and in DC, travel time away from family, etc). And I appreciate it's important to get people from a variety of backgrounds to ensure our lawmakers have diverse perspectives.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    June 11, 2019 2:23 p.m.

    @Mike Richards
    Sound, defensible opinions should be made after reading, researching and listening. One hardly things McAdams lost your vote. He never got it the first time around.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 11, 2019 2:21 p.m.

    Ben was right on the issue, and I am glad it looks like the pay raise will not be passed.

    It is shameful (but, politicians have no shame) the way Congress structured their pay raise deal so that is automatic unless they vote against it, and then voting against it can usually be delayed by leadership or parliamentary maneuvering, so everyone can say "I was against the raise, but it happened anyway."

    Jimmy Matheson used to play the game that he was against it, and after it passed he refused to take the increased amount... until the following session.

    Actually, Congress does not deserve to be paid anything in a year where they have not passed the required budget and appropriations bills by September 30th. (They have failed every year for decades now.) If, by some miracle they do pass the spending bills, then they should only get half pay if their spending results in a deficit for that year.

    But, good on Ben for doing the right thing.

  • skeptic Phoenix, AZ
    June 11, 2019 1:49 p.m.

    Politicians have no shame when it comes to self service at taxpayers expense. They just see it as another freebie given away to the select privileged at the public trough. The USA could have better representative government at a big savings by firing half of the house of representatives. They way out number their usefulness. Much more productive work could be done at much less overhead. We could do better by farming out congress to private enterprise, Public universities or to the military.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    June 11, 2019 1:46 p.m.

    Yet somehow the conservatives will find something wrong with McAdams for this...

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    June 11, 2019 1:40 p.m.

    Big J, you have to remember the core concept of socialists: it's the other people who suffer, not me!

    Every single socialist/communist thinks that they will be part of the "leadership" under socialism or communism. None of them want to be the factory worker, they all think they will be in the Politburo. Being the factory worker is for the common plebe, not the virtuous leftist who will get to order us around.

    They want to rule over a dystopian nightmare, not serve amongst the rising tide that lifts everyone.

  • Tuffy Parker Salem, UT
    June 11, 2019 1:33 p.m.

    @ Mike Richards - South Jordan, UT - You may want to reread the article. Rep. McAdams is not in favor of the COL increase but rather is pushing against it.

    Not generally a fan of McAdams but he's on the right side of this issue. Where are the other Utah representatives on this?

  • Big J Bountiful, UT
    June 11, 2019 1:00 p.m.

    I'm surprised at AOC. From her usual nonsensical rhetoric you would have thought she would oppose an increase. Then again, she is already making far more then she ever would have and just wants a little more for doing nothing.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, UT
    June 11, 2019 12:12 p.m.

    Mr. McAdams thinks that he should be paid another $4,500 per year. That's just great. I received a whopping $468 increase in 2019 ($39 per month). That really made things nice around here. We only eat dog food three times a week instead of five times a week. We can't afford to visit the Zoo, for which we are taxed, or the Symphony or even TRAX, but we get $2,000 a month from a government that forced us to join their Social Security program. That same amount of money, if invested in government securities, would yield more than twice that amount monthly without ever touching the principle.

    So go ahead, Mr. McAdams. Tell us why you're worth another $4,500 per year while SERVING Utah in the House. Why not demand a cut in pay for all members of Congress? Why not put yourselves on a budget? Why not live on the same amount that the rest of us have to live on? Could you live on $2,000 a month? Then why do you force those of use who worked all of our lives to live on that amount.

    You lost my vote.

  • n8ive american Shelley, Idaho
    June 11, 2019 12:12 p.m.

    Considering that they only work an average of 138 "legislative days" a year, that $174,000 a year salary is outrageous. They say that they cannot afford to live on such "meager" wages. How about the average American trying to make it on around $50,000 a year or less?
    They limited a president to 2 terms because they were afraid they would have too much power. It's time to limit them to 2 terms and remove their ability to give themselves pay raises whenever they feel like it. Also, cut their pay to no more than $100,000 a year and make them actually work for it.

  • SoonerCougar Herriman, UT
    June 11, 2019 12:01 p.m.

    Members of Congress should receive the national median household salary of the Citizens of the County. Their salary should be tied to that average. Then if they want a raise they would have to work hard to raise everyone's salary in the County and not just the lobbyist or large corporations backing them.

  • Traveller Farmington, UT
    June 11, 2019 11:55 a.m.

    "Only in Congress could you hike your own pay without regard to performance or fiscal responsibility,"

    How would you measure performance in Congress? Number of bills passed? Number of times re-elected? Popularity in polls? Number of opponents who insult you regularly?

  • Flipphone , 00
    June 11, 2019 11:46 a.m.

    The increase would have boosted the annual $174,000 salary for a member of Congress by $4,500.

    He said the country is already "on the unbelievable path of digging a nearly $1 trillion budget hole by the end of September" and that "it is immoral to keep adding to that financial burden to our children and grandchildren."

    Ben going to say he is against a pay increase for his own political reason but the reality is that the Democrat Controlled congress will pass the increase and Ben will benefit from saying he against increase, at the same time fating his bank account.

  • Red Smith , 00
    June 11, 2019 11:40 a.m.

    Politicians don't work . Why should they be paid more. While Salt Lake County was paying Ben McAdams for full time work as the County Mayor, Ben McAdams was working full time to get himself another job. What happened to an honest days work for an honest day's pay? We don't get that from our Congress persons.

    When Jason Chafetz resigned 6 months early to go work at FOX, it cost our county $500,000 in added election costs. That was not very kind and thoughtful. That $500,000 could have been better spent on real things.

    Congress has an approval rating of 23% and wants a raise? No. They should be pay cuts for not working and no pay checks when the gov't is shut down.