They are free to open a store. And I'm free to laugh at them when they
close the store in a year.At least, I hope they go out of business
from lack of customers. Sadly, I'm sure they will be fine as a
"novelty" for a while. As for Impartial.... consider which
is more likely to happen: a Starbucks opening in Provo, or a deli closing on
Sunday in San Francisco due to desires to be closed on the Sabbath. Almost
certainly a lawsuit as "tolerant" leftists demonstrate their complete
intolerance for everything.
"Instead of Starbucks I make my Coffee at home, yell out my name incorrectly
and light a five dollar bill on fire"
One of the dumbest financial moves anyone can make is to be a frequent customer
of Starbucks. I have my personal finance students (in NY) track their spending
for a month as the first step in establishing a budget and to figure out places
to cut back. They are absolutely horrified when they see how much they spend at
places like Starbucks, often over $1,000 per year. And these are poor college
As a card-carrying member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and
also a Starbucks gold card rewards club member, I'm all for Starbucks
opening wherever they can make money. Due to dietary restrictions,
they are one of very few places I can enjoy a hot drink on a cold day. For
obvious reasons, I avoid coffee, and leaf tea; but for health reasons I cannot
have dairy, caffeine, or sugar. So where can I get a non-dairy, non-coffee,
sugar free, hot chocolate? It's hard to find at one-off specialty shops,
but almost all starbucks carry it.
ImpSon, there's not much about Utah you like, is there?
Pretty soon they're be a zillion of 'em. I can't afford
them, nor do I have any idea of the lingo necessary to order there. Let me know
when there's a Tim Hortons in the neighbourhood.
@Impartial7: "... a zion curtain to keep young kids from seeing coffee being
poured."Two notable points from the small minded jab at Utah
laws.1-The CoJCoLDS' health code treats coffee and tea exactly
as it does alcohol and tobacco. That Utah has no laws limiting coffee or tea is
evidence that our laws governing alcohol and tobacco are about legitimate public
health concerns rather than any attempt to impose religious values or practices
on non-believers.2-The much maligned visual barrier in new
restarants operating under expanding alcohol licenses was a compromise between
the legislature and the hospitality industry to expand the number of alcohol
licenses available to restaurants. It was one of several small items itended to
maintain disctinctions between restaurants and bars. That the hospitality
industry accepted the deal and then so quickly attacked it, shows a lack of
integrity on their part.Want more bars? Lobby for more bars. But if
you claim it is about allowing more legit restaurants to operate, then
don't try to have bars pretend to be restaraunts to take advantage of
easier licensing.Not even drinkers want a bar as a next door
neighbor; Too many problems.
@Elsleuth:The price of a home in 1950 was just over $7,000.Everything was more affordable then.
I'm sure they will get patrons. Even though it won't be a mass
movement they will still make money because their drinks are so overpriced. In
1950 cup of coffee was 15 cents.
What I find hilarious is that in all this hubbub of Provo not having enough
coffee shops, and the hullabaloo of Starbucks coming to town, the article
mentions it's opening up.... wait for it, "Adjacent
to...Einstein's Bros. Bagels" which is, among other things, a coffee
shop. There's a metaphor here somewhere. I just don't want
to look for it.
I sat next to a Star Bucks executive on a plane 10 years of so ago and we had a
good laugh on no stores in Utah County. I think they had 1 at the time with no
plans for more. There was no ill will or animosity just an agreed upon fact
that it was not the best fit due to demographics for a store to be busy and make
enough money. I guess it would be like putting a Hot dog stand or
a BBQ pork sandwich shop in a Jewish part of NYC or a Muslim part of the world.
Just does not make a lot of sense. I travel the world for work and
my cohorts patronize Star Bucks and I have a fruit smoothie and a danish. Hey a
nice place to sit and free wifi. If they want to go to Provo so be it but
don't expect the major population there to patronize it. Especially on
I think, to keep things fair, they should require them to build a zion curtain
to keep young kids from seeing coffee being poured.
I go to Starbucks once in a while for their non-coffee drinks. Definitely
overpriced. Truthfully, I never noticed there wasn’t one in Provo.