worf - McAllen, TXJune 10, 2019 11:16 a.m."A team of
bitter anti-Trumpers put together a four hundred page report over a period of
two years and some folks take it as total truth. Crazy!"Your
only source that the investigators were a " team of bitter
anti-Trumpers" is Donald Trump and wingnut media. Dependence on Fox News for
you information is detrimental to your perception of reality.As for
"[taking] it as total truth", there is evidence provided to guide people
in making decisions. Also, there is even more underlying evidence that AG Bill
Barr and the DOJ suppressed. If you want to believe whatever you want, OK. But
at least get the facts right on the subject.Personal attacks
don't enhance your message of denial. If you have something substantial to
say, people will listen. But attacking the investigators will lead nowhere as
they are highly reputable people put together by a man who is without stain in
his reputation of being honest, fair, and uncorrectable.By the way,
did you read the Mueller Report in its entirety? Perhaps if you did, you might
find it enlightening. Those who have recognize it as a significant piece of
work, a literal indictment of Donald Trump.
n8ive american - Shelley, IdahoJune 9, 2019 2:23 p.m."Democrats don't care for truth, otherwise they would have never
started an "investigation" based on a known fake Russian
dossier."READ THE MUELLER REPORT.If you took the
time to read the report, you would learn why the FBI appointed a special counsel
to investigate Russian interference into the 2016 election. The Steel dossier
came later and was not any factor in the initiation of FBI surveillance into
Trump associates connected with Russia.If you reject the findings of
Robert Mueller as stated in the first sentence of the report, then say so.
Don't try to distract with some bogus claim. You either acknowledge that
Russia interfered or it didn't. What's your position? Then tell us if
you think an investigation into it was justified. Simple.
worf - McAllen, TXJune 9, 2019 10:22 a.m."Some folks place
total trust in: . . . "You might want to tell us why you say
this and what you base it on. Other than just another partisan diatribe, you
need to put a little meat in the sandwich.And where do you put your
trust? Where do you get your information? How far to the Right do you stand as
your comments have always suggested an extreme Right-ward position?Perhaps that is what we all would like to know. What is your primary source of
information since you disparage the primary news sources considered the
newspapers of record: NY Times, WaPost, WSJ, and LA Times?
3grandslams - Eagle Mountain, UTJune 9, 2019 4:46 p.m."I
have forever tried to avoid calling this a witch-hunt. After reading this
article, I can’t think of a better term."For now, you
don't need to read the entire Mueller Report. That is a lot to digest and
you might want to wait for the Reader's Digest version. Hopefully, AG Bill
Barr won't be involved in writing it, but I digress. What you
need to do is read the summaries at the beginning of each section, particularly
where Robert Mueller talks about the multi-dimensional Russians attack on our
election system.The investigation into that is the "witch
hunt" that Donald Trump complains about. To acknowledge that Russia tried to
help him win the 2016 election is to accept that his election was tainted Russia
trolls, bots, theft of private property and subterfuge to assist the Trump
campaign in the election. We may never know how significant the
Russian attack was, but it did exist and the votes in three critical states
could have easily swung the other way had the it not occurred and voter
suppression efforts had not reduced turn-out among Democratic voters in 2016.As for obstruction, you might need to read more.
Thid Barker - Victor, IDJune 9, 2019 8:39 p.m."Some
commenters on here claimed that the Mueller report contains evidence of
President Trump's wrongdoing. But they never tell us what that evidence is!
"Do you really want someone to copy and paste excerpts from
Section II of the Mueller Report? Maybe you don't want to read it, but one
primary example is when Donald Trump ordered the White House counsel, Don
McGahn, to talk to AG Jeff Sessions and tell him to end the Mueller
investigation. Then there was his demand for Cory Lewandowski, who
wasn't part of the White House staff to deliver a message to Sessions to
give a speech defending Trump and have him get tell Mueller to "limit the
special counsel's investigation to future election interference."Trump always requested others to do his dirty work, so we have two
instances of obstruction, clearly testified to by both McGahn and Lewandowski.
That's two examples. There are eight others in the report. Your refusal to
acknowledge what is right in front of your nose is embarrassing.Either read the report or get out of the conversation. Pushing Trump's
case only gets you further into trouble dealing with the facts. Your choice.
Worf-“There is more truth with Obama not being born in America
than Trump colluding with Putin.”Thanks for unwillingly
proving my point once again Worf. Your comment represents the ideology and
mindset of the Supreme Leader’s low informational base. There should be
absolutely no whining or complaints regarding being labeled as such when one
posts such absolutely absurd comments. Read the report comrade, rather engaging
in ongoing deflection and repetitive misinformation. I dare you. You’re
worf - McAllen, TXJune 10, 2019 11:16 a.m."A team of bitter
anti-Trumpers put together a four hundred page report over a period of two years
and some folks take it as total truth. Crazy!"wrong as usual.
The "anti-Trumpers" were headed up by Mueller, a life long
Republicans and a team of mostly Republican investigators.Guys like
you keep denying, as does Trump, when the facts are obvious. Your denials of
everything from Trump to global climate change don't make you right.Your comments just show how out of touch you are with reality.
Carnival Barker - “Democrats need to learn the difference between
opinion and evidence! The Mueller report had no evidence but lots of his
group's opinions. Opinions, no matter whose they are, are not
evidence!”worf -“Trump hating set of liberals.Simply amazing! Opinions based on rubbish!”3-“The only thing discovered investigating Trump is length Democrats went
to fabricate evidence.” Scrappy- “Democrats
continue their spin on Mueller report.”Naive American-“Democrats don't care for truth, otherwise they would have never
started an "investigation" based on a known fake Russian
dossier.”Flash-“Seriously, the Democrats are going
to change any minds with their spin on information we've had for weeks? I
doubt it.” Thanks for proving you still haven’t read
Mueller’s report. The posting of ongoing low information and propaganda is
a dead giveaway. I dare you all to read the complete report and then repost.
Facts matter! You’re welcome comrades. Comrade RiDal-“know because I downloaded it and read it.”If so
you’d realize how treasonous and absurd your comments are regarding
Mueller’s report and findings. You’re fooling no one but yourself.
A team of bitter anti-Trumpers put together a four hundred page report over a
period of two years and some folks take it as total truth. Crazy!The
truth is they couldn't find collusion. No proof or facts. No matter much
they wanted it.Yet some folks are desperately clinging to the idea
that collusion did occur.There is more truth with Obama not being
born in America than Trump colluding with Putin.
worf said: "Why do some folks treat the Mueller report as honest? An honest
piece of work?"Why do you speculate based on radio here say that
it is a biased report, nothing has been found to be false or dishonest in or
about the report.worf said: "He and his team of investigators
are all anti Trumpers wanting him out of office."Absolute False
statement, but DNews is very lenient with worf, for some reason?worf
said: "They just couldn't find collusion or obstruction, but it
doesn't mean they didn't put as much rubbish as possible into
it."They weren't looking for collusion, as it is not a
crime, for some reason you keep repeating it, it's almost like you have no
idea what's in the report, none at all. Obstruction, well
Mueller outlines over 10 instances that a majority of lawyers in America say
rise to the level of obstruction, but that a special "rule" protects
Trump from indictment. Also see unindicted co-conspirator individual 1, and
wonder in your alternate reality who that could be?It's kinda
sad that these things have to be repeated because Trumplican refuse to face
reality and read thee report.
Mr. trump acts like he is guilty.People who are innocent do not act
like trump.The USAG is supposed to do the things he promised to do
when he was sworn in.The USAG is not supposed to be the POTUS
defense attorney.Sunlight is a great dis-infectant.In
this day and age...sadly...few people take the time to do any research outside
of faux and friends.Let the Democratic members of Congress expose to
sunlight, in a format, even trump can understand, the deeds of his
maladministration.Let trumpublicans be satisfied with their 30
pieces of silver.Americans want to know exactly what happened
without the obfuscation of barr's 4 page memo/propaganda/misrepresentation
of a 448 page report.
"Democrats need to learn the difference between opinion and
evidence!"This is a classic. Given how Right Wing Media outlets
put out debunked conspiracy theories (PizzaGate!), this is hard to stomach.
Rather, this comments yet again the projection that Republicans make on
Democrats. It is the Republicans that can't see how much fact out there
disproves their faith in the President, that shows Trump eschews truth as does
Dracula avoid garlic and believe that their political opposites do as they do
(fail to discern opinion from fact)."They just couldn't
find collusion or obstruction"Another gem of Trump apologists.
Speak a little truth, then swamp that truth with a bald faced untruth.
Collusion is not a legal term, and the Mueller report found no "illegal"
actions by the Trump campaign's curious engagement with Russian spies.
However, Mueller's report details cases of obstruction that should be
investigated further. Mueller, ever the good soldier and Republican, weaseled
his way out of an obstruction charge based on the Justice Department guideline
(not a law) that a President can not be indicted. He "referred" the
obstruction charges to the House for impeachment.
This Report should be mandatory reading in all civics and history classes this
Seriously, the Democrats are going to change any minds with their spin on
information we've had for weeks? I doubt it.The Democrats
should cut bait and run and get back to worrying about legislation they should
be considering and not the dead horse they are still beating in regards to
Trump.I hope that at some point, some Democrat loses the popular
vote while winning the electoral vote, then the Republicans can spend four
years undercutting that president with unwarranted investigations. Won't
happen, but we can hope.
Donald J. Trump and 18 of his associates had at least 140 contacts with Russian
nationals during the 2016 campaign and presidential transition, according to a
New York Times analysis.The Mueller Report revealed at least 30 more
contacts beyond those previously known. Among the contacts are
in-person meetings, phone calls, text messages, emails and private messages on
social media platforms.Aras Agalarov, a Russian billionaire who
hosted a Miss Universe pageant with Mr. Trump in Moscow, and the
billionaire’s son, Emin, reached out to Mr. Trump several times.
(Separately, both men helped arrange the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting to get
damaging information about Hillary Clinton.)Mr. Trump was
also pursuing a plan to build a Trump Tower in Moscow and was repeatedly invited
to an economic forum in St. Petersburg, Russia, that would be attended by
President Vladimir V. Putin.Why would Trump be in contact with
Russians? (Hillary had zero contact with Russia.)
This article has a "spin" in the title. It says Democrats begin
"public airing of Mueller report".But the Mueller report has been
publicly available for download for weeks now. I know because I downloaded it
and read it. What is really happening is that the Democrats are beginning
a "public spinning and taking quotes out of context" campaign. Extracted directly from the Report:The investigation did not establish
any agreement among Campaign officials or between such officials and
Russia-linked individuals-to interfere with or obstruct a lawful function of a
government agency during the campaign or transition period. And, as discussed in
Volume I, Section V.A, supra, the investigation did not identify evidence that
any Campaign official or associate knowingly and intentionally participated in
the conspiracy to defraud that the Office charged, namely, the active-measures
conspiracy described in Volume I, Section II, supra. Accordingly, the Office did
not charge any Campaign associate or other U.S. person with conspiracy to
defraud the United States based on the Russia-related contacts described in
Section IV above.
Democrats charged taxpayers 25 million dollars for opposition research.
There's no other way to view the Mueller report. And these hearings are the
Why do some folks treat the Mueller report as honest? An honest piece of work?
He and his team of investigators are all anti Trumpers wanting him
out of office.They just couldn't find collusion or obstruction,
but it doesn't mean they didn't put as much rubbish as possible into
Some commenters on here claimed that the Mueller report contains evidence of
President Trump's wrongdoing. But they never tell us what that evidence is!
Please by all means, tell us what evidence you find. Don't bloviate
don't make stuff up give us the evidence. Crickets.
Utefan60You are doing the same thing as those you are accusing.
There is a huge difference to how the stock market was doing during Obama's
first two years and how the economy was doing for people who had to pay their
bills. Go look at the unemployment and wage earning during those years compared
to today. Don't be like Fox News and CNN and give part of the truth.
2 LikeReportn8ive american - Shelley, Idaho3grandslams - Eagle
Mountain, UTThid Barker - Victor, IDhigh school fan -
Huntington, UTI suggest these people read the report. Had they read
it they would not have comments in this blog that they have. No one could
regurgitate the low information Fox News sound bites if they had truly read the
report.And high school, most Americans still believe in honesty,
morality , and decency and do not support Trump's actions. His dishonesty,
his mockery and his illigal behaviors are not accepted by decent thinking
citizens. Also, Americans enjoyed an amazing economy under President
Obama. In fact we did better in the stock market for the same period of time.
Much better return under President Obama.Yes, honest people still
do care. Maybe you don't, but most real patriotic Americans do!
It appears that to get people to read the Mueller Report, we need to have it
written more for the people who have difficulty plowing through a 448 page tome
that is filled with legalese and argument and simplify it for everyone. This
could be done with a hearing and having Robert Mueller testifying for an entire
week, but that might not even reach the typical Trumpie who refuses to believe
anything critical of Donald Trump and hold his/her attention.What we
need is a graphic novel (comic book, if you will) designed for adults like the
Manga so favored by the Japanese. We will have drawings of the various
characters speaking the words they actually are recorded saying in the Mueller
Report but the combination of words and graphic depictions of witnesses should
grab the reader's attention.Just consider, Trump, his face
contorted in rage ordering the presidential attorney to go tell Attorney General
Jeff Sessions to shut down the Mueller investigation. A series of frames
visualizing the event will be much more powerful than the black words on a white
page. Think about the exaggerated, cartoon-like characters with the real words
appearing in bubble-form over . . . [more]1 of 2
2 of 2 [continued]. . . their heads taking us through the
investigation? It would make the entire report come alive for the reader with
both entertainment and informational value.Perhaps a better way to
convey the message might be an animated feature, but that would require more
effort although it surely would capture the average Trumpie's attention
being both active with a "who-done-it" plot and characters in motion
coupled with the information that might easily be ignored by a unwilling
reader.Both would be far more powerful than the actual report that
even Republican congresspeople are reported not to have read. As Justin Amash,
(R, MI) noted, if Republicans read the report and refused to depend on AG
William Barr's misrepresentation, they would have no other option than to
recommend impeachment. It's a no brainer, but it requires reading the
entire report.It should also be noted that if the Mueller Report was
converted over to a graphic novel format (even better, an animated feature),
Trump may be induced to read/see it and have a better understanding about how
much more is know about conspiracy (insufficient evidence where much more is
exists) and obstruction.
I have forever tried to avoid calling this a witch-hunt. After reading this
article, I can’t think of a better term. I am so tired of this effort to
destroy Trump. I don’t feel I have a choice any more between Republicans
or Democrats. The democratic leadership has destroyed all confidence that they
really want to work within the system created by then founding fathers of our
country. Their personal agenda is not the American people. I thought at one time
it was. The only thing discovered investigating Trump is length
Democrats went to fabricate evidence. This chapter in American politics is worse
than Watergate or Macarthyism.
It’s already public... you can go online and read the whole thingHeadline should be:Democrats continue their spin on Mueller report
thid, I have asked several times for you to answer one question : Have YOU
actually read the Mueller Report?If you would make an effort to
actually read it, you would see immediately how wrong your comments have been
and how "opinions" are nowhere to be found in it -- except when Mueller
writes that he felt he could not actually indict a sitting president due to a
DOJ policy that was shoved through by Republicans as they tried to defend
Richard Nixon.PLEASE read the report and then get back to us.
Bob Mueller, a war hero, has devoted his life's work to the devotion and
the protection of this country. His reputation and his honor is above
reproach.Trump, a draft dodger, has spent his life blundering
businesses, filing bankruptcies, duping people out of billions of dollars and
lying to the American people.Thid, you are being duped by a New York
City Slicker, a former liberal, and a draft dodger. FACT!
@LOU Montana - Pueblo, COJune 9, 2019 9:33 a.m."Waste of time!
Trump people no see.Trump people no hear.Trump people no
care.The proof, the truth, the facts? NEVER!This is ancient Rome."You're right, it's a waste of
time. Democrats don't care for truth, otherwise they would have never
started an "investigation" based on a known fake Russian dossier.What proof? Do you have some insider information that no one else has? Even
Mueller stated that no collusion happened.Pelosi people no see.Pelosi people no hear.Pelosi people no care.The proof, the
truth, the facts? Provide them. No one else has.
Democrats need to learn the difference between opinion and evidence! The Mueller
report had no evidence but lots of his group's opinions. Opinions, no
matter whose they are, are not evidence! That's how our justice system in
America works. In some banana republics, the ruling class's (Nancy and
Chuck's) opinions matter, but not in America!
LOU, I'm afraid you may be right.But as one who has read
virtually all of the report, I find it very hard to believe that anyone with
even an ounce of intelligence could continue to deny it if it were to be spelled
out for them.However, as you said, they simply will refuse to pay
attention.I'm sure they are good people. But just as there
were some who fell for trump's fraudulent "university" and enrolled
to try to better their lives, too many of our fellow Americans became desperate
enough to fall for the blatantly false hopes that trump spread before them in
his campaign. ( That, and the ugly fact that the Democrats forced us to choose
between him and Hillary -- probably the ONLY American who could not have beaten
the gilded socks off him. )It's nauseating. But,
happily, America isn't dead.Not yet, at least . . . .
It's good to get the information out there.
Why do Democrats continue down this line when the American people really
don’t care? We care about the economy and 70% of us Americans are happy
with the economy
Some folks place total trust in:* main stream media--the words of
commentators they don't even know. * liberal politicians* and
a Mueller report put together by a bias Trump hating set of liberals.Simply amazing! Opinions based on rubbish!
Trump and his sycophants have vowed to block all subpoenas, at any cost. When Obama took office, on the same day McConnell and other Republicans
said they would block all of Obama's goals.Republicans
aren't interested in government or the country. They are only interested in
their self-serving powers and wealth.Didn't Trump say he wouldl
be the most transparent President, ever?Chalk that up as one of the
thousands of lies he's told since being in office.
A defender of the President says to his Democratic House colleagues: "it is
out of order for a member of Congress, in debate, to engage in personalities
with the president or express an opinion, even a third party opinion, accusing
the president of a crime."Isn't out of order for the
President to engage in personality assassinations against those who criticize
him? Isn't it out of order for the President to lead "lock her up"
chants aimed at Mrs Clinton? Isn't it out of order for the President to
express his completely disproven "opinion" that the Press lies about
him?I am all for disciplined and measured criticism of any public
official. However, the true perpetrator of "out of order" behavior is
the President himself. The GOP defenders need to address that first.
Waste of time! Trump people no see.Trump people no hear.Trump people no care.The proof, the truth, the facts? NEVER!This is ancient Rome.