How the Trump administration's tariff deal with Mexico helps Utah avoid a '$180 million tax increase'

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  • quackquack Park City, UT
    June 12, 2019 11:16 a.m.

    a Few things come to mind here ...

    1. This is a issue created by Trump an issue we should have never had so all Trump did was correct his own wrong and should be shamed for putting us in this situation.

    2. Mexico is right at the Cali Border, how would importing goods from another country be cheaper?? The only alternative would be South America or Asia and the shipping cost alone would be much higher. Learn how NAFTA works

    3. People take a economics course the trade deceit is not a real deficit its not like we own money. The reason we have a deficit is we are importing goods at a very low price this is a good thing since those goods are raw materials used to create larger items.

    If those good are taxed then the larger item costs more and those costs are passed on to the consumer. Think about it the only people who can take the loss are large corporations. I were the CEO that wanted raise my stock price how would I put the smaller shops out of business and force people to buy from my corporation....

  • search diligently Lehi, UT
    June 10, 2019 10:29 a.m.

    The headline is misleading. A tariff would not increase taxes to Utahns. It would, however, increase the prices of products we buy from Mexico.

    And the analysis is wrong here as well. When prices (including tariffs) go up on goods from one country, some of the products are imported from different countries instead... at lower prices than the price paid if all products were still imported from Mexico. The net effect would mean prices go up, but not necessarily by the $180 suggested here. Apparently, the author here could use a refresh on an economics course.

  • Sandy Salt Lake City, UT
    June 10, 2019 7:58 a.m.

    Misleading headline. Seems to say Trump did something heroic especially for us.

    It should say something like:
    “How the Trump administration's averted tariff deal with Mexico would have caused Utah a '$180 million tax increase'”

    Trump’s methods seem effective. But what a social stench they create. Heaven, please send someone who can disburse these kinds of results without disbursing the Trump aroma.

  • Lilly Munster , 00
    June 10, 2019 7:42 a.m.

    Could we just be more honest and humane by not repeating the slander that Latino Immigrants "all bring drugs, crime and disease" to our Nation? The vast majority of these desperate, unfortunate and destitute people are just decent people. Just like our ancestors who came to this country, because they had the determination to make a better, safer life for their children, and had every right to. Our Constitution and our laws have not changed: the invitation that our great grand parents and other relatives accepted is the SAME invitation to "your tired, your poor, your wretched refuse yearning to be free." It still applies: immigration is still is the backbone of our Citizenry. Or is it just because they are not white Protestants?

  • worf McAllen, TX
    June 9, 2019 10:54 a.m.

    Securing our southern border will save many American lives because of reduced drug & human trafficking.

    This is either worth a tax increase, or better yet,--improved financial management.

  • LadyMoon Pittsburgh, PA
    June 8, 2019 8:45 p.m.

    Another WIN-WIN for Trump. And this time, a big win also for Utah! Thank-you, again, President Trump!
    MAGA: Trump: 2020!

  • Lilly Munster , 00
    June 8, 2019 6:50 p.m.

    Please remember, those massive tax cuts benefited not only Corporations, but a whole lot of Millionaires and Billionaires. The richer your are, the lesser your actual tax rate. Worse, the corporate tax cuts did NOT promote businesses investing in more jobs, moving their manufacturing back from China (the rate of moving jobs overseas increased, just ask the people whom Trump lied to about that) or even R&D. Here's an example: Amazon had profits of $400 BILLION in 2018, and not only paid NO taxes, but actually got I.R.S. Refunds. How is that fair and equal to a working family in the middle class having their deductions eliminated or decreased, as well as their actual (average) refunds......decreased by about 7%?
    Here's a fact that we have to confess to: Our immediate family has four businesses, which are U.S. corporations. We work hard, and conduct our businesses honestly, but none of our businesses have had to pay one red cent in Federal taxes, for the last 37 years. Not one red cent. We make up for that inequity by giving our employees big fat bonus checks, even though we don't have to. Ironically, it gives our businesses even MORE deductions.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    June 8, 2019 5:10 p.m.

    Hey Christams Carole -

    Re: "The end result desired was reached. I am satisfied. "

    WRONG . . . Trump LIED to you again, and you bought it . . AGAIN.

    “The deal to avert tariffs that President Trump announced with great fanfare on Friday night consists largely of actions that Mexico had already promised to take in prior discussions with the United States over the past several months, according to officials from both countries who are familiar with the negotiations.” - New York Times

  • rexwhitmer , 00
    June 8, 2019 5:00 p.m.

    Tariff's protect the citizen of the nation setting them. Yes, the cost may go up slightly, but look at the reality of the situation. China, India, and other nations have invented or developed little if any the products we import from them. Largely the inventor, be it the individual or the producer, designs or invents the product. Then countries whom are developed enough to handle the equipment used to produce the product are called in. Now inventors or designers like to be repaid for the product they develop or invent, but the producer greedily takes the product to a low wage payer nation, whom incorporates what would be termed slave labor in the USA, to produce the product! Yes, this lowers the cost in the inventor's nation, but the producer now knows how to produce the product, so they begin selling it to other nations, paying nothing to the developing nation. They actually often just change the name of the company and sell it back to the developing nation, thereby reducing any profits that might have been earned there! Laborers in places like China, Korea, India are treated more like slaves than laborers. They work ten hour days, every day, no time off.

  • Oh Really? Salt Lake City, UT
    June 8, 2019 4:34 p.m.

    “That would mean fewer jobs opportunities in Mexico, making the incentive to cross the border even stronger for migrants whose economic realities would worsen in a trade war.”

    Mr. Lee and Ms. Kaufman,

    The intent of the tariff was to require Mexico to stop acting as a freeway, and shore up their own southern border so people from central and South America didn’t just bypass Mexico and take a perilous trip through their entire country, border to border, to come to the US. The tariffs don’t affect those people and their country.

    I’m impressed that Trump actually HAS around a way for “Mexico to pay for” a barrier to illegal immigration. While I personally am in favor of lots and lots of legal immigration, illegal immigration is fraught with hazards for immigrants and for our country.

  • Laura Bilington Maple Valley, WA
    June 8, 2019 4:18 p.m.

    @3grandslams wrote,

    "I’d like to see what illegal immigration cost tax payers. I’m sure it’s much more expensive than the tariffs would had cost"

    Well, the talking heads on Fox News are certainly not going to tell you.

    The largest amount of money that immigrants "cost" the country is for the education of their children, most of whom are American citizens. We have a labor shortage already--are you suggesting we should deport 10 million people (and their citizen children) who are working (and paying taxes) right now? Who's going to pay for YOUR Social Security when you retire?

    If you need your roof replaced or your lawn mowed or your burgers flipped or your elderly folk cared for--the odds are close to certainty that an immigrant--legal or not-- is going be the one doing it.

    The number of slots for legal immigration is wa-a-ay too low. It's silly to say that the number of slots is all we can manage--we've been managing double that every year, and we could manage it a lot better if these people could come out of the shadows.

    Within If this is honestly about taxes...then we should be praising Trump.

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  • 1aggie Salt Lake City, UT
    June 8, 2019 4:00 p.m.

    The tax cut has caused companies to invest right now in new equipment etc because they can immediately right-off the cost. However, (as with other provisions of the tax cut), that benefit goes away Dec 31 2022.

    Whichever party controls Congress and/or the Presidency as these and many other tax provisions expire will be blamed for raising taxes and “slowing the economy.”

    The tax cut passed by Republicans has added infinitely more complexity for corporations. (according to U.S. international tax experts). It has also added substantially to the national debt. Sooner or later a reckoning will
    come due.

    The jury is still out in regard to if and how much the tax cut resulted in higher wages.

  • Back Talk Federal Way, WA
    June 8, 2019 2:59 p.m.

    This 180 million is an "annual" amount. I dont think these tariffs would have been in place for a year.

    Let give Trump credit for trying to fix the disaster that exists with illegal immigration rather than just giving up.

  • Laura Bilington Maple Valley, WA
    June 8, 2019 2:11 p.m.

    @Harrison Bergeron wrote,

    "Somehow those taxes are just going to be taken from a large imaginary pile of money stashed in the basements of these corporations leaving the consumer untouched. "

    The tax cuts that the big corporations reaped---at the expense of trillions added to the national debt--were NOT re-invested in machinery (except automation--resulting in fewer jobs) or building expansions or hired employees. They were used to buy back company stock. And yes, that is a pile of certificates--NOT imaginary--in the safes of those corporations.

    The consumers did not see price reductions. Did you seriously expect them to?

  • Harrison Bergeron Salt Lake City, UT
    June 8, 2019 1:05 p.m.

    unrepentant progressive: “why did consumer prices not go down when corporate tax rates are lowered?”

    Because corporations chose to spend the money on R&D and employee wages and benefits (including new employees). This is why the economy is roaring, wages are up and unemployment is down.

  • Harrison Bergeron Salt Lake City, UT
    June 8, 2019 1:04 p.m.

    unrepentant progressive: “Do you believe that any given business has a right to a certain % of profit? At the core of your argument is this assumption.”

    The core of my argument is that businesses are in business to make a profit. And the ones who don’t aren’t around very long. And a corporation’s profits go to a finite number of places:

    1)Research and development of new products.
    2)Operational costs (i.e. employee wages and benefits, advertising, taxes, materials, etc.).
    3)Share holder dividends.

    When you tax a corporation, they are going to make up for it in cutting back on R&D and operational costs or raising prices. Cutting operational costs usually means employees will be cut; their benefits will be cut or both. If they can still remain competitive, they will raise the price of their product. Generally what we have seen is they move their operations to India and China where the cost of labor is significantly lower. Of course this causes the democrats to lose their minds and seek to punish the “the greedy corporations” by raising their taxes even more. And the cycle continues and results in an Obama economy where “those jobs are never coming back.”

  • direct_consent Logan, UT
    June 8, 2019 12:06 p.m.

    This Mexican tariff was not caused by President Trump it was caused by our American congress that will not do it's job!!! Did we have any Utah congressman come up with a bill to change immigration law or money for the WALL?? NO - President Trump is the only person that is protecting the American people!!!

  • Christmas Carole Hurricane, UT
    June 8, 2019 11:51 a.m.

    The end result desired was reached. I am satisfied.
    "I am pleased to inform you that The United States of America has reached a signed agreement with Mexico," President Trump tweeted. "The Tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S. on Monday, against Mexico, are hereby indefinitely suspended. Mexico, in turn, has agreed to take strong measures to stem the tide of Migration through Mexico, and to our Southern Border. This is being done to greatly reduce, or eliminate, illegal immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States. Details of this agreement will be released shortly by the State Department. Thank you!"

  • K Mchenry, IL
    June 8, 2019 11:42 a.m.

    I’m thrilled we are not giving the UN billions more to mismanage by getting out fo the Paris accord. Our water and air are the cleanest in the world. I’m glad we are not giving billions to countries that treat their people so poorly. Why are we paying for everything on the planet. We pay more than 2% of GDP for NATO. We pay the most for the UN of any other country and they hate US and allies like Israel. Why? It’s insane. The trade imbalance has been nuts for decades. If the dems would just build the wall already. Canada can’t manage 2% GDP for NATO. They have been exporting trash to the Philippines and have been avoiding taking it back for years. They are not strong or environmentally friendly. They are also not flying people from the big three into Canada. They don’t do chain migration. They do a merit based system. I wish the press would read up on watergate cause they would a whole new appreciation for how the dems acted in 2016.

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    June 8, 2019 10:10 a.m.

    @thid

    Republicans never cut spending. Why is that? They always cut taxes which just compounds the deficit. Where is your outrage over the trillion dollar deficit in “good” times. Speaking of good times it’s all an illusion. My neighbor can look successful going into debt. I guess we are getting what we deserve with the debt and bankrupt king.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    June 8, 2019 9:35 a.m.

    M Bergeron

    You seem to think that a tax on profits affects final consumer pricing as much as does a tariff.

    Do you believe that any given business has a right to a certain % of profit? At the core of your argument is this assumption. It is only by this logic that you can presume to say that a tax on profits costs consumers.

    Any tariff is a direct expense to consumers, should the business pass on the extra cost of goods to the consumer. But explain how a tax on profits, that $ left after all expenses and accounting trickery is a direct expense to consumers.

    Profits are corporate earnings, and represent an analogous tax to earned income, which most of us pay without question. Each and every American pays sales tax and indirectly the cost of tariffs not absorbed in their earnings by corporations. They are not even remotely related.

    I know it is a favorite talking point of Conservatives to claim that we all pay higher prices for goods when corporate tax rates go up. That is malarkey. For if it would be so, then why did consumer prices not go down when corporate tax rates are lowered (as in Trump's Tax Treats for corporations in 2017)?

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    June 8, 2019 9:29 a.m.

    Hey Cougarbib 2 -

    Re: “The US is on the wrong end of some severely unbalanced trade agreements and President Trump is trying to make them more balanced and he is refusing to continue to subsidize countries that are not acting like friends to the US.”

    Under Trump’s leadership, International trade is more detrimental to the U.S. than ever before. Our trade deficit is the highest ever.

    As America loses friends and allies, Trump busily buys votes with taxpayer money. The billions of dollars going to farmers impacted by foreign retribution to Trump’s tariffs is coming right out of the U.S. treasury and going directly into the pockets of Trump supporters. Rural America overwhelmingly supports Trump, and now the rest of America has to give Trump supporters more tax dollars than ever before.

    That is anti-American. AND it’s anti-Darwinism.

    The fittest and the smartest should survive and thrive. But Trump’s subsidies encourage the opposite. The people unwise enough to support Trump should feel the negative effects of their bad choices, don’t you think? Otherwise, how will they ever learn?

    As other nation surge ahead, America regresses into backwardness.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    June 8, 2019 9:23 a.m.

    Interesting isn't it? The Trump administration, through pure malfeasance, contributed heavily to the current illegal immigration border. And now Trump supporters are praising him because he called off a tax hike supposedly designed to curb the problem he helped cause.

    All Hail Trump!

    Trump eliminated all financial support for Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala that helped stem the power of gangs who intimate millions into fleeing for their lives. Trump's constant blather and his dire threats encourage refugees to flood to the United States and seek refuge here while that window of opportunity remains open. And now the Trump administration is doing NOTHING to fix the asylum process at the border. This means that refugees cannot legally seek asylum once they get to checkpoints along our southern border, and their only recourse is to cross the border illegally.

    Republicans call that "winning."

  • charrette Provo, UT
    June 8, 2019 9:19 a.m.

    Don’t give the Trump administration credit for averting the tariffs HE invented and threatened. He succumbed to pressure from everyone—including his own party—because, as the article states, it would have cost us a fortune.

  • casual observer Salt Lake City, UT
    June 8, 2019 9:08 a.m.

    It wasn't pretty, but it was effective. Trump's rough wooing of Mexico avoided tariffs and convinced them that US border crashing is not neighborly policy. One wonders what would have happened about the border crisis, probably nothing, if he had not used a heavy hand.

  • casual observer Salt Lake City, UT
    June 8, 2019 9:08 a.m.

    It wasn't pretty, but it was effective. Trump's rough wooing of Mexico avoided tariffs and convinced them that US border crashing is not neighborly policy. One wonders what would have happened about the border crisis, probably nothing, if he had not used a heavy hand.

  • What in Tucket Provo, UT
    June 8, 2019 9:04 a.m.

    IT is simple those of us who want immigrants passed and screened through a legal immigration system like what Trump has done and it seems like it may have worked. As for Smoot and the depression. The depression preceded the Smoot bill by 9 months.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    June 8, 2019 8:56 a.m.

    @LilOne

    Oh, Mexico IS paying for the wall.

    But, it is doing it in "installments" every day of the year.

    😀

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    June 8, 2019 8:53 a.m.

    @Daed

    Thank you, sir, for the compliment.

    So proud to be a "Trump/Republican".

    🤸😀🤸

  • MacD slc, UT
    June 8, 2019 8:45 a.m.

    Trump knows that trade tariffs are one of the most effective levers he can use to change the unfair behaviors of our trading partners. He has used tariffs skillfully. He generally has only had to threaten the use of tariffs to accomplish a more fair trade agreement.

  • Joan Watson Twin Falls, ID
    June 8, 2019 8:33 a.m.

    I have a question. How much will it cost the United States and its citizens, now and in the future, if illegal immigration, is not stopped?

  • cmsense Kaysville, UT
    June 8, 2019 8:31 a.m.

    Does anyone else get tired of Trump's tarif threats? When all those chinese goods go up in price 25% who is going to be celebrating?

    The great negotiator or the great antagonist?

  • shamrock Salt Lake City, UT
    June 8, 2019 8:26 a.m.

    More political theater from our drama queen of a president. Trump is like that guy who always throws Thanksgiving dinner into chaos and uproar. After a while, you learn to not pay so much attention.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    June 8, 2019 7:44 a.m.

    Interesting isn't it? The Trump administration, through pure malfeasance, contributed heavily to the current illegal immigration border. And now Trump supporters are praising him because he called off a tax hike supposedly designed to curb the problem he helped cause.

    All Hail Trump!

    Trump eliminated all financial support for Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala that helped stem the power of gangs who intimate millions into fleeing for their lives. And now the Trump administration is doing NOTHING to fix the asylum process at the border. This means that refugees cannot legally seek asylum once they get to our southern border, and their only recourse is to cross the border illegally.

    Republicans call that "Winning."

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    June 8, 2019 7:43 a.m.

    Amazing that Democrats, who never met a tax they don't love, are pretending to care about people being taxed. And this from a party where not one Democrat in Congress voted for President Trump's tax cut!

  • 3grandslams Eagle Mountain, UT
    June 8, 2019 7:35 a.m.

    Cost to American tax payers for illegal immigration, 116 billion. Every estimate even by Trump haters is in the billions.

    Mexico is now spending their own money to help stem illegal immigration. Thank you Donald Trump.

  • Jeff Harris Edmonds, WA
    June 8, 2019 7:23 a.m.

    Where is the evidence that Mexico actually ceded anything to Donald Trump as a result of his latest, wildly unpopular, self-manufactured crisis?

  • 3grandslams Eagle Mountain, UT
    June 8, 2019 7:18 a.m.

    I’d like to see what illegal immigration cost tax payers. I’m sure it’s much more expensive than the tariffs would had cost taxpayers. If this is honestly about taxes...then we should be praising Trump.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    June 8, 2019 6:43 a.m.

    "...critics on the left and right..." (from the article) oppose virtually EVERYTHING this President tries to do.

    Good thing there are not enough of them to keep him from getting re-elected.

  • Daedalus, Stephen Arvada, CO
    June 8, 2019 6:34 a.m.

    Trump/Republicans remind me of my kids' middle school years, when conjured dramas came and went like Spring storms.

    January 2021 cannot come soon enough.

  • Red Smith , 00
    June 8, 2019 6:29 a.m.

    We pay a lot more that $180 million due to Mexico's abuse of the US with hundreds of billions in illegal drugs, lost blue collar jobs to Mexico, human trafficking, etc.

    Mexico has been taking advantage of the US for decades. When Mexico and the cartels profiteer off of the illegal alien trade, the illegal drug trade, their profit is paid by us in hidden costs.

    Mexico and China are no friends of the United States. Prior spineless presidents like Bush, Clinton, Obama, let other county plunder our nation. May God continue to bless and protect President Trump - a man raised up for our day.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    June 8, 2019 5:25 a.m.

    Hats off to Trump is he really pulled a deal with Mexico to have them slow down those transiting the country to reach the US. Let's hope the deal holds. It's a complex issue asking another country to close their border to its neighboring country. This is not the solution to the problem, but its a pretty good bandaid.

    Well see where this goes.

  • dmacpherson Salt Lake City, UT
    June 8, 2019 5:09 a.m.

    Trump has saved us from a crisis he created.

  • FanOfTheSith Vernal, UT
    June 8, 2019 2:49 a.m.

    Oh darn. I bet the majority Utah's GOP wasn't happy about an excuse to increase taxes, gets taken away...... LOL!

  • Yuge Opportunity Here Mapleton, UT
    June 8, 2019 2:31 a.m.

    Let's see. 180/3 is $60 per Utahn.

    The market, if left alone, will adapt. Over time, it might even mean more local jobs and more local products.

    Or, people would move from Utah to Mexico because it would be to their advantage. That would create a buyers' market, reducing the cost to buy a home in Utah, something sorely needed.

    When the data comes from an organization named World Trade, one would expect the worst. Other groups might calculate differently. No one can reliably check your work.

  • LilOne Nezperce, ID
    June 8, 2019 2:19 a.m.

    When is Mexico sending the check to pay for the wall?

  • Golden Rules Okay, OK
    June 8, 2019 12:23 a.m.

    If you threaten to jump off a 20 story building and the police tell you they will give you a ride home and promise to help you work things out with your job so you agree not to jump . . . . can you really call that making a deal?

  • Lilly Munster , 00
    June 7, 2019 11:35 p.m.

    That's the usual pattern failure with Trump. He proposes something irrational, often in an off-the-cuff rant, demonizes any opposition (even within his party and Cabinet Members) then demands that both Republicans and Democrats go along with him, or they are his enemies. He is a lot like any dictator: disagree with him, and he will gut you with vile personal attacks. Republicans often have to "handle him." Most of Trump's so Executive Decisions have been defeated and repudiated by Judges. He repeats the accusation "16 angry Democrats," but in fact, most of the Judicial defeats he has earned has been by Republican Judges, often in the most so called Conservative Courts. Day after day, all Americans wake up to his latest irrational and often vile tweets. Take heart. He cannot be re-elected with the continuing disapproval rating. You cannot win an election with only 32% of Nationwide voter approval. Expect him to become even more irrational, combative, dishonest, angry and afraid as his day of legal accountability approaches. Read the Muller Report. Be very careful that you are not teaching your children to compromise on moral values.

  • Golden Rules Okay, OK
    June 7, 2019 11:29 p.m.

    Trump didn't help us avoid the "$180 million tax increase". He is the one that suggested that the tariffs happen in the first place.

  • WallE Walla Walla, WA
    June 7, 2019 11:23 p.m.

    The tariffs have benefited 12,000 steel workers who are working overtime to make steel with a significant increase in their cost and profit. The rest of us are paying about 25% more for steel goods and 10% more for aluminum goods. I just priced some aluminum irrigation pipe and fittings, and the price increases were staggering.

    For those "Trumpers" who think tariffs Make America Great (Again) do a little reading about the Hawley-Smoot tariff and it's short term boom and long term bust. To entice you a little, Smoot was from Utah and wanted to protect the sugar industry.

  • Harrison Bergeron Salt Lake City, UT
    June 7, 2019 10:56 p.m.

    ‘"Pretty much any tax gets paid partly by the producer and partly by the consumer," he explained. When the price of a good is increased due to the tariff, the company paying the tax typically passes that cost onto the consumer.’

    It’s so weird how the liberal media can understand this when the discussion is about Trump tariffs, but not when the discussion is about the government taxing business. For some weird reason the consumer is never identified as the payer of those taxes. There is some kind of a mind-warp that takes place when democrats start hollering “about rich corporations paying their fair share.” Somehow those taxes are just going to be taken from a large imaginary pile of money stashed in the basements of these corporations leaving the consumer untouched. And yet, we read this statement, and it seems pretty obvious they understand how it works.

    Very weird.

  • Cougarbib2 Moorpark, CA
    June 7, 2019 10:15 p.m.

    Mexico seems to clearly understand who would be hurt most by the tariffs. I do not understand why so many Americans seem to be confused about it.

    Same story in China and China knows it. But once again certain segments of US society seem confused about it.

    Canada understood it.

    Europe is starting to pay a bigger share of their defense costs.

    The US is on the wrong end of some severely unbalanced trade agreements and President Trump is trying to make them more balanced and he is refusing to continue to subsidize countries that are not acting like friends to the US.

    Sanctions on N Korea and Iran and Cuba. Same reasoning. Those hurt both sides, but hurt the other side more and will bring changes in behavior.

  • Cougarbib2 Moorpark, CA
    June 7, 2019 10:15 p.m.

    Mexico seems to clearly understand who would be hurt most by the tariffs. I do not understand why so many Americans seem to be confused about it.

    Same story in China and China knows it. But once again certain segments of US society seem confused about it.

    Canada understood it.

    Europe is starting to pay a bigger share of their defense costs.

    The US is on the wrong end of some severely unbalanced trade agreements and President Trump is trying to make them more balanced and he is refusing to continue to subsidize countries that are not acting like friends to the US.

    Sanctions on N Korea and Iran and Cuba. Same reasoning. Those hurt both sides, but hurt the other side more and will bring changes in behavior.

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    June 7, 2019 10:05 p.m.

    Utah is way too dependent on Imports from Mexico. Time to diversify.

    Despite the deal, Michigan's automakers have suspended all new investment in Mexico for at least 2 years and probably much much longer.

    Trump’s most lasting legacy? So far...China and Mexico are no longer the flavors of the month for imports into the US. Trump has fundamentally altered global trade flows for the next 5 to 10 years.