Guest opinion: What if Congress were in charge, not Trump?

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  • n8ive american Shelley, Idaho
    June 11, 2019 12:48 p.m.

    @Impartial7 - DRAPER, UT
    June 9, 2019 2:18 p.m.
    "The GOP Congress has ceded it's power to the dictator wanna-be in the White House. They all fail to uphold their oaths to the Constitution and the American people. They need replacing with patriots."

    Your real dictator was obama who stated that he could do whatever he wanted with his pen and phone, and enacted many unconstitutional EOs. Today's democrats have no idea how to uphold their oaths to the Constitution and the American people. So yes, THEY need replacing with true patriots.

  • RedShirtCalTech Pasedena, CA
    June 11, 2019 8:15 a.m.

    To "pragmatistferlife" umm.....remember King George. He was the head of the Government. The whole revolutionary war was about the government being too big and too intrusive. If you read the Constitution, it limits what government can do. How else do you explain the articles of Confederation being so close to anarchy that they didn't form a cohesive government?

  • SC Matt Saline, MI
    June 11, 2019 5:40 a.m.

    @unrepentent progressive:

    "First, the "he did it first" claim that Republicans only do what Democrats have done. "

    The logical deconstruction of what you're saying is that I can never mention the past, and hence never learn from it. Luckily, I don't care who did it first. I just want it to stop.

    "When the ACA (Obamacare) was proposed, the GOP refused to engage in the process of legislation."

    No different than some things Democrats have done. You surely don't need a list, do you?

    But again, I only want things to get better. And by "better" I don't mean, as you seem to, that "I just want my side to win all of the contests."

    No, by "better" I mean "I want Congress to do its job, and pass legislation that takes into account priorities of both sides."

    The entire premise of why "diversity" is good is that it allows multiple viewpoints to be represented, and thus a superior solution is developed. Congress should be able to do this. They have the structure to do this.

    But they can't, because right now, their are pretty much only three people who matter in making new laws: The President, the Senate Majority Leader, and the Speaker of the House.

  • pragmatistferlife Salt Lake City, UT
    June 10, 2019 4:34 p.m.

    "To "pragmatistferlife" you are wrong. The US was founded on the idea that Government was the problem. That is why they adopted the Articles of Confederation, and those failed because they went too far on making the government small. They had to fix that with the Constitution, "

    That has to be one of the weirdest ideas ever..I mean ever. Neither the Articles of Confederation or the Constitution were created with the idea that "government was the problem"...was the problem?

    They may have different approaches to governing, but neither thought government (let me paraphrase) was the problem with America or the world.

    That's solely the creation of late 20th century Republicans, (not conservatives).

    Not even the idea of small government claims government "is" the problem.

    Weird, just weird.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, UT
    June 10, 2019 2:02 p.m.

    @Frozen Fractals - Salt Lake City, UT
    June 10, 2019 9:50 a.m.,

    If you would read the Constitution, you would understand that the Senate is under no time limit to consider the President's recomendation of a Supreme Court Justice. Furthermore, the President is required to get the advice of the Senate before the Senate even considers a nominee. That's right there for everyone to read in the Constitution.

    As for Nunes talking with the Executive Branch, please show me in the Constitution where members of Congress are forbidden to talk with the Executive Branch or to inform the Executive Branch of things occuring in Congress.

    So far, all you've proven is that the last Congress followed the law as writen. If you think that The Constitution was violated, then take your case to court. That's why we have a Supreme Court. I would suggest that you study the Constitution first. The Court cannot rule agains the Constitution.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    June 10, 2019 12:15 p.m.

    That was a long letter to simply tell Congress to get their act together and do your constitutional duties and stop putting those duties off to the POTUS.

    To "Impartial7" name the power that this current congress has given up to Trump. So far Trump has only been using power that were given to the POTUS prior to when he took office.

    To "pragmatistferlife" you are wrong. The US was founded on the idea that Government was the problem. That is why they adopted the Articles of Confederation, and those failed because they went too far on making the government small. They had to fix that with the Constitution, which had more government , but not much more than under the Articles of Confederation.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    June 10, 2019 11:50 a.m.

    "Today's Republicans are no more, and no less, complicit in the downfall of Congress than Democrats were during Obama's and Clinton's terms.

    Neither party is willing to negotiate to get good legislation passed, legislation that benefits the entire country."

    Two comments.

    First, the "he did it first" claim that Republicans only do what Democrats have done. That is not an excuse. Your mother did not accept it and neither should the American public. Secondly, it is demostrably untrue. When the ACA (Obamacare) was proposed, the GOP refused to engage in the process of legislation. Even when it is their very own plan. This is GOP propaganda.

    Secondly, the negotiation false equivalence. GOP intransigence is on full display with the failure to confirm a legitimately nominated Supreme Court justice who had near universal acknowledgement as a "good Judge". It was a pure power play. And let us never forget the intransigence of the GOP leader, Trump, in negotiating with anyone. Democrats like government and are willing to compromise. Not today's GOP.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    June 10, 2019 9:50 a.m.

    @Mike Richards
    "The current Congress, especially the House, mocks the people of America."

    As opposed to the previous Congress where Nunes was passing info to the White House about the investigations? Or the Senate where Mitch McConnell point blank says he'd confirm a Supreme Court justice in an election year with Trump as president while obstructing even having hearings on Garland?

  • Thomas Jefferson Salt Lake City, UT
    June 10, 2019 8:25 a.m.

    The real problem with our congress is their 'need' to be re-elected. They all want to make it a lifetime job with the power entailed. It isnt in their interests to solve problems, but rather keep problems around so they can run on the same thing over and over again.

    Term limits would help.
    Repeal of Citizens United and campaign finance reform would help.
    But the best thing we could do (and I have no idea how to make it happen) would be to have 5 viable parties. The two party system puts all the power in the hands of the extremists and that has been horrible for our country for many years.

  • pragmatistferlife Salt Lake City, UT
    June 10, 2019 8:19 a.m.

    "They are not there to make America great again."

    Well that about says it all for Mike. That has got to be the dumbest motto ever. Talk about how to increase middle class wages, talk about how to run a health care system.....but make America "great", "again"...what does that even mean?

    There are a couple of things that are obviously different from the past. One regardless of the level of "civility" Congress was dedicated to legislating. Two, prior to the early 80's one party and consequentially their representatives, didn't think government "was the problem".

    When one party blocks everything the other party tries to legislate, and then when in power themselves only pass legislation that either destroys government or gives money to the powerful...guess what there's only one place government can act...the executive.

    Everyone cries about civility and an overactive executive, neither is the core problem.

  • Flipphone , 00
    June 10, 2019 8:04 a.m.

    It is the current Democrat control house who is allowing massive illegal immigration to continue, Not President Trump.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, UT
    June 10, 2019 6:47 a.m.

    Who is saying that Congress should be in charge? Who is telling us that the Executive Branch is inferior to the Legislative Branch? Who is trying to exalt their position and degrade the position of another? Who is doing that?

    Isn't that the mantra of those who are trying to impeach the President? Isn't that the party whose DNC funneled money to Steele for a dossier that we have learned was fiction, a dossier that was used as evidence to get a FISA warrant, a dossier that was leaked by "anonymous" people to the New York Times as proof that Trump was dispicable in his actions?

    The Constitution establishes three branches of government, the Legislative, the Executive and the Judicial. They are co-equal in power and in authority. The Legislative makes the laws. The Executive executes the laws and controls the military. The Judical monitors the laws to insure that any law passed by the Legislative Branch is legal under the Constitution.

    The Judical Branch has largely failed its duty, including the ruling on ObamaCare where Chief Justice Roberts wrongly told us that the Legislative Branch has the power to tax us for insurance premiums.

    Follow the Constitution!

  • SC Matt Saline, MI
    June 10, 2019 5:44 a.m.

    @Partial7:

    "The GOP Congress has ceded it's power to the dictator wanna-be in the White House. They all fail to uphold their oaths to the Constitution and the American people. They need replacing with patriots."

    Today's Republicans are no more, and no less, complicit in the downfall of Congress than Democrats were during Obama's and Clinton's terms.

    Neither party is willing to negotiate to get good legislation passed, legislation that benefits the entire country.

    Both parties are simply interested in their segment of society, and anything that helps "the other guy" drives a wedge between the parties, and prevents the kind of unity that will be required if they're to regain their rightful position in the government.

    But your comment gives a clue as to the "why." With partisanship comes dysfunction. When people can only see the good in "their side" and only see the bad in "the adversary" then this is probably the best government we can expect.

    Which is actually kind of sad.

  • EmmanuelGoldstein1984 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 9, 2019 10:20 p.m.

    The author is correct, Congress should be in charge of the government. It's the most democratically-elected branch of government and is thereby most representative of We the People. Two of our three most recent Presidents were elected with fewer votes than their opponents.

    The most representative (democratic) branch of all, despite gerrymandering and voter suppression, is the House of Representatives. Recently, it has done a good job of pushing forward progressive legislation ranging from the Green New Deal to the For the People Act. Unfortunately, the current Senate is a rubber-stamp for the Administration and is blocking everything.

    Clearly, this dysfunctional gridlock will continue until the next election, when -- hopefully! -- the Senate will change hands and Congress will regain its preeminent role in how we are governed.

  • GrainOfSalt Draper, UT
    June 9, 2019 8:05 p.m.

    Very well stated. I agree 100%. Congress has become too risk averse and has nen sidelined as a result. This happened well before Trump came along.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    June 9, 2019 2:18 p.m.

    The GOP Congress has ceded it's power to the dictator wanna-be in the White House. They all fail to uphold their oaths to the Constitution and the American people. They need replacing with patriots.

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    June 9, 2019 2:07 p.m.

    There is little doubt that Congress has forfeited too much power to the Executive Branch over the years. The main reason being that Congress is not one person, but many; and even within each party there is much disagreement. Lately, there are 'hot button' issues which Congress has not been able to reconcile among its members. When one party obtains the majority position in one or more houses, and when a 'hot button' issue is at vote, it can become a dangerous political situation for the nation if a hotly controversial issue with very consequential ramifications is voted along strictly party lines. Let's make sure the country is governed along the lines the founders charted. And presently, we do need to correct to course.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, UT
    June 9, 2019 11:43 a.m.

    Congress can only function as a true Legislative body when it is unified. When it is unified, it is fulfilling it's role as the Representatives of the People and of the States. The current Congress, especially the House, mocks the people of America. It wastes its time and our trust by pretending that its job is to throw out Trump. It needs to clean it own house first. It needs to censure those who speak against our form of government who have broken their oath of office to defend our Constitution..

    If Congress were unified it could pass veto-proof legislation. It is not unified because too many in Congress are there to serve themselves. They are not there to make America great again.

    Congress is its own worst enemy.