Trump says U.S., Mexico reach agreement to prevent tariffs

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  • worf McAllen, TX
    June 9, 2019 10:58 a.m.

    Most people in our world live in poverty.

    What does that say of global leadership?--The ones who want greater control people to save the planet!

  • Mike M Roy, UT
    June 8, 2019 9:14 p.m.

    Thid Barker - Victor, ID
    June 7, 2019 9:16 p.m.

    "This is better than a wall and Mexico is paying for it! President Trump will go down as one of the BEST POTUS in history! Masterfully done, Mr. President Your Democrat challengers stand no chance."

    Thank you Thid, I really needed some comic relief today ;P

  • worf McAllen, TX
    June 8, 2019 5:09 p.m.

    Well, we go again. Trump taking credit for what Obama has started.

  • sman columbia, MS
    June 8, 2019 2:12 p.m.

    President Trump showed Politicians the difference between a doer and a talker. Politicians do nothing but talk about the problem and Trump does somthing about it. That is why I'm voting for Trump in 2020

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    June 8, 2019 2:12 p.m.

    @at long last - "Claiming Trump's foreign policy for the massive invasion of illegals is an absolute non sequitur."

    Actually, we're finding that the State Department was ready to testify to Congress that climate change could have "catastrophic effects", but the White House suppressed that report.

    Right now, some of the migrants from Central America are farmers who can't grow crops anymore, due to extreme weather / climate change. (The opposite problem our own farmers face in being unable to plant crops in lakes formed by flooding.)

    The State Department suppressing intelligence revealing dangers is a foreign policy issue.

    The current trickle of migrants taking extreme measures to come here could become a flood.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    June 8, 2019 2:01 p.m.

    @GrainofSalt - "In his first year, Trump offered amnesty..."

    Really?

    Are you talking about the televised meeting where Sen. Diane Feinstein suggested they pass DACA first and Trump said "sure, let's do it, bring me the bill, I'll sign it", and then Rep Kevin McCarthy tried to gently correct the president on what that meant.

    After the meeting, Stephen Miller reminded the president about what he promised his supporters, and we soon got a tersely worded tweet that "DACA is dead, and it's all the Democrats fault".

    Is that what you're talking about?

  • Harrison Bergeron Salt Lake City, UT
    June 8, 2019 1:59 p.m.

    David: “I am shocked that "conservatives" that support Trump do not raise this issue and demand a restoration of the true conservative powers, enumerated in the Constitution, back to the Congress…”

    Your whole comment is absolutely right. But I think I have the answer to this part of your comment. Conservatives are not happy about it. But when you are bleeding out, you try to stop the bleeding before you deal with the broken bones. Illegal immigration is an existential threat to our country. Both parties in Congress have shown no willingness or ability to deal with it (one party seems to be in favor of it).

    In many respects, Trump is like General George Patton, who was controversial on a good day and relieved of command on a bad day. The press hated him, the public was offended by him, the allied leadership barely tolerated him, but the Germans feared and respected him. Patton knew how to win and America needed to win. Three years ago America was on the ropes and badly needed to start winning again. If America had not been losing for the previous two decades, there would be no President Trump. But in the words of Patton: “Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser.”

  • Fly Fisherman Salt Lake City, UT
    June 8, 2019 12:35 p.m.

    Reagan: we have a border crisis!
    Bush Sr.: we have a border crisis!
    Clinton: we have a border crisis!
    Bush Jr.: we have a border crisis!
    Obama: we have a border crisis!
    Trump: we have a border crisis!

    Democrats: Trump invented a border crisis!

  • worf McAllen, TX
    June 8, 2019 11:24 a.m.

    Thank you Mr Trump!

  • n8ive american Shelley, Idaho
    June 8, 2019 10:31 a.m.

    @FT - salt lake city, UT
    June 7, 2019 11:43 a.m.
    "Meanwhile, more immigrants than ever have flooded to our borders due to the inept foreign policy of the Trump administration"

    Sorry to disagree with you, but the real problem is with sanctuary cities, Democrats promising amnesty and tying the hands of ICE.
    It's great that we have a President with a spine that isn't touring the world apologizing for everything and bowing down to every other world leader but instead stands up to them for what is right. We have been taken advantage of by many other nations. No longer.
    It is because Trump wants to make America stronger instead of subservient to other nations that I will vote for him in 2020.

  • Count Rushmore Salt Lake City, UT
    June 8, 2019 10:31 a.m.

    "This was just a distraction from Mueller report"

    Ah, yes, the magnificent Mueller report. What we're finding out, with each passing declassification, is truly fascinating, isn't it? I can't wait until the IG and Durham investigations are done and we understand the report even better.

  • David Centerville, UT
    June 8, 2019 9:33 a.m.

    For far too long, the executive branch has been centralizing powers that belong with Congress, and Congress has been very happy to give that power away. The problem is it has created a Constitutional conflict. This trade issue with Mexico is one example--very few in Congress wanted tariffs directed toward Mexico (another article in the Deseret News said tariffs against Mexico would cost Utahn's something like $150 million). And yet the president single handedly, without Constitutional power or authority to impose these tariffs, made these threats.

    It is Congress that has the power to impose tariffs. Not the president.

    I am shocked that "conservatives" that support Trump do not raise this issue and demand a restoration of the true conservative powers, enumerated in the Constitution, back to the Congress and pull back the unconstitutional powers that have centralized in the presidency the past few decades.

    The reason Congress has abdicated their responsibilities and given away their responsibilities is just that--so they are not responsible. It is a simple effort to retain their position & power.

  • GrainOfSalt Draper, UT
    June 8, 2019 8:58 a.m.

    @FT
    Inept foreign policy of the Trump administration? You can't be serious. The immigration mess is a domestic policy problem created by a Congress unwilling to do the right thing. Both parties are to blame. In his first year, Trump offered amnesty in exchange for immigration reform-- the amnesty even the Dems claimed they wanted. But the Dems walked and the Repubs lacked the spine to pass reform. Pathetic.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    June 8, 2019 8:57 a.m.

    FT - You evidently have no understanding of either our significantly flawed immigration policies or current US foreign policy. Claiming Trump's foreign policy for the massive invasion of illegals is an absolute non sequitur.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    June 8, 2019 8:55 a.m.

    Another fake deal that could have been made without tweet threats. This was just a distraction from Mueller report and most of the week golfing.

  • pragmatistferlife Salt Lake City, UT
    June 8, 2019 8:52 a.m.

    Oh what a great day to be a Trump sycophant.

    First of all illegal immigration has ruined the dreams and aspirations of millions upon millions of Americans for the past decades. Dreams to grow up to pick fruit and vegetables in our fields. Dreams to grow up and work in our meat packing factories. Finally this travesty will be over.

    Illegal immigration declines sharply for years but somehow Trump sees a crisis in this because hey they're still coming to take our dream jobs.

    What does change is a rise in asylum seekers from South American countries.. so what does Trump do cuts off aid that is intended to keep them home..so more come...Surprise.

    How many asylum seekers abide by rules.. around 95%. How many are granted asylum (legal entry) about 30%.

    So within this whole manageable backdrop Trump does what Trump does..causes a crisis..rushes in to "fix" it..gets a little something..declares victory and parades around to the accolades of the loyalists.

    Don't forget this childish behavior is not working with China, North Korea, or Iran, quite the opposite.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    June 8, 2019 8:36 a.m.

    Another sign this rapid deal may not be what Trump supporters think it is:

    The US is now "encouraging" - aka "pleading with" - China to resume trade talks.

    For those who look at broader context, a range of indicators indicate the tariffs & trade wars might be nudging the US & global economies into a slowdown, possible recession.

    For Trump supporters, this looks like a classic Trump marketing job - slap something together, declare victory, and let your fanclub shower you with adulation.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    June 8, 2019 8:22 a.m.

    Let's review:

    - A dismal jobs report Friday, confirming the bond market's sense of a recession threat.

    - Treasury Secretary Mnuchin dispatched to soothe global concerns about a looming recession sparked by trade wars.

    - Many of Trump's advisors strongly opposed to tariffs on Mexico.

    - The Fed reassuring investors that they'll take actions to respond to this apparent economic slowdown.

    - The Senate rising from it's slumber to threaten voting against Trump's Mexican tariffs.

    *Of course* they came to some kind of agreement!

    We'll see if the Mexicans have learned from North Korea that the way to deal with Trump is to make him think he won some fantastic deal, and then not do much.

    As for Trump's supporters, they should congratulate themselves and eat some Trump streak while waiting for their PhDs to arrive from Trump University.

    (We'll see if Trump re-instates the economic aid programs he cut to Central American countries, to head off China's ongoing bread economic outreach to Central and South America.)

  • Whale of Fortune Salt Lake City, UT
    June 8, 2019 8:02 a.m.

    Thank God for President Donald J. Trump.

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    June 8, 2019 7:36 a.m.

    Actually I think Trump is giving up way too much for way too little.

    Trump basically only got a promise from Mexico to be more cooperative on immigration issues.

    And what did Mexico get? Continued, relatively free access to the largest consumer economy in the world.

    On the other hand, Trump just got more out of Mexico than other previous president.

    And, Trump just killed most new US investment in Mexico for the next 2 or 3 years.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    June 8, 2019 7:19 a.m.

    Shaun: The only people for whom President Trump is chaotic are Democrats. Don't believe it? Watch his approval numbers climb, again! And watch him get re-elected in 2020. With every victory for America brought by President Trump, Democrats get more chaotic (angry irrational and weird).

  • cityboy Farmington, UT
    June 8, 2019 7:08 a.m.

    Typical Trump. He eschews diplomacy and negotiation for bombastic and bullying threats that come out of nowhere thereby creating an artificial crisis. Then without any measurable outcomes he declares that he alone has solved the crisis. The result? Status quo amid the cheers of his base that he is the greatest president and problem solver (creator?) ever. Things remain the same except for the jitters he sends through the nation’s economy resulting in the loss of $4 trillion of wealth.

    Trump is an erratic charlatan and huckster. He makes P.T. Barnum look like a piker.

  • scrappy do DRAPER, UT
    June 8, 2019 6:58 a.m.

    Where there is a will there is a way

    Dems and most republicans never want to play hardball

    Let’s remember that third world countries need us a lot more than we need them

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    June 8, 2019 6:55 a.m.

    Egg on the faces of Democrats (and some Republicans), again! Can't wait to hear Nancy and Chuck whine!

  • one old man MSC, UT
    June 8, 2019 6:51 a.m.

    "trump says" U.S. and Mexico agree.

    Hmmmm.

    This from the man who even lies about where his father was born?

    It remains to be seen what will REALLY happen next.

  • Daedalus, Stephen Arvada, CO
    June 8, 2019 6:40 a.m.

    Whatever. No surprise. But no fundamental difference either.

    Trump will continue to play the hero in the dramas of his own creation, and his followers are free to continue their blind adulation. And of course blame anyone and everyone but Trump and themselves for his predictable and avoidable failures.

  • mohokat , 00
    June 8, 2019 6:34 a.m.

    Trust but verify is a great attitude. Mexico is not to be trusted so a lot of verifying needs to take place. Mr. President do not trust them.

  • Mad Hatter Albuquerque, NM
    June 8, 2019 4:20 a.m.

    Harrison Bergeron - Salt Lake City, UT
    June 7, 2019 10:43 p.m.

    "Mexico has been blowing us off for decades."

    Apparently you don't know your history. U.S. relations with Mexico, Central and South America has not been all that great for those countries. Remember, half of what we consider the United States was taken from Mexico is a war of land conquest initiated by the United States to extend itself west to the Pacific Ocean. Even the acquisition of Texas came as a land grab by Southern immigrants who wanted to bring slavery into that land in violation of Mexican laws.

    You forget that the land where you live was once sovereign Mexican territory. Guess who were the invaders? The United States got it cheap and Mexican-Americans became aliens in their own land for years. If anything, the United States has benefitted in many ways from Mexico. Perhaps if a lot of poor people facing hunger and violence lived in Canada, they too would want to come to the United States. Our wealth and safety are what draws people from all over the world. Familiarize yourself with the words of Emma Lazarus written at the base of the Statue of Liberty.

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    June 8, 2019 1:12 a.m.

    People accuse the U.S. of not being compassionate enough. Not taking in enough desperate immigrants.

    Here is the reality check.
    Immigrants and their U.S.-born children now number approximately 89.4 million people, or 28 percent of the overall U.S. population, according to the 2018 Current Population Survey (CPS). Pew Research Center projects that the immigrant-origin share will rise to about 36 percent by 2065.

  • Eponymous Eggplant Salt Lake City, UT
    June 8, 2019 12:26 a.m.

    MAGA!

    Trump 2020

  • RC in WJ WEST JORDAN, UT
    June 7, 2019 11:30 p.m.

    Just another Trump Trumped up threat and a last minute solution so the adoring few can fawn and grovel at the feet of the dear leader.

    The dog and pony show continues!

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    June 7, 2019 10:53 p.m.

    Very good job!

  • Harrison Bergeron Salt Lake City, UT
    June 7, 2019 10:43 p.m.

    Asylum seekers will now wait in MEXICO for their cases to be adjudicated. No more catch and release! Fantastic! Amazing what a POTUS with a spine can do!!!

    This isn’t a win for Trump, it’s a win for America!

    Jim Chee: “Could we cooperate with Mexico in the immigration crisis by some other means? Yes. But it isn't Trump's style to do the diplomatic thing and work together.”

    Mexico has been blowing us off for decades. They have been that neighbor everyone dreads; the one that is always coming into your yard uninvited, taking your stuff, breaking your stuff, harassing the dog and your kids. You try to talk to them nicely, but nothing ever changes, it’s always the same thing. Sometimes you wonder if you are at fault. Maybe you are doing something that really bothers them. So you talk to your Canadian neighbors on the other side of you - the ones you never have any problems with. They say you are the best neighbors ever and appreciate all you do for them. At this point, you decide moving isn’t an option so you have get in their face a little and build a wall.

  • bamafone Salem, UT
    June 7, 2019 10:20 p.m.

    One vote, you have got to be kidding. Congress is completely at fault. The feckless lawmakers of both party’s are destroying America, not Trump

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    June 7, 2019 10:16 p.m.

    @thid

    Trump will never be remembered as a great president. He is too chaotic and takes credit when none is deserved.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    June 7, 2019 10:03 p.m.

    Another big win for America!
    Thank you, President Trump!

  • Cougarbib2 Moorpark, CA
    June 7, 2019 9:54 p.m.

    Thank you President Trump for taking a stand when everybody else is piling on to criticize your efforts.

    By the way. Those South Americans truly needing asylum will ne able to take asylum in Mexico. Mexico even has jobs for them since so many of their own citizens are already in the US illegally, but making more money.

    Build the wall. Get Mexico to build a southern Mexico border wall since the border is tiny. Have Mexico stop the caravans marching through their country instead of aiding and abetting those migrations. Have Mexico provide asylum to their neighbors.

    Then, find ways to make legal immigration much easier, faster and less costly.

  • Yuge Opportunity Here Mapleton, UT
    June 7, 2019 9:38 p.m.

    Wait for it.....

    The Trump critics (and they are all over the place) will say it was a bad deal or it will accomplish nothing or that it is unfair to Mexico or that it will ruin the economy or it was just a political stunt or blahblahblah.

    Truth: Virtually all negotiations are a give-and-take.

    Trump is using the tools he has, taking risks in an effort to fix illegal immigration without giving away the store with amnesty and open borders.

    Give him credit for courage and determination to keep trying, even in the face of derogatory attacks on his efforts and motives. No president in my lifetime has attempted to fix immigration with such determination. Most have just played politics.

    Thank you, Mr. President.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    June 7, 2019 9:16 p.m.

    This is better than a wall and Mexico is paying for it! President Trump will go down as one of the BEST POTUS in history! Masterfully done, Mr. President Your Democrat challengers stand no chance.

  • Golden Rules Okay, OK
    June 7, 2019 7:45 p.m.

    A deal was reached tonight. I'm so glad Mexico is finally going to be solving this immigration problem. Thank you, Trump!

  • Golden Rules Okay, OK
    June 7, 2019 4:48 p.m.

    Why not threaten tariffs if drug cartels continue to finance gangs in California? I can't believe we didn't think of this earlier.

  • Golden Rules Okay, OK
    June 7, 2019 4:43 p.m.

    Why not threaten tariffs if illegal drugs continue to come into our country from Mexico?

  • Jim Chee Lahaina, HI
    June 7, 2019 4:41 p.m.

    Isn't this the way it always goes with Donald Trump: Make a lot of noise, blow smoke, and then reverse course and tell us he's gotten a great deal? For anyone who has studied his negotiation style, the lesson learned is always the same. Threats. Yelling. Noise. Giving in to the inevitable. Taking credit where no credit is deserved. It's all useless bluster to create chaos and make everyone uncomfortable in the mythic reality that is Donald Trump.

    Could we cooperate with Mexico in the immigration crisis by some other means? Yes. But it isn't Trump's style to do the diplomatic thing and work together. He plays by the basic rule, "I win, you lose." So we get all the strum und drang, people get migraine headaches, and Trump goes his merry way with another mess that need not have ever happened.

    This fits well with the Stephen Miller white nationalist mentality of exerting dominance over those who he believes are inferior to himself, particularly Latinx people both here and to the South. If it wasn't this, it would be something else to show disregard for poor, desperate people from Central America. Maybe it's the only way he can feel better about himself as a descendant of immigrants.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    June 7, 2019 4:36 p.m.

    "If we are unable to make the deal, Mexico will begin paying Tariffs at the 5% level on Monday!"
    ____________________
    Mexico hasn't agreed to that or anything resembling that. Nor do I expect them to. But this isn't Trump's supposed art of the deal. This is Trump, the mythmaker who assumes the reliability of the ever gullible. Scary thing is, he's too often right.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    June 7, 2019 1:07 p.m.

    What am I going to do with the 50 avocados I have hoarded?

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    June 7, 2019 12:31 p.m.

    The Donald is failing big time on immigration that has gotten much worse since he and Miller have been in charge. Sad!

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    June 7, 2019 11:43 a.m.

    Meanwhile, more immigrants than ever have flooded to our borders due to the inept foreign policy of the Trump administration.

  • The Great Helmsman Salt Lake City, UT
    June 7, 2019 11:01 a.m.

    Another great victory for Glorious Leader. All will learn to bow to his greatness.

    And the sooner the better.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    June 7, 2019 10:16 a.m.

    I might have confidence that the VP and others negotiating with the Mexican government could reach an accord to satisfy everyone. Maybe, just maybe, those people aided by Congressional pressure could find common ground.

    However, as usual, the President will decide one way or another on a whim. Or, perhaps on how the Fox commentators label any agreement. Even more likely to make up Trump's mind is how an agreement decision affects negative publicity that erupts (since that is almost daily, this is the most likely scenario).

    This is no way to run a "railroad". Agreements, treaties, accords have always been a carefully orchestrated process in which both sides get something and everyone saves face in the eyes of the world. Our President does not have the temperament, the patience, nor the respect for that kind of process. He seems to act on whim, or as a reaction to political problems.