@MadChemist,Where's the accountability for building a home on a
mountainside? These forests burn, and probably should burn regularly to be
healthy. Why do you live in a forest that burns regularly?
Kralon wrote:"Nice to see analysis based on improvement rather than
blame. Everyone makes mistakes, in every organization."Superficial analysis. No attempt to address the environmentalist's
efforts to stop the forest service from having about 1/4 of all trees that died
from the Japanese beetles to be the perfect kindling for power a terrible fire
like we had.No one held responsible. Yes, everyone makes mistakes
but outside of government, we PAY for our mistakes and someone who is competent
takes our place. In government they just get promoted.Terrible fire.
Terrible mismanagement. No accountability. No change in store.
Here's your guide to bureaucratic language:1. We didn't know
what we were doing.2. We didn't know how to speak to each other in
coherent language.3. We blame mother nature for being so irrational.
Environmental activism is peachy keen and letting the forest work out things
naturally is what should happen.4. It's not our fault. No one did
anything wrong; stuff happens.Remember how citizens were asking at
the time of the fire for accountability and the "leaders" said, "Now
is not the time to cast blame but to come together." Ok. We did our part.
You haven't done yours.And so the promised serious discussion
ended in bureaucratic gobbleygook. No one's job threatened, just homes.
I was one of the thousands of people forced out of their homes. We attended town
meetings and updates during the fire when we didn't know whether we would
have homes any more, and now I'm reading reports after the fact. In
everything I've read and heard, can you guess the one thing that's
missing? I have yet to hear a single person responsible for the decisions to let
these fires burn take any accountability for it. Absolutely no one has been
willing to say, "We screwed up." Instead, we get expressions of surprise
about what happened, as if fires aren't supposed to do these
things--you'd think they'd never done this before. It would be
refreshing almost beyond belief to hear someone, anyone, accept some
responsibility. I get angry again just reading about it.
"...a weather and fuel scenario that no one had ever seen before..."? I
would be interested in seeing that backed up. We had exceptionally dry
conditions, and it doesn't seem like it would be hard to anticipate the
fires getting out of control if it got windy. Many millions of dollars and
man-hours were spent, at great risk to life and property, when these fires could
almost have been put out with buckets if addressed earlier. Badly done.
Nice to see analysis based on improvement rather than blame. Everyone makes
mistakes, in every organization. Learning from those mistakes and improving
future performance should be the focus for all organizations. Those who made
mistakes are often the best performers afterwards when proactive, positive
coaching takes place.
The bullet points given are generalities., which do not encourage serious action
to be taken. I hope the full report has specifics which can suggest specific
action to be taken. To take one point : allowing a fire to burn for a week,
apparently without any action being taken is being derelict; no one can
accurately tell what the winds will be for a certainty for that length of time;
and a fire will dry out the adjacent brush and trees. Is there a clearly
defined authority who makes decisions on state or federal lands ? Do these
authorities get pertinent information in a timely manner ? Really ? How ? The
article leaves these questions in doubt.
It seems like 9 of every 10 "controlled burn" fires get out of control.
Bungling incompetence. People in charge should be fired. These fires were
reported early on, and no action was taken. City and state agencies offered help
as the fires grew, and they were turned away. Record drought conditions and wind
in the forecast, and yet, they let the fires burn until it became a disaster.
Decision makers in this case should be dismissed from their employment for total
This sounds like 1 big happy party. No accountability, no blame. People dropped
the ball and allowed these small fire to turn into monsters. Plus, they sure
came up with new excuses.