BYU men's basketball: Mark Pope positive regarding Nick Emery's prospects after a perhaps shaky introduction

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  • slackoff green river, WY
    June 6, 2019 2:51 p.m.

    Its not his offense abilities that are attractive to me, i like his defense.

  • Mowgli54 Granite Bay, CA
    June 5, 2019 10:02 p.m.

    We’d all like Emery to hit every shot, play like his freshman yr game at USF, where he burned the nets for 30.

    Thing is, I don’t know how many chances he’ll have. I get the impression that Pope isn’t afraid to sit anyone who isn’t playing well. And we know that Emery’s shot is prone to an occasional trip to the deep freeze.

    From what I hear, Jesse Wade really sticks it from downtown. We know what TJ does. And Jake Toolson, who I understand learned his sweet stroke from his Uncle Danny (as in Ainge) has something to prove in the Marriott Center and the shot to do it. Harding can shoot, Seljaas can get hot from deep. So if Emery wants touches, he’ll have to earn them, time and again.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    June 5, 2019 9:31 p.m.

    JohninSLC- I keep hoping the DN is a newspaper and not just a homer publication for byu and its owners. True, I have been disappointed for years now, but there is always hope. Somehow, the quote comes to mind, "So, you're saying there's a chance?"

  • CougarCat Tucson, AZ
    June 5, 2019 4:08 p.m.

    @There You Go Again -

    "The Cougars have the potential for an amazing 2019-20 season."

    The Cougs have had the potential for amazing seasons for the past 4 or 5 years now. Yet each year they've tailed off a bit more. They've had multiple 4 star recruits on their roster each year. The talent has been there, yet they haven't improved. Last season ended with a thud when they got their heads handed to them by a team they'd swept during the conference schedule.

    They've had too many nights where they didn't show up to play - too many losses to the Pepperdines, Pacifics, Portlands and LMUs of the NCAA. Let's watch and see whether or not Pope & crew will change this trend. Then we can talk about amazing seasons.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 5, 2019 4:02 p.m.

    “They are missing a great opportunity to demonstrate how bad life decisions cause bad outcomes.”

    at long last:

    True, but that’s not how they do things at the BYU-P house organ.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 5, 2019 3:56 p.m.

    “He could have transferred to any number of programs . . .”


    Are you kidding? With his track record, he would have rendered the transfer portal radioactive.

  • CougarCat Tucson, AZ
    June 5, 2019 3:56 p.m.

    I like having multiple talented guards/wings on the roster, i.e. TJ, Toolson, Wade, Emery, Harding and the new guy from USU-East. Maybe even Zac will regain his 3-pt stroke too.

    I don't like some of the things Emery's done during his time with the team (won't rehash them now). He hurt the team and Coach Rose with his decision making.

    If Nick can steady himself and get his level of play back to where we'd hoped it would be after 3 seasons as a Coug then great, let's have him. And if not, I'm sure the team will be ok with the other guys starting and getting the floor time.

  • Mowgli54 Granite Bay, CA
    June 5, 2019 1:56 p.m.

    Considering our lack of a stable of big guys, were I Pope I would consider a "controlled frantic" full court thing. Press and fast break. For this you need Emery. If you can rotate TJ, Yo (who can run), Baxter, Harding, Toolson, Jesse Wade, Emery, Kolby Lee (?), Seljas and Nixon, that's ten guys. I would think if you space their minutes properly, you can have fresh legs almost all game. Some guys like Yo and whoever has the hot hand may get more time than others, but I want a full court game. Maybe in our thin air we run the other guys off the court.

  • Grunao Provo, UT
    June 5, 2019 1:44 p.m.

    It's time to move past Emery. Let the kid transferring from Gonzaga have his turn.

  • Laxman Salt Lake City, UT
    June 5, 2019 1:30 p.m.

    During the summer every team in the country has the potential to have a special season. Not just BYU.

  • vasislos Holbrook, AZ
    June 5, 2019 12:21 p.m.

    I am very much looking for Emery to return to the form he had as a Freshman. Lest we forget he was a great scorer and was named WCC Second Team and WCC Freshman Team. He was on top of the world when things fell apart. He paid the price, BYU paid the price and now that is over. He could have transferred to any number of programs but chose to go through whatever BYU and the BYU Athletic Department required in order for him to return. I think that many people would have buckled under the pressure (and yes, much of it was self-inflicted) but he has overcome. I look forward to his return as a scorer and as a defender. I hope all can just celebrate the, hopefully, redemed player and stop with spewing the hatred.

    And I think Coach Pope may just be the best thing that could have happened to Emery. I think Pope can bring out the best in him.

  • There You Go Again St George, UT
    June 5, 2019 12:10 p.m.

    It would be a big mistake for Coach Pope to not look around at the current players or even the ones he knows and make a rational decision on who is going to be all in and who is going to take up a lot of the staffs time monitoring what they are up to.

    Coach Pope brought his own guys in to assist him.

    You want assistants who have supported you in the past and will support you in the future.

    Given Emery's past history, not just the mistakes but his overall attitude and approach... it makes sense that Coach Pope would be least do due and verify... what he sees … continues to see...this is not Coach Pope's first rodeo.

    The Cougars have the potential for an amazing 2019-20 season.

    It will be interesting to see how it all work out.

  • Peaches n Cream Salt Lake City, UT
    June 5, 2019 10:31 a.m.

    New coach, new players, new outlook.

  • Surf_Waves American Fork, UT
    June 5, 2019 10:22 a.m.

    I'm no expert here, but reading between the lines tells me the comments Coach Pope made about Emery vs. Haws and Toolson are polar opposites. Haws and Toolson comments are very positive and talk of the qualities of each player. "You'd have to ask him" is a terrible comment for your coach to make about you as a player.

  • slackoff green river, WY
    June 5, 2019 10:21 a.m.

    I hope emery stays, or is permitted to stay.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    June 5, 2019 9:54 a.m.

    The DN is trying hard to paint Emery as some sort of role model in overcoming "his adversity". They are missing a great opportunity to demonstrate how bad life decisions cause bad outcomes.

  • AZ Palm Coug Provo, UT
    June 5, 2019 9:43 a.m.

    Y ask Y ... "Why do these articles always drum up so much hype before the season, and then the Bball and Football teams always let us down? We can't hype our way to victory and success. But hype can sure make failure that much more painful!"

    This article was hardly a rah rah piece, touting the potential of the BYU squad to go deep into the NCAA tournament. It didn't even predict any particular player's expected production. Mark Pope, of course, will talk in positive terms about his emerging team, He should be fired if he didn't. I've never seen a team succeed with an Eeyore-like approach to a coming season.

    I do love it, however, that you care so much about the Cougs that you are truly pained by expectations satisfied by nothing other than conference (and then national) championships. As the years pass by you will find yourself celebrating the games we win and loving the performance (and individual plays) of many of our athletes, even when we lose. Its a game.

  • Utetoot Heber City, UT
    June 5, 2019 9:37 a.m.

    I am super happy that Nick Emery is playing ball again. He is a good young man.
    One of the big glaring issues in NCAA basketball right now is the fact that due to the AAU programs many of these kids come to school with an entitlement attitude. They show up with an attitude of "Ok, I'm here, we will win just because I am here." The fun of competitive youth basketball is really kinda gone. Those with money or extraordinary skill sets at a young age get placed on AAU teams. High school teams are now playing year round in AAU tournaments. I know of a team in Utah that after the High School Basketball season was over in the high schools they went to Fiji and played in a tournament. What happens to those who don't have the cash or the name or just want to develop into a great ball player.
    The fab 3 from Lone Peak were a generation who came in with that entitlement in their minds. Their national success at Lone peak had as much to do with parental money as it did skill. Private lessons make for great ball players. Couple that with size and speed and this is what you get.

  • Back Talk Federal Way, WA
    June 5, 2019 9:36 a.m.

    I suspect laying down the law that "if you dont want to be here then I will help find you a place to play" is typical when a new coach is hired. However, depending on the coaches tone and his perceived intent towards certain individuals, I can understand those players "looking sideways" not knowing if Pope was actually "telling" them to go elsewhere.

    There appears to be a new energy in this program and I hope that Pope is successful.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    June 5, 2019 9:35 a.m.

    Mark is doing a great job recruiting new talent and building unity on the team.

    Looking forward to Emery returning to the solid player he was as a Freshman.

    He's paid his dues and deserves a second chance.

  • BrianB Greencastle, IN
    June 5, 2019 8:43 a.m.

    What has been missing the last couple of years has been a cohesive plan and unit. They all tried to do too much on their own. I trust that Pope will fix that.

  • rlsintx Saratoga Springs, UT
    June 5, 2019 8:21 a.m.

    Just win and everything will be fine.

    Emery should be pretty thankful there's a place on the team for him to finish up.

    Get out and ball !

  • cougazz Smithfield, UT
    June 5, 2019 8:17 a.m.

    Huge mistake to hype the Lone Peak kids so much early on. They came in thinking success was a given. The one that got away is a decent NBA player. Also, very disappointing to see that Emery was "looking sideways" at Pope. Emery is the last person on the face of the earth who should be looking sideways at anyone with BYU.

  • wallyball SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    June 5, 2019 7:28 a.m.

    The name that doesn't seem to be mentioned much is Jesse Wade. I think folks are going to be suprised how good he is. Yoeli pretty much did what he wanted last year and Rose let him. I think he will be held much more accountable for overall team play than before. Also let those without sin cast the first stone at Emery. I thought we believed in forgiving 70 x 7.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    June 5, 2019 4:55 a.m.

    Nick Emery's actions cost his team 47 wins, and if he didn't sit out a season it would have been more. That was his "personal" reason for not playing a year. BYU, knowing at that point the NCAA was investigating and vacating wins was a likely punishment, letting him play would have been foolish. If I were Pope, I would not want him on my team.

  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    June 5, 2019 2:05 a.m.

    Why do these articles always drum up so much hype before the season, and then the Bball and Football teams always let us down?

    We can't hype our way to victory and success. But hype can sure make failure that much more painful!

    Maybe we need more toned down articles. End the hype.

  • BlueHusky Saratoga Springs, UT
    June 4, 2019 9:59 p.m.

    After the last two years, my interest in BYU hoops was waning. Volleyball was much more fun to watch. Players leaving for miscellaneous international leagues. The inconsistent play and failures to compete effectively was getting worse each year. The best players jumping ship after a year or two.

    Now coach Pope has revived the team. Key players coming back and deciding to play another year. It is very difficult to keep players in this era of predation by the pro leagues. The fact that Coach Pope has reversed this entire scenario gives BYU a richness of senior players they simply would not have had.

    They should be very competitive in the WCC this year. Maybe this is THE breakout year for BYU. I feel good about the football team, and if the hoops team follows, this could be a really good year for BYU sports. Not to mention the great women's sports, shows that BYU is getting serious. Good stuff.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    June 4, 2019 9:38 p.m.

    Emery should GO! Please.

  • CountryCoug Parker, CO
    June 4, 2019 9:34 p.m.

    Good comments gchris! I agree. A nice way to state what many fans feel about Haws. Lots of good players to score. I personally like Harding and think he showed some very good flashes with his athleticism. Just needs to regain his stroke and shake off the mission rust. Think Harding will be a starter and a much improved player this year along with Baxter. Prediction is Baxter, Childs and Harding on the front line and Haws and Toolson at guard. With Emery and Seljaas coming off the bench. Toolson comes in with very good 3 point shooting, much better than BYU's existing guards, and if this continues it will be great for BYU. Haws has never been a good one on one defender but is sneaky with some steals when he plays off his man. The lack of playing time for Emery the past few years really showed and he looked slower than in the past. Really rooting for him to regain his freshman stride.

  • intrinsicrewards Salem, VA
    June 4, 2019 8:04 p.m.

    Love the attitude and straight talk from Coach Pope. He owes nothing to the players coming back so they get to earn their spot like anyone else. This team could be good if everyone accepts their role.

  • water rocket , 00
    June 4, 2019 7:58 p.m.

    Coaches have to be optimistic, but they should also be guarded about creating expectations that are too high to reach. For example, there is no way to know about injuries. Then there is the oft mentioned honor code. With a mature senior group of players, this really could be a special year, depending on how well they all get along. But, if anyone gets the idea that they want to do all the scoring, this could be a colossal disaster. Having Childs back is a big plus. Not everyone can start, but if they are ready when their number is called, then great. By the way, I am still waiting for the old Emery to show up. As a freshman and sophomore, he was fun to watch.

    By the way, I really, really appreciate BYUtv broadcasting all their home games. For those who are considering advertising on BYUtv, please do, so that they can continue to broadcast these games.

  • gchris Rock Springs, WY
    June 4, 2019 6:55 p.m.

    Hopefully, TJ Haws won’t feel such a burden on his shoulders that he feels that he has to try to win every game all by himself or it will be a long season. With scorers like Childs, Toolson, and Baxter, there isn’t a good case for Haws making himself the first scoring option. I hope that Coach Pope will find a way to lift the burden off Haws’ shoulders and put it on four other sets of shoulders.