Its not his offense abilities that are attractive to me, i like his defense.
We’d all like Emery to hit every shot, play like his freshman yr game at
USF, where he burned the nets for 30.Thing is, I don’t know
how many chances he’ll have. I get the impression that Pope isn’t
afraid to sit anyone who isn’t playing well. And we know that
Emery’s shot is prone to an occasional trip to the deep freeze. From what I hear, Jesse Wade really sticks it from downtown. We know what TJ
does. And Jake Toolson, who I understand learned his sweet stroke from his
Uncle Danny (as in Ainge) has something to prove in the Marriott Center and the
shot to do it. Harding can shoot, Seljaas can get hot from deep. So if Emery
wants touches, he’ll have to earn them, time and again.
JohninSLC- I keep hoping the DN is a newspaper and not just a homer publication
for byu and its owners. True, I have been disappointed for years now, but there
is always hope. Somehow, the quote comes to mind, "So, you're saying
there's a chance?"
@There You Go Again -"The Cougars have the potential for an
amazing 2019-20 season."The Cougs have had the potential for
amazing seasons for the past 4 or 5 years now. Yet each year they've
tailed off a bit more. They've had multiple 4 star recruits on their
roster each year. The talent has been there, yet they haven't improved.
Last season ended with a thud when they got their heads handed to them by a team
they'd swept during the conference schedule.They've had
too many nights where they didn't show up to play - too many losses to the
Pepperdines, Pacifics, Portlands and LMUs of the NCAA. Let's watch and see
whether or not Pope & crew will change this trend. Then we can talk about
“They are missing a great opportunity to demonstrate how bad life
decisions cause bad outcomes.”at long last: True,
but that’s not how they do things at the BYU-P house organ.
“He could have transferred to any number of programs . . .”Whatisup:Are you kidding? With his track record, he would have
rendered the transfer portal radioactive.
I like having multiple talented guards/wings on the roster, i.e. TJ, Toolson,
Wade, Emery, Harding and the new guy from USU-East. Maybe even Zac will regain
his 3-pt stroke too.I don't like some of the things
Emery's done during his time with the team (won't rehash them now).
He hurt the team and Coach Rose with his decision making.If Nick can
steady himself and get his level of play back to where we'd hoped it would
be after 3 seasons as a Coug then great, let's have him. And if not,
I'm sure the team will be ok with the other guys starting and getting the
Considering our lack of a stable of big guys, were I Pope I would consider a
"controlled frantic" full court thing. Press and fast break. For this
you need Emery. If you can rotate TJ, Yo (who can run), Baxter, Harding,
Toolson, Jesse Wade, Emery, Kolby Lee (?), Seljas and Nixon, that's ten
guys. I would think if you space their minutes properly, you can have fresh
legs almost all game. Some guys like Yo and whoever has the hot hand may get
more time than others, but I want a full court game. Maybe in our thin air we
run the other guys off the court.
It's time to move past Emery. Let the kid transferring from Gonzaga have
During the summer every team in the country has the potential to have a special
season. Not just BYU.
I am very much looking for Emery to return to the form he had as a Freshman.
Lest we forget he was a great scorer and was named WCC Second Team and WCC
Freshman Team. He was on top of the world when things fell apart. He paid the
price, BYU paid the price and now that is over. He could have transferred to
any number of programs but chose to go through whatever BYU and the BYU Athletic
Department required in order for him to return. I think that many people would
have buckled under the pressure (and yes, much of it was self-inflicted) but he
has overcome. I look forward to his return as a scorer and as a defender. I
hope all can just celebrate the, hopefully, redemed player and stop with spewing
the hatred.And I think Coach Pope may just be the best thing that
could have happened to Emery. I think Pope can bring out the best in him.
It would be a big mistake for Coach Pope to not look around at the current
players or even the ones he knows and make a rational decision on who is going
to be all in and who is going to take up a lot of the staffs time monitoring
what they are up to.Coach Pope brought his own guys in to assist
him.You want assistants who have supported you in the past and will
support you in the future. Given Emery's past history, not just
the mistakes but his overall attitude and approach... it makes sense that Coach
Pope would be skeptical...at least do due diligence...trust and verify... what
continues to see...this is not Coach Pope's first rodeo.The Cougars have the potential for an amazing 2019-20 season.It will be interesting to see how it all work out.
New coach, new players, new outlook.
I'm no expert here, but reading between the lines tells me the comments
Coach Pope made about Emery vs. Haws and Toolson are polar opposites. Haws and
Toolson comments are very positive and talk of the qualities of each player.
"You'd have to ask him" is a terrible comment for your coach to
make about you as a player.
I hope emery stays, or is permitted to stay.
The DN is trying hard to paint Emery as some sort of role model in overcoming
"his adversity". They are missing a great opportunity to demonstrate how
bad life decisions cause bad outcomes.
Y ask Y ... "Why do these articles always drum up so much hype before the
season, and then the Bball and Football teams always let us down? We can't
hype our way to victory and success. But hype can sure make failure that much
more painful!"This article was hardly a rah rah piece, touting
the potential of the BYU squad to go deep into the NCAA tournament. It
didn't even predict any particular player's expected production. Mark
Pope, of course, will talk in positive terms about his emerging team, He
should be fired if he didn't. I've never seen a team succeed with an
Eeyore-like approach to a coming season.I do love it, however, that
you care so much about the Cougs that you are truly pained by expectations
satisfied by nothing other than conference (and then national) championships.
As the years pass by you will find yourself celebrating the games we win and
loving the performance (and individual plays) of many of our athletes, even when
we lose. Its a game.
I am super happy that Nick Emery is playing ball again. He is a good young man.
One of the big glaring issues in NCAA basketball right now is the fact
that due to the AAU programs many of these kids come to school with an
entitlement attitude. They show up with an attitude of "Ok, I'm here,
we will win just because I am here." The fun of competitive youth basketball
is really kinda gone. Those with money or extraordinary skill sets at a young
age get placed on AAU teams. High school teams are now playing year round in AAU
tournaments. I know of a team in Utah that after the High School Basketball
season was over in the high schools they went to Fiji and played in a
tournament. What happens to those who don't have the cash or the name or
just want to develop into a great ball player. The fab 3 from Lone Peak
were a generation who came in with that entitlement in their minds. Their
national success at Lone peak had as much to do with parental money as it did
skill. Private lessons make for great ball players. Couple that with size and
speed and this is what you get.
I suspect laying down the law that "if you dont want to be here then I will
help find you a place to play" is typical when a new coach is hired.
However, depending on the coaches tone and his perceived intent towards certain
individuals, I can understand those players "looking sideways" not
knowing if Pope was actually "telling" them to go elsewhere. There appears to be a new energy in this program and I hope that Pope is
Mark is doing a great job recruiting new talent and building unity on the
team.Looking forward to Emery returning to the solid player he was
as a Freshman.He's paid his dues and deserves a second chance.
What has been missing the last couple of years has been a cohesive plan and
unit. They all tried to do too much on their own. I trust that Pope will fix
Just win and everything will be fine.Emery should be pretty thankful
there's a place on the team for him to finish up.Get out and
Huge mistake to hype the Lone Peak kids so much early on. They came in thinking
success was a given. The one that got away is a decent NBA player. Also, very
disappointing to see that Emery was "looking sideways" at Pope. Emery is
the last person on the face of the earth who should be looking sideways at
anyone with BYU.
The name that doesn't seem to be mentioned much is Jesse Wade. I think
folks are going to be suprised how good he is. Yoeli pretty much did what he
wanted last year and Rose let him. I think he will be held much more accountable
for overall team play than before. Also let those without sin cast the first
stone at Emery. I thought we believed in forgiving 70 x 7.
Nick Emery's actions cost his team 47 wins, and if he didn't sit out a
season it would have been more. That was his "personal" reason for not
playing a year. BYU, knowing at that point the NCAA was investigating and
vacating wins was a likely punishment, letting him play would have been foolish.
If I were Pope, I would not want him on my team.
Why do these articles always drum up so much hype before the season, and then
the Bball and Football teams always let us down?We can't hype
our way to victory and success. But hype can sure make failure that much more
painful!Maybe we need more toned down articles. End the hype.
After the last two years, my interest in BYU hoops was waning. Volleyball was
much more fun to watch. Players leaving for miscellaneous international leagues.
The inconsistent play and failures to compete effectively was getting worse each
year. The best players jumping ship after a year or two.Now coach
Pope has revived the team. Key players coming back and deciding to play another
year. It is very difficult to keep players in this era of predation by the pro
leagues. The fact that Coach Pope has reversed this entire scenario gives BYU a
richness of senior players they simply would not have had.They
should be very competitive in the WCC this year. Maybe this is THE breakout year
for BYU. I feel good about the football team, and if the hoops team follows,
this could be a really good year for BYU sports. Not to mention the great
women's sports, shows that BYU is getting serious. Good stuff.
Emery should GO! Please.
Good comments gchris! I agree. A nice way to state what many fans feel about
Haws. Lots of good players to score. I personally like Harding and think he
showed some very good flashes with his athleticism. Just needs to regain his
stroke and shake off the mission rust. Think Harding will be a starter and a
much improved player this year along with Baxter. Prediction is Baxter, Childs
and Harding on the front line and Haws and Toolson at guard. With Emery and
Seljaas coming off the bench. Toolson comes in with very good 3 point
shooting, much better than BYU's existing guards, and if this continues it
will be great for BYU. Haws has never been a good one on one defender but is
sneaky with some steals when he plays off his man. The lack of playing time for
Emery the past few years really showed and he looked slower than in the past.
Really rooting for him to regain his freshman stride.
Love the attitude and straight talk from Coach Pope. He owes nothing to the
players coming back so they get to earn their spot like anyone else. This team
could be good if everyone accepts their role.
Coaches have to be optimistic, but they should also be guarded about creating
expectations that are too high to reach. For example, there is no way to know
about injuries. Then there is the oft mentioned honor code. With a mature
senior group of players, this really could be a special year, depending on how
well they all get along. But, if anyone gets the idea that they want to do all
the scoring, this could be a colossal disaster. Having Childs back is a big
plus. Not everyone can start, but if they are ready when their number is
called, then great. By the way, I am still waiting for the old Emery to show
up. As a freshman and sophomore, he was fun to watch. By the way,
I really, really appreciate BYUtv broadcasting all their home games. For those
who are considering advertising on BYUtv, please do, so that they can continue
to broadcast these games.
Hopefully, TJ Haws won’t feel such a burden on his shoulders that he feels
that he has to try to win every game all by himself or it will be a long season.
With scorers like Childs, Toolson, and Baxter, there isn’t a good case for
Haws making himself the first scoring option. I hope that Coach Pope will find
a way to lift the burden off Haws’ shoulders and put it on four other sets