I've discussed this sad story with my teenage sons and daughters. There
are sad lessons to learn here about putting yourself in vulnerable situations,
getting too deep too quick and making responsible choices even if those around
you are not.
@FT:Hmmmm? I agree that gun owners need to be responsible, but to
put away this owner in prison for several years and to slap "large
fines" on him - is that the answer? What happens if you loan
your gun to your daughter to go target shooting with her boyfriend and while
they are there she has an argument with him and she shoots him out a temporary
fit of rage. Should you go to prison for that? Or, what about if
you loan your truck to your son-in-law to haul a load to the dump. If on the
way to the dump he breaks the speed limit and has an accident that kills a
fellow motorist. Should you go to prison for that too?Unless we
know a person to whom we loan something has mal intent, should we be held
accountable for loaning something as you suggest?
"The review concluded that even if the campus police department wasn't
understaffed, overworked and inexperienced, state and University of Utah
officials aren't sure officers could have prevented the shooting . .
.". Oh, that's all right then. If security officers "aren't
sure" they could prevent something, then the solution is surely to do
Just another example of an irresponsible gun owner. Our laws need to be
tougher and strictly enforced on irresponsible gun owners. Some gun owners
want the rights but not responsibilities that go with their 2nd amendment right.
Lock people like this up for several years and give large fines. I believe
that will lead many owners or want to be owners into thinking twice if they
really want the responsibility of owning a fire arm.
Young people need to be more careful and selective in getting into
relationships. I am shocked at how quickly many young people get deeply involved
with people they barely know. In extremely short periods of time they become
intimate with people who are little more than strangers, giving them access to
their homes, vehicles, financial accounts, and beds. It is better to take things
slow and maintain some skepticism. Also, if something seems off and you find the
individual has some serious issues, get away from them quickly and take
precautions. If necessary, move, change your contact information, and be
prepared to defend yourself.
As sad and tragic as this is, the victim put herself in a very vulnerable
position on numerous occasions.
I hope we are still learning lessons from the ad-nauseum stories about this
tragic event. One lesson that news reporters seem to be loathe to discuss in
this story are the risks young women take in dating a stranger like this
murderer and the circumstances of where and how she met him and such. There
should be some discussion of her apparent lack of judgement in submitting to
being photographed in compromising situations which were later used to coerce
her. Unfortunately, there are bad people in society so it behooves us to use
good judgement in deciding where and with whom we are willing to hang out.I agree with "Tubleweed" about the potential for a young women
to have a concealed and carry permit and a weapon for protection, but often
times the best protection is prevention in the first place.
This young woman was old enough to have possessed a defensive handgun. With the
number of calls she made to the campus police, she was undoubtedly aware of the
risk her former boyfriend posed to her. Whether a small handgun would have
saved her is debatable. However, while she was being dragged (kidnapping - a
forcible felony justifying the use of deadly force) to the automobile she was
shot in, she may have had a chance to use it to defend herself. Unfortunately,
we'll never know. It's crucial for women to realize that often law
enforcement cannot or will not, for various reasons, respond to requests for
police protection under circumstances similar to this one. In such situations
it is critical that they have the means to defend themselves. The Utah
legislature has been responsive to these needs, allowing 18 year old college
co-eds to qualify for a concealed permit and this year, upon qualifying for a
protective order, having the legal right to carry a concealed firearm for 120
days without a permit.