Proposed science standards head to State School Board

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  • dmb Lehi, UT
    May 26, 2019 7:47 a.m.

    Studies show that the majority of Americans believe in God. But intolerant secularists took out the teachings of the Bible from schools which describe the origin of man. They cite the “Separation of Church and State” even though such a phrase doesn’t even exist in the First Amendment and ignore volumes of other evidence that Founders if our nation believed in God. A correct interpretation of the First Amendment is that Congress shall not establish a national Church because we believe in freedom of conscience in individuals choosing a religion. But the First Amendment is also clear that Congress shall also not prohibit “the free exercise” of religion. Clearly that phrase itself should allow for religious teaching in the classroom - especially if they are discussed as one of many theories discussing the origin of life. When secularists advance their ideas related to the origin of man in Evolution, , the Big Bang Theory, etc. - while excluding other theories contained in the Bible - they are in effect promoting intolerant anti-religious views.

  • jdog777 kanab, UT
    May 25, 2019 12:33 p.m.

    Well... the comment from NoNamesAccepted is an issue.

    You said a teacher should be able to make their statement ""For the next couple of weeks we're going to cover the scientific theory of evolution. This is the only, best explanation science has for the origins of life. This is not intended to attack your religious beliefs in any way.... "
    This statement is factually wrong and this is the issue. The theory of evolution absolutely does not address the origin of life.... at all. Public Education biology teachers don't know this and refuse to teach this. They over-simplify the theory and misrepresent the science. They are ill equipped to address what evolution is. This is precisely why evolutionary theory should only be taught in college level biology curriculum with advance genetic studies, so that theory can be put in proper context.
    If you were to assign evolutionary theory to the origins of life... it would declare that abiogenesis is the best answer for origins. It is absolutely not. It has been debunked over and over and over some more. We observe... life begets life every single time.

  • Helen M Kimball Salt Lake City, UT
    May 25, 2019 2:16 a.m.

    @NoNames
    No disclaimer needed for teaching evolution (I never give any).
    Present the evidence and then have the students' institution teach their competing/adjoining ideas on the topic.

    Critical thinking will come from hearing both sides. No disclaimer needed is needed from either group.

    I would never ask a religious institution to provide a disclaimer before their sermon that says, "this is only one idea, this is not meant to attack what you may have studied and examined at school..."

  • Helen M Kimball Salt Lake City, UT
    May 25, 2019 2:09 a.m.

    Oh boy. More changes (I was just beginning to be comfortable with the current sEED curriculum adopted two years ago). Hopefully they are just cleaning up some areas that need more work.

    Glad the board fended off ONE board members ideas for dumbing down the evolution and climate change curriculum, because her friend "once saw" a scientist changing data....?

    If I was asked to teach creation as a science topic. I would pick teaching about the Tohono O'odham creation story. It has many great scientific elements to it.
    The first brother creates light, then the coyote, then the buzzard, who then continue to assist in the creation process. I would draw from the vast scientific resources available about this topic.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    May 24, 2019 9:21 p.m.

    This is such an easy thing that when it doesn't happen one really wonders why.

    Decades ago in my rural Utah school, our science teacher covered evolution. He started with a very simple statement:

    "For the next couple of weeks we're going to cover the scientific theory of evolution. This is the only, best explanation science has for the origins of life. This is not intended to attack your religious beliefs in any way. You are not required to believe any of this material. You are required to learn it and understand it. When you take the test, I am not asking for what you believe, I am asking you to tell me what you understand of the material that has been taught."

    We then learned the theory of organic, biological evolution without any hint of anything religious or divine. Just current, best science.

    Why not offer this disclaimer?

    As there is only a single, current hypothesis for origins of life, it would useful to teach some of the previously rejected theories for what causes evolution in addition to natural selection. Ditto, at least one minority scientific theory of cosmology. Lacking some competing theories to consider, tough for kids to learn real critical thinking.