Missouri 8-week abortion ban one step from going to governor

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  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    May 17, 2019 9:06 a.m.

    How do people expect women to carry a child of rape and incest? Please defend that position with logic and compassion.

  • JaneB Wilsonville, OR
    May 16, 2019 7:50 p.m.

    These extreme legislative (GOP) games only harm the pro-life movement, will not save lives, and only harden pro-choice views. Society is moving more and more pro-life all the time on it’s own. These bills are counterproductive..

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    May 16, 2019 6:09 p.m.

    @Frozen Fractals:

    "1. pregnancy test taken every time she has intercourse."

    How many who reliably use birth control get pregnant? I presume those who have sex and realize a condom has broken or IUD is out of place, will test.

    "2. ...at least a month into it."

    How many, how often? And why not? Where human life is involved, some minimum level of responsibility must be required. That's why you demand mandatory safe storage for guns. Why not mandatory safe sex?

    "3. Plenty of obstacles are put in the way of it."

    Of abortion. But not birth control.

    How many unintended pregnancies would we have if sexually active women consistenty used birth control which is easy and cheap to obtain?

    45% of all abortions are repeats. Time to stop using abortion as birth control.

    "4. Life of mother and a fetus ... near-certain fatal condition ..."

    And exceptions exist for these cases. So not an issue.

    "2/3 are in first 8 weeks. 91% by wk 13....."

    8 weeks ban only affects 1/3rd, a 13 week ban only affects 9%. Will you support limits at either mark? What happens when "viability" is 15 weeks? Rarity is not the question. Every life matters. "One is too many" you say after every shooting.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    May 16, 2019 4:05 p.m.

    @NoNamesAccepted
    "A low-cost, over-the-counter home pregnancy test will accuractely detect pregnancy 14 days after conception. That leaves 6 weeks to end an unwanted pregnancy before this ban kicks in.

    When dealing with a developing human life, that seems more than reasonable.

    What am I missing?"

    A few things:
    1. Nobody is getting a pregnancy test taken every time she has intercourse. Generally that's just after a missed period, morning sickness, or when trying to get pregnant (not a very applicable situation to this of course).
    2. Oftentimes women don't find out they are pregnant until at least a month into it.
    3. Plenty of obstacles are put in the way of it. Some states only have one clinic that provides abortion and it can be hours away so one might have to schedule time off of work, possibly multiple days because some states have waiting period laws too, and it can be a financial/transportation hassle to deal with.
    4. Life of mother and a fetus developing with a near-certain fatal condition are often later term issues.

    2/3 are in first 8 weeks. 91% by wk 13. Only 1.3% are above 21 weeks/past viability.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    May 16, 2019 2:29 p.m.

    Anyone else find it ironic that today's very aggressive anti-abortion GOP, is headed by a guy that has probably funded more abortions than all the other US Presidents, combined?

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    May 16, 2019 1:54 p.m.

    Why is there ever a need for an elective abortion after 8 weeks?

    Birth control is highly effective, readily available, inexpensive, easy to use, and carries no social stigma. There is really no reason to get pregnant, even if one is sexually active. And yet, 45% of all abortions are repeat abortions. Clearly, too many are using abortion as after-the-fact birth control. That needs to change.

    A low-cost, over-the-counter home pregnancy test will accuractely detect pregnancy 14 days after conception. That leaves 6 weeks to end an unwanted pregnancy before this ban kicks in.

    When dealing with a developing human life, that seems more than reasonable.

    What am I missing?

    And if not 8 weeks, at what point with the pro-abortion crowd accept limits on purely elective abortions?

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    May 16, 2019 1:30 p.m.

    "The legislation includes exceptions for medical emergencies, but not for pregnancies caused by rape or incest. Doctors would face five to 15 years in prison for violating the eight-week cutoff. "

    So the rapists are favored over the docs. Wow. Explosive.