Cougars overpower Utes in rivalry baseball game, 10-3

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  • Lone*Star Austin, TX
    May 19, 2019 8:39 p.m.

    azute1

    A laughing stock whose division winner wasn’t even good enough to be ranked in the Final AP and Coaches polls.

    Absolutely pathetic for a P5 division winner considering THREE MWC teams were good enough to be ranked.

    And, let’s not forget BYU owns U in basketball winning 13 of the last 17, most, just like the last two seasons, by double digits.

    The mighty weak Utes are only the fourth best team in the state and the WCC owned the P12 10-7 in 2018-19.

  • Lone*Star Austin, TX
    May 19, 2019 8:28 p.m.

    U-H alum

    “Utah has also won two NCAA national titles in the last two years. When was the last time the Y won a natty?”

    When was the last time Utah won a natty in a men’s sport, instead of a fake coed sport in which there is literally ZERO competition?

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 19, 2019 8:27 p.m.

    “The PAC 12 is literally the only conference that thinks they’re a conference of champions.”

    More NCAA championships than any other conference, including the lowly wcc.

    “Ironic, since the PAC 12 has become a laughing stock amongst P5’s in football and basketball.”

    A laughingstock byu-p went 1-3 against last year & is merely 5-13 against to date, beating only teams @/under .500?

    Bwhahahahaha

    Next.

    Go Utes!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 19, 2019 8:23 p.m.

    “Unlike utah-slc fans, who brag about winning meaningless coed skiing championships,

    Clemson and Alabama fans celebrate real championships.”

    And w/all of our CFP rankings & byu-p’s ZERO CFP rankings, we’re a heck of a lot closer to Clemson//Alabama, period.

    I seriously can’t wait to jumpstart our ‘19 campaign by straight kicking byu-p’s teeth in on their home-field.

    Go Utes!

  • Road Runner Cedar City, UT
    May 19, 2019 8:02 p.m.

    azute1

    “The BYU fanbase is literally the only one I’ve ever seen even referencing this ranking.....Have you ever heard a Clemson fan mention it? A ‘Bama fan?”

    Why would Clemson or Alabama fans care about the Directors Cup?

    Unlike utah-slc fans, who brag about winning meaningless coed skiing championships,

    Clemson and Alabama fans celebrate real championships.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    May 19, 2019 7:55 p.m.

    The PAC 12 is literally the only conference that thinks they’re a conference of champions.

    Ironic, since the PAC 12 has become a laughing stock amongst P5’s in football and basketball.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 19, 2019 3:21 p.m.

    “Current Directors Cup Standings“

    The byu-p fanbase is literally the only one I’ve ever seen even referencing this ranking.....Have you ever heard a Clemson fan mention it? A ‘Bama fan?

    And they fail to qualify it by acknowledging the fact one important facet of it is sheer # of programs an AD has—In other words, more programs equates to more points & byu-p fields more programs than we do, period.

    Finally, @ the root of it all is their fans’ inability to deal w/8 straight & counting that they’re relegated to grasping @ straws—How pathetic!

    Go Utes!

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 19, 2019 3:17 p.m.

    @ Aunt Myth,

    BYU has more teams in the Directors Cup than Utah. Utah beats the tar out of BYu head-to-head as U well know.

    Utah has also won two NCAA national titles in the last two years. When was the last time the Y won a natty?

    Good luck leaving LES in August with a smile on your mug. Utah football is your daddy and will win again......you know it, as do I.

    Cheer up!

  • Aunty Mythology Monrovia, CA
    May 19, 2019 1:47 p.m.

    Current Directors Cup Standings

    #19 BYU - 539.50
    #61 Utah - 253.75

    Despite the constant hype from the hill,

    the Utes have never been relevant when achievement in all NCAA Men’s and Women’s sports is considered.

    #20 Princeton, #41 Denver, #46 Hawaii, #49 Air Force, and #51 Boise State are all better than U.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 19, 2019 12:06 p.m.

    @ Cougsndawgs,

    I hear ya man! I worry about Utah being really good. KWhitt plays really conservative and we have no FG kicker. As you stated, ZM has to run far less often. Utah has a great, deep stable of RBs. The U scored some O-line folks, but Harding must put it all together.....a doubt to me in 2019. Utah has a much easier schedule this season, so I expect them to do okay and be ranked in the CFP yet again.

    As far as UGA......heck, the "Gumps" are tough, but UGA has gamers everywhere on the field. I'll be cheering for U.......not BYu though! HAHA!

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 19, 2019 8:19 a.m.

    @ Bluto,

    Regardless of your erroneous claims/attacks about Utah in the PAC, I certainly feel your pain and absolute isolation that grows on a daily basis.

    College sports is not "exposure" to build an ideology, but simply entertainment for fans. We real Utes enjoy the entertainment value in PAC-12 sports. And, we feel fortunate as of today.

    Try to be understanding as it relates to reality and "thou shalt not covet thy neighbor."

    I wish you hope kind sir.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    May 18, 2019 8:56 p.m.

    @ Utah-Hawaii Alum - CA

    you wrote:

    "Yes, we Utes would love to drop all things BYu and never experience them ever again. They are of no benefit to us in any way, or ever will be. We compete vs USC in the PAC and hope we beat them".

    But that is the whole point... Utah-Hawaii-Naval-Frog

    "U" don't compete at all in the Pac !

    Three Conference Championships out of over 120 Championships Awarded, since "U" joined the Pac...

    IS NOT COMPETING !

    "U" are just another Coat-tailing filler for the Pac-12.

    And, the fact that U post incessantly on every BYU article, demonstrates emphatically, that BYU is your only rival and always will be.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 18, 2019 5:01 p.m.

    Utah-HI- Mike:
    "Hello dear man and I hope all is well!!!! I'm feel'n kinda jazzed about my Utes possibly makin' some noise and your Dawgs earning a CFP birth in 2019."

    Sorry Mike, I think I missed this earlier. You should be jazzed about your Utes, I think they should be pretty good...but someone needs to tell Whit to rotate his RBs. It would be nice to see ZM play through the end of the season this year (used to be able to get away with having one workhorse but it's just too physical these days IMO).

    Hope my Dawgs can get over that Bama hump this year...tired of tripping over the gumps! Lol! Cheers my friend!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 18, 2019 11:18 a.m.

    Jello:
    "But the problem with communication, no matter how well you give the message, the person on the receiving end must have the ability to comprehend it."

    Haha! Well, we see how that went. It's apparent NV is "smarter than us" and he's caught onto my "reverse psychology" lol.

    Good luck my aquatic friend...keep posting away! :D

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 17, 2019 3:40 p.m.

    @ TroyTown,

    Yes, we Utes would love to drop all things BYu and never experience them ever again. They are of no benefit to us in any way, or ever will be. We compete vs USC in the PAC and hope we beat them. We Utes don't care if USC cares about us. That is childish behavior.

  • TroyTown Anaheim, CA
    May 17, 2019 3:16 p.m.

    johnnyboy

    "Most Ute fans would rather play anybody (Wagner, even) than BYU"

    LOL!

    FACTS:

    There's not a team on the planet that Ute fans love beating and hate losing to more than BYU!

    There's not a day goes by that Ute fans don't think about BYU.

    Losing to BYU to start the 2019 season will be DEVASTATING to Utah fans.

    Without looking it up, most Ute fans wouldn't have a clue what Utah's exact record versus USC is since joining the PAC 12,

    but EVERY Ute fan could cite, without hesitation, Utah's record versus BYU since 2011.

    btw, what week doesn't Utah play USC in 2019?

    See, you're still thinking about it, because U don't care that much about USC, even though U pretend to

    Many Ute fans desperately wish that USC cared as much about them, as Ute fans care about BYU.

    That will never happen.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 17, 2019 2:44 p.m.

    Naval Vet:

    You are dead-on correct.

    Most Ute fans would rather play anybody (Wagner, even) than BYU-P, yet coog fans are showing how desperate they are to keep Utah on the schedules. The fact that you've got red-jelly-rash-squirtle-turtle using all his screen names to call you a coog fan proves it.

    Be careful, though. You may hear from Greg Hughes--or Dick Harmon--to do a "performance audit" of YOUR screen name.

  • scenic view Baltimore, MD
    May 17, 2019 2:33 p.m.

    Naval Vet -

    Cougsndawgs's advice is rock solid.

    The fact that you're questioning its soundness, is proof positive that it's far beyond your level of understanding.

    'There is no such thing as bad publicity' is the notion that all mentions in the media aid a person's or organization's cause, even if they put them in a bad light.

    The absolute worst thing that can happen to an organization in the media, including social media, is to be ignored.

    To that end, BYU thanks U for your contributions.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 17, 2019 2:12 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs:

    Social media is definitely a huge part of marketing now...and what do you think a business (athletic dept) thinks about revenue and the ‘rivalry’ when they see two sides with animosity and vitriol posting/clicking over 100 times about a baseball game?”

    Funny you should ask. I seem to recall Public Insight Network conducting a survey a couple of years back that reflected over 73% of Y fans supporting an annual series with the Utes…

    …compared fewer than 14% of Ute fans who feel likewise. The other 86% of Ute fans supported a rivalry break – or even an end to it.

    “They will play this rivalry as long as U fans continue to show they care and continue to engage.”

    And isn’t that the real reason why Y fans want to silence U fans’ opinions that you’re NOT our rival anymore? Because with the growing volume of U fans complaining about this annual series, it’s become a very strong reflection of how little we care for it. And the more displeasure we express over having to play it every year – as my actions make perfectly clear with many of my posts -- the more jeopardized this game becomes to Y fans such as yourself.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 17, 2019 2:00 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs (cont.):

    “So let me give U some free advice...if U don't want to play them anymore, STOP posting about them, STOP engaging BYU fans, ask for season tickets without the BYU game when they're on the home schedule, go dark on SM about them.”

    That’s actually some pretty poor advise to offer someone who DOESN’T want this series to continue. That’s like telling the squeaky wheel to “Pipe down…or else we’ll stop giving you oil!” Doesn’t work that way little bro. Yours is the sort of advise I’d expect to come from someone of a self-serving nature. But it’s a fail. You’re NOT our rival, and I won’t cease complaining about seeing you on our schedules until you finally fall off of it. And I won’t be the only one either. Just look at the volume of Ute fans who say you’re not our rival! Case closed. How miserable for you.

    Wrecked indy-WACer.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 17, 2019 1:59 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs:

    Social media is definitely a huge part of marketing now...and what do you think a business (athletic dept) thinks about revenue and the ‘rivalry’ when they see two sides with animosity and vitriol posting/clicking over 100 times about a baseball game?”

    Funny you should ask. I seem to recall Public Insight Network conducting a survey a couple of years back that reflected over 73% of Y fans supporting an annual series with the Utes…

    …compared fewer than 14% of Ute fans who feel likewise. The other 86% of Ute fans supported a rivalry break – or even an end to it.

    “They will play this rivalry as long as U fans continue to show they care and continue to engage.”

    And isn’t that the real reason why Y fans want to silence U fans’ opinions that you’re NOT our rival anymore? Because with the growing volume of U fans complaining about this annual series, it’s become a very strong reflection of how little we care for it. And the more displeasure we express over having to play it every year – as my actions make perfectly clear with many of my posts -- the more jeopardized this game becomes to Y fans such as yourself.

  • Jello is Good ,
    May 17, 2019 1:51 p.m.

    Navy,

    So you were a big BYU fan until invited to find another university. Justin’s wondering if it was grades, parking tickets or HC. No matter, you still care deeply proving it with each post. Go ahead and reply with three straight comments. With each click you increase our National brand.

    Rise and shout son...

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 17, 2019 1:22 p.m.

    @ Gandalph,

    Utes don't mention 2004 or 2008 arbitrarily, EVER, almost NEVER in fact. It is a daily occurrence that Y fans bring up 1984, Doaks, Outlands, Heismans, Beck to Harline, Lone Peak Three, The Jimmer, etc... Who freak'n cares man? BYu is not a factor in D1 football or hoops. Utah football is makin' noise now because they can play! We Utes hope for the best and are grateful that we are in the big time! I thunk that Utah State could finally become a football rival to BYu. They actually care about that game now, unlike us. We used to care about the unreal, fierce "Holy War" basketball rivalry vs BYu, but that no longer exists, sadly. We Utes wish U the best as you move on.......thank you kind sir!

  • Jello is Good ,
    May 17, 2019 1:20 p.m.

    @Cougsndawgs

    " In terms of SM marketing, clicks and traffic speak far louder than what U actually say. Social media is definitely a huge part of marketing now...and what do you think a business (athletic dept) thinks about revenue and the "rivalry" when they see two sides with animosity and vitriol posting/clicking over 100 times about a baseball game? They will play this rivalry as long as U fans continue to show they care and continue to engage. And your actions (posts) make it perfectly clear that U hate BYU and U can't hate unless U care.

    So let me give U some free advice...if U don't want to play them anymore, STOP posting about them, STOP engaging BYU fans, ask for season tickets without the BYU game when they're on the home schedule, go dark on SM about them. THAT is what will register on the marketing research, not being the first poster droning on about the DFD on a softball article."

    -------------------

    Bravo. Could not have said it better. But the problem with communication, no matter how well you give the message, the person on the receiving end must have the ability to comprehend it.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 17, 2019 1:11 p.m.

    Jello is Good:

    "Now even the people you are trying to bond with from Utah realize you could NOT have come from their fine research institution. HC violation?"

    What are you talking about little bro? Who are you talking about? What HC violation? What imaginary conversations have you been having?

    Just so you know little bro, you can't change the subject. You're not our rival. We're obviously yours, but the feeling isn't mutual. Perhaps you all should try investing your time in establishing a "rival" with Utah St and/or UVU.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 17, 2019 12:59 p.m.

    NV:
    "It's not an "either/or" scenerio. Where do you think the marketing analysis comes from? Social media is a major source. I seriously doubt DNews and Trib comment threads would be ignored."

    I think U lend too much weight to the Trib and DN, but I'll humor U. In terms of SM marketing, clicks and traffic speak far louder than what U actually say. Social media is definitely a huge part of marketing now...and what do you think a business (athletic dept) thinks about revenue and the "rivalry" when they see two sides with animosity and vitriol posting/clicking over 100 times about a baseball game? They will play this rivalry as long as U fans continue to show they care and continue to engage. And your actions (posts) make it perfectly clear that U hate BYU and U can't hate unless U care.

    So let me give U some free advice...if U don't want to play them anymore, STOP posting about them, STOP engaging BYU fans, ask for season tickets without the BYU game when they're on the home schedule, go dark on SM about them. THAT is what will register on the marketing research, not being the first poster droning on about the DFD on a softball article.

  • Fear the Turtle!! ,
    May 17, 2019 12:31 p.m.

    @Naval Vet - Philadelphia, PA
    May 17, 2019 12:00 p.m.

    "What are you talking about little bro? Are you so devastated by the facts that you're desperately trying to change the subject? Are the spotlight beams of "ineptitude" to hot and bright for you that you need us to turn them off? How miserable for you."

    You go Navy!! All time Cougar fan. (By the way, when trying to trash someone for being inept, try spelling "too" the correct way. It will help with your claim.)

  • Jello is Good ,
    May 17, 2019 12:25 p.m.

    @Naval Vet - Philadelphia, PA
    May 17, 2019 11:50 a.m.
    Jello:

    "Well if that were true, then that must mean that YOU prove that you're NOT our rival every time you post on a Utah article. Does THAT make sense to you?

    #AnotherCougarLogicFail"

    Oh please. Now even the people you are trying to bond with from Utah realize you could NOT have come from their fine research institution. HC violation?

  • Gandalph Sandy, UT
    May 17, 2019 12:24 p.m.

    NV

    “Correction: Legacy accomplishments will always be treasured by those who are "has beens".”

    So we can expect never to hear about Utah’s 2004 and 2008 seasons again, since both occurred more than a decade ago, right?

    The hypocrisy on the hill knows no bounds.

  • My Rash is Red ,
    May 17, 2019 12:22 p.m.

    @ Navy (not vet)

    Absolute Cougar fan you are...Blue through and through!!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 17, 2019 12:00 p.m.

    Fear the Turtle!!:

    What are you talking about little bro? Are you so devastated by the facts that you're desperately trying to change the subject? Are the spotlight beams of "ineptitude" to hot and bright for you that you need us to turn them off? How miserable for you.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 17, 2019 11:57 a.m.

    BlueCoug:

    "Legacy accomplishments will always be treasured by those who have them."

    Correction: Legacy accomplishments will always be treasured by those who are "has beens".

    And for what it's worth, you're not really a "legacy" program. You're an indy-irrelevant, WAC-wannabe, midmajor forever, who's desperately been trying to measure up to their big brother on the hill [and failing spectacularly] for well over a decade now.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 17, 2019 11:50 a.m.

    Jello:

    "Navy, you prove you are our rival every time you read a BYU article. Every time you most multiple times, even on articles about girls softball, you ooze BYU fanaticism."

    Well if that were true, then that must mean that YOU prove that you're NOT our rival every time you post on a Utah article. Does THAT make sense to you?

    #AnotherCougarLogicFail

  • Fear the Turtle!! ,
    May 17, 2019 11:44 a.m.

    @Navy

    If it wasn't the grades, was it parking tickets?

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 17, 2019 11:42 a.m.

    BYu football to Utah is what Tulane is to LSU. If ya don't cream them.......you instantly lose credibility and drop in the polls instantaneously these days. It is that simple!

  • Jello is Good ,
    May 17, 2019 11:36 a.m.

    @Naval Vet - Philadelphia, PA
    May 17, 2019 10:46 a.m.

    "We Ute fans know that you Y fans are desperately trying to perpetuate the narrative that we’re rivals, and hate the fact that we keep damaging your case by refuting it. You need our silence on the matter, but that ain’t gonna happen. We’ve carried you all long enough. It’s time you finally got off our coattails. Go be rivals with Utah St."

    Navy, you prove you are our rival every time you read a BYU article. Every time you most multiple times, even on articles about girls softball, you ooze BYU fanaticism. Every time you put on your Cougar feety PJ's and turn on to KBYU on your mom's console television you cement your desire to be let back in to BYU. Was it the grades?

    Rise and shout fellow Cougar fan...

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 17, 2019 11:23 a.m.

    The thung is........BYu is trying to sell a product/culture that is beyond hard to market and achieve positive results. People don't hate BYu and who sponsors them. The "product" is avoided is all.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 17, 2019 11:17 a.m.

    Bluto:

    “Utah can play football for another 100 years and not achieve in football what BYU has already done, i.e. been awarded every major award which College Football has to offer…As for the Olympic sports? BYU blows Utah away.”

    Really? Then where’s your P5 invite? And if your Olympic sports are so superior, why had you lost 6 of the last 7 Deseret First Duels? All-sports head-to-head seems to favor your big brother on the hill. You seem to be under the delusion that we have some “catching up” to do with your “Band of Small-ballers”, but we don’t. We’d already passed you by. And it wasn’t even “just recently” either. We’d passed your program over a quarter century ago.

    It’s time for you ankle-biting little brothers to hop off our coattails, and tell your alumni in the churchislature to cease threatening educational funding cuts if we don’t play you. Go be rivals with Utah St and/or UVU.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 17, 2019 11:17 a.m.

    Bluto:

    “Utah can play football for another 100 years and not achieve in football what BYU has already done, i.e. been awarded every major award which College Football has to offer…As for the Olympic sports? BYU blows Utah away.”

    Really? Then where’s your P5 invite? And if your Olympic sports are so superior, why had you lost 6 of the last 7 Deseret First Duels? All-sports head-to-head seems to favor your big brother on the hill. You seem to be under the delusion that we have some “catching up” to do with your “Band of Small-ballers”, but we don’t. We’d already passed you by. And it wasn’t even “just recently” either. We’d passed your program over a quarter century ago.

    It’s time for you ankle-biting little brothers to hop off our coattails, and tell your alumni in the churchislature to cease threatening educational funding cuts if we don’t play you. Go be rivals with Utah St and/or UVU.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 17, 2019 11:11 a.m.

    @ Naval Vet,

    Utah is a "rival" to BYu only! I know so many Utes, including I, that have written to everyone at Utah to cancel all things BYu. But, the same folks that own BYu also own the Utah state government too. Our only hope is those owners get tired of losing so much money. Until then, we're in a meaningless quandary.

  • BlueCoug Provo, UT
    May 17, 2019 10:52 a.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    "I hear ya buddy! I also loved my record player, tiny portable b & w tv, and 4 function calculator too!!!!!!"

    Slide rules owned the day before the LaVell Edwards era began.

    Pre-1965, BYU had never won a conference title.

    Since then, BYU has won 23 conference titles; Utah only 6.

    Things sometimes change quickly, often when least expected.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 17, 2019 10:46 a.m.

    Cougsndawgs (cont.):

    Stanford was. So to was Cal. UWa and UCLA were a bit further away, and neither of them were claiming to be the Harvard of the West. But they were a LOT closer in the rankings to Harvard than the Y.

    We Ute fans know that you Y fans are desperately trying to perpetuate the narrative that we’re rivals, and hate the fact that we keep damaging your case by refuting it. You need our silence on the matter, but that ain’t gonna happen. We’ve carried you all long enough. It’s time you finally got off our coattails. Go be rivals with Utah St.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 17, 2019 10:39 a.m.

    Cougsndawgs:

    "So apparently Utah's 'brand new AD' is not smart enough to use real metrics and marketing analysis for scheduling, so he needs to rely on the 'smarter-than-you' cUte fans posting frantically on the DN to get the message?"

    It's not an "either/or" scenerio. Where do you think the marketing analysis comes from? Social media is a major source. I seriously doubt DNews and Trib comment threads would be ignored.

    Additionally, the posters on these threads aren't the only ones reading. Ute fans consistently shoot down those cougie myths that are introduced herein, but not mentioned in the article. And that's necessary. I remember during my time studying at the Y all the unchecked myths that were perpetuated down there, that everybody just "believed" because nobody bothered to fact check them. One of the first ones I remembered hearing was that "We're the Harvard of the West". I must've been on campus for about a week before that one had been repeated to me -- multiple times. I remembered going to the Bookstore and looking in the aisles with all those "Best Colleges" books, but failed to see the Y mentioned anywhere in the vicinity of Harvard.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 17, 2019 10:37 a.m.

    @ Blue Coug,

    I hear ya buddy! I also loved my record player, tiny portable b & w tv, and 4 function calculator too!!!!!! Good times and great memories.......but, everyone seeks hope and a future every darn day........ I fail to see that in BYu revenue sports for the many past years here in the 21st century and there is no light looking forward, as it relates to football and basketball, my important friend. It is what it "is."

  • BlueCoug Provo, UT
    May 17, 2019 10:13 a.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum - "I guess all this feuding over BYU's analog/WAC era accomplishments is something that should mean something in the 21st century?"

    Legacy accomplishments will always be treasured by those who have them.

  • Lone*Star Austin, TX
    May 17, 2019 10:05 a.m.

    utemythology

    "Fact is, we cancelled the series and Ute Nation approved while Cougar Nation cried a river to the state legislature."

    NOPE, that's nothing but Ute fan fiction.

    80k cancelled an already scheduled BASKETBALL game at BYU and the audit was conducted to see what other wasteful spending of taxpayer money was going on up on the hill.

    It had absolutely NOTHING to do with FOOTBALL.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 17, 2019 10:02 a.m.

    @ Cougsndawgs,

    Hello dear man and I hope all is well!!!! I'm feel'n kinda jazzed about my Utes possibly makin' some noise and your Dawgs earning a CFP birth in 2019. I look forward to sharing advice and thoughts again this season! All the best brother! Mike.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 17, 2019 9:44 a.m.

    NV:
    "If we DON'T complain, and constantly point out how you're NOT our rival, then how will our brand new AD know that those "great rivalry" [tall]tales he keeps hearing about...

    ...are all coming from YOUR fanbase? Not ours!"

    Obviously, I'm late getting back to the party here...ND95CA, well done mate. I think this is the weakest/funniest excuse for posting rivalry drivel on a softball article I've ever seen lol.

    So apparently Utah's "brand new AD" is not smart enough to use real metrics and marketing analysis for scheduling, so he needs to rely on the "smarter-than-you" cUte fans posting frantically on the DN to get the message? That is absolutely priceless! Lol

    The obsession (and now feeble excuses) have provided us great joy. Bravo!

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 17, 2019 9:35 a.m.

    I guess all this feuding over BYu's analog/WAC era accomplishments is something that should mean something in the 21st century? Well, it does NOT, and that odd blip on the CF radar is gone for forever folks. BYu hoops and football is in no conversation of importance these days, and never will be EVER again.

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    May 17, 2019 8:25 a.m.

    Bluto: "Utah can play football for another 100 years and not achieve in football what BYU has already done, i.e. been awarded every major award which College Football has to offer.

    utemythology: "So has Yale, Princeton, Navy."

    How does it feel to be inferior to Yale, Princeton and Navy.

    Here's a clue:

    ONE Consensus National Championship during the Poll era (since 1936)

    is far superior to

    an infinite number of also-ran CFP rankings.

    CFP-ranked Utah 2018, wasn't even good enough to be final ranked in AP or Coaches.

    Bring on the meaningless SOS comparisons; you're obviously oblivious to the fact that there's never been an award for having the toughest SOS.

  • Squirtle ,
    May 17, 2019 8:03 a.m.

    @Uteology

    "Who is going to sniff a CFP ranking first, BYU, Yale, Princeton, or Navy?"

    In an effort to ignore the snark and actually have a mature dialog, I will answer your question. Navy will. Yale and Princeton in the modern era can't pull the size athletes to compete. Navy has a lighter early season schedule and has proven to be able to compete against mid to lower tier teams. BYU simply has too tough of an early schedule to make to the first week of CFP rankings with a winning record. Ultimately in a good year they could get to 9 or 10 wins, but that doesn't guarantee anything.

    The problem with most non-P5 programs is that their schedules are usually front loaded and they are playing teams ranked ahead of them. In contrast teams like Utah play low G5's and mid to low P5's OOC in the front end. Even when they get to their conference schedule they are guaranteed of playing half on their home field. While the teams you mention above as well as all other non-P5's play their tough, front-loaded schedule almost exclusively on the road.

    And Uteology, please don't confuse this as either an excuse or stating BYU is currently better than Utah. It isn't and they are not.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 16, 2019 11:22 p.m.

    Bluto - Sandy, UT
    May 16, 2019 6:07 p.m.
    Oh Naval

    You've carried BYU?
    That's hysterical.

    Utah can play football for another 100 years and not achieve in football what BYU has already done, i.e. been awarded every major award which College Football has to offer.

    --------

    So has Yale, Princeton, Navy.

    Who is going to sniff a CFP ranking first, BYU, Yale, Princeton, or Navy?

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 16, 2019 11:20 p.m.

    @Snack WAC - Olympus Cove, Utah

    “We’ve carried you long enough...”

    Unlike the decades BYU carried U when you weren’t even good enough to play in a bowl game,

    U haven’t carried diddly squat.

    In fact, you’re still leaching off of the big boys of your new conference, just like U have for the vast majority of your football existence.

    ----------

    BYU was a big boy in conference?

    Nope! BYU was a high school team before Edwards, BYU is a high school team now.

    We're doing you a favor by giving you a long term home and home series with a P5. Unlike what you did to Utah State, 2 for 1 for years.

    It doesn't matter where we play, since Utah is 7-3 at LES over the last 2 decades.

    Fact is, we cancelled the series and Ute Nation approved while Cougar Nation cried a river to the state legislature.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    May 16, 2019 6:07 p.m.

    Oh Naval

    You've carried BYU?
    That's hysterical.

    Utah can play football for another 100 years and not achieve in football what BYU has already done, i.e. been awarded every major award which College Football has to offer.
    No need to name them all, you know the drill.

    As for the Olympic sports? BYU blows Utah away.

    Go outside your bubble, wherever it is this week, and ask anyone across this country, and you will find that BYU has more name recognition than the Utah-Washington Generals, ever will have.

    The "U" can't just talk themselves into Legacy/National Brand status. That comes with accomplishment, not False Bravado.

    Again, Utah has never ranked ahead of BYU in the all important Directors Cup (which counts all of the Olympic Sports) which the Pac-12 endlessly touts.

    Utah has only won 3 Conference Championships (out of over 120 awarded) in 8+ years of competing in the Pac.
    That my friend, is how "U" define coat-tails.

    Every P-5 Conference is made up of Blue Blood Legacy schools and are also loaded with Wannabee/ Coat-Tail programs. (see Utah).

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    May 16, 2019 5:53 p.m.

    navelvet

    “We’ve carried you long enough...”

    Unlike the decades BYU carried U when you weren’t even good enough to play in a bowl game,

    U haven’t carried diddly squat.

    In fact, you’re still leaching off of the big boys of your new conference, just like U have for the vast majority of your football existence.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 16, 2019 3:22 p.m.

    arrogant chickens (cont.):

    We’ve carried you long enough. If indy-irrelevance is as rousing of a success as you all constantly claim it to be, then PROVE it! Get off our coattails!

    Own it little bro. This “rivalry” is a one-sided one. As in, we’re YOUR “rivals”, but you’re NOT ours!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 16, 2019 3:22 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs:

    "You were the FIRST one to comment on the softball article. And the first words you typed are about the rivalry...the Deseret First Duel. Not congrats to the lady Utes, not how proud you are of the softball team or Utah athletics, but about your rival in the DFD."

    Actually little bro, what I'd posted was a highlight of how uncompetitive ybU-p has been in our season-long head-to-head matchups. That's an indication that you're NOT our rival. The DFD measures our programs' head-to-head games. But just because they do so, that doesn't make them our "rival". It makes it a holdover from our MWC years, back when we USED to be rivals. But we're not anymore. And that's why the point spread is so large between us. That's what I was pointing out on an article that just so happened to be following a Softball game.

    #AnotherCougarLogicFail

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 16, 2019 2:33 p.m.

    Jello is Good:

    "What a laugh. The fact that you chuckleheads come on these boards countless times to claim you have passed BYU by and no longer care only proves that you desperately care..."

    What a frantic and emotional thing to say. We know that each time you indy-WACers say stuff like that, it's because you're desperate. You think "reverse psychology" works on people who are smarter than you? It's like I'd already told you little brothers before. If we DON'T complain, and constantly point out how you're NOT our rival, then how will our brand new AD know that those "great rivalry" [tall]tales he keeps hearing about...

    ...are all coming from YOUR fanbase? Not ours!

    Reverse psychology only works on weak minds. Not on Ute fans. So please -- it's time for you guys to get off our coattails. Or at the very least, go jump on Utah State's. You might get a "rivalry" from them for the time being.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 16, 2019 2:07 p.m.

    "You won't because I...Don't...CARE! That is moving on."

    coogRR:

    Ahh, but weren't you one of the vehement complainers when Utah dropped BYU-P for two years in football, and cancelled the b-ball game?

    If coog fans have moved on, they shouldn't still be whining about Ute fans wanting to drop the coogs. Contact your AD and Greg Hughes and tell them to let it go.

  • RR Omaha, NE
    May 16, 2019 1:44 p.m.

    Dear John,
    That is a weak excuse. That doesn't explain why you and your pals are here everyday day on every BYU article. Look at your articles and see if you find me. You won't because I...Don't...CARE! That is moving on.

    Do we have to Dear John you for reals? This needy ex-girlfriend attachment for all things BYU is beyond old. Move on. It's past time.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 16, 2019 1:40 p.m.

    Striker:

    We're still here because we keep seeing your "Band of Small-ballers" on our schedule. Duh! If nobody complains, how can we expect our brand new Athletic Director to drop you guys? He keeps hearing that this is an amazing rivalry...

    ...but he's hearing it from YOU guys!

    Not us!

    The more Ute fans call for change, the sooner we'll be seeing other teams on our schedule(s) in lieu of yours.

    You seriously couldn't figure that one out on your own?

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 16, 2019 1:08 p.m.

    "IF that is true, why are you and co. still here, years and years later. Answer us that."

    striken:

    1. Because it IS an article about the latest Utah/BYU-P game. Duh!
    2. Because Greg Hughes and you clingy coog fans just won't let go, even though Ute fans clearly want to.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    May 16, 2019 1:08 p.m.

    You're still on all of our schedules, plus the fact that ponies and rainbows and exaggerated glory are written in the local media every day. It's fun to counter the claims and bring reality.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    May 16, 2019 12:57 p.m.

    Win or lose, just having us on their schedule is huge for byu. They're not that independent and the wcc provides little if any satisfaction.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    May 16, 2019 12:51 p.m.

    Naval Vet,
    Well put. The byu administration, state legislature, and local media know that byu would never survive if they were to truly move on from depending on Utah.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    May 16, 2019 12:30 p.m.

    "But Utah had moved on since then, and the DFD remains just a holdover from our prior era"

    Annialated naval fleet,

    IF that is true, why are you and co. still here, years and years later. Answer us that.

  • Cougsndawgs91 West Point, UT
    May 16, 2019 12:12 p.m.

    SpokaneUte:
    "...kind of cool when a team like Coastal Carolina can sneak up and win one."

    Yeah that was a fun one to watch a couple years ago. That was a good team that I think just took it to another level during the CWS. I wish baseball got as much pub as basketball because the post season has a very "March Madness" feel to it.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 16, 2019 11:55 a.m.

    arrogant chickens:

    "Very first comment on the article about the BYU-Utah softball game: ‘That brings Utah up to a 23-12 lead in the Deseret First Duel. Is there a "mercy rule" in this contest?’…..The Deseret First Duel was created to measure the rivalry across a few, very carefully chosen sports…..Why even mention it, if it's supposedly ‘meaningless’?."

    Not quite little bro. First of all, the DFD was created to measure the rivalry back when we USED to be rivals – i.e. during our MWC years. But Utah had moved on since then, and the DFD remains just a holdover from our prior era. The point that was mentioned was that a 23-12 lead is neither “competitive”, nor an “anomaly”. You guys have been getting trounced for years now. The point in mentioning that, is to further illustrate why we shouldn’t be wasting our time, bending over backwards, to gift you all any contests -- other than the occasional “one-offs” played on the hill. The point in mentioning it is to further refute cougarnation’s self-serving claims of competitiveness, in order to continue our series, because of how badly you all NEED us for your program(s) to survive.

  • JackRyanSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    May 16, 2019 11:39 a.m.

    Utah haters or BYU lovers...whatever you prefer to call it. Most of us know we are a down baseball program even though we have won a PAC12 championship since coming into the league. BYU always has had a solid baseball program. But before you pile on a team that you went 1-1 with that also is at the bottom of the PAC12 this year, remind me again about how many CWW appearances you have been in or even how many regionals you have made it to? This debate is like the 290 pound person calling the 300 pound person fat because he weighs 10 more pounds.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 16, 2019 11:32 a.m.

    "The Deseret First Duel was created to measure the rivalry across a few, very carefully chosen sports.
    Why even mention it"

    arrogant coogs:

    - Yeah, those "very carefully chosen sports" being the ones in which Utah actually plays BYU-P. DFCU "very carefully" chose not to include skiing, men's volleyball, men's track, men's lacrosse, and women's golf.

    - So we can counter the BYU-P brag about non head-to-head learfield mug standings.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 16, 2019 11:17 a.m.

    NV:
    You were the FIRST one to comment on the softball article. And the first words you typed are about the rivalry...the Deseret First Duel. Not congrats to the lady Utes, not how proud you are of the softball team or Utah athletics, but about your rival in the DFD.

    I'm sorry, no one can hear your excuses and spin because your actions are talking so loud. They suggest you are obsessed with your rival...so much so that you had to be the FIRST one talking about them on said article. You're done. Stop trying to deflect with nonsense about delusions and calling people "little bro"...YOUR words are there for anyone to see.

    And FWIW not only am I not your "bro", I'm pretty sure I'm your daddy. Now get going, the lawn isn't going to mow itself.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    May 16, 2019 10:57 a.m.

    The PAC 12 and SEC are the current big dogs in baseball, and Oregon State has become a national powerhouse, but BYU still owns Utah in baseball.

    Utah fans can beat their chests all they want to about how many good teams the Utes have lost to, but that still doesn't make the Utes any good.

  • arrogant chickens Sandy, UT
    May 16, 2019 10:51 a.m.

    Proof positive that, despite his frantic and emotional denials, navel vet still considers BYU a rival,

    Very first comment on the article about the BYU-Utah softball game:

    Naval Vet - Philadelphia, PA
    May 1, 2019 11:24 p.m.
    "That brings Utah up to a 23-12 lead in the Deseret First Duel. Is there a "mercy rule" in this contest?"

    The Deseret First Duel was created to measure the rivalry across a few, very carefully chosen sports.

    Why even mention it, if it's supposedly "meaningless"?

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 16, 2019 10:42 a.m.

    "Utah is just plain awful in baseball and has been for years."

    damfam:

    Well, that's a bit of hyperbole, particularly since Utah is 1-1 against BYU-P this year.

    So tell us, how many NCAA appearances have your mighty coogs made in the last 10 years?

  • arrogant chickens Sandy, UT
    May 16, 2019 10:36 a.m.

    @FailUteLogic

    Whatever

  • arrogant chickens Sandy, UT
    May 16, 2019 10:33 a.m.

    Try as they might, the Utes will never be able to put the BYU-Utah rivalry behind them.

    Sure, the Utes have developed some limited rivalries with specific teams in specific sports - UCLA in gymnastics - but overall

    There's not a team on the planet that Ute fans love beating and hate losing to more than BYU.

    Even when Utah dropped BYU to schedule Michigan, EVERY SINGLE BYU article throughout both seasons was inundated with comments from Ute fans.

    Forget that BYU and Utah played in the Las Vegas Bowl one of those seasons, because nobody knew that was going to happen until the end of the regular season.

    The truth is, Utah fans "claiming" that BYU is no longer Utah's rival is the social media equivalent of a 2nd grader who found the golden ticket sticking his tongue out at a classmate who wasn't so fortunate.

    As far as Utah State now being equal to BYU as Utah's rival, the Utes won't even schedule the Aggies, because the Aggies are so "beneath them" and the Utes are scared to death of playing in Logan.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    May 16, 2019 10:32 a.m.

    Cougsndawgs - West Point , UT
    May 16, 2019 9:11 a.m.

    SpokaneUte:
    "No kidding; especially considering that Oregon State won the NC last year and the PAC 12 has won it 3 of the last 7. Talk about highly over rated."

    Agreed, the Pac12 and SEC are the big dogs in CBB. And Oregon State is a national powerhouse (pretty sure they've won it a few times before but haven't looked it up). How do you see it shaking out this year? Seems like it's shaping up to be Pac12 or SEC again...I'd love to see my Diamond Dawgs win it, but they've shown some chinks in the armor lately (had some injuries).
    ---------
    I think you are spot on. The SEC and PAC 12 have one 5 of the last 7 championships and the top 5 teams are from those two conferences. I look forward to watching, kind of cool when a team like Coastal Carolina can sneak up and win one. Thanks for the civil dialogue as always; I hope all is well my friend.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 16, 2019 10:32 a.m.

    Striker:

    How could my ship have been sunk when the "facts" Cougsndawgs used to refute me were in fact false? If you have to use false data to defend your position, it only proves that you'd already lost the argument. So in that sense, it was MY ship that had been sunk. It was my ship that had sunk Cougsndawgs. How embarrassing for you both.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 16, 2019 10:31 a.m.

    Jumbojimbo:

    "You were so quick to discuss the 11 loss in a row vs the 1 loss in a row, which means you didn't understand the article."

    Straw man! I discussed no such thing. All I'd asked was "11 what in a row?"

    And that was IT!

    "Because you are blinded by your dislike for BYU."

    Wrong. I was blinded by my "disinterest in baseball".

    "Your dislike for BYU is more powerful than your love of the U."

    You just made that up. How frantic and emotional of you. But the fact that you'd stake that claim tells us a lot about you. It suggests that you're projecting your own hatred of Utah, which exceeds your love of the Y. Typical hypocritical coug.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 16, 2019 10:20 a.m.

    Jumbojimbo:

    "You were so quick to discuss the 11 loss in a row vs the 1 loss in a row, which means you didn't understand the article."

    Straw man! I discussed no such thing. All I'd asked was "11 what in a row?"

    And that was IT!

    "Because you are blinded by your dislike for BYU."

    Wrong. I was blinded by my "disinterest in baseball".

    "Your dislike for BYU is more powerful than your love of the U."

    You just made that up. How frantic and emotional of you. But the fact that you'd stake that claim tells us a lot about you. It suggests that you're projecting your own hatred of Utah, which exceeds your love of the Y. Typical hypocritical coug.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 16, 2019 10:13 a.m.

    Striker:

    How could my ship have been sunk when the "facts" Cougsndawgs used to refute me were in fact false? If you have to use false data to defend your position, it only proves that you'd already lost the argument. So in that sense, it was MY ship that had been sunk. It was my ship that had sunk Cougsndawgs. How embarrassing for you both.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 16, 2019 10:10 a.m.

    4601:

    "The more one claims that BYU is not Utah's rival, the more it confirms a rivalry."

    No it doesn't. You just made that up. How frantic and emotional of you. What would somebody say if we don't consider you to be our rival?

    Answer: "You're NOT our rival!"

    And every time some desperate frantic and emotional indy-WACer suggests they are, we'll argue that you're NOT! Because you're NOT! Get it?

    And besides, if saying you're NOT our rival really DID mean that you were, then the opposite would have to also be true. So every time you guys claim that you ARE our rival, then that would have to confirm that you're NOT! Are you gonna make that point?

    #FailCougarLogic

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 16, 2019 10:10 a.m.

    Cougsndawgs:

    Pointing out how you guys are NOT competitive against us in the majority of our head-to-head meetings does NOT validate that we're "rivals". It rather points the other way -- that we're NOT!

    And what's up with that "10 of the first 15 posts" nonsense? It's factually inaccurate, and wholly irrelevant!

    For starters, Ute fans consisted of 9 of the first 15 posts. Not 10. You’d just made that up. How frantic and emotional of you.

    Second, those 9 Ute posts came from only 4 Ute posters. On the flip side, your 6 came from 5 fans.

    Third, as I’d already pointed out, cougar fans left more posts, and outnumbered the Utes on that thread by over 2-to-1.

    And finally, not ONE of those 9 Ute posters over there call -- or consider you guys to be -- our "rival". In fact, some of those posts were pointing out how you're NOT! How about instead of just "counting" the posts, try "reading" them for context.

    Look little bro. There’s NO questions that you all consider us to be your biggest rival. But that doesn’t mean that we feel the same way about you. You’re not competitive against us, and we don’t consider you to be our rival. Don’t be so delusional.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 16, 2019 10:09 a.m.

    Y’s little brother:

    "It's interesting how we never see any comments from your PAC 12 'rivals' on this blog,"

    Ah! So YOU'RE not buying that nonsense about all those fans who post here alleging to be Husky, Duck, Trojan, Bruin, Sun Devil, and Wildcat alumni either, eh?

    Haha Y fans. Even your own fellow fans are calling you guys liars now!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 16, 2019 10:09 a.m.

    Cougsndawgs (cont.):

    3. It’s hilarious how Y fans clamor to an article when they win, but either run away, or pretend to be a fan of some OTHER team when they lose. There were 9 Ute fans posting on that Softball article. But as of the time this post, there are 11 over here. As in, there are MORE Ute fans posting – the loss notwithstanding. Can ybU-p fans say the same?

    Nope. There are more cougar fans posting after the win than who come around following a loss.

    Typical hypocritical coug.

  • Dmanfam Bountiful, UT
    May 16, 2019 9:18 a.m.

    AZUTE: JOHNinslc:

    Byu just beat up on the Utes and I see no reason to bring up the red rocks. You seem obsessed over the byu-utah topic. Try to stay on point and get off your high horses. Like another person commented, Utah fans need to realize that they really really are a lower tier pac 12 team of the weakest p5 conferences. Why keep bringing up football when the Utes haven't made hardly any noise worth mentioning since joining. Truth hurts but it is the truth. Everyone have a great day and please remember to think before you send. Average is average and since joining the almighty pac 10 to many people outside Utah and Colorado. Utah is just plain awful in baseball and has been for years. This is a fact. Please accept that you are not the powerhouse you think you are just becuse of your conference association. This being said, Byu just plain beat the Utes bad. Byu has a much better team and that's that. Red rocks don't play baseball either and as we all know gymnastics is not mentioned in this baseball article. Accept defeat for once without another excuse please?

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 16, 2019 9:11 a.m.

    SpokaneUte:
    "No kidding; especially considering that Oregon State won the NC last year and the PAC 12 has won it 3 of the last 7. Talk about highly over rated."

    Agreed, the Pac12 and SEC are the big dogs in CBB. And Oregon State is a national powerhouse (pretty sure they've won it a few times before but haven't looked it up). How do you see it shaking out this year? Seems like it's shaping up to be Pac12 or SEC again...I'd love to see my Diamond Dawgs win it, but they've shown some chinks in the armor lately (had some injuries).

  • JackRyanSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    May 16, 2019 8:53 a.m.

    As a big Ute booster...Utah will never be a consistent PAC12 threat or national power in baseball until the University and Salt Lake City commit to the program. Salt Lake City's unwillingness to sell critical real estate for a new stadium and facility is a sad reality. Yes, we live in a cold climate, but Oregon State has built a powerhouse based on funding and facilities...until Utah will build it's own baseball stadium and best of class facilities supporting it...we will continue to fail.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 16, 2019 8:52 a.m.

    @CougsandDawgs

    (continued)
    Again this is just my response.

    What about me and my "emotional investment" regarding the Y?
    The 20+ years of the Edwards era will never be forgotten. Not nearly so much for the total dominance as for how they did it (in my mind) I understood the Y was trying to enhance national perception but to win by as much as possible will always be somewhere in my mind. That said, To me over the past 9 years the Y has become equivalent with Utah State as an opponent. And I hate (emotional investment) that Utah handicaps ourselves by playing the Y every year. 3 non conference games: we limit our recruiting exposure, our P-5 opponents, our variety of opponents, etc.
    One last thing. I hate the Y for Speaker Hughes! (Now that's emotional investment!) Our game will always be known as the "Speaker Hughes implied threats" game to me!

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 16, 2019 8:35 a.m.

    @Cougsndawgs

    "So honest question then for U fans...if BYU isn't your rival (which is fine, I get it), then who really is? Colorado? ASU? Because I just don't see the emotional investment with those programs with U fans that I see with BYU. Those games may be more important, but rivalries? .... Is there anyone besides BYU that elicits that response from U fans? Or is a rivalry more about competition than loathing for U...again, honest question.

    The honest question is for U fans. I can only respond for one Ute fan - me. It's been 9 years of transition. Can I say there is any one PAC-12 team that has the same (or stronger) "emotional investment" for me that the Y once held? No. But then again Utah has only competed against them as conference members where as it was over a century competing against the Y. I have no fear with time my response will be different!

    I can say I love to compete with USC (after all it is USC); I hate (emotional investment?) Arizona in basketball. (I hope Miller serves time!) His $ cost Utah at least 2 top recruits. Washington, Arizona State, and Colorado have defeated us in some key football games. I hate the Ducks with their Nike $'s.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    May 16, 2019 8:34 a.m.

    worf - McAllen, TX
    May 16, 2019 12:10 a.m.

    PAC12 is just highly over rated.
    ----------
    No kidding; especially considering that Oregon State won the NC last year and the PAC 12 has won it 3 of the last 7. Talk about highly over rated.

    Good Greif Dude!

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    May 16, 2019 4:45 a.m.

    "Next time do some research, especially when it's your own statements that betray you lol."

    And the naval ship gets sunk big time!!

  • worf McAllen, TX
    May 16, 2019 12:10 a.m.

    PAC12 is just highly over rated.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    May 15, 2019 10:54 p.m.

    AZUTE1

    The #155 Utes would be cellar dwellers in the WCC.

    BYU is 20 games above .500, ranked in the Top 25, and a virtual lock for an NCAA bid.

    Utah is 20 games below .500, and will be spending tournament time on the couch. as usual.

    Sorry to burst your crimson bubble, but there aren’t any real trophies awarded for SOS.

    Winners celebrate where the are ranked.

    Losers celebrate where their opponents are, because they helped to put them there

  • Jumbojimbo Cheyenne, WY
    May 15, 2019 8:57 p.m.

    Naval Vet.
    Sorry, I will explain my logic. I love my Cougars. I follow all of their team sports. I don't follow the U. I didn't even know about the 11 game losing streak. You were so quick to discuss the 11 loss in a row vs the 1 loss in a row, which means you didn't understand the article. Why? Because you are blinded by your dislike for BYU. If you followed Utah as much as you say, you would have known the facts. Your dislike for BYU is more powerful than your love of the U.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 15, 2019 8:01 p.m.

    “So much respect for Greg Marsden! He should be the face of Utah sports but because it's gymnastics there are many U fans who don't even know who he is.”

    Are you really so ignorant as to believe our vast Red Rocks fanbase doesn’t know who GM is? Seriously?

    Stop flattering yourself.

    Go Utes!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 15, 2019 7:53 p.m.

    “It's a shame more U fans don't post and comment and get behind their Red Rocks on these articles.....”

    These threads don’t even remotely define our Red Rocks fanhood.....Merely reference our vast JMHC crowds as evidence.

    Go Utes!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 15, 2019 7:46 p.m.

    byu’s padded their record playing against one of the nation’s weakest schedules [#96 SOS] & it wouldn’t be even remotely as it is playing against our schedule [#11 SOS].

    Pray your team wins their conference tourney, since the wcc never receives any at-large postseason bids [nor does their auto-bid recipient ever advance out of their Regional].

    Go Utes!

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    May 15, 2019 7:38 p.m.

    THEREALND

    Utah fans were spouting off about the Deseret Duel from the very first post.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 15, 2019 7:21 p.m.

    Mike:
    "After the Gym Dawgs beat the Red Rocks this year, I read the "barb" you threw up here on the DNews."

    All in good fun my friend. You know I love the GymDawgs so I had to post something...I think I was the only one that commented on that thread also right? I'll have to go back and see. Anyway, you should have posted just so we could talk about it. It's a shame more U fans don't post and comment and get behind their Red Rocks on these articles like you do. They are legit...and at the risk of offending my BYU brethren, I'm truly a fan of Utah gymnastics.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 15, 2019 7:08 p.m.

    Who am I?
    "So the Cougs are our rivals - just as USC, UCLA, Ariz, Ariz. State, Colorado, Oregon, Ore. St., Washington, Wash. State, Stanford, and California. And I love these rivalries!"

    I agree with pretty much everything you've said. Rivalries are a fan thing mostly...yes it matters to players and coaches, but probably not as much as it matters to fans. For Utah winning in the Pac12 is more important than beating BYU and that's understandable. But it's still fun to rib Ute fans, and I'm sure it's entertaining for y'all to rib Y fans.

    So honest question then for U fans...if BYU isn't your rival (which is fine, I get it), then who really is? Colorado? ASU? Because I just don't see the emotional investment with those programs with U fans that I see with BYU. Those games may be more important, but rivalries? It's like my loathing for GT...that game means absolutely nothing (most of the time) but I still can't help disliking the bugs (not as much as the lizards but still...I can't stand them lol). Is there anyone besides BYU that elicits that response from U fans? Or is a rivalry more about competition than loathing for U...again, honest question.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    May 15, 2019 5:52 p.m.

    I don't recall the same emphasis on the "rivalry" when Utah won the first game between the two teams.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 15, 2019 5:38 p.m.

    Navel vet

    The more one claims that BYU is not Utah's rival, the more it confirms a rivalry.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 15, 2019 3:47 p.m.

    Navy Vet:
    "1. The comments in the aforementioned "softball article"...were primarily from cougar fans -- who'd outnumbered the number of Ute fans by over 2-to-1. Typical hypocritical coug.

    2. Ute fans weren't recognizing that game as a "rivalry" over there either."

    =====================

    So the fact that YOU were the first one to jump on aforementioned article stating, "That brings Utah up to a 23-12 lead in the Deseret First Duel" suggests you didn't think it's a rivalry? Just for fun Navel, what teams compete in the DFD? So to be clear it's your position that U fans didn't think softball is a rivalry "over there either" despite the fact that YOU were the first one bringing it up in the softball article? LOL!

    And it's also your position that I'M the hypocrite and making stuff up, when it's YOUR post on said article that proves otherwise?! How embarrassing for you.

    FWIW 10 of the first 15 posts on the softball article were U fans either bragging about softball or denigrating BYU or both (or in your case bragging about the DFD...which of course has nothing to do with the "rivalry" lol). Next time do some research, especially when it's your own statements that betray you lol.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 15, 2019 3:44 p.m.

    @swoop

    "The hypocrisy on the hill regarding when BYU-Utah are rivals, or not, is
    Hill-ar-ious!."

    Thanks for your post.

    Hypocrisy definition is - a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not : behavior that contradicts what one claims to believe

    By definition it is not hypocrisy when one person's (me in this case) comment is not consistent with what another person said.

    I will give you credit for providing a quote of a Utah player calling the BYU/Utah game a rivalry. I wondered if there would not be such a statement. (I did wonder when the game was that you quoted but I suspect it was the game earlier this year or last year.)

    I will defend my comment which was in response to a poster saying perhaps it was because no one cared what a Utah coach or player said. I then said it appeared the 3 writers did not appear to care because not one quoted a Utah player/coach. Prove this comment wrong.

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    May 15, 2019 3:35 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum -

    @ Swoop,

    "BYU is not a rival to Utah, not even in men's hoops any longer, the only "rivalry" we ever shared with BYU in fact. It is that simple. We are in the big time and care about PAC games"

    Whatever...

    Your continual obsession with all things BYU says otherwise.

    It's interesting how we never see any comments from your PAC 12 "rivals" on this blog,

    yet every BYU article is inundated with comments from Ute fans from all over the country.

    Why is that?

    Do Ute fans get a special discount for logging into the DNews that Colorado, ASU, and UCLA fans don't?

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    May 15, 2019 3:31 p.m.

    RIVAL?
    He He

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 15, 2019 3:16 p.m.

    @ Swoop,

    BYu is not a rival to Utah, not even in men's hoops any longer, the only "rivalry" we ever shared with BYu in fact. It is that simple. We are in the big time and care about PAC games and when our teams compete nationally.

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    May 15, 2019 2:59 p.m.

    whoami

    After a BYU win:

    "What a rivalry when nobody cares what U baseball players/coaches think. Mr. Kragthorpe, Mr. Monson, nor Mr. Facer appear not to care. No. BYU vs Utah is a "rivalry" we say so and these BYU coaches and players say so. So we don't care what the U baseball players/coaches think."

    After a Utah win:

    Utah third baseman Rykker Tom drove in a pair of runs with a two-out triple in the bottom of the eighth inning as the Utes upset the Cougars 8-6. “It’s always fun to play your rival and come out on top,” said Tom, who hit the game-winner off a fast ball from Drew Zimmerman. “I just happened to connect.”

    The hypocrisy on the hill regarding when BYU-Utah are rivals, or not, is

    Hill-ar-ious!.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 15, 2019 2:46 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs:

    "It's also hilarious how U fans clamor to a softball article when they win, but now don't recognize the 'rivalry' when they're embarrassed by how awful their baseball team is"

    Not as hilarious as when Y fans get busted for hypocrisy and just plain making stuff up. Take YOU for example....

    1. The comments in the aforementioned "softball article" (re: "Ally Dickman's big cay at the plate leads Utah Utes to 11-2 win over BYU Cougars") were primarily from cougar fans -- who'd outnumbered the number of Ute fans by over 2-to-1. Typical hypocritical coug.

    2. Ute fans weren't recognizing that game as a "rivalry" over there either.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 15, 2019 2:43 p.m.

    @ Cougsndawgs,

    After the Gym Dawgs beat the Red Rocks this year, I read the "barb" you threw up here on the DNews. I didn't utter one peep or respond to your post. What could I actually say? NOTHING!!!! We lost to a great team in UGA and that is the deal. I hope we beat UGA the next meet and at nationals.

    Hugs man! Mike.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 15, 2019 2:27 p.m.

    @Cougsndawgs

    "Or perhaps nobody cares what U baseball players/coaches think."

    Hammer meets the nail head. Eloquent. Well said. That was my point. What a rivalry when nobody cares what U baseball players/coaches think. Mr. Kragthorpe, Mr. Monson, nor Mr. Facer appear not to care. No. BYU vs Utah is a "rivalry" we say so and these BYU coaches and players say so. So we don't care what the U baseball players/coaches think. Unless, of course, they were to support what we say.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 15, 2019 2:16 p.m.

    Utah-HI Alum (Mike):
    "Cougsndawgs and I know a REAL RIVALRY.........His UGA "Gym Dawgs" vs Utah's "Red Rocks."

    Amen brother! Gymdogs and Red Rocks are both blue blood gymnastics programs, and often vying for NCs against each other. So much respect for Greg Marsden! He should be the face of Utah sports but because it's gymnastics there are many U fans who don't even know who he is. I loved taking my daughters to Red Rocks meets, and we saw the Gymdogs beat the Red Rocks at the HC to win it all a few years back...one of the best meets I've watched and my daughter was mesmerized. Hopefully the Red Rocks can get one soon, it's been too long and they've had the talent. Cheers my friend!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 15, 2019 2:15 p.m.

    Jumbojimbo:

    “Your lack of Utah baseball following solidifies your hatred of BYU.”

    What? How does not following baseball equate to hating ybU-p? Your lack of logic solidifies your membership in cougarnation.

  • Max Upstate, NY
    May 15, 2019 2:07 p.m.

    I am always entertained when a Utah fan claims that BYU is not their rival.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 15, 2019 1:49 p.m.

    @ Gandalph,

    I made a mistake. It was "Striker" that made that claim. I can't keep all U cougies straight, but the false claims/dreams are what y'all have in common however! HAHA!

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    May 15, 2019 1:42 p.m.

    10-3. That's a nice beat down.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 15, 2019 1:36 p.m.

    @ Gandalph,

    Please do not deflect the point of your initial claim.....which I invalidated in a heart-beat, EASILY!!!! Utah-UCLA gymnastics is so bitter......they honestly hate each other!!!!

    Utah is new to the PAC, but there are some interesting potential football rivalries developing in the PAC-south............Utah vs ASU and Utah vs USC. Who knows at this point, but it is there I believe? Colorado has been Utah's historical football rival, along with Utah State since the "leather helmet era," NEVER BYu in football.

    Now, I've been following unreal BYu volleyball since 1984. I never cheer for them, but I appreciate how great they are and the entertainment they provide me. Regardless of BYu vs UCLA volleyball, the Y is not in the PAC, and NEVER will be.

    I hope you understand the facts I presented that disqualified your unfortunate claims you stated? Take care sir.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 15, 2019 1:05 p.m.

    @Cougsndawgs

    " You're right, it's the other Cougs at Wazzu that are your rivals...you're much closer to them in mediocrity on the diamond lol."

    You're right also! It's the other Cougs at Wazzu that are your rivals....! I couldn't have said it any better. In baseball, you are also right this year we are much closer to them (than BYU) This 3 games series every game means something to both team. (Isn't that a criteria for a "rivalry"?) Utah has a two game lead so if we were to lose the three games we would finish below the Cougs. So winning the series is critical - unlike last nights game which meant nothing - well, it was a loss to an opponent.

    Now other sports. Football (is king, right?) WSU has beaten us 3 times since the PAC-12. They have been nationally ranked several of those years! (BYU?)

    So the Cougs are our rivals - just as USC, UCLA, Ariz, Ariz. State, Colorado, Oregon, Ore. St., Washington, Wash. State, Stanford, and California. And I love these rivalries!

  • Gandalph Sandy, UT
    May 15, 2019 1:04 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    "You don't thunk Utah-UCLA gymnastics is NOT a bitter rivalry since Utah joined the PAC?"

    No more so than BYU and UCLA have been bitter rivals in Men's Volleyball since BYU won their first National Championship in 1999.

    BYU is the only program in the country that has a winning record 35-33 overall, 23-10 home, over the 19-time National Champion Bruins.

  • junkmail Salt Lake City, UT
    May 15, 2019 12:55 p.m.

    Brave Sir Robin,

    Simple answer--If Utah had won, you would care. Or do you speak the same way about Utah's gymnastics successes?

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 15, 2019 12:41 p.m.

    "you are a fan and don’t realize you have lost 11 in a row?"

    red-jelly-squirtle-rash:

    My bad. It's just that you coog fans were acting like the Utes had lost the previous 10 to BYU-P.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 15, 2019 12:30 p.m.

    @ Striker,

    You don't thunk Utah-UCLA gymnastics is NOT a bitter rivalry since Utah joined the PAC? Oh my kind sir? Please pay attention! I do know this factoid...........BYu was only EVER a rival to Utah in men's hoops and that has now been deemed redundant for forever. Ya know pal, Utah is in the big time now and BYu is stranded on "Gilligan's Island" until the bitter end..... Cheer up!

  • bemorefair , 00
    May 15, 2019 12:28 p.m.

    All that PAC-12 money and this is the result. hehe I love it! Go Cougars! Great rivalry win. Congrats to Mike Littlewood who is a heckuva manager. So glad we have him.

  • Lone*Star Austin, TX
    May 15, 2019 12:21 p.m.

    CV Sports

    “BYU does very well in the minor sports; baseball, softball, volleyball, soccer, gymnastics, etc. However, when it comes to the marquee sports they don't do so well.”

    There’s absolutely no reason why BYU can’t excel in both minor and marquee sports.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 15, 2019 12:19 p.m.

    @Cougfanintexas

    "LOL. If you've moved on, why do you continue to comment on nearly every BYU article?'

    If a good comment is one that makes you think, then yours is a good comment. Why do I continue to comment on nearly every BYU article?

    Well, for one reason my education taught me to be exposed to many different opinions and ways of thinking. So, yes, I do read most articles in both papers. And I do express my opinion but I try to support my position with facts. Why so many BYU articles? Have you seen how many articles there are about other schools? Specifically, PAC-12 schools. (For whatever reason the media will not promote the fact that Utah (the school and the state) are members of the P-5 conference that excels in both academics and athletics - but that's another story)

    Another reason. I'm retired, with too much time on my hands and too much interest with my school's athletic accomplishments.

    Have I moved on. Judge for yourself. Prior to 2011 I took my boys to the previous 4-6 games at BYU. Since then none. I missed last years paid for game (in season tickets) intentionally - not worth 8:00PM start in late November. I do follow Emrey(!) though.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 15, 2019 12:13 p.m.

    @ Lone star,

    That is about the same percentages as Utah-BYu football? There is no rivalry pards.........only men's hoops. BYu thinks they are "rivals" vs Utah in gymnastics.......can U freak'n believe that? Look up those stats, cowboy! Cheers!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    May 15, 2019 12:00 p.m.

    Lost badly and fair & square. this Utah team is just not very good. Good luck to BYU in the post season; hopefully Gonzaga will be there too.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    May 15, 2019 12:00 p.m.

    "It's also hilarious how U fans clamor to a softball article when they win, but now don't recognize the "rivalry" when they're embarrassed by how awful their baseball team is (apparently some needed to be reminded how awful they were). Classy, typical, U."

    Amen bro! I saw some of those comments and it was all "we own you" and now they lose it's like "11 what"? They don't follow their own team but make obsessive little bro comments any chance they can. I've never seen a fan base who's 'moved on' follow the opposing team more than their own. I have no words to describe it. These words don't exist in any language.

    Little bro, there is a reason why no one in your conference has become your rival... No one likes clingy people!

  • Lone*Star Austin, TX
    May 15, 2019 11:45 a.m.

    Updated Rivalry Record

    BYU 244-116-2

    BYU is 20 games above .500.
    Utah is 20 games below .500.

    Nice symmetry!

    Go Cougs!

  • daver , 00
    May 15, 2019 11:39 a.m.

    Kudos to the Utes for a game well played. They need a little more consistent pitching, which will come. Their coach seems to have brought in a tough minded culture.

    I was actually pretty surprised BYU pulled it out. They were stifled most of the game.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 15, 2019 11:31 a.m.

    Cougsndawgs and I know a REAL RIVALRY.........His UGA "Gym Dawgs" vs Utah's "Red Rocks."

    Now folks, that is a "rivalry" of epic proportions...... for many decades!

  • Jello is Good ,
    May 15, 2019 11:23 a.m.

    Yes, 11 in a row. Utah has lost 11 in a row. Read the article. And you are a fan and don’t realize you have lost 11 in a row?

  • CV Storm Hyrum, UT
    May 15, 2019 11:20 a.m.

    Congratulations to the Cougs, nice win for them. I think this is a huge commentary on where BYU excells and where the administration should put their emphasis. BYU does very well in the minor sports; baseball, softball, volleyball, soccer, gymnastics, etc. However, when it comes to the marquee sports they don't do so well. So perhaps rather than wasting their ESPN money on trying to build a football or basketball program they should try and improve what they do best...minor sports. They are awesome in those.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    May 15, 2019 11:16 a.m.

    I agree with Cougsndawgs wholeheartedly. Utah baseball is a "joke" indeed. I watched the game last night and it was a good game until the 8th inning.......then the Y pounded the tar out of my Utes. It was sad, at best. Utah has never been a rival to BYu in baseball. That is a fallacy!

    As far as the U-Y "rivalry?" We were only EVER rivals in men's basketball and that is now over, thankfully. Cherry picking on both sides is simply ridiculous. Just for giggles.........BYu calls Utah Gymnastics a "rival?" Oh my..... HAHA!

  • Pugman Tremonton, UT
    May 15, 2019 10:53 a.m.

    Oh naval and johnny boy......you've been schooled.

  • Rusty Filter ,
    May 15, 2019 10:36 a.m.

    The u fans keep the rivalry going.

  • CougFaninTX Spring, TX
    May 15, 2019 10:37 a.m.

    @Who am I sir? - "Not unlike a marriage that ended in divorce yet one of the couple cannot move on."

    LOL. If you've moved on, why do you continue to comment on nearly every BYU article?

    Even though in different conferences, many fans on boths sides still feel like BYU vs U is a great rivalry, just like Florida vs Florida St or Oklahoma vs Nebraska.

    I think it's U who is having a hard time moving on.

    I still love the rivalry, and happy with a couple of Basketball wins and now Baseball. Football wins will be coming soon. The tide is turning South.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    May 15, 2019 10:35 a.m.

    Yes. Our 11th loss in a row...but this is huge in happy valley. Congratulations!

    We recently beat their tournament bound softball team but that was nothing.

    Just like they always lose but play us close in football. That's huge for them and embarrassing for us.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    May 15, 2019 10:33 a.m.

    Who cares? It's baseball!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 15, 2019 10:27 a.m.

    Don't Know Who You Are:
    "Not one writer provided a quote from a Utah player or coach. Perhaps that is because not one of them would have considered this a rivalry game."

    Or perhaps nobody cares what U baseball players/coaches think. U baseball is a joke. You're right, it's the other Cougs at Wazzu that are your rivals...you're much closer to them in mediocrity on the diamond lol.

    It's also hilarious how U fans clamor to a softball article when they win, but now don't recognize the "rivalry" when they're embarrassed by how awful their baseball team is (apparently some needed to be reminded how awful they were). Classy, typical, U.

  • Ttonn Scottsdale, AZ
    May 15, 2019 10:00 a.m.

    Utah is horrible. 1 win in the last 14 games. They are at or near the bottom again in hitting, pitching and fielding in the PAC12. Another disastrous season under Kinneberg. Apparently the U doesn't care about the baseball program and perennial losing is tolerated or they would've fired him years ago. The players, parents and program deserve better.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 15, 2019 9:28 a.m.

    Not unlike a marriage that ended in divorce yet one of the couple cannot move on.

    Each went their own way some 9 years ago. Yet in the coverage of this game 3 writers from the 2 papers had these quotes:
    "BYU coach Mike Littlewood acknowledged the meetings with Utah were two of the biggest games the Cougars played this season. “It’s so important for so many reasons,” he said. “So it was great to get this win.”
    "It’s a huge deal,” BYU coach Mike Littlewood said. “It’s one of the biggest games for us.”
    Said Danny Gelalich, who drove in half the Cougars’ runs: “It’s a lot sweeter when it’s against the Utes.”
    "BYU coach Mike Littlewood never downplays the rivalry. “I've always faced it and said it's a huge deal,” he said again Tuesday"

    Not one writer provided a quote from a Utah player or coach. Perhaps that is because not one of them would have considered this a rivalry game. And that would go against the media's efforts to continue life support for something that changed 9 years ago!

    Thus the question - can it be a rivalry game when only one side clings dearly to that concept?

  • RR Omaha, NE
    May 15, 2019 9:24 a.m.

    "11 what in a row?"

    Read the article. 11 losses in a row. That team is in the conference cellar.

    Utah Valley even beat Washington State yesterday. The conference is very beatable.

  • Just stay healthy San Clemente, CA
    May 15, 2019 9:18 a.m.

    Great game. Good crowd. Couldn't ask for a better college baseball game. Good job Cougs!!! Win 2 more and conference champs. 3 wins and on to the NCAA at large.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 15, 2019 9:13 a.m.

    “But wait! BYU isn't supposed to beat mighty Utah!”

    huskycoog:

    But wait! I thought coog fans didn’t care about Tuesday games!

  • Jumbojimbo Cheyenne, WY
    May 15, 2019 9:04 a.m.

    Naval Vet John in SLC- 11 in a row losses, not 11 to BYU. If you have been following your baseball team better, you would know that. Your lack of Utah baseball following solidifies your hatred of BYU.

  • rootbeer Meridian, ID
    May 15, 2019 8:41 a.m.

    Wow, what a great game. Beautiful weather. The fans were all nice to one another. One old guy got hit in the head though by a foul ball. Hope he is okay. I sat next to one older fellow who refused to dance with the Ute Bird mascot. Other than that it was really good. He was with some guys who were from out of town for some mental health convention or something. And the Utes pitcher hit the Cougars batters like 4 times of something. Wow, you can't ever say that Cougars don't get hit on.

  • Pacer Bountiful, UT
    May 15, 2019 8:11 a.m.

    Lot of missed opportunities in the early innings for both teams and then BYU took advantage of a Utes bullpen that was dumping gasoline all over everything. Really good crowd, split pretty evenly between red and blue, which made for a fun atmosphere even if the outcome wasn't what I was hoping for.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 15, 2019 8:10 a.m.

    ERB:

    11 what in a row?

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 15, 2019 8:10 a.m.

    "11 in a row Utes, ouch."

    erv:

    You mean, 1 in a row?

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    May 15, 2019 8:05 a.m.

    Wow - what's the deal with Utah baseball? All that money spent for this?

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    May 15, 2019 7:17 a.m.

    I feel so bad for the Utes, NOT!

  • Mr. Boris Layton, UT
    May 15, 2019 6:34 a.m.

    What is baseball and does anyone care about it?

  • ERB Eagle Mountain, UT
    May 15, 2019 6:05 a.m.

    11 in a row Utes, ouch.

  • BlueHusky Saratoga Springs, UT
    May 15, 2019 5:44 a.m.

    But wait! BYU isn't supposed to beat mighty Utah!

  • IQ92 hi, UT
    May 15, 2019 12:49 a.m.

    One reason I don't look to DNews is its lack of video. For example, the grand slam video is posted in many other places.

  • RR Omaha, NE
    May 15, 2019 12:21 a.m.

    Obliterated into Oblivion!

    Too bad only 49 homes can get the channel.

  • BlueCoug Provo, UT
    May 14, 2019 11:57 p.m.

    Congratulations Cougars!

    BYU owns Utah in baseball.

    💙 🤙 ⚾️

  • slackoff green river, WY
    May 14, 2019 10:46 p.m.

    Sweet!