In our opinion: From the Constitution to the border, we have a crisis of crises

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  • Lilly Munster , 00
    May 17, 2019 10:36 p.m.

    Donald Trump is a dangerous threat to morality, civility, decency, our Constitution, and the Rule of Law. He destroys everything he touches, including the hundreds of former friends and those who worked for him in our White House (147 and counting) whom he has turned on, ridiculed, fired or sacrificed to cover his myriad financial, civil and criminal behaviors. We will soon be rid of him, but it will take years to heal the chaos, filth, and criminality that he inflicted on this nation. It is time for the LDS Americans to make the moral decision to stop running interference and deference for Trump and his entirely corrupt administration. Your children are watching and listening for consistency in your moral compass. Listen to Mitt Romney: he often chooses the health of our Nation, decency and the Rule of Law over politics.

  • Neanderthal Springville, UT
    May 15, 2019 6:10 p.m.

    @Flipphone: "The Democrat control congress has only one objective in mind.... Destroying President Trump. That's IT!"

    You got it right... And the way they are trying to do it is to drag accusation after accusation of potential wrongdoing out until the 2020 election. They wanna keep people doubting about him so there will be some degree of question whether he did something wrong. That's why the House Dems want the full, unredacted Mueller report plus all supporting documentation, and Trump's tax returns.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 13, 2019 2:40 p.m.

    @One old man
    RE: "It's long past time to really Drain The Swamp by voting out ALL incumbents in BOTH parties"...
    ---
    Would you commit to vote out Ben McAdams? He's an incumbent.

    You did say "ALL incumbents"... did you not? That would include Ben McAdams.

    Somehow I suspect you would not vote Ben McAdams and all other Dems out. So it's kinda lame promise you obviously won't keep.

    That's the way it usually is when people demand we vote out all incumbents (both parties)... they mean you vote all yours out and I'll think about maybe voting one of ours out.

    I like Ben McAdams (especially if he'd keep his promise to be in the middle and vote with both sides from time to time). So far he hasn't kept that promise, so I don't know that Rs will vote for him next time, which would doom his chances or re-election in a district that's mostly Republican.

    ===

    My son is a Democratic Party delegate. He says, "Utah needs more women and people of Color representing us"... I asked if he voted for Mia Love... he was silent.

    McAdams is neither. Love was both.

    Obviously he meant more Dems who were women or people of color.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 13, 2019 2:04 p.m.

    @one old man
    RE: "It's long past time to really Drain The Swamp by voting out ALL incumbents in BOTH parties"...
    ---
    You keep proposing that. But you never do it!

    How many times have you proposed this? And how many times have you set the example and done it?

    Rs did it in 2010. They cleaned house when TeaParty movement was big (end of Bush admin, start of Obama Admin). We voted many of our incumbents out (Bob Bennett was one). Dems never vote their incumbents out. They have to retire or die.

    We did what you propose. Have you?

    Google "List of members of the United States Congress by longevity of service - Wikipedia"...
    ---
    Almost 100% of the top 25 are Democrats.

    Most Democrats die in office or retire.

    Name last Dem incumbent you voted against.

    ==

    RE: "Viable, sensible, middle of the road party"...
    --
    Do you really think you or Democrat's represent the middle? I think AOC, Warren, etc, are radical.

    Trump is more towards the middle than Liz Warren or Bernie Sanders. Dem's only hope for winning people in the middle is Joe Biden.

    If you're in the middle both sides hate you. Establishment Rs and Ds hate Trump. Because he's neither.

  • Rogue77 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 13, 2019 1:41 p.m.

    Your editorial suggests the House of Representatives should decide right now whether to move forward on impeachment. It would seem more prudent for the House to first review the complete Mueller Report and whatever evidence that supports it. You seem to be suggesting that we buy William Barr’s “move along, nothing to see here” spin on the Mueller Report without having a full opportunity to see the underlying facts. As for Trump’s tax returns, they should help show with whom he has been doing business and when, not just how much money he made or lost. The American people deserve to know that so we can determine if their president has been truthful to us and if there are areas where his personal business interests could create a serious conflict.

  • one old man MSC, UT
    May 13, 2019 1:29 p.m.

    Flipphone - , 00
    May 11, 2019 8:40 a.m.
    The Democrat control congress has only one objective in mind.... Destroying President Trump. That's IT!

    ===

    Yes, and right now there is no other way for them to save America from his insanity.

    Let's pray they succeed. Quickly.

  • one old man MSC, UT
    May 13, 2019 1:26 p.m.

    It's long past time to really Drain The Swamp by voting out ALL incumbents in BOTH parties.

    Even more, we need a viable, sensible, middle of the road party that would reflect the views of the vast majority of Americans.

    Like the United Utah Party's excellent example.

    VOTE people!

    VOTE !

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 13, 2019 1:21 p.m.

    @UtahBlueDevil 7:34
    RE: "Conservatives used to be about honesty, conservative family values, and nation above all"...
    ---
    And Liberals used to be about tolerance and diversity (even tolerance of diversity of thought). But not today. If you don't walk in lock step with them... your are shamed, bullied, vilified, and told your opinions/thoughts are not tolerable.

    ===

    If everyone just could all think exactly the same - life would be so great"...
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    Yah. That's what lots of Liberals think, but only if you think the same as them. If not... watch out...

    ===

    So getting along might just being the next best answer....
    ---
    I agree with that. So... where are Democrats and Trump-haters on the "Get Along" plan? I don't see them following that plan. Do you?

    ===

    I agree we need to be more tolerant and embrace diversity of thought. Not punish it or smash it into submission.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 13, 2019 1:09 p.m.

    A couple of crusty old curmudgeons if I ever saw one.

    You would think they would be able to muster a smile. They have been given one of the most prestigious and cushy jobs in the country. You would think they would be happy.

    We do have a crisis of crises today. But we ran the government by crisis when Obama was President too. And when Bush was President. Everything (budget, debt ceiling extensions, any bill) had to become a crisis before they would do anything. And even then they would usually just muster enough energy to kick it down the road far enough to be outside this election cycle.

    Congress has been managing this country by crisis for a long time.

  • SuzViews Mesa, AZ
    May 13, 2019 9:41 a.m.

    Who is at fault? We are when we elect ideologues who won’t work across the aisle to solve America’s problems.

    The good news is that we have the power to change who represents us! We can change America by changing whom we send to Washington D.C.

    We can:

    🛑 STOP - electing ideologues on the left & right.

    🛑 STOP - electing people with extreme views who don’t believe in or have the ability to find common ground.

    🛑 STOP - electing leaders who block action on critically important issues.

    🛑 Stop - electing demagogues who create fear of the ‘other’ to gain/retain power.

    We are ultimately responsible for the gridlock we see in D.C.
    👉👈🏿 Isn’t the answer. We have the power to change things by sending our elected leaders the message that can & will do better than this!

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    May 13, 2019 3:00 a.m.

    Re 1aggie

    If I could see how Trump releasing tax returns would help me or my family I would care.

    In the mean time I'm grateful he got taxes lowered on me and the companies I invest in.

    This makes these companies not only more profitable, but more stable, and since I am approaching retirement, both of these things matter.

  • 1aggie Salt Lake City, UT
    May 12, 2019 2:20 p.m.

    Flipphone:
    "Why is someone's tax returns the business of anyone else? The IRS is there to catch tax cheats."

    Applicants for many jobs in the govt. often require background/security checks including:

    "an FBI reference check of former employers, coworkers, friends, neighbors, landlords, and schools along with a review of credit, tax, and police records. "

    Presidential presidential candidates are not required to undergo similar background checks. When applying for the highest office with access to top secret information (at least after one is elected), an individual ought to be required to undergo the same background and security checks other govt. applicants are required to submit to.

    Every presidential candidate ought to be required to release several years of tax returns, as most have.
    How many tax returns released by candidates?
    Obama-16 yrs
    George Bush 8yrs
    Bill Clinton 8 yrs
    Hillary Clinton 16 yrs
    Jeb Bush 32 yrs

    Trump 1 yr.

    All time high:
    Harry S. Truman 36 yrs.

  • Daedalus, Stephen Arvada, CO
    May 12, 2019 10:06 a.m.

    @sman: "... no President in my lifetime has had a 98 % hostile press after him."

    More of the Trump-as-victim schtick.

    Spare us.

    There is a mnemonic developed for family members and coworkers who must deal with certain disordered personality types: DARVO.

    When such troubled folks are confronted with criticism of harmful behavior or wrong-doing, they follow a predictable sequence of aggression:

    - Deny ... that the harm occurred.

    - Accuse/attack ... the person raising the issue.

    - Reverse ... the roles of

    - Victim ... and

    - Offender.

    Trump follows this pattern to a T. And like other trembling enablers in a dysfunctional family or workplace, his followers propagate his predictable reactions.

  • Daedalus, Stephen Arvada, CO
    May 12, 2019 9:57 a.m.

    @sman: " ... no President in my lifetime has had a 98 % hostile press after him."

    More of the Trump-as-victim ax

  • Flipphone , 00
    May 12, 2019 8:55 a.m.

    Why is someone's tax returns the business of anyone else? The IRS is there to catch tax cheats.

  • Not Much of a Fan Irvine, CA
    May 12, 2019 8:50 a.m.

    Impartial wrote “The fact that Trump and his GOP flunkies are going to great lengths to keep the unredacted report hidden should be a big red flag, even to Trump supporters, that he's hiding things.“

    The only portion of the Mueller Report that hasn’t been made available to Congress is the portion the law prohibits from being released: the grand jury portions. The Democrats don’t read what has been made available and are going to great lengths to keep asking for something they know can’t have so their flunkies can continue to say the GOP is obfuscating. Sadly, people are falling for their stunt.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    May 12, 2019 7:36 a.m.

    SMan... be real. Saying that 98% of the press is against the President shows you are only listening to the 2%. Some of the rhetoric just isn't true that you are consuming.

    Let's take the economy. Yes, the US economy is booming. But the seems to forget that the global economy is booming. If you look at the growth rates of the worlds global economies, the US isn't in the top 50% of economies right now when measured on growth. It's behind Poland, Egypt, Bolivia, even Pakistan. Over 50 economies are growing faster - countries like China at double the rate of the US.

    And then there are the industries Trump promised to help. Steel for example. US Steel's stock value, during these booming times, is worth half of what it was when Trump took office. Half. And coal, despite deep deregulations, still is in decline.

    And last month.... the trade deficit widened by 50 Billion. Widened. Not narrowed.

    So again, perhaps widen your news sources beyond the two percent. You will find there is a wealth of information out there... so of it irritating.... but you need to understand why people feel the way they do. There might be a reason for the deep coverage of Trump.

  • sman columbia, MS
    May 11, 2019 11:13 p.m.

    I'm old enough to be able to say, that no President in my lifetime has had a 98 % hostile press after him. They trash Trump on the Tariffs, saying it's going to destroy the economy. The numbers do not show that reality. The trade deficit fell this last quarter and exports rose.the numbers beating every so called experts prediction. The true crises we have is a moral crisis and a spending crisis. Unlimited immigration causes a huge increase in spending so it's a problem also.

  • sman columbia, MS
    May 11, 2019 10:40 p.m.

    Democrats gripe about Trump not showing his tax returns. The facts are there is not a law requiring politicians to show them. It has been tradition since the1930’s to do so. And Someone commented about how the democrats is no rubber stamp for Trump. The facts are they are a no Stamp. They have not even tried to pass a bill that stands a chance of passing. They are Grandstanding and obstructing because they don’t want to pass anything that might benefit Trump. They are not worrying about this country. There is a crisis and it is dereliction of duty by congress who’s only concern is destroy Trump.

  • Vadarbill , 00
    May 11, 2019 10:14 p.m.

    The crisis at the border existed long before Trump took office but he did highlight the issue that others Just provided weak lip service. The constitution hadn’t changed but the crisis exist where legislators in congress display their lack of knowledge about the contents of the constitution. I find it appalling how little people know about the history of this country. THAT IS THE CRISIS.

  • RRB SLC, UT
    May 11, 2019 7:57 p.m.

    So soon we forget Fast and Furious, and Obama's executive decision to stop investigation of Eric Holder, and how it was swept under the rug.

    Things have never been rosy in our government, and parties have always been opposed. If your to young to remember. read multiple books and get several sides of the story, or listen to Walter Cronkite. He reported the story, he wasn't out to side with a political agenda, he just quoted the facts. And if the facts turned out incorrect, the next night he led off his news with an apology.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    May 11, 2019 7:34 p.m.

    conservative lady - and yet after all those investigations, who was charged with what? How many people associated with whom have been charged and convicted of crimes.

    Conservatives used to be about honesty, conservative family values, and nation above all. I liked being associated with that. Today, its a bunch victims who want to blame "foreigners" for all their problems. If we just didn't have those scary foreigners, life would be good. And democrats.... and liberals. Don't need them either.

    If everyone just could all think exactly the same - life would be so great. Alas.... thats just not an option, so getting along might just being the next best answer.

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    May 11, 2019 6:50 p.m.

    KHoopes - "...people commenting are more interested in proving themselves right than they are in being civil and listening to others to see if maybe someone with a contrasting opinion possibly has something to say that is valid. I applaud those that truly listen or read with an open mind."

    Well, that makes two of us, and perhaps BlueDevil. How we going to get others on board?

  • conservative lady Ramona, CA
    May 11, 2019 5:30 p.m.

    It is clear, the crisis is seen through the colored lens of your politics.

    Trying through any means necessary to overturn an election is a crisis.

    Accepting illegal entry to our country as 'normal' is a crisis.

    Seeing the Constitution as no longer relevant, is a crisis.

    That the left is ok with all of the above. That is a crisis.

    The right accepted Obama as President, didn't try to overthrow him. Did try to hold him accountable for Benghazi and the resultant lies of he and Clinton; did hold him accountable for shoving Obamacare down our throats; did hold him accountable for the IRS, DOJ, FBI abuses; and now hold them accountable for the harassment and fraud perpetrated on the President, his cabinet and the American people for the Mueller investigation.

  • patrioticAMERICAN South Jordan, UT
    May 11, 2019 5:12 p.m.

    @joe5: "If you go through the media outlets and find the ones that have routinely been caught lying, have had to print retractions and corrections, and have often snarled at each other, you are looking at those who are printing anti-Trump news."

    Here's the difference Joe, b/t real news shows & respectable newspapers, & the entertainment outlets that pretend to dispense news--you hit the nail on the head when you said they admit their mistakes & print retractions, or corrections. On the other hand, when was the last time you heard Trump or any of his cult members, incl. Fox News, admit a mistake. Even Sarah Sanders, who admitted under oath to Mueller's team (since she knew she could actually go to jail if caught lying) that she just made stuff up abt the FBI cheering Trump's firing of Comey (she had "no basis in facts" is how she put it to them), but when questioned by the media after the Mueller report came out, she merely called it a "slip of the tongue", like it was accidental, & not a purposeful intent to deceive.

    She has been proven a liar, & she works for the biggest one of all.

    I get that you're following Trump's directive to not believe what you're seeing or hearing.

  • KHoopes Sandy, UT
    May 11, 2019 4:43 p.m.

    It's interesting to read the comments here and see the same old views, the same agendas, and the same self righteous attitudes. I don't see how anyone can say that either side of the aisle is truly interested in doing what is best for the country or get to the truth about anything, their priority is to maintain or grab more power. I think the majority of the people commenting are more interested in proving themselves right than they are in being civil and listening to others to see if maybe someone with a contrasting opinion possibly has something to say that is valid. I applaud those that truly listen or read with an open mind.

  • Back Talk Federal Way, WA
    May 11, 2019 3:33 p.m.

    The blatantly dishonest claims and positions of Democrates and their sponsored media is unbelievable. They still cant admit that Trump was elected honestly.

    Now that Mueller's anti Trump investigative team has proven that Trump did not collude with Russia, the Dems and lieing media are saying that Trump has obstructed justice by firing the person (Comey) who likely started this false investigation by lieing to a FISA Court.

    If you think we have a crisis now, wait until Inspector General Horowitz releases his report and recommends criminal charges be made against several former FBI officials. Both groups again know this is coming so they are working together to try and discredit Attorney General Barr.

    We must get to the truth so this can never happen again to another US President or Public figure.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    May 11, 2019 2:01 p.m.

    "There is no question that no President in at least modern times has seen the scrutiny as this President,"

    Are you kidding me? Need we name all them. Watergate, Iran/Contra, Benghazi (which went of for 4 years)..... this list is long and deep. Add to that the Clinton affair.... good grief. Dear Mr. Trump hasn't had it worse.... he just has the thinest skin... is the biggest self proclaimed victim.

    The hardest..... the man doesn't know what tough is... which seems to be his trade mark. What next... foot problems again too? While past presidents have fought for this nation, put on this nations uniform, mr. Trump was going to school with the rest of his frat brothers. Hardly.....

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    May 11, 2019 1:57 p.m.

    While I disagree with the President on his methods to get the wall built, I think the act of building the wall is completely within is his responsibility to do under securing the borders.

    On the other hand, the idea that the President thinks he is above congressional overbite, and that telling his staff to not work with congress is not within his powers. You can't start saying "I will have my people ignore congressional subpoenas" and then expect the rest of the country to honor and respect the government - when it is not convent to them

    The precedent being set here is entirely destructing of those things that have kept this country going for over 200 years. When he ran for office he had to know that congress had this job. He cheered when Hillary was forced to testify. He can not now say his people are above the law. That's not how it works. Yes, these powers have been abused in the past (McCarthy), but we have survived that. We can not survive when one branch decides to ignore the powers of congress and feel they are not responsible.

    This idea also of converting 4th of July in DC into a huge Trump political rally... that too is a very bad precedent.

  • Daedalus, Stephen Arvada, CO
    May 11, 2019 1:46 p.m.

    In Nov. 2018, enough voters around the country were dissatisfied with how their GOP Representatives were performing -- or not performing -- to decisively swing control of the House to the Democrats.

    For just over 4 months, Democrats have been doing what they believe they were elected to do.

    Unsurprisingly the Democratic House is not the passive rubber-stamp that Republicans provided Trump. This column implies that DN wishes that were not so and seemingly prefers the prior GOP status quo.

    If Democrats misjudge what Americans want, they will lose the House in 2020. Pelosi knows the stakes and is just doing her job and fulfilling her oath of office, as foreign as that may sound to post-Trump Republicans.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    May 11, 2019 1:32 p.m.

    patriotic: Your comment at 8:14am is truly ironic. If you go through the media outlets and find the ones that have routinely been caught lying, have had to print retractions and corrections, and have often snarled at each other, you are looking at those who are printing anti-Trump news. They are the ones with an endlessly gullible audience. You would think that being caught in lie after lie after lie, people would begin to turn from them (and some are since, for example, CNN ratings have cratered). But there are still some that jump on the very next lie.

    A couple of years ago, I went to several news on-line news outlets every single day to get a wide cross-section of viewpoints. If someone was caught in a lie, I dropped them. Every single one of them, including this paper, ended up being dropped as a regular part of my news day except, interestingly, Breitbart. Even Drudge, Fox and other more conservative outlets have joined the FakeNews media parade.

    So I find it interesting that you call out the Trump propaganda machine when the primary purveyors of propaganda are the anti-Trump outlets based completely on their records of apologizes, corrections, and retractions.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    May 11, 2019 1:19 p.m.

    Impartial7: "Democrats are trying to get to the truth. By using the tools that the law has laid out. But Trump, and with the aid of McConnell and his band of yes men, are refusing to comply."

    So Congress "fiddles while Rome burns" and the real problem is that you are satisfied with that.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    May 11, 2019 12:44 p.m.

    As I have been censored with my responses here, could I at least ask one and all to read the Mueller report? Is that too much to ask?

  • Copybook Headings Draper, UT
    May 11, 2019 12:35 p.m.

    @Impartial7 - DRAPER, UT
    "This does NOT exonerate Trump of no obstruction".

    There's no proof that you yourself have not stolen from your employer. But that doesn't mean you haven't! In fact, unless you not only surrender your last ten tax returns and ten years of bank statements to your employer, but the tax returns and bank statements of your family friends for the last ten years, and the tax returns and bank statements of everyone you work with, and the tax returns and bank statements of the parents your children have gone to school with, then you're guilty of stealing from your employer.

    You see how that works?

    And I get it. You're not the President. But then we're all going down a slippery slope of laws applying to some but not others right? We all saw that in July of 2016.

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    May 11, 2019 12:09 p.m.

    @flipphone

    You could say the same thing about republicans when Obama was in office.

    This is the problem. Instead of innovating and coming up with the best ideas to solve problems. The parties only think they have the best ideas and will not budge. Republicans will not admit tax cuts don’t pay for themselves. Democrats will not admit that welfare programs need to be restructured.

    Look at social security. That is an easy fix. We don’t need to raise taxes but we fundamentally need to change how it is funded.

    The best ideas should win without political ideology even being brought to the table.

  • Dasay Farmington, UT
    May 11, 2019 10:40 a.m.

    I can’t conceive the hateful thoughts and unfounded evaluation of so many elected officials occurring in our beautiful Land of the Free.

    No one knows the thoughts of another man or what shaped his thoughts. But with all the PC playing out, it is ironic that it’s okay to rip Representatives duly elected by their constituents without regard to much else but their unsubstantiated opinions.

    I am growing weary of instant sound bites. A free press is being crowded out by unprofessional “social media” hacks.

    The sad part is that such behavior is stealing our civility.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    May 11, 2019 10:28 a.m.

    Someone wrote:"...we have never had a President that was incompetent, morally unfit to lead, a pathological liar, and completely self serving..."

    Sounds like JFK, Nixon and Bill Clinton to me.

    Sometimes we think we invented politics last year. That's why we study history. Otherwise, we could be carried away by the narrative.

  • Chessermesser West Valley City, UT
    May 11, 2019 10:16 a.m.

    Congressional oversight does not mean repeating the Mueller investigation. Trump has got political warts. Yep. So Democrats, let’s spare the country rehashing the same thing over and over. The president has plenty of flaws. Pick a new one and move on.

    Finally, why has not a single Democratic leader read the 99.9% unredacted version of the Mueller Report made available by Barr? I think the reason is obvious. They really don’t care about what the report says. They just want to grandstand and waste everyone’s time and money.

    Barr hasn’t committed a crime. He is following the law and it is horrible to say otherwise.

    Does the Truth matter anymore?

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 11, 2019 9:47 a.m.

    If you examine the cause of all of these crises, it all comes down to the same thing: money in politics. We pay twice as much for healthcare as anyone else in the world, but there is nothing we can do about it because the healthcare industry spends millions of dollars in "donations" to congress to ensure it doesn't happen.
    We buy insanely expensive weapons systems that don't really work very well, but there is nothing we can do about it because the military industrial complex spends million of dollars in "donations" to congress to ensure it won't happen.
    Fixing illegal immigration would be easy. Pass a law that levies large fines, including prison time, on any employer who employs undocumented workers. It would stop overnight. But no member of congress would ever support a bill to imprison his donors. That would be career suicide.
    The reason our crises don't get fixed is because congress is handsomely paid to ensure that they don't.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    May 11, 2019 9:22 a.m.

    @Copybook Headings - Draper, UT
    May 11, 2019 8:45 a.m.
    Impartial7 - DRAPER, UT
    "Democrats are trying to get to the truth."
    We just spent TWO years getting at the 'truth' and Mueller found it: No collusion and no obstruction of justice. "

    Except it doesn't say that. Trump says that, and his non-thinking supporters parrot his words. In fact, the report goes out of the way to say "This does NOT exonerate Trump of no obstruction". The fact that Trump and his GOP flunkies are going to great lengths to keep the unredacted report hidden should be a big red flag, even to Trump supporters, that he's hiding things. A lot of things. The truth will eventually come out. I just hope it's while he still in office and the GOP has to face the truth.

  • Thomas Thompson Salt Lake City, UT
    May 11, 2019 8:52 a.m.

    No less a Republican operative than former Vice-President Dick Cheney always insisted that "deficits don't matter." The Deseret News, if it believes to the contrary, is obligated to explain why -- and it fails to do that in this editorial.

    I would suggest, not that the word "crisis" is overused, but that far too often we fail even to recognize a real "crisis" even when it smacks us right in the face. The current crisis -- one I have waited in vain for the Deseret News to address -- is that the Congress has submitted a lawful request to the Secretary of the Treasury and the Commissioner of Internal Revenue for Mr. Trump's tax returns. When such a lawful request is made, the law gives those two highly placed government officials no discretion whatsoever -- they're required by law to provide the returns. They have refused to do so in clear violation of what the Federal law requires them to do. When some of the highest government officials in the land refuse to comply with the laws, aren't they in violation of their oath of office to "take care that the laws are faithfully executed?" I would say that they are. So: what are we going to do about it?

  • Flipphone , 00
    May 11, 2019 8:51 a.m.

    President Trump wants to fix the crises of illegals flooding our southern border but the Democrats refuse to give any assistance. Their goal is to destroy our President.

  • Copybook Headings Draper, UT
    May 11, 2019 8:45 a.m.

    Impartial7 - DRAPER, UT
    "Democrats are trying to get to the truth."

    We just spent TWO years getting at the 'truth' and Mueller found it: No collusion and no obstruction of justice. Democrats are not seeking the truth. They're obsessed with destroying this guy at all costs and average Americans are sick of it. How about if Congress does it's job like the article says?

    unrepentant progressive - Bozeman, MT
    "Yet, we have one political faction in this country that does not believe in compromise and negotiation."

    You're speaking of Democrats when the Affordable Care Act was on the floor of Congress right??

  • Flipphone , 00
    May 11, 2019 8:40 a.m.

    The Democrat control congress has only one objective in mind.... Destroying President Trump. That's IT!

  • pragmatistferlife Salt Lake City, UT
    May 11, 2019 8:40 a.m.

    I absolutely reject the idea presented on these pages all the time including today that the govt. is first of all a deep state, and secondly "the" problem.

    The government and the services it provides are the heart of our society. It should be governed, managed, overseen, and controlled, but the emergence of the idea since Trump that it is somehow a pit of unpatriotic evil seekers is both wrong and existentially dangerous.

    There is no question that no President in at least modern times has seen the scrutiny as this President, but then we have never had a President that was incompetent, morally unfit to lead, a pathological liar, and completely self serving, all of which describe Trump.

    A government that seeks to control such a man is not a pit of evil doers but patriots seeking to preserve democracy.

  • deseret pete Springville, UT
    May 11, 2019 8:31 a.m.

    Impartial 17 -- The Democrats can't recognize the truth ---- No collusion -- No obstruction -- After wringing their hands for 2 years and claiming every week that Trump was going to fire Mueller and even attempted to pass a law to prevent it. now they won't accept his findings, --- Every time they can not buffalo the president or get their way by accusing the president of some wrong doing they claim a ---" Constitutional Crisis ", That seems to be Standard operating Procedure now days. If we don't get our way by hook or crook --- It's A Constitutional Crisis. --- When their only desire is to impeach or to impede his policies is their agenda and focus on the next election they are blinded by the real crisis that is the elephant in the room which is the Border Crisis that has been a problem for years and they don't want Trump to fix, especially since a lot could be done with a few simple laws governing the way we handle those coming in illegally.

  • Chuckee Kamas, UT
    May 11, 2019 8:28 a.m.

    I am utterly amazed when defenders of the Trump-haters in Congress justify their actions as just trying to get to the truth or just exercising their oversight responsibilities. That is such baloney. How is attempting to obtain Trump's tax returns or re-investigating the Mueller report doing either. It is obviously the Democrats' continuing effort to reverse the 2016 election by any means possible. So much time and effort is spent in this endeavor - abetted by a national media that can't let it die, that the really tough issues that are truly threatening the well-being of our country are being ignored. The immigration debacle at the border, the burgeoning national debt, the trade war with China and many other issues, if not crises now will surely become such in the very near future, as hypocritical political leaders on both sides continue to grandstand and pontificate for their own political aggrandizement while "Rome burns" under their feet.

  • patrioticAMERICAN South Jordan, UT
    May 11, 2019 8:14 a.m.

    The crisis is that we have a leader that cares for no one but himself and his own interests (and by extension, family members who he sees as an extension of his self-image), and now we have a huge chunk of govt that that can only see it's survival by propping up that leader, at the expense of their duty to defend and uphold the Constitution.

    In other words, they will do anything to defend and prop up their Supreme Leader, no matter what policies he enacts (unless it goes against their xenophobic or gun-loving tendencies) or how corrupt his actions have been (as long as they continue to get their conservative judges).

    Remaining in power and forcing their values on the rest of the world seem to be all they care abt (and keeping the masses subjugated by protecting the corporations that fund their power, and enacting laws that suppress minority voters).

    That is the cause of the crisis we find ourselves in, & it's fueled by an uneducated and ignorant electorate that seems perfectly willing to believe all the lies spoon-fed them daily by an accomplished liar and his conspiring propaganda machine.

    Heaven help us!

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    May 11, 2019 7:42 a.m.

    When Congressional leaders order someone to break a law which they themselves passed, then cite that person for contempt when he refuses; that is a crises in government. When FBI officials undercut the Constitution in order to obstruct a legitimately elected president, that is a crises. Illegal immigration with all its horrendous suffering and other serious problems has gone unchecked for decades; that is a continuing crises. Let's face the fact that in life, crises do occur. We should not get so hardened that we become blase' and ignore problems that really do need fixing.

  • Yuge Opportunity Here Mapleton, UT
    May 11, 2019 7:34 a.m.

    The editor leaves out another key issue here. As congress fiddles, the power vacuum is filled by unelected bureaucrats who protect their own jobs and make real reform more difficult.

    There was a time when the press would call them on it, but not today. The IRS, CIA and FBI are up to their eyeballs in corruption, yet the media is still playing Trump-gotcha every day.

    Away from the White House, similar games are being played at OSHA, EPA and immigration courts...all because they know they can do their own governing with impunity.

    Expose that, Mr. Editor.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    May 11, 2019 7:34 a.m.

    This editorial argues against itself, both internally and with its own history of opinions.

    Everything of import in this country has been declared a crisis, according to this opinion. The only way out of it is for the Congress to get together and pass laws that would mitigate the current controversies says this piece.

    Yet, we have one political faction in this country that does not believe in compromise and negotiation. One party whose leader is at the center of all these controversies. And one party who has rejected our long standing democratic standards for the attainment and retention of political power.

    The country can not have it both ways. You can not support politicians who repeatedly refuse to recognize the legitimate arguments of their political opponents, then cry aloud when these kinds of logjams occur.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    May 11, 2019 7:30 a.m.

    "What we don’t get is how elected representatives could let the nation suffer as they ignore real problems, all the while pointing fervently and shouting “Crisis!” at things they have no intention of confronting."

    Democrats are trying to get to the truth. By using the tools that the law has laid out. But Trump, and with the aid of McConnell and his band of yes men, are refusing to comply. Trump has a long track record of distraction and covering up, but no one expected the GOP congress to abet. Vote them out.

  • ute alumni Salt Lake City, UT
    May 11, 2019 6:24 a.m.

    Baloney. Fakes news. Dems spying and weaponizing law enforcement is the crisis.