Barr skips House hearing; Pelosi accuses him of lying

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  • worf McAllen, TX
    May 3, 2019 4:33 p.m.

    @JaneB,

    Rule of law?---A person is innocent until proven guilty.

    Why would Russia prefer Trump over Hillary?

    Democrats are running scared! What are they off?

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    May 3, 2019 2:23 p.m.

    Hey Worf -

    Re: "Democrats lied about Russian collusion for two years and haven't stopped."

    You know, the words "no collusion" do not appear anywhere in the Mueller report. Though not a crime in itself, collusion is obvious. We can see that even without an investigation.

    Trump very publicly asked the Russians for help winning the election. And the Russians responded by breaking American laws for the purpose of helping Trump win. That all by itself is collusion.

    Why do YOU think America's Russian enemies help Republicans win elections here? Do you think Russia expects to receive nothing in return?

    Sure, the words "no collusion" come from the mouths of Trump and Barr, two high profile liars. But what is that worth? Why would you assume that what they say is true?

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    May 3, 2019 10:55 a.m.

    Responding to comments about convictions and Trump. Seems like all the good people that Bill an Hillary Clinton surrounds their selves with are criminals:
    1) Roger Clinton: drug trafficking conviction
    2) Dan Lasater: drug trafficking conviction
    3) Dan Harmon: five federal racketeering, extortion, and drug distribution convictions
    4) Bill McCuen: bribery, tax evasion, kickbacks convictions
    5) Webster Hubbell: Hillary Clinton Rose Law Firm partner: embezzlement; fraud; two felony convictions
    6) Jim Guy Tucker: fraud; three felony convictions
    7) William J. Marks Sr.: conspiracy conviction
    8) Jim McDougal: eighteen felony convictions
    9) Susan McDougal: four felony convictions
    10) David Hale: two felony convictions of conspiracy and mail fraud
    11) Chris Wade: two felony convictions
    12) Stephen Smith: one conviction
    13) Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent; fraudulent loans
    14) Robert Palmer: one conspiracy felony conviction
    15) Neal Ainley: embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign; 16) John Latham: Madison Bank CEO; bank fraud conviction

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    May 3, 2019 8:51 a.m.

    Thid Barker said: "This is simply Democrat political stunts and noise versus AG Barr's legal substance and poise! Makes me proud to live in a country of law and order!"

    Wait, so your idea of law and order is a president can obstruct an investigation if he "feels" the charges are unfounded, even if he is ignorant of actual law?

    Criminals across America are taking note, that if they can eliminate witnesses and evidence, then no crime was committed, this is what makes you proud?

    This is what Barr is basing his no obstruction on.

    What if a democrat during the 2020 election said on TV "China, if you're listening, why don't you get Trump's tax returns. I'm sure our media would richly reward you" If after this hypothetical Democratic candidate says this, within hours, all of a sudden, the IRS offices are bombarded with incredibly sophisticated cybertools looking for Trump's tax returns, and then extracts and them and then passes them to whatever the new WikiLeaks happens to be and they are disclosed.

    So you and the trump sycophants are saying there is nothing wrong with that?

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    May 3, 2019 5:41 a.m.

    William Barr sickened himself with his own lies.

    LOL! And they used to call Obama a liar.

    Go figure!

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    May 2, 2019 8:28 p.m.

    This is simply Democrat political stunts and noise versus AG Barr's legal substance and poise! Makes me proud to live in a country of law and order!

  • JaneB Wilsonville, OR
    May 2, 2019 6:55 p.m.

    worf, I'm not a democrat, but I think what scares people about Trump is that we are losing the rule of law. Especially now with Barr as top dog at DOJ. He seems all too willing to run defense for Trump, rather than defend the rule of law. He seems to think Trump is above the law. Frankly, Barr scares me. He was dishonest yesterday, and before. I suspect he will continue to run interference for Trump. I don't think that's what the framers had in mind, do you?

    Congress was given oversight power for a reason. Now Trump will just refuse to comply with legitimate subpeonas and run out the clock until after the election. That's more obstruction.

    We have a report that showed Trump campaign sought help from Russia, had over 100 contacts with Russians to obtain material on Clinton, accepted help and benefited from it. They didn't call the FBI, but gladly took the help. They didn't officially collude, because they didn't need to.

    Mueller produced a report that showed many instances of clear abuse of power in the white house. He showed obstruction. It's sad now that R's are so far gone, they can't even see what they are buying into.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    May 2, 2019 6:00 p.m.

    What a bunch of sore losers.

    Democrats lied about Russian collusion for two years and haven't stopped.

    Democrats need to put forth effort colluding with Trump rather than whining. What is it about Trump that scares them so much?

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    May 2, 2019 5:49 p.m.

    Hey Vermonter -

    Re: " Perhaps Barr is looking for some sort of payoff down the road from Trump. "

    Well, I'm sure Barr would not turn down a Supreme Court appointment. He's probably praying for Justice Ginsberg to pass.

    It's a real pity how greed and a desire for power can corrupt a person.

  • JaneB Wilsonville, OR
    May 2, 2019 5:46 p.m.

    Takeaway on Bill Barr: he thinks the president is above the law. I thought we had a Constitution that said otherwise. Dangerous times.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    May 2, 2019 5:41 p.m.

    Pelosi's accusations are absolutely justified. Barr DID in fact lie to Congress.

    Barr told Congress he didn't know whether Mueller approved of Barr's four-page summary letter, even after Mueller sent him a letter of protest explicitly stating that Mueller was NOT satisfied with Barr's summary letter.

    "The summary letter the Department sent to Congress and released to the public late in the afternoon of March 24 did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this Office's work and conclusions." - Robert Mueller

    That is irrefutable proof that Barr lied outright to Congress. And that was just one of his lies.

    I notice that Republicans posting here are all assuming that everything Barr says is true. Why? There is no basis to support that assumption. All that can really be confirmed about Barr is that he easily lies. Barr is very similar to his boss in that respect, isn't he?

    Trump achieved the 10 thousand-lie mark just the other day. What an achievement!

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    May 2, 2019 4:36 p.m.

    I think we are done with Barr. He has his story and he is sticking to it, true or not.

    Time to get Mueller in front on House and Senate committees, pronto.

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    May 2, 2019 4:20 p.m.

    @Jim Chee.
    Fair enough. I obviously haven’t followed this as closely as you.

    But, still, Barr is nearly 70 years old. And though not mega-rich, he probably will have a comfortable retirement. Perhaps Barr is looking for some sort of payoff down the road from Trump. But, he will have to endure vilification in the press and perjury traps on Capitol Hill. It doesn’t seem that plain and ordinary money and power would motivate him that much.

  • Joe Leaphorn Scottsdale, AZ
    May 2, 2019 4:00 p.m.

    jjjdsd - Centerville, UT
    May 2, 2019 2:22 p.m.

    "Mueller prior to his report told everyone there was no collusion by Trump."

    Did you get this from Donald Trump? You didn't read the Mueller report, did you? If you were paying attention to some other news outlet than the Fox Propaganda Network, you would know that Robert Mueller never talked about his investigation -- to anyone. And if you read any news outside of Fox, you would know that only Bill Barr said there was "no collusion". That's like Sarah Huck-Sands or Kellyanne Conway telling us that there was "no collusion". However, there is a lot in the Mueller report that doesn't point that way. Mueller wrote he could not definitely say because he was unable to interview the Russian players. But what to you think sharing critical polling data on the Midwest with a Russian agent is? Or the meeting with Russian agents in Trump Tower? Or the 150+ meeting between Trump campaign staffers and Russians?

    It's all there in the report. Barr neglected to read any of the underlying evidence basing his prejudiced judgement on selected parts of the report, misrepresenting it and quoting sentences out of context. You've become a Trump shill.

  • Bob67 Glenn Dale, MD
    May 2, 2019 3:56 p.m.

    After getting bruised badly by questioning yesterday, Attorney General Barr needed some time off to recover, so I am not surprised he was a no-show today.

    The KFC demonstration seems to be setting up campaign slogans against President Trump, similar to the "Where's the beef?" line Walter Mondale used in 1984 against Gary Hart in the campaign for the democratic nomination for president.

    This time the line will be: "Where's the chicken?"

  • Mad Hatter Santa Fe, NM
    May 2, 2019 3:48 p.m.

    Thid Barker - Victor, ID
    May 2, 2019 2:12 p.m.

    "Anyone who disagrees with Pelosi is lying, right?"

    William Barr has now joined an elite group of Donald Trump sycophants. You might call it the Liar's Club, anyone who will lie for Trump. This group includes, besides Bill Barr, Kellyanne Conway, Sarah Hucka-Sands, Stephen Miller, and whoever else in the Republican Party who has sold their soul and fear a critical tweet to doing what is right.

    For those who rely on the Fox News entertainment division and talking heads, apparently there is no need to read the Mueller report because it mentions things they don't want to hear. Better to get into conspiracies of Deep State and wingnut nonsense as their comfort zone. Lies by their own people are much better to live with than coming out into the light and searching for truth.

    Barr was probably told not to appear before the House Judicial Committee. He has done enough damage. At 28% favorable on re-electing Trump, the campaign can't afford too many more episodes like we all saw yesterday. It's not a question of disagreeing with Nancy Pelosi. It's all about lying to the American people. You may accept and overlook the lie, but it's a lie.

  • Jim Chee Lahaina, HI
    May 2, 2019 3:39 p.m.

    Vermonter - Plymouth, MI
    May 2, 2019 1:23 p.m.

    "Don’t know why Barr took the job. He didn’t need it. He’s already been there and done that with the AG job."

    Consider this. Bill Barr advertised for the job and put forth his credentials regarding executive power. He was no Jeff Sessions constrained by the legal niceties of maintaining independence from the Executive. He said that he thought a president could not be held liable for anything as he basically said in the Senate hearing yesterday. According to Barr, if the president thinks an investigation is "unjust" (read, something he doesn't like), he has every right to shut it down. Apparently Barr agrees with Donald Trump about what he can do whenever he wants.

    That's why he took job. Trump wanted a protector at the highest levels of the DOJ and he got it with Barr. The man took an oath to the Constitution, but that falls very short from the oath of loyalty he took to Trump. So, the question is, What is Barr going to get out of this? At this time it's difficult to determine. Whatever credibility or integrity he had is now down the toilet. Maybe it's ideological and partisan and he doesn't care what it does to him personally.

  • RedShirtUSouthernNDakotaatHoople Bismarck, ND
    May 2, 2019 3:34 p.m.

    @lost in DC

    “Funny what nancy said about lying. To her the truth is what is politically expedient, what she wants it to be, not what it actually is. When she develops some credibility then she can talk about someone else lying.”

    I’ll just let the irony speak for itself.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    May 2, 2019 3:18 p.m.

    I think you robbed the bank, because I can't find any evidence you did not.

    And don't try to argue you didn't because that is obstruction of justice. And anyone that says you did not rob the bank must be proffering a lie in your defense.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    May 2, 2019 2:41 p.m.

    @Thid;
    "After four (4) separate investigations, nearly $30 million wasted, hundreds of witness interviewed and reams of papers subpoenaed. still no evidence of President Trump's collusion and obstruction!"

    Ummm. The investigations resulted in many indictments, guilty pleas and sentences from Trumps inner circle. Plus, the fines recouped more than paid for the investigations costs. This has been pointed out to you many times. Plus, from the report;""While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,"
    ""If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state."""The President's efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests."

    The report doesn't say "No collusion. It doesn't say no obstruction. It doesn't exonerate Trump. The only ones say that are you and Trump.

  • jjjdsd Centerville, UT
    May 2, 2019 2:35 p.m.

    "No witness can be allowed to dictate the terms under which he will comply with a lawful subpoena "

    Nadler never issued a subpoena for Barr to appear, it was voluntary for the House and Senate hearings. Lets not lie about it, and lets not spread lies about it.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    May 2, 2019 2:29 p.m.

    Thid Barker said: "still no evidence of President Trump's collusion and obstruction! "

    • 22 months, Cost ~$25mil, but netted, $48mil from unpaid taxes/fines/seized assets. 100% ROI.
    • 34 Indictments (individuals), 3 Indictments (companies)
    • 7 guilty pleas and counting
    • 1 conviction and counting
    • Indicted: Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, George Papadopoulos, Michael Flynn, Michael Cohen, Richard Pinedo, Alex van der Zwaan, Konstantin Kilimnik, 22 Russians (most GRU spies), Internet Research Agency, Concord Management
    • Guilty Plea: Michael Flynn, Michael Cohen, George Papadopolous, Richard Pinedo, Alex van der Zwaan, Rick Gates, Paul Manafort
    • Found Guilty: Paul Manafort
    • 191 charges and counting

    Seems like all the good people that Donald surrounds himself with are criminals, but shouldn't be punished cause law and order are just words the GOP uses during campaigns, but trump associates are victims?

    The only reason obstruction charges aren't being brought against Donald is because Barr believes it's legal to obstruct justice if you believe you are innocent, criminals all over America are writing that one down.

  • jjjdsd Centerville, UT
    May 2, 2019 2:22 p.m.

    Theater for sure.

    Mueller prior to his report told everyone there was no collusion by Trump. The ATDS did not stop accusing the Pres of collusion.

    Mueller rights a 400 page report saying there is not collusion or obstruction, then lays out 10 perceived possible situations. He certainly did not report about exculpatory evidence that made him not charge the Pres for obstruction. This is how Weissmann had major cases reversed.

    Barr asked Mueller to review his 4 page summary, Mueller refused to do so.

    Barr provides a redacted version to congress and the public for the purpose of openness. He was not required by a law Democrats passed after Star's report, he had no obligation to release it.

    Barr offers a less redacted version for the members of congress to review. In mass they refused.

    The Mueller team writes a letter to Barr telling him they are not happy with the media's response.

    And this is Barr's fault.

    Everyone should be looking at Mueller with a suspicions of his real motives.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    May 2, 2019 2:12 p.m.

    Anyone who disagrees with Pelosi is lying, right? After four (4) separate investigations, nearly $30 million wasted, hundreds of witness interviewed and reams of papers subpoenaed. still no evidence of President Trump's collusion and obstruction! How many more "investigations" will it take before Democrats will give it up? 10 more? How about NO MORE! Enough already Democrats! You are getting way past absurd and obtuse!

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    May 2, 2019 2:03 p.m.

    Barr has declined to appear at the day and time of a hearing he was advised of days in advance. Issue him a subpoena. If he ignores it or fights it in court, he will further define himself in the public eye. But the House will have discharged its duty. No witness can be allowed to dictate the terms under which he will comply with a lawful subpoena from a Congressional investigating committee. Barr himself as a prosecutor would not hesitate to use his authority to compel a witness to respond to a lawful subpoena to appear and testify.

    Officials in the Nixon White House once attempted to refuse to testify before Congress. Sam Ervin, chairing the Senate Watergate committee, threatened to send the Sergeant of Arms to arrest them. The witnesses then complied.

  • Speakingforme McCombs, KY
    May 2, 2019 1:53 p.m.

    Strange, but the "Watergate" era which tested our resolve to support our Constitution over party and the latest drama were both precipitated by Republicans trying to exploit American voters in getting "dirt" on their Democrat rivals. They know if it is message vs message or policy vs policy or platform vs platform, they will lose. Thus the resort to chicanery.

  • scrappy do DRAPER, UT
    May 2, 2019 1:39 p.m.

    the accusations fly in DC

    same old same old

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    May 2, 2019 1:23 p.m.

    @Impartial7.
    You’re probably right about Barr never getting another job. Don’t know why Barr took the job. He didn’t need it. He’s already been there and done that with the AG job.

    But, perhaps there is a payoff in the future.

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    May 2, 2019 1:20 p.m.

    Based on Pelosi’s public accusation, she has a duty to initiate impeachment proceedings against William Barr.

    But, she won’t. This is politics, after all.

    I was amused at the rubber chicken in the witness chair and the catering by KFC at the committee meeting. Political theater at its finest.

  • belk Federal Way, WA
    May 2, 2019 1:05 p.m.

    Confirmation bias is something we all have. We notice, interpret, or give credence to information that agrees with what we already think and believe. If we cannot ignore or interpret the information as being consistent with our bias, we say the information is untrue. We all do that. The Mueller report and all that follows are another in an endless stream of examples. To wit: if you are a Trump supporter, you see the Mueller report as exoneration, and those who continue to pursue it as wrong, unfair, un-American, or of poor character; while if you're not a Trump supporter, you see the Mueller report as supporting the idea that Trump is a crook, and those who refuse to pursue it as wrong, unfair, un-American, or of poor character. The sequelae are driven by the original bias. It is rare indeed for any person to escape confirmation bias. That includes me.
    Doing so is both difficult and uncomfortable.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    May 2, 2019 12:49 p.m.

    Funny what nancy said about lying. To her the truth is what is politically expedient, what she wants it to be, not what it actually is. When she develops some credibility then she can talk about someone else lying.

    Nadler said that if the AG doesn't provide the committee "with the … respect that it deserves…”

    Barr is giving the committee no less respect than it deserves.

    Dems cannot tell the difference between Mueller and his team – no surprise there. I wonder if they have figured out the definition of the word “is” yet?

    of course, they have already convicted anyone associated with trump, even without the "evidence" they are trying to fabricate.

    At least all this distraction is keeping dems from doing damage with their agenda, like the grotesque new deal and other malarkey.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    May 2, 2019 12:47 p.m.

    I hope Trump takes good care of Barr, his personal attorney, against the best interests of America. He'll never be able to find a decent job again.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    May 2, 2019 12:21 p.m.

    Pelosi is correct.

    Now why did Barr lie, if his client, oops I meant the president isn't trying to obstruct justice?

    Why lie when you have the truth to back up your rendition of the report?

    Why do trump sycophants defend dishonesty and coverups?