Utah Sen. Mike Lee says Democrats 'losing their minds' over Mueller report, exploiting it to undermine Trump

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  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    May 6, 2019 7:50 a.m.

    “Baseless Innuendo” is how our Senator described the report.

    Would our Senator Lee support Special Prosecutor Mueller appearing before Congress to answer questions about his report and more specifically his subsequent letter to Attorney General Barr’s questioning his interpretation of it?

    Personally I don’t have time to read the 400 page report but I would like to hear him answer questions about it from Congress.

    Some say it is time to move on. I would like to hear him testify and answer questions under oath.

    Is there anything wrong with that?

  • Farmington Fan Farmington, UT
    May 3, 2019 9:50 a.m.

    "Traveler--Farmington, UT"

    Great perspective. Under Utah law, one defense to the crime of obstruction of justice is the defense that no underlying crime was actually committed. Therefore, even if a person blatantly obstructs an investigation into purported criminal behavior, such person cannot be found guilty of the crime of obstruction of justice, if the bad behavior being investigated is ultimately determined not to satisfy all the elements of being a crime (although such bad behavior might satisfy some of the elements of being a crime). In summary, it's not a crime to obstruct an investigation concerning bad behavior that turns out not to be a crime.

    Thus, even if President Trump blatantly obstructed the criminal investigation into whether he or others in his presidential campaign colluded with the Russians to attempt to influence the 2016 Presidential Election, if it is ultimately determined that neither he nor anyone else in his election campaign was guilty of the crime of collusion with the Russians concerning the 2016 election, he could not be found guilty of the crime of obstruction, either. Although such behavior may be deplorable behavior, it would not be a crime.

  • One Voice Provo, UT
    May 2, 2019 5:09 p.m.

    "the main problem with "the President is guilty of obstruction" idea is that the investigation shows that there was no underlying crime to try to hide."

    The report indicated numerous efforts to obstruct, the fact that Trump and his team were too incompetent to accomplish the crime is not a defense. Trump's lack of both policy concept and policy implementation skill is just further evidence of a do-little dictator who makes lots of noise but is always out of tune.

    We barely survived Mike Lee's Tea Party and our nation is in great danger from Trump and Miller and Bannon's goal for the "deconstruction of the administrative state." Admiral McCraven had it right, but not just about Trump: "Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation." The Mueller Report documents but one small part of the dystopia created by the current regime. So Sad.

  • Thomas Jefferson Salt Lake City, UT
    May 2, 2019 11:55 a.m.

    Its time for 'party over country' mike lee to go. He refuses to be an honest person about any of this.

  • Light and Liberty St George, UT
    May 2, 2019 11:13 a.m.

    Kent Deforest: I read the Patti Reagan article. She seemed quite petty. I think her father was the greatest president of the 20th century. I am not sure Reagan could succeed today like he did in the 80's. I love Ronald Reagan. However, if she is worried about democracy surviving under Trump because he tweets, where was she as Obama basically dismantled everything her father stood for and apologized for American exceptionalism, put 1/6th of our economy under Socialism without apology, weakened Religious liberty, our 2nd amendment rights, and admitted that Democrats worshiped him. So, she wants to go after Trump for What? I agree with Senator Lee. Trump has done more for liberty than any president in recent history. The Democrats are looking for any reason to disavow the 2016 election, the man that was voted into office without Republican and Democratic support. How was this possible? It was possible because millions of Americans have watched the lies descend for decades from both parties, but mostly Democratic policies. Now we are to believe them,even after a 2 year investigation. O.K., I know. Just trust the Democrats, no matter what! Tried that! Sorry!

  • scrappy do DRAPER, UT
    May 2, 2019 10:33 a.m.

    Ain’t that the truth

  • dmacpherson Salt Lake City, UT
    May 2, 2019 10:21 a.m.

    It is not just the Dems. We must ALL be losing our minds (or at least our focus). Though the report clears Trump of collusion with Russia, it did find members of his team conspired with Russia. Though Mueller was not able to indict for obstruction of justice (that was beyond his mandate), the report does show multiple instances of obstruction. This is serious stuff.

    But is that what we are talking about? No, we prefer to talk about partisan posturing.

  • Traveller Farmington, UT
    May 2, 2019 10:10 a.m.

    @FrozenFractals
    If Mueller had evidence that the president was guilty of obstruction he would have said so in the report. He did not say "the president is guilty but DOJ rules mean he can't be indicted." Attorney General Barr said that he asked Mueller point blank if the DOJ rule was the reason he didn't come to a conclusion on obstruction and was answered "no". Barr likewise said that his decision not to proceed on an obstruction charge was not based on DOJ rules against indicting a sitting president either, but on a lack of evidence of obstruction. So when everyone says that wasn't the reason, maybe that wasn't the reason.

    Really, the main problem with "the President is guilty of obstruction" idea is that the investigation shows that there was no underlying crime to try to hide.

    A charge of obstruction when there is no underlying crime would essentially be entrapment.
    It should be thrown out of any court in the land as prosecutorial misconduct.

  • cowshed Provo, Utah
    May 2, 2019 10:03 a.m.

    As Senator Lee said, the Democratic leadership seems to be losing their minds. It seems to me that Mr. Mueller could have saved American taxpayers about $25 Million if he had just interviewed Democratic Party leaders who loudly proclaimed on all the Cable TV networks to have incontrovertible evidence that the Trump campaign not only collaborated with the Russians, but that Donald Trump is, in fact, a Russian agent. Mr. Mueller could have used their "incontrovertible" evidence as the basis for charges of collusion against the President and skipped the rest of the investigation. Instead he chose to ignore them and do a thorough investigation which came up with no evidence of collusion.

    It seems to me that Senator Lee is suggesting that the real Russian agents may be the political leaders and liberal media who continue to aid and abet Russian efforts to sew dissension in our country by promulgating misguided and cynical efforts to undermine the results of the 2016 presidential election.

  • Light and Liberty St George, UT
    May 2, 2019 9:50 a.m.

    Trump was not elected by the Republicans or Democrats. How did this man get elected? It was the independents who were so sick and tired of the followers of both those parties who were mostly out of touch with their constituents. Both parties, but mostly Democrats, have been in a fit ever since, doing everything possible to disavow the 2016 election results. Next up, getting rid of the Electoral College! Guess what, however? The independents will be back, along with the constitutional supporters, the limited government, those that like lower taxes, cutting of most social programs, State's rights, and are adamantly against Socialism. We will be back. Trump 2020 and Lee in 2022! Interestingly, I made that decision without Trump or the Republican party telling me how to vote or how to think. The Republican party didn't want Lee either. I know why, which why both will get my vote!

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    May 2, 2019 9:36 a.m.

    "Democrats are losing their minds over the Mueller report," says the man who defends the most corrupt president in history without batting an eye. Lee needs to read the recent editorial by Patti (Reagan) Davis. It would be like looking in the mirror for him, something he ought to do more often.

  • Daedalus, Stephen Arvada, CO
    May 2, 2019 9:30 a.m.

    Sen. Lee: "...the president’s political adversaries have exploited the Mueller probe ... to undermine ... the effectiveness of this administration."

    "... effectiveness of this administration ..."

    Ha!

    Talk about an oxymoron.

    Right up there with other fun absurdities like "jumbo shrimp" or "open secret" or "conservative Republican".

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    May 2, 2019 9:09 a.m.

    If Mike Lee is not bothered by what is contained in the Mueller Report, and in his letter to Barr, Mike does not get it, or he puts party loyalty above country and Constitution. I never want to hear him sanctimoniously bloviate about the Constitution and its principles. He has lost all credibility on the moral high ground. He has chosen to cast his lot with Trump, who is not vindicated by the Report and who continues to subvert the Constitution.

  • Flipphone , 00
    May 2, 2019 8:44 a.m.

    The Democrats are losing their minds over the Mueller report, No Russian collusion with President Trump.

  • Farmington Fan Farmington, UT
    May 2, 2019 8:05 a.m.

    In response to the comment of "rubber goose":

    It's ironic that many Utah Republicans (as members of the LDS faith) who couldn't stand Trump when he was running for President in 2016, due to his obvious personal character flaws that are still very apparent, and who posted signs on their front lawns that said "Anyone but Trump," are now championing him as the best U.S. president ever, and as such a strong candidate for re-election that neither party could possibly present a candidate that would have any chance whatsoever to defeat him.

    I'm an independent who wasn't excited about either candidate selected by the two major political parties for president in 2016 (and none of the non-traditional party candidates). I voted for Hillary Clinton, because--despite her obvious personal character flaws, and despite her close affiliation with Bill Clinton--she at least appeared to somewhat be qualified to be POTUS, unlike Trump.

    I'm pretty sure that a significant portion of the votes cast for President Trump in 2016 were votes cast more against Hillary Clinton than for Donald Trump. And, Hillary Clinton still won the popular vote. That's not a ringing endorsement for Trump's re-election.

  • Puukko Orem , 00
    May 2, 2019 6:01 a.m.

    Sen. Mike Lee is right the Democrats are losing their minds over Mueller report. How many times do the dems want to lose on the Russian hoax? Time to move on to your next scheme dems

  • rubbergoose Bountiful, UT
    May 1, 2019 10:47 p.m.

    Bill 4570 maybe save our pity for those that hate Trump and the Democrats in general for 2020. Prescriptions for anti anxiety medicine will sky rocket like they did November 2016. There is no viable candidate that can defeat Trump.

  • Farmington Fan Farmington, UT
    May 1, 2019 10:34 p.m.

    Mike Lee has now become "Mr. Obvious."

    Of course the Democrats are going to try to use the Mueller Report to undermine Trump's administration.

    If the shoe was on the other foot, the Republicans would be doing exactly the same thing--as they have done in the past (and as the Democrats have also done in the past); this is nothing new in U.S. partisan politics.

    My favorite comment so far is from "VLia - , 00," concerning Senator Lee's comment that the "Democrats are losing their minds over the Mueller Report":

    "No. We are losing our minds because you are our Senator."

    My sentiments exactly--but you said it better!

  • bill4570 ,
    May 1, 2019 9:39 p.m.

    Poor Mikie. He sure is trying hard to find an excuse to maintain his loyalty to "you know who". I am guessing he read the censored version of the Mueller report that was given to the public. Obviously Lee is taking "fake news" lessons from the white house pros.

    Mike, the Dems don't need to work too hard to try to undermine a pres who is doing a real good job of doing that to himself. He is becoming more irrelevant by the day.

    The only problem with this thought of him becoming more irrelevant is the realization that he becomes more dangerous.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    May 1, 2019 8:18 p.m.

    It is time for the Democrats to either fish or cut bait.

    Barring some massive new revelation that somehow Mueller and his dedicated team failed to dig up in the last 2 years, nobody is going to be indicting President Trump for any major crimes.

    So, either call for an impeachment vote in the House and learn what the GOP did with Clinton 25 years ago....or, get on with the business of legislating and leave it to voters to decide in 18 months.

    As a Republican, I actually kind of hope the Democrats, media (but I repeat myself), and the entrenched unelected buearacracy continue their efforts to attack Trump on personality and his pre-election business dealings. Short of the proverbial live boy or dead girl showing up, the public has long stopped caring about those things and so if that is the best the Democrats can come up with, we get another 4 years without a Democrat in the White House.

  • Arkpears Bella Vista, AR
    May 1, 2019 8:06 p.m.

    The best news today was that the real collusion with Russians is going to be thoroughly investigated by Barr and I expect many big names will be indicted. Get your popcorn and hang on for a wild ride. You could see this disparagement and slander against Barr was anticipation of what is going to happen to the Democrats and deep state.

  • fortydam OREM, UT
    May 1, 2019 7:14 p.m.

    It is sad, we’d be going through the same thing if Hillary would have won. The republicans promised it. I guess that’s why Joe Biden is doing well, he from the democratic side and John KasIch the republican side are both welcome voices from the middle. The country let’s the 10 percent of extremists on both sides dictate Washington. We all need to vote the extreme out of Washington. Trump is an embarrassment to the county regardless of “the report”

  • majmajor Layton, UT
    May 1, 2019 6:43 p.m.

    Trump undermines Trump. The Dems don't need any help, but he provides it.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    May 1, 2019 6:29 p.m.

    Of course Dems are exploiting it to undermine Trump, so far I’m 200 pages in and most of it is about how Trump and his camp tried to use Russia to get elected, but stopped just short of conspiracy against America.

    It also confirms just about everything the “liberal media” has reported regarding all things Trump Russia, and paints Trump as a pathological liar.

    I also found it interesting how Trump never once denied working with Russia, instead he said phrases like “I don’t recall” 30 times. I’m pretty sure most Americans would recall working with Russians.

    So yeah Lee, ya think?

  • Kings Court Alpine, UT
    May 1, 2019 6:12 p.m.

    Let’s be honest with ourselves. If the same exact circumstances played out under a Democratic administration, Republicans would be losing their minds and Democrats would be doing whatever they could to run interference on behalf of the President as Republicans are currently doing for Trump.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    May 1, 2019 4:49 p.m.

    @Traveller
    " to try to spin a report that says the President is not guilty of anything criminal"

    That's a lie. The report clearly details cases of obstruction, the only reason he's not being charged is because there's justice department norms against the idea that a president can be indicted.

  • Bob Tanner Price, UT
    May 1, 2019 4:46 p.m.

    Mike Lee is absolutely right. The democrat party will never give up on their effort to bring our President down. If the Mueller report doesn't please them they will quickly come up with another investigation. Count on it.

  • Spencer38 Mapleton, UT
    May 1, 2019 4:37 p.m.

    If you substituted Hillary's name for Trumps and reprinted the report, how many people do you think would still find the actions detailed in the report acceptable?

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    May 1, 2019 4:12 p.m.

    An example of losing minds is the Benghazi "investigations". Chaffetz flew to Libya at taxpayer expense to "investigate". The cost to "investigate" Benghazi cost a lot more than the Mueller investigation did. Mueller's forfeiture of money more than paid for the investigation, along with 32 convictions.

    What is causing anyone to lose their minds is the Lee doesn't care the trump obstructed justice.

    I hope Lee and the GOP remember this the next time they believe a democrat president has broken the law. The GOP is setting up an awful precedent for future charges or impeachment for sitting presidents. They have lost their ability to ever do that again.

  • Mainly Me Werribee, 00
    May 1, 2019 4:03 p.m.

    "The Utah Republican said Democrats have exploited special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation to undermine the effectiveness of the Trump administration."

    Which the Dems are plowing full steam ahead.

    "Democrats are 'losing their minds....'"

    Boy, and how!

  • NEAD SLC, UT
    May 1, 2019 3:52 p.m.

    @RiDal,

    You should read the Mueller report. If you had, you'd know that it fails to find evidence that the Trump campaign engaged in a criminal conspiracy with Russians to participate in legal activities. You would also know that it documents, over hundreds of pages, the Trump campaign's willingness and eagerness to collude with cutouts of the Russian government, but never in a way that violates the law.

    Then, you would know that part II of the report clearly documents a dozen instances in which the President tried to cover up the evidence of those efforts and hinder the investigation into their legality. With a little additional reading, you'd learn that in 4 of those instances, it appears that the three necessary elements for statutory obstruction of justice are met. That is, the Mueller report clearly presents evidence of Donald J. Trump breaking the law by obstructing justice.

    So, when others say that the Mueller report fails to exonerate the president and that it includes evidence of presidential misconduct worthy of indictment, you'll know what they mean, and not have to resort to flailing around with a "no collusion! no collusion!" counterargument.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    May 1, 2019 3:01 p.m.

    @The Dark Night: "I see no reasonable way to reconcile the actual co tent of the Mueller report with the Republican narrarive thar it exonerates the President. "

    Which part of "no collusion by the President or any other US citizen with Russia" requires any "nuance" to understand ?

    No collusion is zero collusion.
    Evidence cannot become any less than zero.
    It is not "a Republican narrative"; it is what the Mueller report specifically states.

    As far as collusion goes: when it has been revealed that there is no underlying crime, and the witch-hunters are trying to burn you at the stake, declining to supply the matches cannot be described as "obstruction" by any rational person. Any reasonable person would be expressing "reluctance to cooperate".

  • Lia , 00
    May 1, 2019 2:55 p.m.

    No.
    We are losing our minds because you are our Senator.

  • JaneB Wilsonville, OR
    May 1, 2019 2:34 p.m.

    Where is Senator Lee, and who is this imposter? I'm frankly shocked, but shouldn't be. Trump corrupts even the incorruptible.

    The findings in the Mueller report are not "baseless innuendo", they are documented findings of obstruction of justice, gross abuse of power, and constant malfeasance in the White House. Lee used to be one of the only principled people in the senate. Where is he, and what the heck happened? There is no "deep state", senator Lee. You're clearly out of your mind.

    Please, someone locate Senator Lee.

  • Unreconstructed Reb BE, 00
    May 1, 2019 2:19 p.m.

    Keep breathlessly clutching those pearls, Mike, instead of actually confronting what's in the report. That would actually require you to show some backbone.

    If you even read it, you'll already be ahead of Senator Graham and Bill Barr, who, based on their statements in today's hearings, are not even very conversant on its contents. Apparently it's not necessary to read the thing to form an opinion of it.

    This nonsense has gone beyond ignoring that the emperor has no clothes. It's refusing to even look at the emperor, because doing so would force them into the uncomfortable position of having to admit it to themselves, much less to anyone else.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    May 1, 2019 2:07 p.m.

    If you haven't seen your keys for two years - you are not "losing" them - they are quantifiably already "lost"

    The term "losing" implies an ongoing action, whereas the current behavior of many Trump-haters is simply an ongoing manifestation of something that already happened - it was "lost" several years ago

  • Mark from Montana Davis County, UT
    May 1, 2019 2:01 p.m.

    Democrats may be losing their minds. Certainly some of them are, but most Republicans in Congress have lost their honor, their integrity and any semblance of fiscal restraint. Plus, they don't seem to know it yet, but has lost the respect of a good half of the Republican Party.

    If we compare the actions of Bill Clinton to Donald Trump, the question to ask is 'Who inflicted the most harm on the country?' Clinton's action harmed the country, did a fair bit of damage to the Office of the President and frankly should have been forced from office. Yet who's actions were worse? There is no question that Trump's actions were much more harmful to the country, to our Republic. He certainly qualifies under the 'high crimes and misdemeanors' clause of the Constitution.

    Should Trump be impeached and found guilty? Probably, but it likely is not the correct action to take. It would be better for the nation to have the Dems or someone else, run a good honorable middle of the road candidate and beat Trump at the ballot box. If forced from office via impeachment, the constitutional crisis would not end well.

  • Traveller Farmington, UT
    May 1, 2019 1:44 p.m.

    Lee is right on the money.

    The only thing he doesn't point out is that having Democrats and their media allies continue to try to spin a report that says the President is not guilty of anything criminal into evidence that he should be impeached is a good way to paint themselves as simply sore losers.

    In other words, forgetting the report and moving on to the next anti-Trump tactic (or better yet - coming up with appealing ideas of their own instead of just opposing the White House, but let's not expect too much) would be the best strategy for Democrats.

    Will they be able to do it?

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    May 1, 2019 1:44 p.m.

    The Senate Judiciary Committee chairman, Lindsey Graham, admitted he has not bothered to read the whole report, but he chairs the committee holding a hearing on the substance of the report.

    To put your faith in folks whom use alternative facts, dishonesty and ignorance as a base for their morals, isn't a sane choice.

    But others have pointed out why Lee is being vocal, lifetime appointment, and if not a book deal. The book/CD deals work out well for politicians, that way when you can't donate more money, you just buy their garbage, hatch was good at this, too.

  • The Dark Knight Salt Lake City, UT
    May 1, 2019 1:42 p.m.

    I see no reasonable way to reconcile the actual co tent of the Mueller report with the Republican narrarive thar it exonerates the President. Senator Lee's conduct throughout this entire debacle has been partisan politics at its worst and completely belies his self-created reputation for revering the constitution. His conduct is disgraceful and he should resign. And Utah voters shoild seriously reconsider their values if this is who they choose to represent them in the senate.

  • delasalle Sandy, UT
    May 1, 2019 1:38 p.m.

    I'm not a fan of Trump but I kind of agree with Mike Lee on this one. The only reason I have no problems with Democrats pursuing this until the very end, however, is I know if the shoe were on the other foot the Republicans would have already impeached a Democrat president over this. Many Republicans including Lee have proven that they are nothing more than extreme hypocrites when it comes to conduct in the White House. Obama, perhaps less competent than some, was at least a saint compared to what we have going on now. CAn we just throw out the whole lot and start this whole thing over again?

  • Furry1993 MSC, UT
    May 1, 2019 1:27 p.m.

    Mike Lee is saying that he can't recognize or like or honor or respect the truth. Just what I expected from him.

  • AndiePandie Park City, UT
    May 1, 2019 1:16 p.m.

    Lee is selling his book; nothing more. He is using is position and name recognition to try and move a million+ copies of his "deep state" book which is took time to write while on the payroll of the american taxpayer. Cut from the same cloth as J. Chaffetz.

    Does he really think the republicans don't play politics with democrats when the positions are reversed?

    A lot of what the Dems are doing is stupid/shameful politics. A lot of what is going on is having a shyster in the oval office. If Lee were even half honest with his constituents he would call out the dems for their corruption while at the same time calling out the president for his. But the president has an "R" next to his name which means it would lessen Lee's power if he were to do that.

    Mike, you are part of the problem and I hope your book sales tank.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    May 1, 2019 1:14 p.m.

    Why is it the GOP accuses the Democrats of being 'Socialists' when they're the ones who asked a Socialist nation for help in the last election and are working overtime to undermine our Constitution, our free press/speech, our independent judicial and DOJ??

    If there's a 'Socialist' here, it's Donald J. Trump.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    May 1, 2019 1:11 p.m.

    Maybe it's because Trump and his campaign tried multiple times to work with the Russians to undermine an election opponent and then tried to silence everyone who was trying to uncover it? Trump even famously, publicly asked the Russians for help in a campaign speech in July 2016.

    Yeah, some of us with a conscience really don't like treason. We don't like our elections being manipulated by Russia and don't like our President or his party ATTACKING everyone who has a problem with that behavior.

    ...and I'm a lifelong GOP voter, I just haven't shut down my conscience for political motives. Mike should listen to his.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    May 1, 2019 12:59 p.m.

    "Democrats have exploited the Mueller investigation to spread baseless innuendo to undermine the effectiveness of President Donald Trump, Sen. Mike Lee said Wednesday."
    ____________________
    Democrats aren't responsible for the illegalities and conduct reported by Mueller from his two year long investigation. Mike Lee and other Republicans who try to mitigate every dark embarrassing disclosure about Trump for the sake of party first are making themselves look foolish and worse.

  • PJL LAYTON, UT
    May 1, 2019 12:57 p.m.

    IN my opinion, Mike Lee wants so much to be on the Supreme Court that he will do or say anything, Including back a mafia style criminal/Trump. Mike Lee has no credibility.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    May 1, 2019 12:55 p.m.

    Lee is always good for a laugh. He doesn't understand why people don't let go of the Mueller report. How long did Lee and his cohorts beat the Benghazi attack into the ground? Looks pretty hypocritical to me.

    The main person that continually undermines the presidency is Trump. There's plenty of dirt in the Mueller report make any nonpartisan person question Trump's behavior and business dealings.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    May 1, 2019 12:54 p.m.

    Perception is everything, and a month ago, the perception is our president obeys the law. Very ironic, corrupt media builds up our 42nd president and then is obsessed openly with his personal life, then builds up 43rd president after 911, and then tears into him critically after the war didn't turn out cool; Senator Lee is correct, media is what gives us perception, and the left runs a lot of the media, yet perhaps media makes a lot of money off our current president, and our media will want his re-election next year, because of humor and smile and large personality that doesn't come from the other side of the isle. Mr. Trump is genius on perception and how to use media, he is always one step ahead of his opponents. He knows USA loves a winner; people who lost the presidency in '96, '00, '04, '08 and '12 and '16 didn't laugh much or use humor. Of course hard to laugh when you are losing, and when opponent paints you in false perception. Not saying all is good in our land, just that this is reality (perception); principle is more important than humor, yet those with simple freedom principles have more cause to smile and enjoy life.

  • There You Go Again St George, UT
    May 1, 2019 12:54 p.m.

    Members of the Democratic party losing their minds?

    The Republican Political Party has morphed into the trumpublican political cartel.

    The once proud Republican Political Party which was centered on fiscal conservatism and family values is now led by an individual who is without integrity, ethics or morals.

    Expoliting the Mueller Report to undermine trump?

    The Mueller Report has shone a bright light on the trump maladministration.

    Like shinning a light on a den of insects scurrying to find cover, the trumpublican cartel is doing everything they can to find political cover.

    Americans are not buying the mendacity the dissembling trumpublicans are selling.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    May 1, 2019 12:46 p.m.

    Any loyal, independent, honest, thinking American would be deeply concerned that Obama did so little to prevent Russia from meddling in the US election.

    Such a person would be deeply concerned that Hillary conspired with Russian agents to create and spread a false "dossier" on a candidate for president.

    S/He would be very concerned that a so-called independent counsel/investigator employed avowed anti-Trump persons on his team to investigate Trump. Recusal at the first hint of personal bias is the standard in all judicial proceedings. Mueller had investigators talking about insurance policies against Trump winning. He fired them only when their bias became public knowledge and could not be denied.

    Anyone committed to free and honest elections in this nation would be deeply concerned with how a few un-elected buearacrats have used their positions to leak out-of-context, less-than-honest information in a conserted effort to delegtimize our duly elected president.

    Mueller has taken issue with the tone of the Barr summary, not with the material facts.

    Time to stop spinning and move on.

    Or, assure Trump a 2nd term as Democrats offer nothing but anti-Trump.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    May 1, 2019 12:29 p.m.

    Any loyal, independent American would be concerned by what is in the Mueller report. It clearly shows our President is unloyal and obstructed justice. Now, if you want to classify independents and Republicans as "losing their minds" and Democrats, than don't be upset when we refer to you as more loyal to party than the principles on which we stand and expect from our President.

  • silo Sandy, UT
    May 1, 2019 12:23 p.m.

    "'The fact is we've got a very significant deep state problem here. We've got a very significant element within the U.S. Department of Justice that appears to have been trying to delegitimize the outcome of the 2016 presidential election,' he said. 'That ought to disturb us.'" - Mike Lee

    Dear Senator Lee.

    Please explain how Obama, who you and others claim was ineffective, was able to install a "deep state" so insidious that Trump, who you consider a great leader, is powerless to combat it.

    Explain how with 2 years of a Republican majority in the House and Senate, and with a favorable Supreme Court, that not a single element of this supposed 'deep state' has been exposed anywhere other than Trump's tweets.

    Explain how the vast, vast majority of corruption dismissals, performance dismissals and voluntary dismissals during Trump's administration have been with the very people Trump himself appointed. In fact, Trump has more turnover, indictments, guilty pleas and convictions of his own appointees in 24 months than the previous 3 presidents had in 24 YEARS combined.