How the U.S and other governments are failing people of faith around the world

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  • skeptic Phoenix, AZ
    May 1, 2019 9:22 a.m.

    It is basically primitive animal tribal behavior elevated to modern economic politics. If we weren't killing one another over religion we would be be fighting over the value of spegetti. Man could change if he wanted to, and if there was a god he could put an end to it. But, for one there is the lack of desire to change; and for the other there is doubtful existence. So things will continue on getting more insane with time and energy until it implodes.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    May 1, 2019 6:27 a.m.

    @ ulvegaard

    "...atheist, Christian, Jew or Muslim -- they shouldn't be dying because of it."

    I completely agree that we have the right and duty to speak out against killing/persecuting people for their beliefs. But aren't we also insisting that these nations tolerate groups within their midst that reject the beliefs their countries are based upon? And some of these groups believe their god ultimately wants them to convert all to their way of thinking, which strikes me as a direct threat to their beliefs. So what if these countries just kicked these groups out without otherwise harming them? Maybe I'm mistaken about this, but I get the feeling that we would object to this too, and consider it a form of persecution. If so, my question is, how would this be any different than excommunication of apostates?

    Don't get me wrong. I'm not defending these countries and I think our 1st Amendment is the best idea going. But while I'm all for trying to convince others of this, if my impression of what we're seeking is correct, then I wonder if we're stepping on our own principle in demanding that others adopt tolerance and calling it persecution if they don't.

  • ulvegaard Medical Lake, Washington
    April 30, 2019 4:01 p.m.

    I am concerned by the comments wherein is stated a lack of concern for working with nations that have the worst records regarding religious freedom. If you're not into religion, that's fine. In my understanding, not believing should be as protected as believing. What I worry about is that around the world people are dying because of their religious standing. I don't care if that religious standing is self identified as atheist, Christian, Jew or Muslim -- they shouldn't be dying because of it.

  • whatsup1 Kekaha, HI
    April 30, 2019 12:30 p.m.

    Thanks for a great article my early morning seminar class just discussed freedom of religion, and this article will be a great follow-up. Thanks for your research and impartial reporting.

  • There You Go Again St George, UT
    April 30, 2019 10:42 a.m.

    Republicans are infamous for telling Americans that government is the problem.

    A Republican leaning news source now lectures Americans that religion needs to be protected by the same government they gleefully castigate on an hourly/daily basis.


  • strom thurmond taylorsville, UT
    April 30, 2019 10:24 a.m.

    Who wants to point out the predominant religion in almost all of the countries listed?

  • Dennis Harrisville, UT
    April 30, 2019 10:04 a.m.

    What possibly does ones "Faith" and religion got to do with the decency of just taking care of others? The undertone of this is "well take care of those that believe what we do but not anyone else". There are times that Christianity completely missed the boat.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    April 30, 2019 9:54 a.m.

    Why on earth should governments protect religion?
    If the US government protected Islam, most readers of the Dnews would be angry as can be.
    It's clearly not the role of government to get involved in religion.
    Furthermore, what is the protection that religion is losing. This keeps being brought up in this paper and the only issue in the last several generations is gay marriage. Religion is not being picked on because gays can legally marry. Not one bit.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    April 30, 2019 9:49 a.m.

    We are not going to “punish” foreign govts for their abuses when we see it in our own nation

    When two US senators, one a dem candidate for president, attack judicial nominees because they belong to the Knights of Columbus, a Catholic service organization; when you have a sitting member of congress showing anti-Semitism by condemning the entire state of Israel; when business owners are prosecuted because they dare to let their personal beliefs enter into how they run their businesses, then you know we have problems right here with a capital P and that rhymes with D and that stands for Dem.

    Liberal politicians have created an environment where only certain types of religion are welcome. Hilary said, “deep seated cultural and religious beliefs and biases have to be changed”. A NYT columnist, wrote that opposing gay marriage based on religion puts “unthinking religious obeisance above intelligent observance.” He argued for “freeing religious people from prejudices they don’t need to cling to.” And said “church leaders must be made to take homosexuality off the sin list.”

    When we have this type of intolerance at home, of course we are not going to encourage religious liberty abroad

  • bemorefair , 00
    April 30, 2019 9:47 a.m.


    I agree with you 100%. That is a very insightful comment, and it's frightening to see the media complicit in these socialists' insidious plan. Our rising generation is falling for it hook, line, and sinker. I fear they may pay a terrible price for such foolishness.

  • bamafone Salem, UT
    April 30, 2019 9:43 a.m.

    It’s comforting to know that certain individuals and groups of non religious folks have reached such lofty levels behavioral attributes, including non judgment of others. The rest of us shlubs have a long way to go in catching up.

  • Red Corvette St George, UT
    April 30, 2019 9:36 a.m.

    Protecting mythology and superstition is what's failing people of faith around the world. Instead, governments should be promoting science and education.

  • zipadeedoodah Lehi, UT
    April 30, 2019 9:24 a.m.

    @Laura Billington who claims Christians are not the most persecuted.
    That is only true because the biggest persecutors of most world religions is by factions within their own. Thus Muslims persecute Muslims, Hindus persecute Hindus, and, alas Christians persecute Christians.

  • bemorefair , 00
    April 30, 2019 9:12 a.m.

    If you look at the percentages of violence perpetuated in the name of religion, the problem is found in Muslim on non-Muslim (Jewish/Christian/Western) violence to some degree, but to a much larger degree, it is Muslim on Muslim violence. It is so sad to watch the daily murders that happen around the globe - such a senseless waste of life.

    And at the root of it all is an extremist ideology that promotes killing in the name of Allah and is backed by verses in a book that allow for the interpretation by extremists to justify their actions. And when extremists raise children from the cradle to be extreme, the problem will be perpetuated for yet another generation. Think of Palestine where the children's shows indoctrinate little, innocent children to hate Israelis.

    As long as this cycle of hatred and violence is allowed to continue, peace will not be on the Earth.

  • Laura Bilington Maple Valley, WA
    April 30, 2019 8:51 a.m.

    @Mainly Me writes,

    "The number one group persecuted for their religion are Christians. "

    They don't make such a claim, you're correct. Mostly because it's not true.

  • kreese Ivins, UT
    April 30, 2019 8:47 a.m.

    RiDAL has it right. One of the problems in America is that we are no longer the "Melting Pot" that we once were. Instead of assimilation, we have become hyphenated Americans. For years, our government was concerned about assimilation....not anymore.

  • ConradGurch Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 30, 2019 8:07 a.m.

    The biggest problem in my opinion is CNN & the media. If a Muslim is shot and killed the whole world knows about it. If a Christian is killed who cares.

  • Bigger Bubba Herriman, UT
    April 30, 2019 8:03 a.m.

    I don't think economic sanctions and throwing money at foreign nations is going to stop terrorists from killing people for religious reasons.

  • sgallen Salt Lake City, UT
    April 30, 2019 7:54 a.m.

    I’m no fan of organized religion (like the other commenter said, religious majorities are responsible for most of the violence), but it does serve a purpose— especially in the developing world. Religion is a large part of maintaining the social fabric. In the coming years, as climate change disproportionately affects poorest countries, religion can serve as a stabilizing force.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    April 30, 2019 7:51 a.m.

    Top priority is to protect our freedoms here, within the USA.
    We already see severe erosion of religious freedom by the secular Left.
    Remember that destruction of religion is a basic tenet of socialism. The socialist state must become the sole arbiter of morality and truth.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    April 30, 2019 7:41 a.m.

    The Atheist... ok, I'll bit. Where have there been mass killings of atheist? I'm not saying they haven't happened, but where have people, particularly in the US, been killed because they self proclaim themselves to be non-believers? It's an honest question - perhaps the media isn't covering it. Or maybe I just missed it. At a lower level, where are you being forced to live against your beliefs? I have many non-believer friends, but I've not heard many complaints of persecution or abuse.

    Educate us....

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    April 30, 2019 7:36 a.m.

    Why do we need religious faith? Among the many answers is this one: Secularism cannot answer the questions of the soul, cannot satisfy need for meaning in our lives and will never sustain us in times of crisis.
    Secularism would have each of us figuratively whistling nervously past every grave yard. It has been said that if you are an atheist, God is not your enemy, death is! Death waits smiling, patiently for each one of us and it does not discriminate, it does not negotiate and it never debates.

  • Ranch Here, UT
    April 30, 2019 6:59 a.m.

    It is the Religious, world-wide, who are targeting other "religious" - and non-religious - and other minority groups.

    While it would be better if such things weren't happening, perhaps the "religious" should look at cleaning their own houses first.

  • Birdman1990 Mapleton, UT
    April 30, 2019 6:38 a.m.

    I don’t think it’s our job to protect religious freedom in the tier 1 and 2 countries of particular concern, I’d also like to point out that the countries of particular concern are some of the most conservative, least secular nations on earth, and it’s not ironic to me that these countries have the least amount of religious freedom.

  • Mainly Me Werribee, 00
    April 30, 2019 5:42 a.m.

    The number one group persecuted for their religion are Christians. Thousands of them are murdered every year and everyone, especially the MSM ignore this.

  • The Atheist Provo, UT
    April 29, 2019 11:32 p.m.

    "World leaders, including presidents and prime ministers, may speak often about the value of religious freedom, but these statements do little to deter the surveillance, imprisonment or murder of vulnerable people of faith."

    Once again, the believers play fast and loose with their claims, completely unaware of and blind to their own biases and prejudices: around the world, non-believers (atheists) are watched, imprisoned, and murdered at least as much as "people of faith"! Even in "civilized" countries, those religious leaders are guilty of prejudice, discrimination, and marginalization of non-believers, preaching blatant falsehoods about atheists from their pulpits.

    Purge your own houses, believers! Then and only then might your sight be clear of the beams by which you can see what is blocking the vision of others!