It is basically primitive animal tribal behavior elevated to modern economic
politics. If we weren't killing one another over religion we would be be
fighting over the value of spegetti. Man could change if he wanted to, and if
there was a god he could put an end to it. But, for one there is the lack of
desire to change; and for the other there is doubtful existence. So things will
continue on getting more insane with time and energy until it implodes.
@ ulvegaard"...atheist, Christian, Jew or Muslim -- they
shouldn't be dying because of it."I completely agree that
we have the right and duty to speak out against killing/persecuting people for
their beliefs. But aren't we also insisting that these nations tolerate
groups within their midst that reject the beliefs their countries are based
upon? And some of these groups believe their god ultimately wants them to
convert all to their way of thinking, which strikes me as a direct threat to
their beliefs. So what if these countries just kicked these groups out without
otherwise harming them? Maybe I'm mistaken about this, but I get the
feeling that we would object to this too, and consider it a form of persecution.
If so, my question is, how would this be any different than excommunication of
apostates?Don't get me wrong. I'm not defending these
countries and I think our 1st Amendment is the best idea going. But while
I'm all for trying to convince others of this, if my impression of what
we're seeking is correct, then I wonder if we're stepping on our own
principle in demanding that others adopt tolerance and calling it persecution if
I am concerned by the comments wherein is stated a lack of concern for working
with nations that have the worst records regarding religious freedom. If
you're not into religion, that's fine. In my understanding, not
believing should be as protected as believing. What I worry about is that
around the world people are dying because of their religious standing. I
don't care if that religious standing is self identified as atheist,
Christian, Jew or Muslim -- they shouldn't be dying because of it.
Thanks for a great article my early morning seminar class just discussed freedom
of religion, and this article will be a great follow-up. Thanks for your
research and impartial reporting.
Republicans are infamous for telling Americans that government is the
problem.A Republican leaning news source now lectures Americans that
religion needs to be protected by the same government they gleefully castigate
on an hourly/daily basis. Perfect.
Who wants to point out the predominant religion in almost all of the countries
What possibly does ones "Faith" and religion got to do with the decency
of just taking care of others? The undertone of this is "well take care of
those that believe what we do but not anyone else". There are times that
Christianity completely missed the boat.
Why on earth should governments protect religion?If the US government
protected Islam, most readers of the Dnews would be angry as can be.It's clearly not the role of government to get involved in religion.Furthermore, what is the protection that religion is losing. This keeps being
brought up in this paper and the only issue in the last several generations is
gay marriage. Religion is not being picked on because gays can legally marry.
Not one bit.
We are not going to “punish” foreign govts for their abuses when we
see it in our own nation When two US senators, one a dem candidate
for president, attack judicial nominees because they belong to the Knights of
Columbus, a Catholic service organization; when you have a sitting member of
congress showing anti-Semitism by condemning the entire state of Israel; when
business owners are prosecuted because they dare to let their personal beliefs
enter into how they run their businesses, then you know we have problems right
here with a capital P and that rhymes with D and that stands for Dem.Liberal politicians have created an environment where only certain types of
religion are welcome. Hilary said, “deep seated cultural and religious
beliefs and biases have to be changed”. A NYT columnist, wrote that
opposing gay marriage based on religion puts “unthinking religious
obeisance above intelligent observance.” He argued for “freeing
religious people from prejudices they don’t need to cling to.” And
said “church leaders must be made to take homosexuality off the sin
list.”When we have this type of intolerance at home, of course
we are not going to encourage religious liberty abroad
@RiDal I agree with you 100%. That is a very insightful comment, and
it's frightening to see the media complicit in these socialists'
insidious plan. Our rising generation is falling for it hook, line, and sinker.
I fear they may pay a terrible price for such foolishness.
It’s comforting to know that certain individuals and groups of non
religious folks have reached such lofty levels behavioral attributes, including
non judgment of others. The rest of us shlubs have a long way to go in catching
Protecting mythology and superstition is what's failing people of faith
around the world. Instead, governments should be promoting science and
@Laura Billington who claims Christians are not the most persecuted. That
is only true because the biggest persecutors of most world religions is by
factions within their own. Thus Muslims persecute Muslims, Hindus persecute
Hindus, and, alas Christians persecute Christians.
If you look at the percentages of violence perpetuated in the name of religion,
the problem is found in Muslim on non-Muslim (Jewish/Christian/Western) violence
to some degree, but to a much larger degree, it is Muslim on Muslim violence. It
is so sad to watch the daily murders that happen around the globe - such a
senseless waste of life.And at the root of it all is an extremist
ideology that promotes killing in the name of Allah and is backed by verses in a
book that allow for the interpretation by extremists to justify their actions.
And when extremists raise children from the cradle to be extreme, the problem
will be perpetuated for yet another generation. Think of Palestine where the
children's shows indoctrinate little, innocent children to hate Israelis.
As long as this cycle of hatred and violence is allowed to continue,
peace will not be on the Earth.
@Mainly Me writes,"The number one group persecuted for their
religion are Christians. "They don't make such a claim,
you're correct. Mostly because it's not true.
RiDAL has it right. One of the problems in America is that we are no longer the
"Melting Pot" that we once were. Instead of assimilation, we have
become hyphenated Americans. For years, our government was concerned about
The biggest problem in my opinion is CNN & the media. If a Muslim is shot
and killed the whole world knows about it. If a Christian is killed who cares.
I don't think economic sanctions and throwing money at foreign nations is
going to stop terrorists from killing people for religious reasons.
I’m no fan of organized religion (like the other commenter said, religious
majorities are responsible for most of the violence), but it does serve a
purpose— especially in the developing world. Religion is a large part of
maintaining the social fabric. In the coming years, as climate change
disproportionately affects poorest countries, religion can serve as a
Top priority is to protect our freedoms here, within the USA.We already
see severe erosion of religious freedom by the secular Left.Remember that
destruction of religion is a basic tenet of socialism. The socialist state must
become the sole arbiter of morality and truth.
The Atheist... ok, I'll bit. Where have there been mass killings of
atheist? I'm not saying they haven't happened, but where have
people, particularly in the US, been killed because they self proclaim
themselves to be non-believers? It's an honest question - perhaps the
media isn't covering it. Or maybe I just missed it. At a lower level,
where are you being forced to live against your beliefs? I have many
non-believer friends, but I've not heard many complaints of persecution or
Why do we need religious faith? Among the many answers is this one: Secularism
cannot answer the questions of the soul, cannot satisfy need for meaning in our
lives and will never sustain us in times of crisis.Secularism would have
each of us figuratively whistling nervously past every grave yard. It has been
said that if you are an atheist, God is not your enemy, death is! Death waits
smiling, patiently for each one of us and it does not discriminate, it does not
negotiate and it never debates.
It is the Religious, world-wide, who are targeting other "religious" -
and non-religious - and other minority groups. While it would be
better if such things weren't happening, perhaps the "religious"
should look at cleaning their own houses first.
I don’t think it’s our job to protect religious freedom in the tier
1 and 2 countries of particular concern, I’d also like to point out that
the countries of particular concern are some of the most conservative, least
secular nations on earth, and it’s not ironic to me that these countries
have the least amount of religious freedom.
The number one group persecuted for their religion are Christians. Thousands of
them are murdered every year and everyone, especially the MSM ignore this.
"World leaders, including presidents and prime ministers, may speak often
about the value of religious freedom, but these statements do little to deter
the surveillance, imprisonment or murder of vulnerable people of faith."Once again, the believers play fast and loose with their claims,
completely unaware of and blind to their own biases and prejudices: around the
world, non-believers (atheists) are watched, imprisoned, and murdered at least
as much as "people of faith"! Even in "civilized" countries,
those religious leaders are guilty of prejudice, discrimination, and
marginalization of non-believers, preaching blatant falsehoods about atheists
from their pulpits.Purge your own houses, believers! Then and only
then might your sight be clear of the beams by which you can see what is
blocking the vision of others!