Infighting erupts at NRA convention, threatening leadership

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  • one old man MSC, UT
    April 27, 2019 6:09 p.m.

    Can't think of a better organization to be beset with turmoil.

    May it increase a thousandfold!

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    April 27, 2019 5:07 p.m.

    @Frozen Fractals: "Most crime rates are down compared to the 80s-early 90s...."

    To be clear, violent crime rates are less than 1/2 what they were in the late 80s, early 90s when most people were not allowed to carry a gun for self defense. These rates are lower than the mid-90s and early 2000s when certain guns and magazines were subject to national bans.

    So why the heartburn over private gun ownership? Where is the evidence that more gun laws, more limits on my constitutional rights, will reduce crime?

    @LOU Montana: "As a former police officer I still carry the oath to serve and protect."

    Then also abide your oath to defend the constitution. The Supreme Court has ruled that the individual right to keep and bears is not in any way dependent on militia membership. If you won't respect that decision, you cannot with any honesty demand that conservatives respect decisions on elective abortion or same sex marriage.

    Assault rifles are already banned. What you are attacking are cosmetic features you don't like.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    April 27, 2019 4:29 p.m.

    The fact is, where there are more guns, there are more gun deaths. Its not rocket science.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    April 27, 2019 3:54 p.m.

    We should all be thankful when tensions rise and infighting breaks out among NRA members, guns are not allowed inside the NRA convention hall.

    Now if the NRA could only apply that type of practical, common sense thinking to the rest of their philosophy.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    April 27, 2019 3:44 p.m.

    If I believed for one second that gun laws kept guns out of criminal's hands I would entusiastically support gun laws! They don't and they never will! The best crime prevention is better morals in people's hearts! Take your kids to church and teach them correct moral principles in your home! Much better than more useless gun laws!
    Sadly, there was another mass shooting in a California synagogue today! And even more sadly, there will be more no matter how many gun laws Democrats clamor for! Welcome to your "freedom from religion" America. Police can't protect you from amoral anti-socialist behavior any longer!

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    April 27, 2019 10:56 a.m.

    @Thid Barker
    Most crime rates are down compared to the 80s-early 90s and some of the states with the highest atheist rates (Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine) are also among the best for having the lowest crime rates.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    April 27, 2019 10:45 a.m.

    Thid, no victims here.

    I grew up as a farm boy and our father, who was in the Marine Corps for 14 years, taught us to respect firearms at a very early age. As a youth I was a loyal member of the NRA. Guns and hunting is all I use to live for.

    As a father and a grandfather I have passed on those same values.

    I believe "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    I do not believe any untrained person should be able to buy assault rifle or a handgun. These are weapons that are capable of mass destruction and should not be allowed in the hands of untrained people.

    The NRA has NO business going to Russia, meeting with Putin's henchmen, and funneling money to Trump's campaign.

    As a former police officer I still carry the oath to serve and protect.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    April 27, 2019 9:40 a.m.

    LOU Montana: Putin is not a member of the NRA! Russia’s gun control laws are quite strict, just like Chicago. Its better to have a gun in our hands than a cop of the phone! If gun laws could only keep criminals from getting guns, I would support it, but they never do! Gun laws only punish law abiding citizens and make them easy victims! That's why criminals always target gun free places instead of police stations and people who are armed! Some of us refuse to be victims! But you can be if you choose!

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    April 27, 2019 9:25 a.m.

    The NRA has an American problem.

    The NRA is too politically involved and promotes a message of hate.

    Instead of having an understanding voice and working with victims of gun violence to promote a safer America, the NRA doubles down on hateful attacks.

    The NRA has become one of Putin's valuable tools of dividing our nation.

    The tactics of fearmongering of liberals taking guns and freedom is a method taken right from Joseph Goebbels playbook.

    With the NRA visit to Russia in 2015 only solidified their motivation to divide our country.

    I really wish the NRA would go back to being a patriotic Institute that America loves instead of an anti-AmericanIinstitute of division and hate in the back pocket of Putin.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    April 27, 2019 6:47 a.m.

    The NRA and guns are not the problem. The problem is hearts without morals, homes without discipline, schools without prayer and courtrooms with no justice! Not long ago most Americans attended a church of their choice where people they respected taught them they were accountable to God for their choices and the vast majority of people voluntarily obeyed the civil laws.
    Today's America is different! Religion (particularly Christianity) is frequently mocked and ridiculed and therefore the rising generation believes moral behavior is relative and they are not accountable to anyone. Therefore, we will have many, many more of every kind of terrible anti-social problem! It will get worse no matter how many gun laws Democrats pass because they will never legislate evil out of the hearts of people. Social chaos and crime are the prices we pay and will pay for a secular society and the consequences of non-religious homes, secular run schools and activist judge courtrooms! The next mass murder is already out there and the next and the next and the next and Democrats will NEVER stop them with gun laws! Why? America has a moral problem, not a gun problem!