@Eggplant "I think we're going to learn an awful lot more in the
coming weeks and months."And while you're waiting for this
gold mine of information you should read the Mueller Report!
Donald Trump continues to misrepresent himself to the American people and his
role in American democratic governance. Although he prefers to portray himself
as the epitome of the nation, he forgets that he is a short-time resident of the
White House Trump is not the United States as previously mentioned by others in
this thread. He is the temporary leader, but he is not forever.When
Trump refers to the Mueller investigation as a "coup", he forgets that
every four years we have a presidential revolution in this country known as an
"election". The Mueller investigation may play a part in the upcoming
2020 election. Voters will have much more information than before to decide who
will occupy the White House next year. So, in a way, there is a coming
"coup" where voters will decide. That's what our Constitution
demands regardless of what Trump may think on the matter.Within the
coming months, we'll know more about the Russians criminal attack on our
election and our democratic values. We may know why Trump is enamored of
Vladimir Putin. Voters will decide the direction they want to go going forward.
Also, be assured that Trump will again welcome all the Russian help he can get.
Eponymous Eggplant - Salt Lake City, UT"I find it interesting
that you refer to the information that discredits Hillary Clinton as
"propaganda." We're talking about DNC emails . . . "You misread my statement. The information stolen from the DNC by Russian
hackers, released through WikiLeaks, kept the focus in the election on emails,
and by extension, the Hilliary Clinton email server mini-scandal suggesting
something nefarious was going on when it turned out to be simple stupidity in
handling classified information as the FBI determined. The Trump
campaign promoted and encouraged this Russian interference because it worked in
its favor suggesting that Clinton was deceitful and criminally negligent.
Without the constant dribble of WikiLeaks dumps of non-relevant emails, it kept
the focus on Clinton and away from Trump's 'Access Hollywood'
sexual escapades. So, in a way, the email dumps were a direct propaganda ploy to
misdirect American's attention from revelations about Trump and ultimately
give an electoral advantage to him in several critical swing states.The propaganda effort, however, was primarily with social media and the spread
of disinformation to gullible targets.
Jim Chee, your response to Spokane Ute was OUTSTANDING!It's a
real shame others are unwilling to seek the truth and what is best for America
instead of worshipping trump.I simply cannot understand that kind of
thing. But, then there are a lot of things about trump I also can't
@Mad Hatter: The only actual Russian collusion wasn't the subject of the
Mueller probe. I believe the Clinton cabal will be brought to justice and those
who participated in this coup attempt will be prosecuted. I think we're
going to learn an awful lot more in the coming weeks and months.I
find it interesting that you refer to the information that discredits Hillary
Clinton as "propaganda." We're talking about DNC emails, the
authenticity of which has never been challenged. You can say
"propaganda" if you want; it's still a free country. However,
I'm going to disagree and instead call Hillary Clinton rigging the DNC
primary the "truth." ProTip: Truth trumps propaganda.
Eponymous Eggplant - Salt Lake City, UTApril 26, 2019 7:46 a.m."The editorial board's decision to effectively double down on the
Russian Collusion hoax . . . "Did you even bother to read the
Mueller report? It appears you only get your information from a single source.
If you took the time to read the report, because of the incomplete nature of the
investigation, Robert Mueller's team was unable to prove beyond a
reasonable doubt that a conspiracy took place. There is much circumstantial
evidence to support the charge of conspiracy, but Mueller was unable meet the
legal requirements necessary according to the report.This
doesn't not meant we have resolved this issue. There is much that remains
unanswered. Although we have much peripheral information in support of a
conspiracy conclusion, it is not at this time definitive. The fact that the
Russian government was doing all it could to help the Trump campaign and the
Trump campaign was very receptive to that help is not enough according to
Mueller. It remains indisputable that the propaganda discredit Hillary Clinton
and theft/release of materials by Russian actors were a key component of a Trump
victory in 2016.
Spokane Ute - Spokane, WAApril 26, 2019 11:04 a.m."If the
left spent half as much time loving this country as they do hating Trump . . .
"I don't know what to make out of statements like this. I
don't know if the writer understands the difference between "love of
country" and "adoration of personality". This is particularly
worrisome when he conflates the two as one. He doesn't even define what he
means as "love of country" and the values we share.Donald
Trump is not the United States of America. He is supposed to be America's
servant, but is only interested in a small minority of Americans who give their
allegiance to him. Trump will eventually be gone, but the United States will go
on. He is the representative of the nation, not the nation. The writer needs to
be able to make that distinction before he can understand that the Americans who
are opposed to Trump are true patriots, many have served this country in war and
in peace, and they continue to believe in the values set down in the Declaration
of Independence and the Constitution.The writer doesn't
understand the opposition to Trump resides in the basic American ideas of
freedom, justice, and fairness to ALL PEOPLE.
Two words: Glenn Simpson.
Spokane Ute: "If the left spent half as much time loving this country as
they do hating Trump that would be something."If by "loving
this country", you mean subverting the U.S. Constitution at every turn, and
then pandering to its hostile adversaries like Putin....nah, I'm good.
If the left spent half as much time loving this country as they do hating Trump
that would be something. Mean while their 401K's skyrocket and the GDP
grows. That doesn't matter though to the cry babies wanting everything for
free out there.
A crucial lesson learned from in the Watergate scandal is that the risks in
attempting a coverup are that at some point down the road the truth will find a
way of coming out in ways the participants did not anticipate. It's always
best to seek legitimate ways to deal with uncomfortable and problematic
situations that do not lead to illegalities in which your later find yourself
trapped. To cite a well known cliche, honesty is the best policy,
Article: As they flew home, she presented Trump with a draft statement on his
son's behalf that said simply he'd been asked by someone he knew from
the Miss Universe pageant to meet someone who might have information helpful to
the campaign.Too much information, Trump told her. Just say the
meeting was brief and about adoption.So why would he lie about this?
Why would he make up a lie and make up a false statement to be released as the
truth? How is this not obstruction?
And this is exactly why trump is completely terrified of the idea of any members
of his inside circle being called to testify before Congress.
The editorial board's decision to effectively double down on the Russian
Collusion hoax by rehashing the failed narrative from the one-sided Mueller
investigation is a significant error in judgment. One has to wonder, where is
the balanced reporting? For example, why is Fusion GPS's involvement with
the Trump Tower meeting participants ignored? (Google it.)It seems
that we'll have to wait for the IG report and the DOJ's investigations
into the origins of the Mueller probe before the media is ready to tell the
truth instead of a "narrative" (although much has already been released
via FOIA). Perhaps Mr. Matheson should interview Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch.
I'm sure there's a lot that's "Really bad", in the
Mueller report, which we won't see until Trump is out of office.Since
Trump and his supporters take what FOX News tells them, over their own eyes and
ears,here's what FOX chief legal analyst, Judge Andrew Napolitano
said this morning. Remember Trumpsters, this is from FOX, it's gospel. “I’m disappointed in the behavior of the president,”
Napolitano said in his video. “His job is to preserve, protect and defend
the Constitution of the United States to uphold and enforce federal law. Not to
violate it."“But ordering obstruction to save himself from the
consequences of his own behavior is unlawful, defenseless and
Yet more unethical, possibly illegal behavior by the President and his
associates.Is this really the country we wish to live in, one in
which lying to cover up embarrassing, unethical or illegal actions are
encouraged at the highest levels of government?I don't care
what Obama or Bush II did anymore as Presidents, so Trump devotees please
don't go there. Explain how the President should be exonerated for lying
about things, encouraging others to lie about things and possible obstruction of
justice. And explain how this is good for the country.
When you are flying by the seat of your pants because you don't really know
what's going on, these kinds of things happen around you all the time.Trump doesn't know what he is doing and will simply keep firing
people around him instead of facing the fact he's in over his head. He was,
and remains, a terrible actor. He was a horrible businessman. What makes people
think he should be any good at the job of President.Help him off the
stage, please. Jeb, or Mitt, or Evan, or Jeff, or Kasich. Anyone but Trump.