Trump Tower meeting emails 'really bad,' aide told Trump

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  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    April 27, 2019 8:02 a.m.

    @Eggplant "I think we're going to learn an awful lot more in the coming weeks and months."

    And while you're waiting for this gold mine of information you should read the Mueller Report!

  • Mackenzie Iwamoto Bronx, NY
    April 26, 2019 6:06 p.m.

    Donald Trump continues to misrepresent himself to the American people and his role in American democratic governance. Although he prefers to portray himself as the epitome of the nation, he forgets that he is a short-time resident of the White House Trump is not the United States as previously mentioned by others in this thread. He is the temporary leader, but he is not forever.

    When Trump refers to the Mueller investigation as a "coup", he forgets that every four years we have a presidential revolution in this country known as an "election". The Mueller investigation may play a part in the upcoming 2020 election. Voters will have much more information than before to decide who will occupy the White House next year. So, in a way, there is a coming "coup" where voters will decide. That's what our Constitution demands regardless of what Trump may think on the matter.

    Within the coming months, we'll know more about the Russians criminal attack on our election and our democratic values. We may know why Trump is enamored of Vladimir Putin. Voters will decide the direction they want to go going forward. Also, be assured that Trump will again welcome all the Russian help he can get.

  • Mad Hatter Santa Fe, NM
    April 26, 2019 5:41 p.m.

    Eponymous Eggplant - Salt Lake City, UT

    "I find it interesting that you refer to the information that discredits Hillary Clinton as "propaganda." We're talking about DNC emails . . . "

    You misread my statement. The information stolen from the DNC by Russian hackers, released through WikiLeaks, kept the focus in the election on emails, and by extension, the Hilliary Clinton email server mini-scandal suggesting something nefarious was going on when it turned out to be simple stupidity in handling classified information as the FBI determined.

    The Trump campaign promoted and encouraged this Russian interference because it worked in its favor suggesting that Clinton was deceitful and criminally negligent. Without the constant dribble of WikiLeaks dumps of non-relevant emails, it kept the focus on Clinton and away from Trump's 'Access Hollywood' sexual escapades. So, in a way, the email dumps were a direct propaganda ploy to misdirect American's attention from revelations about Trump and ultimately give an electoral advantage to him in several critical swing states.

    The propaganda effort, however, was primarily with social media and the spread of disinformation to gullible targets.

  • one old man MSC, UT
    April 26, 2019 5:24 p.m.

    Jim Chee, your response to Spokane Ute was OUTSTANDING!

    It's a real shame others are unwilling to seek the truth and what is best for America instead of worshipping trump.

    I simply cannot understand that kind of thing. But, then there are a lot of things about trump I also can't understand.

  • Eponymous Eggplant Salt Lake City, UT
    April 26, 2019 3:44 p.m.

    @Mad Hatter: The only actual Russian collusion wasn't the subject of the Mueller probe. I believe the Clinton cabal will be brought to justice and those who participated in this coup attempt will be prosecuted. I think we're going to learn an awful lot more in the coming weeks and months.

    I find it interesting that you refer to the information that discredits Hillary Clinton as "propaganda." We're talking about DNC emails, the authenticity of which has never been challenged. You can say "propaganda" if you want; it's still a free country. However, I'm going to disagree and instead call Hillary Clinton rigging the DNC primary the "truth."

    ProTip: Truth trumps propaganda.

  • Mad Hatter Santa Fe, NM
    April 26, 2019 2:12 p.m.

    Eponymous Eggplant - Salt Lake City, UT
    April 26, 2019 7:46 a.m.

    "The editorial board's decision to effectively double down on the Russian Collusion hoax . . . "

    Did you even bother to read the Mueller report? It appears you only get your information from a single source. If you took the time to read the report, because of the incomplete nature of the investigation, Robert Mueller's team was unable to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a conspiracy took place. There is much circumstantial evidence to support the charge of conspiracy, but Mueller was unable meet the legal requirements necessary according to the report.

    This doesn't not meant we have resolved this issue. There is much that remains unanswered. Although we have much peripheral information in support of a conspiracy conclusion, it is not at this time definitive. The fact that the Russian government was doing all it could to help the Trump campaign and the Trump campaign was very receptive to that help is not enough according to Mueller. It remains indisputable that the propaganda discredit Hillary Clinton and theft/release of materials by Russian actors were a key component of a Trump victory in 2016.

  • Jim Chee Lahaina, HI
    April 26, 2019 1:55 p.m.

    Spokane Ute - Spokane, WA
    April 26, 2019 11:04 a.m.

    "If the left spent half as much time loving this country as they do hating Trump . . . "

    I don't know what to make out of statements like this. I don't know if the writer understands the difference between "love of country" and "adoration of personality". This is particularly worrisome when he conflates the two as one. He doesn't even define what he means as "love of country" and the values we share.

    Donald Trump is not the United States of America. He is supposed to be America's servant, but is only interested in a small minority of Americans who give their allegiance to him. Trump will eventually be gone, but the United States will go on. He is the representative of the nation, not the nation. The writer needs to be able to make that distinction before he can understand that the Americans who are opposed to Trump are true patriots, many have served this country in war and in peace, and they continue to believe in the values set down in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

    The writer doesn't understand the opposition to Trump resides in the basic American ideas of freedom, justice, and fairness to ALL PEOPLE.

  • Count Rushmore Salt Lake City, UT
    April 26, 2019 1:36 p.m.

    Two words: Glenn Simpson.

  • Ralph Salt Lake City, UT
    April 26, 2019 11:49 a.m.

    Spokane Ute: "If the left spent half as much time loving this country as they do hating Trump that would be something."

    If by "loving this country", you mean subverting the U.S. Constitution at every turn, and then pandering to its hostile adversaries like Putin....nah, I'm good.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    April 26, 2019 11:04 a.m.

    If the left spent half as much time loving this country as they do hating Trump that would be something. Mean while their 401K's skyrocket and the GDP grows. That doesn't matter though to the cry babies wanting everything for free out there.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    April 26, 2019 9:22 a.m.

    A crucial lesson learned from in the Watergate scandal is that the risks in attempting a coverup are that at some point down the road the truth will find a way of coming out in ways the participants did not anticipate. It's always best to seek legitimate ways to deal with uncomfortable and problematic situations that do not lead to illegalities in which your later find yourself trapped. To cite a well known cliche, honesty is the best policy,

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    April 26, 2019 8:40 a.m.

    Article: As they flew home, she presented Trump with a draft statement on his son's behalf that said simply he'd been asked by someone he knew from the Miss Universe pageant to meet someone who might have information helpful to the campaign.

    Too much information, Trump told her. Just say the meeting was brief and about adoption.

    So why would he lie about this? Why would he make up a lie and make up a false statement to be released as the truth? How is this not obstruction?

  • one old man MSC, UT
    April 26, 2019 8:32 a.m.

    And this is exactly why trump is completely terrified of the idea of any members of his inside circle being called to testify before Congress.

  • Eponymous Eggplant Salt Lake City, UT
    April 26, 2019 7:46 a.m.

    The editorial board's decision to effectively double down on the Russian Collusion hoax by rehashing the failed narrative from the one-sided Mueller investigation is a significant error in judgment. One has to wonder, where is the balanced reporting? For example, why is Fusion GPS's involvement with the Trump Tower meeting participants ignored? (Google it.)

    It seems that we'll have to wait for the IG report and the DOJ's investigations into the origins of the Mueller probe before the media is ready to tell the truth instead of a "narrative" (although much has already been released via FOIA). Perhaps Mr. Matheson should interview Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    April 26, 2019 7:47 a.m.

    I'm sure there's a lot that's "Really bad", in the Mueller report, which we won't see until Trump is out of office.
    Since Trump and his supporters take what FOX News tells them, over their own eyes and ears,
    here's what FOX chief legal analyst, Judge Andrew Napolitano said this morning. Remember Trumpsters, this is from FOX, it's gospel.

    “I’m disappointed in the behavior of the president,” Napolitano said in his video. “His job is to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States to uphold and enforce federal law. Not to violate it."
    “But ordering obstruction to save himself from the consequences of his own behavior is unlawful, defenseless and condemnable,”

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    April 26, 2019 7:33 a.m.

    Yet more unethical, possibly illegal behavior by the President and his associates.

    Is this really the country we wish to live in, one in which lying to cover up embarrassing, unethical or illegal actions are encouraged at the highest levels of government?

    I don't care what Obama or Bush II did anymore as Presidents, so Trump devotees please don't go there. Explain how the President should be exonerated for lying about things, encouraging others to lie about things and possible obstruction of justice. And explain how this is good for the country.

  • The Meliorist CA, 00
    April 26, 2019 7:02 a.m.

    When you are flying by the seat of your pants because you don't really know what's going on, these kinds of things happen around you all the time.

    Trump doesn't know what he is doing and will simply keep firing people around him instead of facing the fact he's in over his head. He was, and remains, a terrible actor. He was a horrible businessman. What makes people think he should be any good at the job of President.

    Help him off the stage, please. Jeb, or Mitt, or Evan, or Jeff, or Kasich. Anyone but Trump.