In our opinion: Cleaning Utah's air needs a mindset of action

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  • sgallen Salt Lake City, UT
    April 29, 2019 10:02 a.m.

    Why can’t Utah be aspirational as well?

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    April 29, 2019 7:41 a.m.

    To "UtahBlueDevil " Buy why go after the small contributor? Look at it this way. If you can get 10% reduction in pollution from cars, that gets you the equivalent of a 50% reduction from industry.

    We are headed towards elimination of the internal combustion engine, but if the goal is to eliminate pollution why go after the small sources instead of the largest source?

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    April 27, 2019 8:39 p.m.

    Redshirt - just because we can't fix the problem 100% today, that doesn't mean you don't start and you don't try.

  • RedShirtMIT Cambridge, MA
    April 26, 2019 1:46 p.m.

    To "Fitz " but CO2 isn't a pollutant. To clean the air you have to get rid of the fine particulates, NOx, and ozone.

  • Fitz Salt Lake City, UT
    April 26, 2019 12:09 p.m.

    There was an interesting a couple of days from the WSJ Opinion. The opinion reads, " A study by the IFO think tank in Munich found that a popular electric car releases more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than a comparable diesel engine. The authors compared CO2 output for a Tesla Model 3 and a Mercedes C220d sedan....The main Tesla problem-and subject of a long running-debate- concerns CO2 emitted to manufacture the battery."

    This is a new opinion from Germany. Many will ignore it, some will laugh at it, but others will continue to research this WSJ Opinion thought process.

  • RedShirtMIT Cambridge, MA
    April 26, 2019 11:34 a.m.

    What a boondoggle. If you look at the sources of pollution in the valley, the primary source is the automobile. How are you going to get rid of that? I can't afford a new all electric car.

    Now, if we did go to all electric cars do we have the nearly pollution free power generation sources for them or will that just transfer the pollution source?

    To "Red Smith" Go to the KUED article "Pollution Sources". You will see that homes are only responsible for 32% of pollution. Your car is part of the larger problem.

    To "Impartial7 " See 'Inland Ports: Planning Successful Developments " by the University of Texas. They found that the port REDUCES pollution because fewer trucks are traveling long distances through the area.

  • liberal larry Salt Lake City, UT
    April 26, 2019 11:30 a.m.

    Utah legislators don't have the gumption to stand up to big polluters in Salt Lake Valley!

    Heck, they don't even have the will to stand up to small polluters!

    They totally caved on new building energy efficiency standards, dropped ev incentives, and raised the speed limit on I-15!

    Any improvements to Utah airs quality, can be attributed to closing Geneva, the price of natural gas driving out coal, seasonal weather variations, and EPA emission standard advances.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    April 26, 2019 10:35 a.m.

    "As an example, emissions from industrial sources in Utah have dropped 47 percent since 1995,"

    The problem with this quote is a large amount of that reduction can be attributed to the shuttering of Geneva Steel which was a single source of a lot of the particulate in Utah Valley, that flowed up into Salt Lake County. Not all by any means, but a large contributor.

    That said, initiatives like these are always best run at the local level. The environment is actually a very personal thing. It's something we all interact with regardless of political leanings. It's not partisan when you look out your window and see a grey ring of haze below the mountains. It's not a large leap of logic to understand that breathing that kind of air probably isn't the best for you and your families.

    The decision to take action needs to be local. Because the changes that need to be made are local, and the benefits will be local. Republicans and Democrats (independents too) all want to breath clean air, have usable water, and enjoy the outdoors. It's why many of us are here.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    April 26, 2019 10:02 a.m.

    " As an example, emissions from industrial sources in Utah have dropped 47 percent since 1995, reports the Deseret News' Amy Joi O'Donoghue."
    Doubtful. Utah DAQ/DEQ, if they weren't in the pockets of Big Extraction and Big Energy, could require tougher pollution controls, available and in use in other states, to be mandatory here. But, we'll hear how "regulation kills industry", or as one Inland Port board member said "the economy is more important than the environment". That's how they think. $$$ from industry, flowing into their pockets, are more important than the health of Utah citizens. Until we pass laws that make "donations" to politicians illegal, from businesses that are regulated by government, they will always put cash over the health and safety of us and our kids. It violates their so called religious principles.

  • What in Tucket Provo, UT
    April 26, 2019 8:10 a.m.

    A modest reduction in emissions might be possible if strangulating regulations were removed that restrict rail freight. A lot of companies send their product by truck because if red tape saddled on rail. Rail makes much less pollution proportional to the freight carried.
    It is possible that the hydrogen fuel invented by Technion of Israel and now in cooperation with Global-Electriq of Australia is constructing a fuel plant in Holland to test on trains, barges, and trucks. If it works and goes global it will dramatically reduce emissions since it's emission is water, and resurrect the internal combustion engine.

  • Red Smith , 00
    April 26, 2019 7:37 a.m.

    When we have the guts, the spine and the backbone to ban charcoal BBQ's, 2 stroke motors, end the use of diesel, require new furnaces to be 95% efficient, require gov't to minimize paperwork and minimize travel to gov't offices, reform our Public Daycare system (Public Education), end airport expansions in dirty air zones like the SLC airport, then we may see some improvement.

    Spending millions while being intellectual lazy nice optics but a waste of money.

    Utah's air is nasty.

  • Den Den West Jordan, UT
    April 26, 2019 7:06 a.m.

    It's called the Green New Deal...it's going to save us all...we'll never drive again to a burger joint.