Morning links: BYU's Kalani Sitake, Matt Wells in SI article; Utah Lt. Gov. Cox pokes fun at James Harden

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  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    April 26, 2019 3:38 p.m.

    @Mr. Boris - Layton, UT

    "I will never understand why so many Ute fans comment on BYU articles...."

    -------------------

    But do you understand why so many BYU fans comment on Utah articles? Both happen with frequency.

    The fact is, you do really understand. You just like to say that. Seems like you feel it gives some form of upper hand maybe?

    Hot take......it's a rivalry. Both sides like to banter. And it seems there is much more passionate interest in beating Utah and mocking all things Utah, from the BYU fan base than there is currently going back the other way.

    While you may not respond to Utah articles, you certainly respond to Utes commenting on articles.

    1) There really isn't much difference.

    2) If you don't understand, then you don't understand the rivalry in general.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 25, 2019 1:49 p.m.

    "I will never understand why so many Ute fans comment on BYU articles. I don't comment on Ute articles . . ."

    Mr. BorIs & Natasha:

    Since the article mentions Bradley Anae, you are definitely commenting on a Ute article!

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    April 25, 2019 8:20 a.m.

    @BlueHusky - Saratoga Springs, UT

    I enjoy, and yet don't understand, the BYU fan hubris.

    Putting BYU in with UW is just funny.

    BYU may be better than they were last yr. But they also went 6-6 pre bowl game losing to NIU at home in Provo. I hope for your sake BYU is better. They've gone 20-19 over the last 3 seasons. And one of those seasons was a good season.

    Last 2 yrs, BYU has lost 15 games. Including games to ECU, UMass (@ home) NIU (@ home), etc.

    As an independent BYU has yet to beat a PAC12 team with a winning record. So, it's particularly funny when you say the PAC12 is so weak. Last yr., BYU posted a 1-3 record against the lowly PAC12.

    Can't wait for the rivalry game this yr. It won't be a trap game for Utah, and as such, I don't think it will be a close game. But we will let the teams do the talking for us on the field.

    Good luck.

  • BlueHusky Saratoga Springs, UT
    April 25, 2019 5:15 a.m.

    Poor AZUTE. Only joy in life is a BYU defeat. Sad.

    But cheer up. Utah will lose to the big boys in the mighty PAC12. After firing yet another OC, Whittingham will be fielding a new offense. BYU will be improved this year.

    But mighty Utah won't care ... they are in a P5 conference.

    As is WSU, OSU, ASU, UA, Cal and Colorado. Mighty powers, all. And BYU recently beat both UA and ASU. Sadly, the PAC12 was the bottom of the P5 conferences last year. Thankfully, the PAC12 plays BYU every year. And every game is nationally televised. How many Utah games are nationally televised? Certainly one at least. When they play BYU.

    Anyway, let's play the game and see what's what. Whittingham, a BYU grad, is good at beating BYU, and even beat Washington once. Good luck, Utes. Better luck, BYU. And UW doesn't need luck. Go Dawgs. Go Cougs.

  • SportsFan Provo, UT
    April 24, 2019 10:43 a.m.

    azute1

    1985 BYU's "epic" 16-23 loss to UTEP (1-10),

    wasn't nearly as costly and embarrassing, as

    2007 Utah's 0-27 shutout loss to UNLV (2-10), whose only other win was against 10-loss Utah State, the year before Utah's greatest season ever.

    That loss destroyed any momentum Utah might have had going into 2008 and was one of the many reasons why Utah was never a legitimate national championship contender.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    April 24, 2019 10:00 a.m.

    BlueCoug

    "Marc Wilson's shoulder injury prevented him from getting enough zip on the ball on three passes to the side line that ended in pick 6's."

    The game was tied 10-10 and BYU was driving for the go ahead TD, when Wilson's pass was intercepted at the UTEP goal line and returned 100 yards for TD to give the Miners a 10-17 lead.

    As LaVell said afterwards, BYU got impatient in the 2nd half, not taking the run that UTEP was giving them after cutting the UTEP lead to 16-20.

  • BlueCoug Provo, UT
    April 24, 2019 8:51 a.m.

    azute1

    "Did injuries play a role in BYU’s epic L against 1-10 Utep in ‘85, their sole W on the year?"

    Actually, injuries played a role in all three BYU losses in 1985.

    Marc Wilson's shoulder injury prevented him from getting enough zip on the ball on three passes to the side line that ended in pick 6's.

    BYU 1985 lost all three game by a TD or less,
    to #7 UCLA 24-27,
    to UTEP 16-23, and
    to #14 Ohio State 7-10,

    yet unlike Utah 2007, BYU still ended the season with 11+ wins, a win over #8 Air Force (the best team in Air Force history), another conference championship, and #16/#17 final rankings.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    April 24, 2019 8:36 a.m.

    azute1

    "8 straight & counting, 13 of 16 & 18 of 26——How does that grab you?"

    yawn

    Unfortunately for U, the Utes have never accomplished anything on a national scale...

    Consensus National Championships
    BYU 1 > Utah 0

    Heisman Trophies
    BYU 1 > Utah 0

    National Hall of Fame Players
    BYU 6 > Utah 0

    Best QB
    BYU 4 > Utah 0

    Best Passer
    BYU 7 > Utah 0

    Best RB
    BYU 1 > Utah 0

    Best Interior Lineman
    BYU 2 > Utah 0

    AP Top 25
    BYU 17 > Utah 8

    11+ Win Seasons
    BYU 11 > Utah 2

    WAC/MWC/P12 Championships
    BYU 23 > Utah 6

    All-Time AP Top 100
    BYU #34 > Utah #63

    Wins (and losses) versus Salt Lake HS, YMCA, Crescents, Diamond Butchers, 9th Cavalry, All Hallows, Carlisle Indian School, Ogden HS, Hawaii Nat'l Guard, Fort Douglas, 12th Infantry, and Oregon Short Line
    BYU 0 < Utah dozens

    Conference Champions with 7 or fewer season wins
    BYU 4 < Utah 15

    Conference Championships with 8+ season wins
    BYU 19 > Utah 9

    AP Top 25 Ranked Conference Champions
    BYU 13 > Utah 3

    Bowl Games
    BYU 36 > Utah 22

    Bowl Games versus Top 25 opponents
    BYU 20 > Utah 6

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    April 23, 2019 8:00 p.m.

    Did injuries play a role in byu-p’s epic L against 1-10 Utep in ‘85, their sole W on the year?

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    April 23, 2019 6:10 p.m.

    “Let's make no mistake. BYU will never be the little brother in the state of Utah.“

    Sure byu-p is & always has been, as evidenced during 61-34-4.....Always has been & always will be.

    8 straight & counting, 13 of 16 & 18 of 26——How does that grab you?

    Go Utes!

  • daver , 00
    April 23, 2019 1:40 p.m.

    Kind (and true) words from Mr. Korver.

  • chili con carne Austin, TX
    April 23, 2019 10:27 a.m.

    utemythology

    "Injuries in 2017 is not why BYU lost to 4-8 ECU and at home to 3-9 UMass."

    Injuries in 2007 are not why Utah was shut out 0-27 by UNLV (2-10).

  • Squirtle ,
    April 23, 2019 7:59 a.m.

    Funny. BYU fans realize this is just a pointless puff peace during a slow point in the football news cycle. Yet in rush the obsessed and insecure to stomp on it like the beginning of a wild fire.

    Rise and Shout!!

  • Mr. Boris Layton, UT
    April 23, 2019 6:48 a.m.

    Let's make no mistake. BYU will never be the little brother in the state of Utah.

    Utah is more talented with a better situation in the PAC 12. No doubt about that. But as far as the little brother goes it will always be the Utes. My little brothers were better than me at football but I'm still the big brother.

    Ute fans obsession with all things BYU just proves it. I will never understand why so many Ute fans comment on BYU articles. I don't comment on Ute articles because I don't read Ute articles because my thoughts on the Utes is complete indifference. I don't care enough about the Utes to read or comment and I'm a U of U alum.

    The college football in Michigan is the best comparison. Michigan St. has beat Michigan like 8 out of 10 times but when anybody thinks of football in Michigan it is the Wolverines, not the Spartans.

    The state of Utah is similar, Utah will always take a backseat to BYU regardless of talent, conference, or win streaks.

    And right now the best football team in the state of Utah is the Aggies and the Utes are too afraid to play them.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 23, 2019 6:06 a.m.

    Injuries in 2017 is not why BYU lost to 4-8 ECU and at home to 3-9 UMass.

  • KimmyP Grantsville, UT
    April 22, 2019 10:06 p.m.

    It's so cute to see the blue faithful predicting another win against their Big Brother, just like they have for the past 9 years. 😹

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    April 22, 2019 6:42 p.m.

    Cougars will win a lot of games. How long will it take to get W#1: One game! Likely to go into September 1-0.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    April 22, 2019 5:49 p.m.

    byu-p might reach .500 this year, but the real question is how long it takes them to notch W #1—1 month? Longer?

    As I’ve stated previously, their best shot @ an early W will be @ UT.

    Go Utes!

  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    April 22, 2019 4:09 p.m.

    I'd say 7+ wins is optimistic.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    April 22, 2019 9:49 a.m.

    It would be a significant accomplishment for BYU to finish with 8+ wins this season.