In our opinion: Mueller report looks more like a Rorschach test

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  • Eponymous Eggplant Salt Lake City, UT
    April 22, 2019 9:01 a.m.

    The DN continues to be tone deaf and doesn't even mention its systemic failures over the past two years. Thank God that other commenters in this thread display more journalistic integrity than this publication. The news media has been deeply dishonest, to their everlasting shame.

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    April 21, 2019 7:57 p.m.

    It is also a Rorschach test for Mueller showing the bias of he and his team of Democrats with clever, but deliberate omissions concerning vital background; but Mueller had to give the Democrats something for the millions of dollars spent. Mueller and his anti-Trump supporters have done more harm to our country than Russia, China, N. Korea and terrorists combined; they have divided our country and brought into disrepute the FBI and national intelligence agencies. The one good by-product has been to show, again, the true colors of some of our vaunted media.

  • Flip Highland, UT
    April 21, 2019 2:30 p.m.

    Now that the Mueller report is out, we know some things for certain:
    1) Russian meddling in our elections began during Obama's presidency.
    2) Obama knew his National Security Advisor Susan Rice told her staff to "stand down" when they wanted to strike back at Russians meddling.
    3) Obama allowed this because he was working on the nuclear arms deal with Iran and didn't want anything to get in the way of that "victory" for his administration.

    So let me get this straight: Obama knew about it and still allowed it? And perhaps worse than that, the media covered it up and/or downplayed it. Why is that?

    Those of us who voted for President Trump don't approve of everything he does or says, but we do appreciate that he will call out the hypocrisy and the downright evil intentions of those in elected office and those in the media who will do anything to get power. Because of him, we can see them for who they are.

    Again I ask: why would the media cover up something that B.O. allowed, and then try to impeach President Trump for it?

  • louie Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 21, 2019 12:21 p.m.

    "They have the constitutional responsibility for oversight. However, if they weaponize hearings for political purposes, that will distract the country from more crucial conversations."

    I have to chuckle at Greg. Not once did he bring up the Benghazi hearing as a political witch hunt. Here we have the President who, so many recognize, did things that was were wrong. Even Mueller implies that a congressional investigation is needed. However, Greg and his fellow republicans evidently feel that unless Trump is guilty of criminal acts, they are just fine with him.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    April 21, 2019 7:59 a.m.

    It a Rorschach test only for those who haven't actually read the report. For those who have, we call on the House and the Senate to remind themselves of their oath of office, put aside any loyalty to one individual or party and be loyal to the Constitution and the country, and remove him from office. He makes Clinton look like a choir boy.

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    April 21, 2019 7:27 a.m.

    So, Sessions recused himself; but no one else did, including Mueller and other DOJ people who had greater conflicts of interest than Sessions. More of the dishonesty Romney condemns, yet did not in these cases.

  • kfbob Salt Lake City, UT
    April 20, 2019 11:09 p.m.

    Ironic that Trump did not collude but the dems want him for obstructing something that didn’t occur. He should have just chilled and let the investigation occur. Unfortunately, the entire investigation was created by the DOJ and the FBI based on a fake Dossier paid for by the Clintons through the DNC, not to mention the spying that occurred on the Trump campaign. The dems need to stall this as long as possible to distract from the enevitable investigation into the Steele dossier and the FISA warrant fiasco. Someone In the DOJ or FBI is going to have to be a scapegoat.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    April 20, 2019 6:49 p.m.

    Like many current and historic societies have done, the United States will eventually elect leaders who will totally control our way of life and poverty will prevail.

    History repeats itself and tells us this will happen.

    The traditional American voter and culture is disappearing, and will be as the governments our current refugees are fleeing.--

  • casual observer Salt Lake City, UT
    April 20, 2019 7:53 a.m.

    Great analogy. People see in the Mueller report exactly what they want to see. If it were a report on Mr. Trump's ethical behavior it would be definitive, but it was an investigation into criminal behavior. On that count it was a failure. Let's change the subject and work on education, the environment, the economy and foreign affairs.

  • Golden Rules Okay, OK
    April 19, 2019 11:58 p.m.

    Well, "keeping communities free from the stain of discord" is kind of an empty goal. We could have avoided the civil war if no one criticized people for owning slaves.

    There are things that can be done to prevent discord, like telling the truth, following the law, and treating people with respect, but there are times when discord is exactly the right thing to happen.

  • David Centerville, UT
    April 19, 2019 11:13 p.m.

    I am impressed with Ben McAdams. If we had more centrists and moderates in Congress ;like McAdams I believe we would actually see our government making progress on difficult problems.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    April 19, 2019 10:35 p.m.

    "if House Democrats weaponize hearings for political purposes, that will distract the country from more crucial conversations — debt and the deficit, immigration and health care."

    Nice try. Republicans are already distracted, or more accurately, do not care about:
    the debt (rollover in your grave Mr. Reagan)
    immigration (makes a re-election sound bite, but no plan)
    nor about health care (how many years has it been an STILL no plan?)

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    April 19, 2019 9:40 p.m.

    Something happening upwards of 10 times is not isolated, it's not an oops. It's systematic.

  • Rick for Truth Provo, UT
    April 19, 2019 6:44 p.m.

    In your opinion, what, 2 years and nothing, too bad, no collusion, no obstruction, by the way Trump could have Fired Muller at any time for any reason, it’s not obstruction people. Must be hard for you to eat the nothing burger.

  • WJ_Coach West Jordan, UT
    April 19, 2019 5:17 p.m.

    “Russia may have failed in ultimately undermining the 2016 election, but it succeeded in planting seeds of discord.”

    May have failed?!?! The Russians have the president they wanted in the Oval Office! The discord is in that the current president, his administration, and news outlets still use terms like ‘may’ when we know that the Russians had their finger on the scale to get the man they wanted into the White House.

  • jparry Provo, UT
    April 19, 2019 5:04 p.m.

    Yes, prevent Russia from interfering again, but it seems like there's a connection between the Trump Administration's refusal to do anything meaningful about the Russian attacks on our system in the past 2 years, and the massive efforts by Pres. Trump himself to get his supporters to lie about their contacts with Russia and help him obstruct the invesigation, nicely detailed in the Mueller Report.

    Based on the past 2 years, why does the Deseret News have any confidence that the Trump Administration will do anything different in the next 2 years?

  • vern001 Castle Rock, CO
    April 19, 2019 4:56 p.m.

    A Rohrschach test is one that can be interpreted in different ways. But the Mueller report contains many facts. As the DN article points out, it is a fact that Russia tried to alter the election in Trump's favor. From the Mueller report we learn that it is a fact that people in the Trump campaign actively sought illegally obtained emails from the Clinton campaign. Another fact is that Trump tried over and over again to obstruct the investigation and was only saved by the fact that so many of his staff refused to do what he asked them too.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    April 19, 2019 4:44 p.m.

    “I am also appalled that, among other things, fellow citizens working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia — including information that had been illegally obtained; that none of them acted to inform American law enforcement; and that the campaign chairman was actively promoting Russian interests in Ukraine.”

    Senator Romney

  • Chessermesser West Valley City, UT
    April 19, 2019 3:12 p.m.

    Nothing to see here, folks, so let’s move along.

  • Rita B Herriman, UT
    April 19, 2019 3:10 p.m.

    @MOMS- If you are truly looking for "evidence that Russia compromised any aspect of American democracy," then you should, you know, read the Mueller report.

  • 1aggie Salt Lake City, UT
    April 19, 2019 2:12 p.m.

    “Mueller has been a hero to the left and potential villain to the right. Now those perceptions have flipped, which means he probably got it right.“

    It is true Mueller’s status has substantially improved among Republicans. However, his respected status among Democrats largely remains the same.

    It is curious to me that a potential POTUS can be made personally aware of a foreign power interfering in an election on our behalf, not report it to those in charge of national security, yet escape being charged as an accessory to a crime.

    And what are we doing to prevent interference again?

  • Golden Rules Okay, OK
    April 19, 2019 1:47 p.m.

    Leonidas, Are you working for Russia? Your conspiracy theories are not wanted here. If ideas like yours are not considered "highly speculative" then I don't know what is. Deep state shadow government answering to Obama? Just wow.

  • Golden Rules Okay, OK
    April 19, 2019 1:41 p.m.

    This article suggests that trust in government has eroded because of Russia.

    Who convinced Americans that Obama was an illigitimate president? Who talks openly about the corruption of government leaders? Who doubted the conclusions reached by the FBI? Who reassures Americans that our enemies are not as bad as we think, but that our own government is worse than we think.? Who talks constantly about the failure of American border security? Who suggested NATO has no usefulness?

    Not Russia.

  • Golden Rules Okay, OK
    April 19, 2019 1:25 p.m.

    This analogy would only work if a Rorschach test involved convincing other people to see certain things in the inkblot.

    Many people use their description of the report to manipulate thoughts and actions rather than to express their thoughts.

  • Daedalus, Stephen Arvada, CO
    April 19, 2019 12:42 p.m.

    @Craig Clark: "Pelosi fears embarking on an impeachment attempt that fails. She fears it would merely ralliy Trump supporters and strengthens his chances for reelection in 2020. ... There is more at stake here than political calculating if she fails to keep her own oath of office by ignoring the greater moral imperative to defend the Constitution ...."

    Yeah, I think we are on similar page.

    But the usual D.C. dynamic is knocked out of kilter for the coming days, as politicians on both sides of the aisle digest the substance of the report and look at the polling back in their states/districts. Pelosi's prior reluctance about starting impeachment, and relative silence in day or so may just be some prudence, and letting things shake out for a bit before committing one way or other, post-Mueller report. I would not be surprised if at least some -- sure, not many but some -- GOP Senators have been in discussions behind the scenes re: the viability of an impeachment vote.

    If Trump's approval dives below 35% and stays there, I think impeachment will proceed. But shame to see Pelosi playing the cynical rather than patriotic hand in the meantime.

  • 55AJS Richardson, TX
    April 19, 2019 12:35 p.m.

    This article is way too rational for most. Great Job !!! Fact is both parties stink of self service. I'm no great fan of Trump but obviously he managed to upset their little sandbox and both sides are quite unhappy. Very funny stuff

  • MOMS Salt Lake City, UT
    April 19, 2019 12:33 p.m.

    "Russia clearly meddled in the 2016 elections and compromised aspects of American democracy.
    “Judging by my Twitter feed, the #MuellerReport is nothing more than a 400-page Rorschach test.”
    The quip has truth to it."

    ________________________________
    Outrageous.

    First, there is absolutely no evidence that Russia compromised any aspect of American democracy. If the News has that evidence, it should provide it.

    More importantly, no legitimate news organization should minimize the Mueller report’s clear finding that there was no collusion, coordination, or conspiracy with Russia. After two years of baseless allegations, the report is not a Rorschach test, it is a final judgement on one of the most serious charges ever leveled against a President.

    Do better.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    April 19, 2019 12:26 p.m.

    T$$$,

    Care to cite that in the report?

    1 - dirty politics - what was the origin of this whole dossier? I agree with you, however your myopic view misses that Clinton and Obama seem to have done far worse and used deep state bad actors. So you are right but don't score a point.

    2 - trump also asked Obama to stop the meddling - I guess we'll see soon if he wants this to continue. Obama allowed this. By the way, where is this in the report.

    3 - that's a huge stretch. Contrast that to Adam schiff and others who outright lied and continue to do so.

    3.2 - conspiracy theory much?

    Pretty sure you didn't read the report. You cite as if you did to gain credibility but have arguments where at best you accuse others of lesser things than those you seem to support.

    Sorry, not compelling at all.

  • T-money$$$ Salt Lake City, UT
    April 19, 2019 12:13 p.m.

    The report shouldn't be a Rorschach at all for those who read through it. Frankly Mueller's work made things plain and clear (most of which reputable news outlets have been saying for a while) with a variety of corroborated evidence.

    1) Russia was working with bad actors to have Clinton loose and undermine the democratic process.

    2) The Trump campaign and Trump himself welcomed Russian interference - and at times even encouraged it on camera.

    3) Trump's press secretaries outright lied to the press about the investigation multiple times.

    3) Trump directed his inner-circle to stop the investigation, but most of his advisers didn't comply.

  • conservative lady Ramona, CA
    April 19, 2019 11:39 a.m.

    To the above -only in part did they sow the seeds of discord. This is not how Russia wins, it is from within, just as Nikita Kruschev said, 'little by little, without a shot they won't even notice they are socialist (communist).'
    By way of weaponizing first the IRS, then the DOJ, the FBI, the FISA court, CIA, NSA, etc. co-opting parties to try to take down a fair and legally elected President because they 1) don't like him 2) they are globalists and he isn't 3) they want open borders and he wants sovereignty 4) most of America agrees with him! The rest of the story is yet to be exposed to the public eye. Those who have worn blinders will be aghast at what 'they' have been doing to our rule of law and Constitution. Shameful so many commenting here are unaware of the true underlying investigation of the corruption. The IG report should shock you all to the core.

  • patrioticAMERICAN South Jordan, UT
    April 19, 2019 11:31 a.m.

    @Jane B: "We are witnessing nothing less than the moral collapse of the republican party."

    I couldn't agree w/you more Jane, & that includes our illustrious Utah delegation in US Congress who've been happy to ignore the corruption of Trump & his admin., to ignore the truth, & are even now attempting to sweep this report under the rug. They seem to think we're all too dumb to understand the obvious import of Muller's arguments & damming statements. I for one, am not.

    It also includes conservative newspapers & media outlets who seek to ignore or whitewash the lies, obfuscations, & immoral & unethical behavior that has been revealed in this report, regardless of whether it meets criminal behavior "beyond a shadow of a doubt".

    I agree w/commenters who mock the idea that attempts at obstruction don't matter, simply because people around Trump thwarted his efforts. Because, you know, DA's never charge anyone with "attempted murder".

    This is what our country has come to--where the only qualification that a leader can claim is that no "crime" can be "proved" against him.

    Trump refused to testify because his lawyers were afraid he would lie under oath, & he couldn't "recall" a lot.

  • Diligent Dave Logan, UT
    April 19, 2019 11:21 a.m.

    Mueller did an impeccable job? Give me a break! Just shy of two freakin' years to troll & trawl thru anything he could find, while last year Congress exonerated Trump on any collusion with Russia in the elections, and then Mueller and others say Trump attempted 'obstruction of justice'? What justice? If there was no collusion, there was no crime. If there was no crime, even if Trump had stopped the investigation (which he didn't), what 'justice' would be obstructed?

    The 'justice' that needs NOW to be pursued was the Spygate of the US Government colluding with Hillary's campaign & the Democratic Party to try to overturn the legitimate election of Trump; the lying to the FISA court on 'evidence' (the dossier Mr Steele, a foreigner, put together that was paid for by #NeverTrump Republicans, then Hillary & the DNC & the FBI which was all full of speculation & lies about Trump). This makes Watergate look timid.

    Now, the Justice Dept, FBI, DNC, Hillary's campaign, & their operatives for this attempted coup of Trump, as well as the dirt screen thrown up to distract attention away from Democrats. A Dem Congress further investigating Trump? C'mon, DN editors. are you part of the DNC too?

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    April 19, 2019 11:13 a.m.

    Daedalus, Stephen
    " . . . . Pelosi is purposefully demurring starting impeachment, using the lack of GOP support in the Senate as a convenient excuse for abdicating her sworn duty to put America's interest ahead of short-term political gain or potential downside risks. Not a good look for her or the Democrats, giving the overwhelming evidence of obstruction contained in the Mueller report."
    ____________________
    Pelosi fears embarking on an impeachment attempt that fails. She fears it would merely ralliy Trump supporters and strengthens his chances for reelection in 2020. Better to keep Trump embattled and hamper his agenda for the next year and a half.

    I understand that view. Pelosi is shrewd and tough but her stance on this is entirely political. There is more at stake here than political calculating if she fails to keep her own oath of office by ignoring the greater moral imperative to defend the Constitution against a President who is without morals, ethics, or regard for law.

  • Freiheit Salt Lake City, UT
    April 19, 2019 11:13 a.m.

    Impeachment at this point, without a large sized smoking gun would be useless and cause more harm than good. Without the possibility of a 2/3 vote in the Senate to remove, the action by the House would mean nothing. Did we learn nothing from the Republican mess with Clinton?

  • Daedalus, Stephen Arvada, CO
    April 19, 2019 10:28 a.m.

    @Craig Clark: "Nancy Pelosi’s tepid frame of mind on impeachment is a political roadblock that could prove to be catastrophic."

    Cynicism is driving Pelosi's tepidness.

    Reading through the Mueller report, especially Vol. II, makes clear that impeachment is wholly warranted, and what America needs.

    Not surprisingly, few if any Republican politicians have signed-on to that yet. But I think Pelosi is purposefully demurring starting impeachment, using the lack of GOP support in the Senate as a convenient excuse for abdicating her sworn duty to put America's interest ahead of short-term political gain or potential downside risks. Not a good look for her or the Democrats, giving the overwhelming evidence of obstruction contained in the Mueller report.

  • eldonp Parowan, UT
    April 19, 2019 10:10 a.m.

    Russia meddling in the election was designed to damage American democracy, help Donald Trump and hurt Hillary Clinton. Putin's hatred for Hillary is well known. His desire to expose weaknesses in America is as well. With Trump he succeeded beyond his wildest dreams.

    Trump has done much damage from within. His war on science, facts, the environment, traditions and norms, due governmental process--aided and abetted by a political party that's done almost nothing to curb him--shows how lucky Putin was.

    Part one of the Mueller report details the meddling, part two shows the results. There's nothing Rorschach about it.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    April 19, 2019 10:04 a.m.

    If this moment doesn’t bring Republicans and Democrats together in a common cause to root out the insidious culture of lawlessness Trump leads, then America is at a critical crossroads for the future. Nancy Pelosi’s tepid frame of mind on impeachment is a political roadblock that could prove to be catastrophic. President Mike Pence is the less than ideal solution that both sides may soon be forced to consider whether they like the idea or not.

  • Whale of Fortune Salt Lake City, UT
    April 19, 2019 9:27 a.m.

    "Mueller deserves recognition for performing impeccable work"
    Fusion GPS

    I can't wait until a real investigation exposes the details of this attempted coup. "Insurance policy," indeed.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    April 19, 2019 9:11 a.m.

    No collusion, no obstruction!'

    Oh wait. Mueller notes ten instances where Trump asked those under him to commit crimes by interfering with the investigation- those under him were just smart enough to say no so the crimes didn't happen- not from Trump's morals, but theirs. So 'no collusion, TEN obstruction'. There you go.

    So if you ask someone to commit a crime and they don't do it, then you did nothing wrong according to trump loyalists?

    So when somebody starts asking around for someone to eliminate their ex or wife or someone, and someone mentions it to police isn't that a crime, or because nobody actually did it, no harm no foul?

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    April 19, 2019 9:01 a.m.

    The Mueller report is no Rorschach test. It's conclusion is clear and alarming. Russia did meddle in the U.S. Presidential election with help from the inside and it was a 100% success with conspirators who have yet to be brought to justice. That's my take on the Mueller report.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    April 19, 2019 8:37 a.m.

    Russian meddling. Horror of horrors. How can such a thing be?

    In early September 2016, Obama told Putin to "cut it out." And that was that.

    Until December of 2016 when he was expelling diplomats from Washington.

    What changed in three months? Russian meddling became the reason Hillary lost. That's all.

    Russia has been meddling ever since there was a Russia. They tried to influence our elections during the Depression. You could even make a case that FDR was elected because Russia had motivated American union members (and wannabees) to pick FDR over Hoover.

    The Wobblies had to create a campaign that they were going to purge the unions of communists.

    And it's not just the Russians. Even the Brits try to meddle in our elections for their own purposes. And China. And Mexico. And every other country that has any resources.

    We do the same thing around the world. We give it a fancy name -Regime change - but it is really just trying to put our guy in power.

    In a way, the hubbub about meddling is hilarious.

  • Daedalus, Stephen Arvada, CO
    April 19, 2019 8:31 a.m.

    Headline: "Mueller report looks more like a Rorschach test"

    No, it looks more like a Hieronymus Bosch triptych.

    Yes, it is important for Americans to learn that Russian efforts to sway the 2016 election were as "sweeping and systematic" as Mueller report finds. And it is important that America take steps to prevent that from happening again.

    But that is an obvious point.

    If THAT is your only take-away from a such a tableau of malfeasance and the abberation, it goes to show how much of Trump's behavior has been normalized.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    April 19, 2019 8:27 a.m.

    The report totally exonerates me.

    Trump... not so much.

  • jeffc2000 Carmichael, CA
    April 19, 2019 8:08 a.m.

    I, for one, have been wading through two years of indictments for the 'big picture' that puts the collusion puzzle together. For example, why did George Papadopoulos (Trump campaign) confess before a judge about lying to the FBI concerning his July 2016 meeting with Joseph Mifsud, 'The Professor' with Kremlin ties, about the Russians hacking “dirt” on Hillary Clinton? The Mueller investigation was supposed to connect the dots between this puzzle piece, and the Trump Tower meeting piece, and Roger Stone's Wikileaks connection piece, etc., etc., etc. Is it really all just a big 'nothing burger'? I seriously doubt it. That's why I'm not ready to 'move on'. I'm still as confused and frustrated 'as all get out' about learning the truth.

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    April 19, 2019 8:00 a.m.

    Russia's purpose was to delegitimize the elected president. Who is aiding them?

  • oldbasketball Draper, UT
    April 19, 2019 7:55 a.m.

    I bet Putin is in a state of uncontrollable laughter. The Russians accomplished exactly what they set out to do. They have pitted Americans against Americans. And this was all done when Barack Obama was President.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    April 19, 2019 7:41 a.m.

    " For the rest of the country, keeping communities free from the stain of discord would be a proper outlet for their frustration."

    So I take it you mean the stain of contention is our main concern. On the contrary I assert our main concern should be the nature of Trump and his movement, which is a new instance of fascism, and as such poses a grave danger to constitutional government.

  • JaneB Wilsonville, OR
    April 19, 2019 7:36 a.m.

    We have a bigger problem than Russia's successful interference in our election: the unrestrained and saturating malfeasance in the White House. The Mueller report is stunning, (though not surprising, knowing Trump.)

    We are witnessing nothing less than the moral collapse of the republican party. The GOP voted for the impeachment of Bill Clinton for far less egregious conduct.

    Time for GOP congress to find their consciences, and turn the ship around. No more Trump.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    April 19, 2019 7:32 a.m.

    I have read only snippets of the report. I am going to read the whole thing.

    But at this juncture it appears clear Trump and his campaign were eager to get Russia's help in the election. Does this concern you? It appears it doesn't and that amazes me.

  • Daedalus, Stephen Arvada, CO
    April 19, 2019 7:27 a.m.

    Headline: "Mueller report looks more like a Rorschach test."

    About as much as the Mona Lisa does.

    The report now speaks for itself.

    Reading anything more or less into the report than the unethical and abberant behavior it describes suggests the reader has normalized and personally adopted Trump's values as their own.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    April 19, 2019 7:26 a.m.

    No collusion, no obstruction!'
    Oh wait. Mueller notes ten instances where Trump asked those under him to commit crimes by interfering with the investigation- those under him were just smart enough to say no so the crimes didn't happen- not from Trump's morals, but theirs. So 'no collusion, TEN obstruction'. There you go.

    Like the collusion, it wasn't from lack of trying, but his ineptitude.

    Not sure how people can defend him.

    This is like a person asked someone to murder another person and they said no, so no harm no fowl...this time.

    And this is what passes for a republican president?

    Barr refuses to answer whether he shared info with the White House before it's release.

    One thing the report shows is just how prolific a liar and how comfortable the white house is with lying to the people. You see Sarah repeat a lie over and over, and then when asked under oath she finally tells the truth, but only under threat of an actual penalty.

    The presidents answers or lack of answers was useless as he didn't recall over 36 times, this wasn't under pressure in front of an audience like Reagan or Clinton, but we all know it was just Rudy writing the responses.

  • Arkpears Bella Vista, AR
    April 19, 2019 6:37 a.m.

    It isn't solely Russia that is dividing this country, it is leftist ideology originating in our universities, media and Hollywood that has been dividing this country for the last 100 years and has now been stripped of it's it veneer for all informed to see in it's stark reality. It has taken Trump and his bold style of confrontation to the deep state to reveal that the main stream media is just a tool of the Democrat party.