I am rather sad that they are considering taking down the thick exterior walls .
When I go to temple square I think of a peaceful otherworldly place.I am
afraid that taking down the thick walls will cause distractions from the traffic
and other noises from the outside world.
Temple ordinances have always moved forward through revelation. They are
greatly different and improved in presentation since we were married in the
Salt Lake Temple 55 years ago, but the significant doctrine remains the same.
There is really no reason to preserve the live sessions, particularly not to
honor the Pioneers. We honor them by living our lives in a manner that makes
their sacrifices worthwhile. No offense to those who serve in the live sessions
(who are about my age), but they simply do not exemplify the robustness of the
persons they portray. To continue live sessions is akin to doing family history
with long sheets and pencils instead of using Family Search.org. The most
important thing with the newer presentations is the greater sense of peace and
spirituality without all the distractions. I recall some patrons coming to the
Anchorage Alaska Temple a few years ago who previously had only gone to the
Manti Temple, who proclaimed, "Now we understand!" I fully support the
Prophet and General Authorities, but hope that they will fully consider making
the Temple experience consistent throughout the world as a world-wide Church.
As to the outcome of the remodel, we'll just have to wait and see, unless
there will be a subsequent news conference on the details of the interior
finishing.Our complaints are so first world compared to our recent
past of so few temples and, for many, arduous journeys to visit a temple. Long
bus trips many over night to attend to temple service.I, personally,
like the live presentation when available but our local temple is a video
presentation that does provide linguistic and hearing impaired service. One aspect of our comments with the remodel and other Church related
policies and practices that are either continued or changed is that we appear to
have the misconception that the Church is some sort of popular democracy. I
suggest it isn't, but a kingdom and the stewards in charge have the
stewardship to operate the organization with the approval of the owner.
Processes may change the policies are much longer lasting.I
can't wait for the open house, including the expected public contrary
voices and signage.
I predict President Nelson will officiate at the newly renovated and restored
sacred edifice. In fact, I further predict he will be officiating at many more
ordinances when there are 3 digits in his age. I only hope I'll be able to
witness my predictions on this side of the veil.
I am delighted the Church is making the effort to update and secure the
structural soundness of the Salt Lake Temple for generations to come. My
great-grandfather spent a season hauling stone from Little Cottonwood Canyon. I
would guess that he and all others who labored and sacrificed to build these
pioneer temples are thrilled at the decisions being made to preserve these
temples as monuments that reminds us to lift our aspirations toward that which
is praiseworthy, beatufiful and of good report. Given that I recently reached
84, I wonder if I will be a mortal when this work is completed and the sacred
edifice is rededicated. It has now been 60 years and four months since my
sweetheart and I were married and sealed within its sacred precincts. My parents
and grandparents were married there. The Salt Lake Temple represents a tradition
of faith for many. All should rejoice that the leadership of the Church has
determined to do everything they can to protect that which has inspired so many
to try to be better people. May heaven bless them and all who labor to update
this magnificent fortress of faith, whose spires remind us from whence cometh
@tahoe Mormon"So when has nostalgia and preservation of
wholesome traditions become a sin or a crime?"Where did I say it
was a sin? Where did I say it was a crime?This is an OPINION page,
and I gave my OPINION. Just because it doesn't agree with your OPINION
doesn't mean I'm advocating a sin or a crime.Talk about a
desperate knee-jerk overreaction...
"Much of the famous wall around Temple Square will be torn down and replaced
with more of the iron gates..."Those historic wall provide a
good sound barrier to the traffic and commotion surrounding the square. I
imagine replacing them with iron bars will make it less quiet and peaceful.
I would not think that a building of such critical and vital importance could
afford to close for four long entire years.
@Brave New Robin, so when has nostalgia and preservation of wholesome traditions
become a sin or a crime? I guess even in the Church, spiritual conservatives
can't seek refuge from those infested and infected with destructive liberal
agendas. For example, trying to abolish the KJV because it is too archaic and
obsolete and is no longer hip, trendy, faddish and popular. Or, removing the Old
Testament from the Bible because it requires too much careful study to
understand the ancient although useful syntax. Or, as you suggest, completely
deleting the live sessions because it requires way too much out of you to move
rooms and have everything plopped in your lap like at some five-star restaurant.
The temple is a spiritual restaurant that requires faith, effort, work and
enough love for those on the other side that you can sacrifice taking a few
steps and trying to remain awake, alert, paying attention and getting something
out of your time there.
ThatLDSGuy: take Trax!! Several lines pass right by Temple Square.
RobynDriving to SLC? There's one in San Diego. Try it. Nastolgia?
Yes, I think they ought to go to the new look, Provo and the old Ogden. Why
bother with that old nostalgic granite?
@neece"Why do you want the live sessions to leave?"1. Non-English speakers cannot meaningfully participate because translation is
not available.2. I speak English and I can barely understand what's
being said half the time.3. All the up and down, back and forth, moving
from room to room is time consuming.4. I harbor no such desires to do
things "the old fashioned way" or how the pioneers did them. Nostalgia
is not something I care much about. For the same reason, I'm not pushing a
handcart to the temple - I'm driving my car.
Dogbreath,I like your attitude and thinking. What a sweet experience you
would have to doneate your time and work on such a sacred project.My
3rd great-grandfather was a foreman on the temple block during some of the many
years of construction work on the temple and I take some pride in that. I have no specialized construction skills, but a second cousin of mine
was a church employee and a painter for the temple for some twenty or so years.
He was a specialist whose job was to keep the murals looking good and repair any
kind of paint issue that arose. He loved the job.
@UtahBruin,The original article, the one I commented about, did mention
the St. George temple. But not the Logan temple, and that is why I mentioned the
Logan temple. The article has since been revised, so that it no longer mentions
the St. George temple, which makes my comment seem silly, but that isn't my
I hope the church will allow those of us who work in the construction industries
the opportunity to volunteer a portion of our God given time and talents on this
magnificent project, such as was done on the Nauvoo Temple rebuild. One of the
greatest experiences of my career. I learned what the term 'temple
quality' means while watching all of the talented craftsmen perform their
craft (work). So please, LDS church, call a missionary couple on a mission to
oversee "Volunteer Services" for those who are licensed and qualified.
@RGNot to be Johnny Rain Cloud here, call me crazy but I don't
think the Logan temple was mentioned because this is an article about the Salt
Lake Temple.@ThatLDSGuyThere is plenty of parking at the
conference center across the street, as well as at the shopping center on the
other side of the street.
What a tremendous marvelous fantastic undertaking!Having that in
mind, look for critics to moan and groan over those darn "Mormons"
spending money on quality of temple worship experience and preservation of
pioneer sacrifice and grandeur instead of giving every penny to the poor. Many
of them mistakely think it is the Church of the United Way instead of
Christ's restored institution founded to spiritually save mankind, while
also doing much to temporally help people as well. Saving people both ways is
another marvelous feat performed by the Saints.I would like to go
through one last time before it closes for the 4 years. (It's good Pres.
Oaks had Pres. Nelson clarify the 2029 date to 2019, that threw me for a
This is all great.How about adding some parking? Just saying.
Wow! MAJOR changes, but the finished product will be amazing!With
regard to "live vs. film" sessions, I wonder if they might actually
configure the temple to do both; it wouldn't be difficult to imagine
keeping the current "live" session rooms and also creating a number of
"film" ordinance rooms, making the S.L. Temple the first (and probably
only) "dual-method session" temple. It could work logistically, and
would allow patrons to choose which type of session to attend. I mean,
it's not like the current Church leadership has shied away from innovative
I hope the live sessions at SL and Manti are preserved. I'd love to see
them brought back as an option in St. George as well.There are
things that are easier to understand from the film. There are other things that
I gained primarily from the live session. I think both have their strengths, and
especially in pioneer temples built for the live sessions, I hope they are
preserved at least as an option part of the time.
@farmboy58 Not sure why my original post to you was denied as being "off
topic," but you could watch it live on KSL's website. No longer live by
now, of course, but there are still videos of it and other resources. Also check
Will we have the “Live Endowment” with 86 languages or perhaps an
I-Max Screen or Theater Screen like in the Joseph Smith Memorial Building? -Tim
& Gayle aka “Adam & Eve”
@neece Also, in watching the live broadcast, I am reminded that with the live
sessions, no foreign languages are available.
@neece and @Brave Sir RobinMy guess is that live sessions will be done
away with. I prefer not having a live session so as to have a consistent
interpretation. Less distractions that way, also. Learning of doctrine takes
precedence, for me, over preserving history for preserving history's sake.
The ordinance has changed over the years and quite a bit recently that has done
away with cultural and historical practices anyway.
I feel as do most likely all members of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day
Saints the Salt lake Temple is to us what the Notre Dame is to the Catholic
Religion. Both are beautiful, with amazing architecture especially of that time.
@Brave Sir Robin - Why do you want the live sessions to leave? To
me it keeps a tradition of early days when that was the only way to do them. I
personally would love to keep the live sessions, to preserve that pioneer early
How can we view the news conference?
Here's the question nobody is asking but might be the most important: Will
Salt Lake and Manti still be doing live sessions after the renovation? During
the renovation, it would be very easy to change the layout and wire them for
video.Personally I'd like to see live sessions go by the
And the Logan temple was completely gutted (so that you could stand on the
bottom floor and see the sky), and the interior re-made--a totally different
floor plan than the original, and rededicated in 1979. All of the pioneer
craftsmanship and murals were destroyed. Not sure why the article didn't
mention the 1979 renovation of the Logan temple. Its interior is nice now, but
nowhere near the level of current temples being built over the last 30 years or
so. During the 1970s, "functional" and not "exquisitely
beautiful" was the goal.