UK climate protesters block roads, glue themselves to train

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  • cthulhu_fhtagn Seattle, WA
    April 18, 2019 11:26 a.m.

    EmmanuelGoldstein1984 to Thid: "You offer a choice between two ridiculous extremes. Rhetorical theory has a term for such a fallacy -- a "false binary."

    Thid to Emmanuel: "Did you use fossil fuels to keep from freezing to death last winter and every winter before?"

    A little lighthearted humor to start your day:)

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    April 18, 2019 8:37 a.m.

    @Ralph:
    "Don't they realize that the Republican Party of the U.S. and the fossil fuel industry are the only ones preaching the truth about climate change? Doh!"

    If you put lots of CO2 into the air, which adsorbs in the infrared range, it makes sense that infrared radiation will not radiate back into outer space at night. Thus it is the greenhouse affect.

    But if you have evidence to the contrary please share it. Give us your reasoning. Give us something other than dogma.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    April 17, 2019 8:13 p.m.

    Mankind has benefited from fossil fuels and cows.

    What in the world has caused such an uproar?

  • cthulhu_fhtagn Seattle, WA
    April 17, 2019 6:25 p.m.

    @thid

    "Does your food magically appear without fossil fuels?"

    I wouldn't call it magic, per se, but I've been learning lately that certain foods literally come out of the ground if properly stimulated. Stockholm syndrome's a heck of a thing, though. I'll give you that.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    April 17, 2019 4:23 p.m.

    EmmanuelGoldstein1984: "You offer a choice between two ridiculous extremes. Rhetorical theory has a term for such a fallacy -- a "false binary."

    Did you use fossil fuels to keep from freezing to death last winter and every winter before? Does your food magically appear without fossil fuels? If you think its a 'false binary', try living without fossil fuels. Let us all know how you stayed alive without fossil fuels!

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    April 17, 2019 2:38 p.m.

    Re: "It's so inspiring to read about these average citizens taking peaceful action to make the world a better place . . . ."

    Inspiring is not the word real people would use.

    Gluing oneself to a public transit vehicle makes it kinda hard to figure out what the gripe really is, doesn't it? Are they suggesting people should just be immobile? Or that we should use more polluting forms of transport?

    The only clear position they seem to be taking is that we somehow owe them attention.

    This, like so many leftist "protests" really boils down to punishing the people that are powerless to stop them.

    Speaking their version of "truth" to powerlessness. How brave. How inspiring.

  • scrappy do DRAPER, UT
    April 17, 2019 2:19 p.m.

    glue yourself to a train.... that is brilliant, simply brilliant

    who are these people??

  • EmmanuelGoldstein1984 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 17, 2019 1:57 p.m.

    @Thid Barker:

    You offer a choice between two ridiculous extremes. Rhetorical theory has a term for such a fallacy -- a "false binary."

    In reality human society will likely find some middle ground that enables people around the world to cope with a rapidly warming planet, however unpleasant life might be at that point. At least that's my hope.

  • dogbreath Francis, UT
    April 17, 2019 1:50 p.m.

    So they glue themselves to the train. I'd just leave 'em glued until they shed off.

  • Ralph Salt Lake City, UT
    April 17, 2019 1:46 p.m.

    Doesn't the rest of the civilized world know that they should be watching Fox News and listening to the non-scientists of the Republican Party?

    The entire rest of the western world are listening to those silly scientists with their "science" and "thinking" and "learning" and "facts" and are all worried about climate change.

    Don't they realize that the Republican Party of the U.S. and the fossil fuel industry are the only ones preaching the truth about climate change? Doh!

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    April 17, 2019 10:08 a.m.

    @itsreasonable:
    "It's so inspiring to read about these average citizens taking peaceful action to make the world a better place for us all. " I think that what is inspiring is people walking and not using heat or electricity.

    It is true that they have not hit anyone, but their actions are not completely peaceful, they are stopping other people from what they want to do and what they are calling for is the government to take away people's rights.

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    April 17, 2019 10:04 a.m.

    I am not sure to love them or to hate them.

    Finally, somebody is actually laying out what is required to prevent global warming. You can't just guide economic policy with taxing this, carbon trades and efficient home appliances. I have been waiting 25 years for this.

    I fear that their ideas might be empty, in that they don't fully understand the implications of what they are proposing. The results may be that millions will die of famine and there will be wars (the Arab Spring was caused by the cyclical variations of oil supply-demand.)

    What is good is that we finally, talking about what is really required instead of Al Gore's platitudes.

  • Dal Pal Rexburg, ID
    April 17, 2019 10:04 a.m.

    Even if England were to go 100% CO2 free, there are still over 300 countries that would be living as they always have, the protest is a waste.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    April 17, 2019 9:43 a.m.

    Sad!

    So many folks brainwashed with this nonsense.

    Would give up their freedoms for government control.

    When has climate ever been constant?

  • itsreasonable Salt Lake City, UT
    April 17, 2019 9:35 a.m.

    It's so inspiring to read about these average citizens taking peaceful action to make the world a better place for us all. I wish more folks would join the cause for our future and our planets future, instead of defending and repeating the mistakes of the past. Go solar, go wind, go local, go green. The long term (not just 4 year political blips) economic opportunities exist in cleaning up our lifestyle, out planet and improving our consumption needs, not going further into the rabbit hole!

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    April 17, 2019 8:22 a.m.

    Every winter for hundreds of millions of people, the only thing keeping them from freezing to death is fossil fuels! How many of these "protestors" use fossil fuels to keep from freezing to death? How many eat food that was grown, processed and transported to their table with fossil fuels? What are they protesting, their own hypocrisy? What a supernal dilemma for these "demonstrators": death by freezing/stravation or death by global warming-in 12 years!