In our opinion: 2020 candidate financials are out. Before donating, ask whether it's worth it

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  • casual observer Salt Lake City, UT
    April 18, 2019 9:11 a.m.

    unrepentant progressive - Bozeman, MT.

    "... the current occupant of the White House is not interested in building up the country, but in tearing down the very fabric we have woven."

    Does that include leaders of left wing federal law enforcement agencies discussing a 25th Amendment coup and actively participating in trying to influence a presidential election? The very fabric we have woven was endangered by their actions. Now that the Russia investigation has turned out to be a nothing burger, what is their plan to weave the progressive agenda since they don't believe in the democratic election process?

  • RedShirtCalTech Pasedena, CA
    April 18, 2019 8:42 a.m.

    To "Happy Valley Heretic" it is true. The CBO found that in 2018 tax revenues were $76 billion more in revenues than the previous year, over the same time period. I know you don't like that fact, but that is what occurred. If you don't believe me, look at the budgetary tables that are readily available on the internet.

  • Freiheit Salt Lake City, UT
    April 18, 2019 6:46 a.m.

    Mike: "Senator Warren doesn't know that. She will be in Utah today to demand that 2,000,000 acres of Utah become "public lands", when the Consitution only allows the Federal Government to own 10 square miles of land except for those purposes cited in Article I, Section 8."

    Still beating that dead horse? To believe this statement only requires that one ignore the actual history of how the US acquired various territories and who controlled (owned) them. Surprise! It was the nasty federal government, not the states. A cursory reading of the land ordinances of 1785 and 1787 would make that abundantly clear. A check of Utah's enabling act and constitution would yield additional clues. You have to read beyond a single clause in the Constitution (wrongly interpreted) to understand the history of our land policies.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    April 17, 2019 4:51 p.m.

    @Happy Valley Heretic: "However since they support a person who hasn't divested their business and by all appearances make international decisions based on his ability to profit from certain countries, they really haven't an ideal to stand on."

    I suppose that since VP Biden didn't actually own businesses and it was just sweatheart deals like his son being hired for corporate executive spots for which he had no qualification, and then the company coincidentally getting massive government contracts, or approvals to do business with the Chinese while Biden was meeting with Chinese government officials, that is different? Or have you raised concerns about Biden's ethics that I missed?

    @unrepentant progressive: ".. the nation has evolved. We ended slavery, promoted equality for all, began a social safety net and helped make the world a little safer."

    Some things we did constitutionally with amendments. Those stand secure. Where the govt exercised unconstitutional power--social programs, governing via EO, legislating from the bench--your gains are at risk every election.

    Those wanting changes to our nation should honestly promote ConAmds. Ignoring the Constitution is a bad idea.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    April 17, 2019 4:43 p.m.

    Red said:" According to the CBO we had an INCREASE in tax revenues after the tax cut. "

    Really?
    In a hearing last week, Congressional Budget Office (CBO) Director Keith Hall presented the agency’s updated Budget and Economic Outlook. The report shows a darkening fiscal future, with trillion-dollar deficits and record debt levels expected within a decade.

    Republicans tried to use the hearing as an opportunity to tout their 2017 tax law, but they conveniently ignored the role it played in exacerbating our fiscal challenges.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, UT
    April 17, 2019 3:02 p.m.

    Bernie Sanders pledged to raise taxes steeply:

    "“We will raise taxes,” the Vermont Senator told a crowd at the CNN Democratic town hall this week. “Yes, we will.” Time, Jan 28. 2106

    "“It’s a very, very, very big tax increase for everyone except those at the bottom,” Roberton Williams, a fellow at the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, told TIME."

  • RedShirtCalTech Pasedena, CA
    April 17, 2019 11:47 a.m.

    To "Happy Valley Heretic " ok, name the regulations that have been revoked that actually put you in harms way.

    Also, tell us how Trump has added one cent to the deficit? According to the CBO we had an INCREASE in tax revenues after the tax cut. So, it wasn't the the tax cut that added to the deficit, that would have been the spending that Congress couldn't help but to pass.

    Nice try, but you are wrong.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    April 17, 2019 11:04 a.m.

    Gotta love how the far right wing attacks those who release their financial information including taxes.

    However since they support a person who hasn't divested their business and by all appearances make international decisions based on his ability to profit from certain countries, they really haven't an ideal to stand on.

    Mike said: Bernie Sanders has been telling us that "no person in America deserves to keep his own money"

    Please do share the actual quote of Bernie saying this, because he didn't, this is just more conservative dishonesty, really more gossip then a conversation.

    Red said: "He is also working to reduce the intrusion of government into our lives."
    Yep, by letting lobbyists run departments they formerly fought against to keep protections and safety for the American people off the table.

    They are there to increase profit for the few by risking lives and the environment for greed.

    Trump has put us further in debt to give more money to the wealthy, poor management skills, but most American knew that already, he talks like he's the best, but his his tree bares no fruit.

  • RedShirtCalTech Pasedena, CA
    April 17, 2019 10:09 a.m.

    To "unrepentant progressive" then your opinion is wrong. The current POTUS is trying to build up the country by allowing us to keep more of the money we earn. He is also working to reduce the intrusion of government into our lives. The biggest thing that he is currently working on is to do his constitutional duty and protect the citizens of the US from foreigners that would do us harm.

    But tell us about the Democrat candidates. Which one is trying to build up the US? Is it the one that is telling their followers that all their problems are the fault of the wealthy? Is it the one that is telling their followers that they will force others into acting the way that they would want them to act?

    We know you hate Republicans, but tell us, what do Democrats have to offer?

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, UT
    April 17, 2019 9:21 a.m.

    The only duty that every elected official owes this nation is fidelity to the Constitution, as per their oath of office. ALL of the social programs are illegal under the Constitution. That does not mean that money should not be raised for non-Constitutional programs, but it does mean that the Federal Government has no business in the social reform arena. All needs, wants and desires that are not enumerated in the Constitution automatically become duties of the States or of the People.

    Donald Trump knows that. He knows the difference between honoring an oath of office and opening our borders to illegal aliens - for any reason.

    Senator Warren doesn't know that. She will be in Utah today to demand that 2,000,000 acres of Utah become "public lands", when the Consitution only allows the Federal Government to own 10 square miles of land except for those purposes cited in Article I, Section 8.

    Bernie Sanders has been telling us that no person in America deserves to keep his own money, but his tax returns show that his lifestyle does not reflect what he tells others.

    Whatever money I donate will go to Trump. He keeps his promises within the Constitution.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    April 17, 2019 6:28 a.m.

    Hey DN, you ask good questions that many of your readers need to answer honestly to themselves.

    Amongst the most cogent is: "Is this candidate interested in building up or tearing down?".

    Since our founding, the nation has evolved. We ended slavery, promoted equality for all, began a social safety net and helped make the world a little safer. The complexion of the country evolved from white Britains and their enslaved servants to a multi-hued, multi-cultural society. The US has served as a beacon for those who seek a better live and a better environment for their children.

    IMHO, it is obvious (and this not even knowing who the Democrats nominee) that the current occupant of the White House is not interested in building up the country, but in tearing down the very fabric we have woven. A fabric that history shows to be successful for the average American, and a beacon to the world. And we can continue evolving to make it even better for us all. But only if we tell Trump that he's fired.