I like this quote from the article. “On the refugee side, we
have an entire system and framework in place to ensure their successful
integration," she said. "But on the asylum side, we lock these people up
in prisons and treat them like they are criminals. I think that’s
problematic morally — but it costs a lot of money to the taxpayer
too.”Can't we, for once, do what's both the moral
thing AND the fiscally responsible thing. When did the GOP leave these two
principles in the dust?
President Trump has made the suggestion of sending asylum seekers to Sanctuary
Cities. The immigrants need a place to go. These cities welcome immigrants.
A billion or two people with no electricity would love to come to America if
they could. (Part of the reason they have no electricity is environmental
opposition to fossil fuels--the World Bank won't lend them money for cheap
power.) We could do more than tear down the walls; we could convert the Navy
into an immigration transport service and turn the U.S. into another India. The
immigrants' quality of life would improve greatly while the rest of us
would see the quality of life go down rapidly. And the next time a
Hitler tries to take over the world, the U.S. would be in a poor position to
save the world. Lots of these immigrants come only to die in car
crashes; they never learned how to drive. They don't have health or auto
insurance. They fill the hospital waiting rooms waiting for free service. Most
of our charity goes to immigrants. That's all OK. It's the illegal
ones we're trying to keep out. And historically democrats and unions have
been against even legal immigration. It has been the wealthy who hired them at
low wages and made better profits, while the long time residents saw their
wages stagnate or go down. Everything has a price. --AGF
The farming communities would love the help. The farmers can't get enough
workers. The state of florida has sanctuary cities. The states will welcome the
refugees. They work and will help the economy. So lets see the people that
don't think there are over 500,000 people over staying their visas and
never go home are not a problem? These people want to work and there are towns
drying up because they don't have people. The European countries knew the
working age population was drying up and they took in all they could. If you say
75 out of 1 million refugges harmed people. Well we have our own home grown
terrorists shooting up churchs and concerts. I will risk my life on helping out
a scared family who just wants to live in peace and work. It is interesting to
see how even the LDS church has changed in order to maintain its membership. But i live in a part of the city full of immigrants and refugees. There are 26
different nationalities in the elementary school. . They have sponsors to help
teach them how things work. Germany is the best and accepted the most. Too bad
we can't do the same. Maybe next election
"SuzViews from Mesa says: "UK data shows that the country that has been
the most welcoming to immigrants & supported their efforts in ed. &
employment is also the most prosperous & economically stable country —
Germany!"Funny you should mention that. Ignoring any
(spuriously) implied cause and effect:In 2015 Germany admitted more
than a million Syrian refugees. Here's how Deutsche Welle spins it
(17Feb2016): "Citing the latest findings from Germany's Federal
Criminal Police Agency (BKA), on Wednesday the newspaper "Bild" reported
that between 2014 and 2015, the number of crimes committed by refugees increased
by 79 percent. Over the same period, however, the number of refugees in Germany
increased by 440 percent."Wonderful news--it seems Syrian
refugees were not as problematic as Iraqis.Sweden let in far more
refugees per native capita than Germany. From Wikipedia, sv. "Crime in
Sweden": "In May 2017 a survey by Dagens Nyheter showed that
of 100 suspects of murder and attempted murder using firearms, 90 had one parent
born abroad 75% were born in the 90s."What splendid examples!
Secure the border. Build the wall
Some folks feel it's compassionate to allow illegal immigration, yet would
have a baby aborted at the time of birth.Some folks feel it's
important for trade money flow by keeping borders open. What about stopping
deaths from drugs and other crimes? What's more important?Has
America lost its values?
Excellent! Thank you for bringing to light solutions that are both effective and
The comments about aid U.S. aid to Central America don’t reflect the
latest data:“Salvadoran numbers are way down. They used to be
roughly comparable to Honduras and Guatemalans, but U.S. humanitarian aid that
supports programs in El Salvador have contributed to improving public safety and
job prospects in the country, reducing the flow of migrants to the United
States. U.S. officials have praised the efforts of USAID as a model that should
be extended to the rest of the region, which is known as the Northern Triangle
[A snapshot of where migrants go after release into the United States, WP
article by Nick Miroff & Tim Meko].”UK data shows that the
country that has been the most welcoming to immigrants & supported their
efforts in ed. & employment is also the most prosperous & economically
stable country — Germany!One last fact for people fearing that
immigrants will destroy our country: Japan, China & some UK countries with
low birth & immigration rates are currently exploring or implementing
policies to increase the # of births &/or immigrants to support their
retiring populations.It’s time we examined U.S. policies too.
Thank you, DN for this insightful In Depth report.
San Antonio Express News shared a beautiful story trending on Twitter about the
music shared by Yo-Yo Ma on both sides of the border along with his inspiring
words:“A country is not a hotel. And it’s not
full,” said Ma before his performance Saturday morning. “In culture,
as you all know — as you did, and do, and will do - in culture, we build
bridges, not walls [Famed cellist uses music and bridges to unite cultures bySilvia Foster-Frau].”Last week, the headline news was re:
POTUS closing the border between Mexico & the U.S. Here’s another
quote from the article cited as to why that made no economic sense:“Over $200 billion in trade passes between these two border cities
annually. Last year, 37 percent of the $612 billion in exports and imports
between U.S. and Mexico came through Laredo’s three international
bridges.”Thanks DN for sharing expert’s views
illustrating the lack of fiscally conservative policies that are currently being
enacted during this humanitarian crisis, & for your editorial board’s
article stating it as such along with the need for FEMA to step in and help. How
we treat people during this crisis shows the 🌍 who we are or have become
the answer to illegal immigration? the opposite of what is being done
Build the wall...walls work and stop the bogus infiltration of illegals by
closing the loop holes in our immigration policy. These are things we can
easily do and due in a reasonable time span.
Protecting the border is not a difficult problem. Protect America like you
would a bank or a sports complex during a sporting event. How long will a bank
last with open locks and no police protection? The problem is too
many politicians want open borders with free entrance for all.
Addressing this issue in a meaningful way requires that political leaders and
their supporters stop the ridiculous rhetoric. Most conservatives are not
racist. Most liberals are not for open borders. Most asylum seekers are not
criminals. Most are seeking a safe place to live and raise their families. A
wall may be effective in some areas and not in others. We solve nothing by
shouting "Build the Wall" and we gain nothing by opposing all walls and
fences. We need longterm solutions because immigration issues are not going
away. We need more Border Patrol, more ICE and more DHS. We need to use the
latest technologies to secure the border. As the article suggests, we need to
expedite the court process. Hire temporary judges. Appeal to retired lawyers
and judges to step into the void. Trump is not going to scare people from
Central America into not seeking asylum. He is not going to scare those in
Sanctuary cities by threatening to let people loose. Doing this complicates the
issues as those seeking asylum won't stay in Sanctuary cities, they will go
to Idaho, Utah and Nebraska where their friends and relatives.
I opened this article in the hopes of reviewing expert opinions on solutions to
the crisis (one that started long before the Trump declaration). Sadly, what we
got as solutions was:1) Hire more judges2) Send more money to
what is often corrupt governments3) Treat all migrants as refugeesI really do sympathize with those who want to come to our country, but
these solutions do little to reduce the flow of illegal entry, or create a
sustainable solution, and will burden our already bloated social programs
budget. I question the expertise of those interviewed for this article. I
would have found it more credible if it at the very least included a border
agent and a judge who has dealt first hand with asylum claims.
"Historically, walls do not work..."Good point - what
civilization has ever had a wall? Oh wait, basically all of them.
Interesting suggestions. Adding judges would be a more concrete suggestion if
you mentioned how many more need to be added. Is is 10, 100, 1000, or some other
Your article conveniently misses the main issue driving migration from Mexico
and Central America: the US appetite for illegal drugs and the violent cartels
that market creates. If the US were to end the insane War on Drugs, the cartels
die the next day and the mass migration to avoid their violence ends as well.
Prohibition has never worked and it never will. It only creates criminals and
makes the organizations supplying them wealthy and powerful
To "Moderate": "Historically, walls do not work..."Where on earth does this assertion come from? The Great Wall of China? The
Berlin Wall? Israel's wall? The USSR/Finland wall? Prison walls? All
these peoples spent huge portions of their economy for nothing? For lack of
modern experience? Granted, situations are different for each wall,
and the Chinese wall served as a highway for defense as well, but walls always
work to some extent to suit whatever purpose they are built for--to make it
easier to keep people in or out.This outlandish claim serves only to
automatically discredit whoever makes it as one who thoughtlessly repeats what
other thoughtless people are saying. One should try harder to support
one's position--or consider changing it. --AGF
Walls do work; they are working, now, in other parts of the world. The
Organization of American States needs to convene representatives from all member
Countries to work out a resolution of troubled countries' problems.
Eliminating the current pressure-relief valve of people escaping to the US will
help. Military co-operation and intervention should be considered to help rid
countries of drug lords and gangs. Drug profits deposited in overseas banks
should be seized and invested in needy countries. Or open the borders completely
and let everybody into the US, but once inside, they can fend for themselves ?
Or divert funds from current us social programs to help the massive inflow of
refugees ? If the root problem is not solved within those troubled countries,
then there will always be trouble flowing outwards.
We have tried nation building to impose our way of life on other nations. That
doesnt work.We have been generous with our childrens money to
"help" other nations. That doesnt work.But we havent controlled
our borders and that is essential. Build a wall. That is the first step.
I am amazed at some comments suggesting that open borders will cure the problem.
Have those people any economic or civic sense at all?Our bloated and
generous welfare is the magnet that brings many of them. Others want to come to
bring us drugs, prostitution, human trafficing and other forms of lawlessness.
As soon as they cross the border their economic woes are at an end. But the
burden falls heavily upon the American taxpayer. If they were seeking peace or
asylum they could have stayed in Mexico but that is not the big prize.First of all, build a strong deterent to prevent unauthorized entry.
stand up for truth - Lehi, UT "They still ignore the correct fix to the
problem at its roots (stopping the leak by building a wall)"Let's grant your wish. You have a wall. Historically, walls do not
work, so Trump's shiny new wall doesn't stop the leak. Now what? That is a very important question. If you have a wall and
still have illegal immigration, what is the root cause? That is what we
I am tired of listening to liberal media, liberal respondents here spend all
their time criticizing Trump. They offer no real solutions but are really good
at affixing negative labels on Trump and those who follow him. Look, I
don't like some things about him and I did not vote for him. But honestly,
he has done more for the good of this country and protection of same since
Reagan.They still pretend there either is no crisis or else it was
caused by Trump.They still put out "factual" lies suggesting the
illegals cost American taxpayers nothing.They still ignore the correct fix
to the problem at its roots (stopping the leak by building a wall) and instead
suggest we just need more judges and shelters.And many of them
suggest they welcome the illegals with open arms. Do they really? Then send the
illegals to their sanctuary cities and states. Really.I love
immigrants... legal ones. Let them all stand in line and do the right thing.
That is what my ancestors and yours did, not this way.
Do we actually have a border crisis? Or do we just have a president who called
Mexicans drug traffickers and rapists and is being hysterical about the border
for political reasons?Our President is the King of hyperbole,
nothing he says can be taken seriously.
The prices for a bed per night figures given in this article are
ridiculous--like the proverbial $600 hammer.
Start by enforcing Rule of Law. The supreme law of the land is the
Constitution; The Supreme Court ruled that immigration regulation is exclusive
responsibility of the federal government. The Executive branch of govt.
(president) has responsibility of enforcing the law. It is unlawful
for a person or other entity to hire for employment in the US an alien.
Enforcing this law will go a long way towards solving the problem.Social welfare programs are to help US citizens. Enforcing this policy will
go a long way toward solving the problem.The process for legal
immigration into the US must begin at the embassy of the persons country of
origin. Illegal crossing of the border will cost time in prison until they have
worked enough to pay for fare back to their country of origin.Sanctuary cities are unconstitutional. State and local govt. are to abide the
supreme law of the land. State/local officials that do not obey the law should
be removed from office.If the President does his job of enforcing
the current law, pressure will be put on Congress to do their job in drafting
laws that address the problem. Those changes will only work if the law is
If we do not control our borders, no one will. California has repeatedly sued
Trump for one thing or another regarding this issue, including sanctuary cities
policies. Interestingly, in the past few weeks, two activists, wearing
sombreros, climbed over the Governor’s mansion wall to protest the
State’s opposition to the wall at the border. They were arrested and
charged for illegal entry. Their point was to highlight the State’s
hypocrisy. US citizens are charged for illegal entry to a taxpayers’
property but they will not charge foreigners for their illegal entry to the
country. It will not be a surprise when these sanctuary cities file
lawsuits to stop Trump from sending these immigrants to them. Mr
President, please let them host these folks. They came thousands of miles
Puukko Orem pragmatistferlife"reality would be served by
listening to Pelosi.""Listen to anybody but pelosi she is
mot of the problem. Her plan is to fight anything the Republicans want to do.
She has no solution, only resist President Trump."I think
you're speaking of McConnell and the GOP that tries to block any reasonable
ideas, simply because they don't have any plans, only obstruction. 10 years
worth so far.twinkleberry67"Haven't Nancy
Pelosi and Di Fi gone on ad nausium about how these people who are seeking
asylum being gifts of love from the world and should be given sanctuary, why not
give them what they want and send these people to their sanctuary cities? What?
They don't want these gifts of love? Make up your minds, ladies." Hate Speech!You do realize that Utah has several
"sanctuary" cities, thanks to the efforts of the LDS corp to get more
converts. Those are "gifts of love" if people convert.ConservativeCommonTater" suggest the Book of Revelations, and
the fact that God is planning on using a wall to protect New Jerusalem. That pretty much ends the discussion of walls working".When
you have nothing, resort to bible babble, try secular law !
The answer to trump's border crisis...Fire trump 2020.The answer to America's problems...In any enterprise, people
are hired to find solutions to enable the enterprise to be successful.In America, people run for office promising solutions.In America,
those same people spend endless hours after being elected groveling for $$$$ to
enable them to be re-elected.Solutions?Solutions will
have to wait until the next election.Sounds familiar?Fire trump 2020.
It would seem difficult to have it both ways, a leadership in countries that
people should be helped to flee but the same leadership should be assisted with
money. More likely, living in the US is simply an upgrade over opportunity in
most other places. A responsible policy would include determining a number of
refugees that can be accommodated considering other domestic needs followed by a
process that is fair to everyone that would like to immigrate to the US. Since
those applying greatly outnumber our ability to accommodate, the process needs
to anticipate numbers that will be denied. Those that do not follow the legal
process should not gain an advantage over those that do. Competing for
admission are others that work very hard to have something to offer countries
willing to take in immigrants.
I like the Idea of sending them to Liberal cities.
Look at the wages of tradesmen today.Look at worker's
benefits.Look at our homelessness.Look at our over
crowded schools.Look at our crime rate.In 2002 George W
Bush opened the doors to illegag immigration and flooded our country. The
objective was to force down the costs of labor.Now we have eleven million
illegal aliens (that we know of).Real Americans are underpaid and
underappreciated. We have got to stop opening our boarders.
Great well balanced article. What America needs right now is strong leadership
that can can bring people together for compromise. It’s obvious that
Trump can’t do that. The facts clearly show his inflammatory, dishonest
rhetoric is exacerbating the situation at the border.
Some good suggestions in this article. The problem is they all require
legislative action. Both parties have demonstrated for decades that they do not
want to solve the problem. Immigration is a convenient political hot potato, a
game of contention for politicians who could not care less about the real people
involved.If we want solutions over rhetoric and partisan
gamesmanship, we'll need to start voting out both Democrats and
Republicans. And that seems highly unlikely.
Apprehended not deported. They're all being captured then released. Truth
is more illegals were captured and deported under the Obama administration than
any other administrations. I used to take the hard line of
"illegals? then leave" but now I see this is a human issue and
shouldn't be a political hammer for any administration. I would venture
to say that 90 percent of the comments here are coming from people that had
ancestors that were given the chance at a better life here and are all
immigrants. It's a catch 22 here. "Well they need to get
legal." Ok and? How are they supposed to do that if they aren't
allowed the same chances that our ancestors were afforded? Legal citizens means
legal workers which in turn means taxpayers. The myth that illegals get
benefits is the most egregious lie that people are buying into because
that's what they've had drilled into their heads for years. Do your
research. Illegals cannot get benefits. Our tax dollars are not supporting
them.The sooner this country can go back to what it was founded on the
better we'll all be.
I bet that everyone that has commented lives with a fence around their home, and
lock the doors of their home and their car.If You are all so willing to
let anyone and everyone in to this country without knowing who they are, maybe
you should take down your fences and remove your locks. " Practice what you
The border crisis relates to a problem created by President Thomas Jefferson
which has plagued the United States court system since his Presidency. He
refused to deliver federal judicial appointments made by President John Adams,
causing a Supreme Court case, Marbury v. Madison. That case resulted in control
of the federal court system by the Republican-Democrat Party started by
Jefferson. That control enabled political party enforcement of slavery for the
next sixty years. If there are not enough judges to handle the situation, the
President of the United States has the Constitutional power to appoint enough
judges. But the situation created by Jefferson when he did not honor judicial
appointments made by Adams persists to this day. The reason why Trump does not
make enough appointments to handle the situation is because the judiciary is
seen by both parties as the source of power in government, and the thing over
which Civil Wars are fought. Trump should just go ahead and make the
appointments. The Democratic Party of today is not like the Democratic Party
that started the Civil War. Today they are a weak party which has no will or
ability to do what they did in 1860.
I support the president in his assessment there is a dire emergency at the
borderI don’t support his idea of a wall, nor do his military
advisers so let’s not go down that road.E verify should be
enforced and that means clearing a way for illegals to be deported immediately
and companies and individuals to be held fiscally accountable.American schools, hospitals, and prisons can be built and maintained in Mexico
for less than the cost of admitting asylum seekers into the country. As the
article mentions the problem is not short term so lookingdown the road
let’s put in place long term solutions. Having asylum seekers
apply and live in government housing in Mexico while awaiting hearings is less
costly than doing it here. The Mexican domiciles, prisons and schools would
also provide local jobs.The American prisons there could deal with
the over crowding our country is experiencing in the prison system and all
illegal prisoners could immediately be transferred.Stop playing the
blame game and look for actual ongoing solutions.
I find Trump at fault on many issues, at many levels, but no, he is not to blame
for the inflow of illegals along the southern border. How they are treated once
they arrive, certainly, but for the flow. I have long thought that
the US would save so much money by treating the actual disease and not the
symptom that happens 700 miles away. The gangs and violence in two or three
central American countries is what is driving the flow. Spend the money to help
strip the gangs of their power, to build infrastructure in those countries so
people can live safe productive lives. If people are safe and can
provide and live in their home countries they will stop coming to the US. That
will save the country billions of dollars. More judges, more fencing, more
guards, etc. is like treating a severed artery by putting a bandage on a
The biggest step to fix the problem is for the "Do Nothing" Congress to
open their eyes to illegal immigration, then provide real solutions to control
the border. They idea the Dems can't cooperate with Pres. Trump originates
with bad leadership of the House. This crisis will harm our country for years to
come. It will most like change the cultural landscape of the US the likes we
have never seen.
I appreciated this article. Unlike much of the political rhetoric, it really
does a good job of trying to look at the root causes of the immigration
challenges we face, as well as providing some meaningful thoughts on how to
address them.If we ever want to solve these problems, we will need
to look at them in terms of long-term solutions. There are some shorter-term
systemic issues that can be addressed (such as hiring more judges, which clearly
would benefit the current system). But unless we address the underlying supply
and demand factors, this will always be an issue. Building walls or expensive
detention practices don't do anything to address demand factors, and will
cost us a lot of money in both the short and long run. Putting aside politics
and addressing the root of the issue will save us money in the long run AND help
to solve the problems we face.
I love how the so called expert suggest that the US can tell counties receiving
foreign aid how to spend those funds. Most foreign aid is a joke and is never
seen by the average citizen in need. The answer is easy. Just stop providing
government aid, in any form, to those that are in the US illegally. We provide
free education, healthcare, housing, etc and then we wonder why people are lined
up at the boarder. What is even more amazing are the politicians and their
supporters that are fighting every attempt to stop a problem that will
ultimately be a social welfare disaster with fewer people paying taxes to
support more people. Most of the world would show up at the US boarder given a
chance and ask for refugee status while the open boarder crowd somehow believes
that there are never ending resources not only for our citizens in need but
anyone that makes it across the boarder willing to vote for those that give away
the most. Oh, next time please consult those people that work for the US
Boarder Patrol for their input and leave the, so called, academics out of the
Solutions are easier. Follow international law and make asylum seekers apply
for asylum in the first safe country they arrive. Central Americans crossing
would have to apply in Mexico for asylum in Mexico. The number of economic
migrants seeking asylum would plummet. 2. In addition, we could change our
laws to require asylum seekers to apply at our embassies instead of the
border.3. Take away the economic incentives, by not giving asylum seekers
work permits or government benefits.4. Limit the amount of asylum seekers
that the US will accept on an annual basis. We already limit how many can apply
at some border crossings. Most of the problems are a result of bad
laws and interpretation of those laws.
In 2008 or 2009 the democrats had the majority in the house, 60 votes in the
senate, and the president; and could have rewritten the immigration laws to
reflect their views, but they didn’t. There could be three reasons they
didn’t: they really aren’t serious about immigration reform; they
couldn’t get enough members of their party to pass a immigration reform;
or they like to use this as a club to hit the republicans with. I
believe all three are true. Instead of fixing the immigration problem they
chose to pass ACA. I feel fixing the problem at the border was more important.
If they don’t like the current laws, they only have
themselves to blame because they could have rewritten the laws in 2008 or 2009
without any input from the republicans.
The appeals court has overthrown the 9th circuit court judge's decision to
force Trump to bring those waiting for an asylum hearing into this country
instead of leaving them in Mexico. They ruled that leaving them in
Mexico is permissible. pragmatistferlife,The 1.3 in the
Democratic bills, would cover upkeep of the border fence that Schumer and Pelosi
voted for in 2006. The 1.6 billion would pay for upkeep and hire more judges to
go with the judges Clinton, Bush and Obama hired. We can't stop it with
judges. Although they will help, the more cases we clear, the more people come
None of the comments came from those who live near the border. Listen to those
who live near the borders of TX, AZ, NM and CA. Trump did not create this
problem you need to look deeper than blaming a recently elected president!
Illegal entry has exacerbated b/c of those who want a globalized economy.
Surface solutions will never solve the problem. Recognize that Pelosi Schumer
are in resistance mode as a political tactic. Trump is trying to instill LEGAL
immigration. I applaud that and know legal entry is God's plan, not
Satan's. Look at Agenda 21 signed back in 1992 for some of the causes of
the mess the world is in. It is against freedom - liberty and love of country,
all part of God's plan.
So the higher court says Trump can tell asylum seekers they have to remain in
Mexico until we can get to them. Reasonable.Trump wants to ship
"undocumented" people to Sanctuary Cities and States but it might be
illegal to ship them from Texas or other border states to sanctuary cities.But...here's a solution. California has declared itself to be a
Sanctuary State so... tell all the "undocumented" folks that the ports
of entry in Texas, NM and Arizona are closed but the ports all along the
California border are totally open. Come on in! You're welcome in
California. Everyone gets what they want.
"Listen to anybody but pelosi she is mot of the problem. Her plan is to
fight anything the Republicans want to do. She has no solution, only resist President Trump."Sorry, Puukko Orem - , 00 you are dead wrong.
Pelosi and the Democrats have put fort multiple pieces of legislation and each
one corresponds to the solutions of this article and the experts. Remember the
1.6, and the 1.3 billion plans this year all had substantial monies for asylum
courts and judges, plus plans for humane detention. Educate
Thanks for a balanced, well-researched article, Ms. Friedman!
Bad day for this article. The AP reports Mexican authorities said a group of
about 350 migrants broke the locks on a gate at the Guatemalan border Friday and
forced their way into southern Mexico to join a larger group of migrants trying
to make their way toward the United States.""A similar
confrontation occurred on the same border bridge between Mexico and Guatemala
last year.""The institute said the migrants were acting in a
"hostile" and "aggressive" way, and accused them of also
attacking local police in Metapa, a Mexican village that lies between the border
and the nearby city of Tapachula."Coveting with force?
All Dems could complain about when Obama was in was what obstructionists
Republicans were at every turn. This was true. Now Dems are doing the same thing
they hated. Disgusted with both parties. We need to get the $ out of our
elections and come up with a 3rd viable party which represents 90% of Americans
views and not the 5% on each side the Republicans and Dems represent.
Most of you do not understand that this flow of people northward is U.S.
chickens come home to roost, that is American corporate exploitation of these
countries has left them wrecks. Read "Cuba, Anatomy of a Revolution."
ConservativeCommonTaterI suggest the Book of Revelations, and the
fact that God is planning on using a wall to protect New Jerusalem. That pretty much ends the discussion of walls working.
"We’re pouring a lot of money into locking up migrants when we could
actually be spending a lot less to make sure they’re getting off on the
right foot to be successful here."But this isn't what Trump
supporters want. I'm sure they'd prefer it didn't cost so much,
but we don't hear them complaining about it, do we? What we hear is them
complaining about these people having any chance of being allowed to stay.
Trump supporters do not want these people here and many aren't averse to
using punitive measures to prevent it.If we want a sane, smart, and
humane approach to immigration - one that more closely reflects historical
American values - we have to push the Stephen Miller's of the world back to
the margins. The sooner the better. IMO, immigration is going to be a constant
issue for us into the foreseeable future, whether due to failing countries,
climate change, or a combination of both.
pragmatistferlife"reality would be served by listening to
Pelosi."Listen to anybody but pelosi she is mot of the problem.
Her plan is to fight anything the Republicans want to do. She has no solution,
only resist President Trump.
RRB - SLC, UT"Giving foreign aide to these countries has not
helped, as the governments have encouraged many to come here, and send money
home. They are taking a page out of Mexico's past. "and
your solution is.......?"Perhaps the threat of reduced foreign
aide many stop the people from leaving their own country, if their country
discourages it." That has worked so well in the past and
present, so we should keep doing it."Combined with stricter
asylum laws, (International law requires people to apply at the first border),
and a wall that works, it would be a start to fixing our immigration
laws."Other experts, besides yourself, have said a wall is a
waste of time and money. What expert knowledge do you have that it would
work?The simplest thing to do is something Trump and Republicans
won't do.... E-VERIFY.Too restrictive to business they say. So
they don't really want to do anything if businesses are making money. Arrest, fine and jail those that hire illegals and the problem of
illegal immigration gets greatly curtailed.But so many of you
believed Trump's promise that he would build a wall and Mexico would pay
The first thing to note is that the border really does have a crisis. President
Trump has been speaking truthfully. The Democrats have been willfully lying.
Secondly, a physical barrier such as a wall is an absolutely
essential part of any immigration control plan. The idea that "walls
don't work" is obviously preposterous.Thirdly, any plan
must be enforced. We already have immigration laws that would work if simply
enforced. Sanctuary cities must be immediately stopped, sanctioned, and the
leaders of those cities prosecuted for obstructing justice.It is
obvious which party support the solutions and which one is obstructing at every
Haven’t Nancy Pelosi and Di Fi gone on ad nausium about how these people
who are seeking asylum being “gifts of love” from the world and
should be given sanctuary, why not give them what they want and send these
people to their sanctuary cities? What? They don’t want these gifts of
love? Make up your minds, ladies.
By all means, send the huddled masses to sanctuary cities--e.g., Pelosi's
San Francisco (not my idea). --AGF
To the liberal mind solutions to social problems are nearly always the same:
give aid by taxing the “rich” to make the non-rich feel they are
solving the problem. This never works. The real solution is to hold the banana
republic corrupt leaders accountable for the prosperity (or lack of it) of their
countries and people. That is much to involved for a liberal policy. It
requires the best conservative thinking and policy, but works.
The razor and concertina wire sure make America look like a warm loving place to
be. Reminds me of Syria. They need to also wrap it around the Statue of Liberty
to hide the saying inscribed on its base.
The article makes some good points worth consideration. In addition, the US
should use its considerable influence on Mexico and other nations in South
America to take in the majority of those who want to leave their homes in
Central America. These people can obtain the freedom they desire from the
dangers they claim are present in their homelands much better there than by
making a long arduous trek to the US border. Their assimilation in these
countries would be much easier for them as well since a common language and many
cultural aspects of life would be familiar to them as opposed to the US where
they would face many difficult challenges.
The most important step in addressing issues with immigration is for the
President to start dealing with what is actually happenjng instead of trying to
instill fear through propaganda. Everything about his approach to immigrantion
has been disgraceful.
A Marshal Plan for Central America! Worked after WWII, it would work now.
Article didn't mention drug demand in US - the number one reason for the
instability, violence, and threats in these countries. People would not take on
thousand mile journeys if their lives and their children's lives were not
in mortal danger. These people should be given every chance for safety and peace
here. So no, don't make the asylum laws tougher.Border fence
will do nothing to stop those seeking asylum. They come at ports of entry and go
directly to border control to start the asylum process. Hiring more judges is
essential. And then letting these people find work. We have jobs ready and
One day newspapers are grandstanding about how out of control the national debt
is. The next day they’re saying how we should give more money to Central
America and pay to take in the worlds’ economic refugees?! Build the
wall, end bogus asylum, and enforce our immigration laws.
Read the many articles, with no political slant, that prove that Trump's
convoluted immigration "National Emergency" is the reason for tripling
the flow of illegals seeking asylum. Trump has no plans, he has feelings. Those
feelings change weekly, if not daily. There was no "crisis" until Trump
created one. Illegal immigration was at its lowest point in a decade, until
Trump took office.
It's nice to see CIS quoted for some solutions. In the future, it would be
nice to find sources to disagree with left-leaning immigration advocacy groups
as well. It isn't hard to weave into the story opposing points-of-view, was
it?As for the analysis, there are a few points that need
exploration.#1 - "Fleeing the violence," does NOT mean coming to
the USA. That's a non sequitur. It might be as simple as moving to another
neighborhood or town. Let's admit there is much opportunism in these
caravans.#2 - America has no mandate to be the rescue shelter for
the world. We are maxed out in courts and detention beds. Increasing our
capacity to receive more asylum-seekers is foolish when we can't even
process rape kits for our own people.The world is on the move. About
10% of the world's adults want to live elsewhere. America is their first
choice of destinations with 159 million people wanting to come here. That
pressure is likely to grow. We need firm policies and a will to enforce them to
turn back the onslaught. But our politicians are stuck on stupid,
and have been for decades now. You don't win elections by telling people
"No," but that is exactly what is called for.
So in summary, everything Trump is doing exacerbates the real problems, and
reality would be served by listening to Pelosi.
"Don't let a solution become worse than the original problem".
What would the majority of humans do if living in severe poverty, and intense
danger? Seek safer territory. We Americans would feel forced to do the same if
conditions pushed us to survival mode.Hence neighboring countries
must get their heads together to support change that prevents & addresses
the problem at the core. Hate and criminalization of those attempting to
survive must replaced with research into all factors that contribute to the
problem, and identification of ways to contribute to solutions while not merely
throwing funds in the air, or stopping all aide. It is a matter of
knowledge, compassion, creativity, and wisdom. We must do this now for
everyones' sake. “Everything...affects everything”
The suggestions in this article make no sense. 1. "There are
loopholes. So don't close them." That's like saying you
don't need to brush your teeth, just get more dentists. 2.
"They are fleeing violence in countries we've been giving aid to for
decades. So keep giving those countries aid." Huh? how does doing more of
the same change anything? 3. "Interdicting illegal immigrants
costs too much. So don't interdict them. Just open the borders and provide
job training and subsidies for housing for all who arrive." You think
it's expense now? Wait until you need to help with housing and everything
else for a sudden influx of 42 million immigrants (Gallup's estimate).
Here's an easier solution. 1. Put up a wall to make
the border easier and cheaper to manage. It's a force multiplier for the
agents.2. Get rid of the loopholes. 3. Ask each
community in the United States how many immigrants they're willing to take
in, teach English, train, and help with housing. Let the local governments pay
for it. Whatever that total number is, that's the number of immigrants we
let in each year. 4. Make it easier for migrants to work in the
United States by using e-verify.
Giving foreign aide to these countries has not helped, as the governments have
encouraged many to come here, and send money home. They are taking a page out of
Mexico's past. Perhaps the threat of reduced foreign aide many
stop the people from leaving their own country, if their country discourages it.
Combined with stricter asylum laws, (International law requires
people to apply at the first border), and a wall that works, it would be a start
to fixing our immigration laws.