Utah Latino leaders say Trump plan to release immigrants in sanctuary cities 'dehumanizing'

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  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    April 16, 2019 3:53 p.m.

    So it's OK to release these illegals into communities who don't want them but it's not OK to release these illegals into communities who profess that they do want them?

    Hypocrisy exposed.

    Immigrants welcome.

    "Come through the front door and not the back door"
    Dennis Miller

  • Utefan60 , 00
    April 14, 2019 10:11 a.m.

    The radical right and Trump have dehumanized immigrants, and legal asylum seekers with these dehumanizing statements.

    These are real people. God's children too, contrary to the radical rights slanders and dishonesties about these amazing people.

    The teachings of Jesus do not follow, or align with the slander against these people seeking legal asylum and a better life.

    There were people dehumanized by a previous political regime. History is showing us that Trump is following the same pattern of making good people "bad" in the eyes of his supporters. Sad!

    It is wrong and truly an evil that can not continue.

    The radical uninformed right is saying that Democrats are for open borders. They are not. But Trump has shown that his disregard for the laws of this land over and over.

  • Gavidaae Madison, IN
    April 13, 2019 6:10 p.m.

    This idea is BRILLIANT! Leaders of sanctuary cities have touted vociferously the virtues of illegal immigrants! Oh, the diversity, the strength, the beauty of having millions of uneducated people descend upon our country! Seems strange that all of a sudden, it's not such a happy thought, you know, now that some possible logistics would be concerned, ie, housing, education, health care. I'm so confused.

  • niedest , 00
    April 13, 2019 4:57 p.m.

    i dont see the dehuman of this. These cities want them, so let them go there.
    I mean the last president move people into areas, so whats the problem now. Oh wait, its because its Trump

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    April 13, 2019 3:44 p.m.

    It is not dehumanizing to place them where there are high numbers of liberals who want the doors for them to be wide open. People who mock trying to control our borders and secure our country. People who mock people following the law and coming in legally. People who mock the idea that Central America took its lesson from Mexico in wanting thousands of their citizens to come to the U.S. illegally and send some of that money back to their countries. They do to the tune of billions of dollars every year. These countries aren't stupid and either are the liberal immigration groups who want them all to come here. They have a strategy and plan.

  • GEAnthony RAMAH, NM
    April 13, 2019 1:21 p.m.

    @dski - Herriman UT

    Life, liberty, "and the pursuit of happiness in our Constitution". This is not in our Constitution, but is from "The Declaration of Independence". it is a beautiful sentiment but does not carry the weight of law. Still, Trump, I think, has a terrific idea. Let the sanctuary cities put their money where their hearts and mouths are.

  • M_Hawke Golden, CO
    April 13, 2019 12:29 p.m.

    @Joe Leaphorn - Scottsdale, AZ, you said,

    "If you want meaningful dialog, understand some basics of American law."

    And what is it about *illegal* immigration that you do not understand? What is it about the very essence of sanctuary cities (for which you apparently support) that you do not understand? They are violating federal law. Those are basics of American law and you illustrate so perfectly why those of your attitude and mentality can no longer hold a "meaningful dialog" in any way, shape or form.

  • TheRealDJT Sandy, UT
    April 13, 2019 12:20 p.m.

    If releasing illegals in San Francisco is "dehumanizing" and they don't want them, why do they think any other city wants them ?

    ....and why is it "dehumanizing" at all ? Most illegal immigrants actually report they are trying to get to LA or SF. We would be helping them!

  • Back Talk Federal Way, WA
    April 13, 2019 11:47 a.m.

    This action by President Trump was never intended to be the "solution" to illegal immigration. It was only to force liberal cities who protect the criminals from this group to share the burdon of them being here.

    The solution can only be accomplished by changing the law. It needs to be done for the good of the country. Otherwise, we will just continue to be driven wider apart as a country and more violence will continue to occur including raping of women and children on the way to the US as well as the unnecessary crimes illegal aliens commit while here.

  • Count Rushmore Salt Lake City, UT
    April 13, 2019 9:23 a.m.

    I appreciate the unintentional candor inherent in the admission that taking liberals at their word is dehumanizing.

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    April 13, 2019 9:18 a.m.

    I’m scratching my head on this one.

    Helping innocent undocumented people to settle in communities that largely accept them and help them and give them maximum legal protection under current US law, sounds very humane and compassionate.

    I know Trump is doing the right thing for the wrong reason. But are compassionate, caring Americans going to oppose this just because Trump proposed it? If something humane and compassionate is being done, should we really care about the motivation of the person doing it?

    Are we now so tribalistic that we lost the ability to distinguish between right and wrong, and good and bad?

  • Eponymous Eggplant Salt Lake City, UT
    April 13, 2019 9:11 a.m.

    Sanctuary cities: We love illegal aliens and we'll take care of them.
    Governemt: Ok, if you want them, we'll send them.
    Sanctuary cities: That's dehumanizing!

    Thank you, Mr. Romboy for further illustrating the unhinged utterances of the left.

  • zgomer Salt Lake City, UT
    April 13, 2019 8:21 a.m.

    I think what president Trump is doing is a great thing...for sanctuary cities, forcing them to put up with what they really want, so give it to them! Dehumanizing them, I don't agree with that, let the liberals deal with the law breakers they want so much.

  • pragmatistferlife Salt Lake City, UT
    April 13, 2019 8:01 a.m.

    "Please explain (again) why this brilliant move by our awesome President is so "repulsive".

    "Seems totally logical to many of us conservatives.."

    Logical..seriously?

    So we have an effective and efficient system for dealing with migrants, asylum seekers, and refugees, that is now way overloaded and backed up, and your solution is not to fix the overload problem, it's to circumvent the system and punish your political enemies using actual humans as your weapon..and that's logical?

    There's nothing "logical" about it. It's a feel good that'll show 'em thing and that's all.

    I'm guessing none of you who support this read the other article attached to this one where the experts (right and left) were asked what is the problem and what are solutions. Quick summary everything Trump is doing and you all cheer is exacerbating the problem and the solutions are in the Democratic proposals (solve the problems at the source, and fix the immigration court system).

  • momsaid Winchester, VA
    April 13, 2019 6:25 a.m.

    The quickest way to reveal whether someone is telling the truth/of good character, is to give them what they say they want/do what they say to do. Their reaction will tell all.

    The ones who decry the horrible conditions at the border are doing all they can to make it worse (Come one, come all!), but pitch a fit if THEY are called upon to take responsibility for the outcome.

  • robd Norway, 00
    April 13, 2019 5:16 a.m.

    The history of our Western Hemisphere is long and the interplay between north and south complex. The subjects of inheritance, migration and citizenship are intricate and multifaceted. I agree for the most part with Senator Romney. Both sides must work together to find a here-and-now strategy that protects American lives and sustains the law. At the same time, ethics wipers the need to provide at lest some degree of respect and humane care for those seeking a better life. How and how much are the questions. What we need is a meaningful path forward. May Heaven help us, as individuals and as a One Nation Under God, to find the best path to follow. As I see it, in both best and worst case scenario, a double portion of Christ-like empathy will go a heck of a long way to help our United States of America to reunite, survive and thrives.

  • jparry Provo, UT
    April 13, 2019 3:00 a.m.

    Mr. Gravy,

    The current "crisis" at the border concerns people seeking asylum. These people are entitled by US and international law to be admitted into the country and to have their requests for asylum adjudicated by the appropriate court of law. Asylum seekers aren't breaking our laws; they're asking us to observe our own laws. I believe that the count is up to 25 now--25 times federal judges have ruled against the Trump Administration's various attempts to circumvent these laws. And the judges who are ruling against the Administration include appointees by Republican presidents going back to Ronald Reagan.

  • Liberal Existing on Planet Zion Salt Lake City, UT
    April 13, 2019 1:59 a.m.

    How deplorable. Once again Hillary Clinton’s words are proven 100% accurate. Correct me if I’m mistaken, but shouldn’t the alt-right faction be extremely concerned about these immigrants voting liberal in future elections? This has been the talking point narrative on this forum regularly; so, from all of us that vote liberal, we owe ‘The Donald’ a tremendous thank you in my opinion, for all of the impending votes headed the Dems way during the next election cycle and beyond. Continue displaying brilliance by sending buses to these cities. You’re welcome.

  • dski Herriman, UT
    April 13, 2019 1:54 a.m.

    @jparry
    Pursuit of happiness in our Constitution is for the citizens of this country, United States of America, not the whole world.

    @Impartial7
    Rules of law begins at the border. Crossing our borders illegally means total disregard for our laws. If we have no decency for insisting that our laws be observed, so be it.

    How sad it is that we demonize our President for trying to enforce the laws of our country. He cannot cherrypick the laws he wants to enforce and used Executive Orders to ignore others he doesn’t like.

  • PCBOB Park City, UT
    April 13, 2019 12:33 a.m.

    It's a great idea. All we hear from Democrats is how much a "plus" illegal immigration is for America. We hear this constantly from mayors of sanctuary cities. If so, I would surely expect them to be grateful to have all these wonderful people and positive attributes they bring coming to their communities.

  • Sportsfan123 Herriman, UT
    April 13, 2019 12:23 a.m.

    Trump's own words, "california want's lots of people, well we have alot of them and we have an endless supply", "they say we accept them with open arm's, let's see if they accept them with open arm's".

    Dem's do not want to enforce our very own law's and refuse to deport illegal's and prosecute them for crimes committed.

    I agree with trump, the dem's refuse to change the law's that encourage so many to cross the border illegaly so if we can't send them back then might as well send them to the cities that claim to want them and protect them from the big bad government law's that they wrote.

    The democrat's and their propaganda machine are losing their minds over this, how disingenuous.

    Based on their own comment's "these people are people too and deserve to be protected", so protect them dems instead of sending them all of the country to conservative counties and cities and expect them to foot the bill.

    It's time to put their words into action, you'd think the democrat's would be happy about this.

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    April 12, 2019 11:49 p.m.

    Add the word 'sanctuary' to the Newspeak dictionary.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    April 12, 2019 10:23 p.m.

    @JaneB

    Please explain (again) why this brilliant move by our awesome President is so "repulsive".

    Seems totally logical to many of us conservatives who have wondered for so long why liberals oppose controlling who crosses our borders.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    April 12, 2019 10:15 p.m.

    @Impartial7

    Right on. And, apparently, the "rule of law" means very little or nothing to those who enter this country illegally and thus ignore and violate our laws.

    Nor to those who govern sanctuary cities and States.

    President Trump is trying to enforce our laws and trying to "encourage" those in control of sanctuary cities to do the same.

    Good thing someone in our government believes in the rule of law.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    April 12, 2019 10:09 p.m.

    @jparry

    Yes, "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" should be available to all who don't violate our laws to get into this country.

  • scrappy do DRAPER, UT
    April 12, 2019 9:05 p.m.

    I am certain that the great political leaders of these designated sanctuaries have well funded and thought out plans to nurture and care for these folks, enabling them to pursue the American dream.

    I mean if you are going to hold up the mantra of sanctuary city ... would you not be willing to put your money where your mouth is...

  • jparry Provo, UT
    April 12, 2019 8:23 p.m.

    I've been terribly mistaken. I thought I was a citizen of a country that "hold[s] these truths to be self-evident, that all men [and women] are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness."

  • Mackenzie Iwamoto Bronx, NY
    April 12, 2019 8:11 p.m.

    Husker2 - , 00
    April 12, 2019 2:07 p.m.

    "Sanctuary cities take great pride in their name and their progressive thinking until they are actually called upon to provide sanctuary."

    There's a lot of misunderstanding expressed here when people disparage sanctuary cities without even knowing what they are. They don't understand the concept and show ignorance in seeing them only as places that give people everything for free.

    Sanctuary cities are cities where city officials will not turn undocumented residents in to law enforcement for possible deportation because they come forward and identify themselves in reporting a crime again themselves or someone else in the community. Otherwise, these are law abiding people, living in the community, paying taxes, and contributing to society.

    Perhaps Donald Trump thinks that loading people up in box cars and transporting them to a community he identifies as not supportive of himself as a way to punish the people of that city, he needs to understand that the federal government would be required to provide resources to that community to support these people until they can become established just like any other refugee . . .

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  • Mackenzie Iwamoto Bronx, NY
    April 12, 2019 8:10 p.m.

    2 of 2 [continued]

    . . . refugee program sponsored by the federal government. Many of these cities would probably welcome these people as the develop into some of the best residents in the city and upon gaining citizenship, become the most loyal and American people in the nation.

    Not only do they become good citizens, they work harder than most native-born Americans doing much of the work their American counterparts will not do. They have a spirit of becoming successful to repay the privilege they have been granted to come to this country. Their children aspire to do well in school and become professionals to a greater degree than their American counterparts.

    I know this because it is the same situation of my great-grandparents who came to these shores and stayed notwithstanding the racism that faced them at that time. Also, it is the stories of most of my friends and acquaintances who came from immigrant families and did well. The American dream lived in them and lives in those seeking asylum and a desire to live and prosper.

    Most of those complaining about immigrants today may not understand the forces their forebears faced upon arrival. The just want to shut the door.

  • Carol F Gilbert, AZ
    April 12, 2019 7:12 p.m.

    Buses and trains are dehumanizing now? I am sorry to break it to Mr. Jaramillo, but buses and trains are the only mass transit available to border towns like Tijuana or Nogales. He can't expect plane travel for the immigrants, can he? Busloads of immigrants are arriving in Phoenix daily. I am pretty sure the immigrants are thrilled.

    The only bad idea here was the publication of the plan.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    April 12, 2019 6:44 p.m.

    Bring it on Mr President Trump. But you cannot leave these people on an island unable to provide for themselves once you drop them in the "Democratic sanctuary land". Let them be legally employed and be positive contributors to society. If you can't do that, then don't bother sending them anywhere.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    April 12, 2019 6:18 p.m.

    "Sanctuary cities? And these cities don't want these illegal immigrants in their sanctuaries? Trump calls their bluff and they don't like it. I hope Trump stays the course."

    Interestingly enough in so doing trump calls trumps' bluff. After all, even though his motives may be purely vindictive, which is often the case, they're also not well thought out, as is often the case. In this instance, he's announced to the world that America has a place for you if you seek asylum or enter illegally. So much for the trump national crisis, or the trump wall. Those are a hoax. If trump thinks you might be a burden on the services of a sanctuary city in America, welcome. You'll serve his purpose nicely.

    And stop with the 'Obama did this or that so trump can do same' argument. Obama has been vanquished, and the adults are now in the room, as we're told. Leadership isn't about what Obama did do. It's now about what trump is doing.
    And it's terrible, what trump is doing.

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    April 12, 2019 6:07 p.m.

    It's "dehumanizing" to release illegal immigrants into the cities that claim to want to offer them sanctuary?

    I realize that it can be fun to throw around big, scary words like "dehumanizing" to make others' ideas sound bad, but what's the logic or reasoning that supports the characterization?

  • dski Herriman, UT
    April 12, 2019 5:52 p.m.

    Sanctuary cities? And these cities don't want these illegal immigrants in their sanctuaries? Trump calls their bluff and they don't like it. I hope Trump stays the course.

  • utahute69 Laguna Niguel, CA
    April 12, 2019 5:37 p.m.

    Once again, President Trump is showing is great humanitarian side when the liberal left obstructs all attempts to stop the out of control illegal immigration. It is only appropriate that those cities and states that have declared themselves to be sanctuary cities be more willing to take on more illegals that have overwhelmed our ability to house them at the boarder. LA and San Francisco are ideal locations along with New York City. Clearly these bastions of human love and acceptance should be the first to feel the blessing of those people that are just looking for a better life.

  • Bob Tanner Price, UT
    April 12, 2019 5:12 p.m.

    I believe Trump is right and I hope he goes through with this plan.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    April 12, 2019 5:08 p.m.

    [email protected],
    "I suggest giving the sanctuary cities exactly what they are asking for, all the immigrants they want."
    ____________________
    Send them over. We'll make room. I'd rather see them taken in by my community than one in which they are unwelcome because they have a darker skin color and speak in broken English. Makes me think of my own immigrant grandparents.

  • oldbasketball Draper, UT
    April 12, 2019 5:06 p.m.

    The democrats would fight this idea with everything they have because what they say and what they really want are two different things. Yes, they lie to us everyday.

  • [email protected] Tooele, UT
    April 12, 2019 4:50 p.m.

    Anyone on the left claiming that Trump's idea here is using illegal immigrants as a political football is dehumanizing is living in their own bubble. The left has been using illegal immigrants to score political points for a generation. That insanity needs to stop. I suggest giving the sanctuary cities exactly what they are asking for, all the immigrants they want.

  • Watcher1 Sandy, UT
    April 12, 2019 4:36 p.m.

    "Latino leaders" sounds very racist. I thought we were all supposed to be treating one another as just fellow humans by now. I don't treat people differently due to their ethnicity, skin color, or whatever. Why do institutions and special interest groups cling to these divisive classifications?

  • JMOpinion Orem, UT
    April 12, 2019 4:35 p.m.

    Uh - aren't they all using migrants as political pawns? The only way to solve this issue is to close the borders, develop a better more humane system and then stick to it. The same laws that apply to Americans who wish to travel or live in other countries absolutely must apply to those who wish to come here.

  • GEAnthony RAMAH, NM
    April 12, 2019 4:20 p.m.

    According to leftist polls illegals commit less crimes than native Americans, and help the local economy more by their coming. How can it be dehumanizing? Why don't some of you libs invite some refugees to stay with your families to help assimilate them into the American culture. My wife and I had a Cambodian family of 7 live with us and our four kids for 6 months in 1981 until they could be on their own.. Still love my Cambodian family.

  • deseret pete Springville, UT
    April 12, 2019 4:11 p.m.

    I don't know what all the fuss is about -- They are releasing them every day some where in the United States because by law they can only hold them a certain amount of days. As far as i
    know they haven't been telling us where they were releasing them -- Now they want to tell us everyone is upset -- Am i missing something ?

  • The Meliorist CA, 00
    April 12, 2019 4:10 p.m.

    Trump’s presidency has already jumped the shark, but the reality is, I actually don’t believe the media this time. Sure Trump has said some really offensive things. But I actually find it hard to believe even he would propose something so inhuman and heartless.

    Please say it ain’t so.

  • kbee Syracuse, UT
    April 12, 2019 3:48 p.m.

    Let's send them to places that are safe sanctuaries where they can be safely and humanely processed and checked for the drug and terrorist elements. Then let them get ok'd by the laws of the land and spread out from there into society. Sanctuary cities are prepared to receive them initially ( thus the name). How could this be inhumane?

  • Mainly Me Werribee, 00
    April 12, 2019 3:39 p.m.

    "Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous immigration laws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities only."

    How poetic. You have liberal politicians who want to bring in every single illegal immigrant who appears at the border, but they don't want to step up and care for them in their cities. How hypocritical.

  • Daedalus, Stephen Arvada, CO
    April 12, 2019 3:32 p.m.

    Oh yeah. Before folks get all hot-and-bothered with the thrill of this 'plan' remember the person whose plan it is.

    Yeah, that guy.

    The guy who cannot competently express a simple coherent thought, much less a complicated policy.

    Someday -- apparently not today however -- you will learn this is the sort of agitating Trump does just prior to a new round of personal embarrassment. In this case, we have the Mueller report and the Trump tax returns coming down the tracks at full-speed.

    Feel free to chase the shiny foil ball that Trump casually tosses on the floor. The rest of America has better things to do.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    April 12, 2019 3:31 p.m.

    RiDal,
    "Why would an influx of immigrants be considered "punitive" ? That sounds racist."
    ____________________
    Not for one who sees them as a scourge he can threaten to unleash against a city or municipality that opposes this administration's immigration policy. By even suggesting such a thing, Trump demeans Hispanic immigrants to avoid seeing them as real human beings who deserve to be treated as such.

  • Arkpears Bella Vista, AR
    April 12, 2019 3:29 p.m.

    This is absolutely a genius plan and forces the left to own their insanity. I would like to see all open border proponents own their beliefs in a very personal way.

  • H8Red Centerville, UT
    April 12, 2019 3:27 p.m.

    Dehumanizing? Isn't that exactly what they want? I don't get it.

  • Daedalus, Stephen Arvada, CO
    April 12, 2019 3:26 p.m.

    Don't worry, Utah, along with Kansas and Wyoming will share the burden should Trump make good on his threat and sends a group of immigrants to Denver.

    Say a Trump caravan pulls up to Civic Center Park in downtown Denver and off-loads a few buses of immigrants.

    Local officials calmly cull the group and resettle the families and healthy able-bodied men.

    The rest -- presumably the most problematic -- they give 1-way tickets on buses heading to Salt Lake City, Cheyenne, and Kansas City, along with boxed lunches.

  • Joe Leaphorn Scottsdale, AZ
    April 12, 2019 3:19 p.m.

    Vanceone - Provo, UT
    April 12, 2019 2:37 p.m.

    "I mean, according to the left . . . "

    What do you know about the Left? Your comment reads like a screed from Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh, long on emotional anger and grievance and short on facts. Hyperbole is one thing, but you only get a yawn from progressives when you repeat wingnut media talking points.

    It appears that most Trump conservatives don't even know why the concept of sanctuary cities was created. They hear something they don't understand and automatically take a hostile position and begin to pick it apart. No wonder any legitimate, reasonable discussion is destined to failure from the get go. As any discerning person, try to understand the history and background before going off on a crazed rant that defies logic.

    If you want meaningful dialog, understand some basics of American law. What may be a fantasy repeated by Donald Trump as a means of dealing with a problem is illegal. Start from there. Either that or continue with the partisan blather and get nowhere. Problem solving does not begin with ignoring the problem.

  • Cougalum St. George, UT
    April 12, 2019 3:13 p.m.

    The opposition to this consideration is interesting. It is like a burglar breaking into your house and then demanding to have the right to pick which bedroom he will use, what he will have for dinner and insist on the control of the TV remote. He further wants his children to be educated in your living room and medically cared for in your kitchen. The Democrats are OK with letting the illegals choose where in the country they will live, they are OK with the illegals’ expectation of citizen paid education and health care and certainly insist on their right to refuse those who disagree a chance to voice their opposition. The clearly better solution was what Obama said years ago: “this is a crisis” and we need to complete the border barrier. If we don’t let them in then they don’t have to be disappointed by living in San Francisco or Chicago. As you can see from the comments, citizens don’t want to transfer illegals to San Francisco, the want them transported out of the country. They want to have control of their homes and the TV remote too. Any comparison of illegals location to San Francisco and the tragic relocation of citizens to Topaz is both misguided and outrageous. Shame

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    April 12, 2019 3:06 p.m.

    "You leftists really, really hate the idea of illegal immigrants in your own neighborhoods, don't you? Why is that? "

    I think it's a great idea, but you righties are only interested in the political game. If you are seriously going to do this, allow these people to legally work and be productive members of the community. Otherwise, all you are doing is creating a bigger problem.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    April 12, 2019 2:56 p.m.

    @Craig Clark:
    "....threatening to use Presidential power for punitive purpose..."

    Why would an influx of immigrants be considered "punitive" ? That sounds racist.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    April 12, 2019 2:53 p.m.

    How can this possibly be called "dehumanizing" ?
    Sanctuary cities apparently really do think that immigration laws don't need to be enforced, and that "diversity is their strength". They should be delighted to be getting more highly industrious and law-abiding people.

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    April 12, 2019 2:51 p.m.

    You leftists really, really hate the idea of illegal immigrants in your own neighborhoods, don't you? Why is that?

    And why do you insist that the rest of us have to have them?

    Besides, Trump isn't doing anything Obama didn't do: Obama "resettled" illegals primarily in areas to "punish" conservatives. You leftists all cheered wildly. Now you think it's a bad idea?

    Come on, how hypocritical can you be?

  • Immifriend Sandy, UT
    April 12, 2019 2:50 p.m.

    Sending them to cities that want to take care of them seems no wrong. Sending them there so it appears sanctuary cities are attracting them is what seems to be have been in the works. Spinning the facts, falsifying the record, duping the public, and making the sanctuary cities look bad -- those are things outside of honesty.
    -- John Jackson (aka Immifriend)

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    April 12, 2019 2:47 p.m.

    This sounds like a trial balloon released to see who he can make yell. But threatening to use Presidential power for punitive purposes just adds to the mounting evidence that the U.S. Presidency is currently in the hands of someone who lacks the mental and emotional maturity to run the country like a responsible leader is obligated to do.

  • Utefan4Lyf West Jordan, UT
    April 12, 2019 2:45 p.m.

    I think he should include those states who have created actual laws to protect people from immediate deportation. They are making it harder to remove people who are here illegally. Hint: If this happens, Utah will be a much more popular location.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    April 12, 2019 2:44 p.m.

    Some extremely shallow thinking going on today. Using people as political footballs, just one more low for the Trump side show and his enablers in the right nationalist party.

  • UPer Marquette, MI
    April 12, 2019 2:39 p.m.

    Has anyone noticed that next year is a census year? EVERYONE is counted, not just citizens, in redistributing the 435 seats in the House of Representatives.

    So what I don't understand is why anyone would object to a population boost, especially one that won't significantly affect the voter makeup, going into a census year. It seems like a massive boon to wherever the immigrants go if it actually gets carried out. Red and blue areas should be clamoring to take in immigrants/refugees over the next year, with the bonus that they'd look magnanimous.

  • ute alumni Salt Lake City, UT
    April 12, 2019 2:37 p.m.

    Brilliant idea. I’ll bet Trump can get conservatives to provide pick and delivery to the sanctuary cities. I’ll happily do so.

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    April 12, 2019 2:37 p.m.

    Ok, JaneB: Tell us how "repulsive" a plan this is. What's "Dehumanizing" about taking these illegal immigrants and letting them go in a place where the local politicians claim to love, love, love illegals and want to give them everything?

    I mean, according to the left Trump voters and Trump states are subhuman racists who slaver at the thought of hanging all illegal immigrants and probably eating them. Why aren't you leftists happy at the idea that you can save some poor Honduras gang member who only wants to steal and rape an American citizen (hey, they share the same goals as Chuck Schumer!) from evil white Trump supporters?

    Since liberals love, love, love high taxes, surely they wouldn't complain about their taxes being raised so these poor illegals can collect welfare, free everything, and then complain about how we Americans aren't giving them enough stuff.

  • There You Go Again St George, UT
    April 12, 2019 2:33 p.m.

    Mr. trump's plan?

    Mr. trump has no plan.

    Mr. trump gets up everyday and decides who is going to punish.

    The best part of the whole sordid affair is that he will not be potus forever.

    Eventually he will be just like the rest of us who somehow manage to live day after day without all of the protections he now hides behind.

    Someday he will have the same protection those people have who get loaded onto a bus and shipped off to somewhere which includes really no protection at all.

    Eventually the day will come when the punisher will become the punished.

    What goes around will eventually come around for all of us including Mr. trump

    Perfect.

  • Desert Dog Layton, UT
    April 12, 2019 2:30 p.m.

    Win, win. The refugees get what they want (protection) and the sanctuary cities get what they want (votes).

  • Puukko Orem , 00
    April 12, 2019 2:22 p.m.

    President Trump, you the man. This is a fantastic idea. These sanctuary city's should be all over this. Unless of course as usual they're just shooting their mouths off about being a sanctuary city. Trump 2020

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    April 12, 2019 2:20 p.m.

    I think it's a great idea, but understand that it needs to include the 8 sanctuary states, the numerous sanctuary counties, as well as the sanctuary cities. Send these people there and allow them to find a job and pay taxes. But we all know that this is just a cheap political threat.

  • Befuddled Salt Lake City, UT
    April 12, 2019 2:17 p.m.

    This is the perfect solution!

  • James SP TOOELE, UT
    April 12, 2019 2:09 p.m.

    So the left won't help with a solution at the southern border other than to simply open it to whomever and however many show up. The system and infrastructure is overwhelmed and still no solutions from the left. So the President offers to bring the lawbreakers to sanctuary cities and all the lefties call foul. Just incredible. If the left gets its way the U.S. will look more like Russia or China very soon. I wonder how the complicit media will act then.

  • JaneB Wilsonville, OR
    April 12, 2019 2:08 p.m.

    Now this: Trump told CBP Commissioner Kevin McAleenan that he would pardon him if he ever went to jail for following Trump's directive to block migrants from entering US, a violation of federal law.

    Um, there are no words ...

  • Utefan4Lyf West Jordan, UT
    April 12, 2019 2:08 p.m.

    @captainA: You see what you want to see. There have been numerous ideas from both sides (some even closely resembled compromise) but those ideas have all been shot down via veto. This is in no way a viable alternative. The amount of money spent shipping these individuals to San Francisco and New York would be astronomical. Not to mention the fact that the resources aren't there to support it. Perhaps we find viable ways to citizenship for those who meet specific criteria? That could help. You want progress on this, and so do I, but this is a ploy to rally the constituents, not a valid plan.

  • Husker2 , 00
    April 12, 2019 2:07 p.m.

    Sanctuary cities take great pride in their name and their progressive thinking until they are actually called upon to provide sanctuary.

  • JaneB Wilsonville, OR
    April 12, 2019 2:04 p.m.

    What's truly pathetic, is that Trump honestly has no idea how repulsive this is. No clue.

    Trump is unhinged. You want 4 more years of him destroying whatever is left of norms, laws, decency? He's filling the government with sycophants, toadies, and extremely unqualified people. The only qualification is to know they will him ask how high to jump. Plus, we know there is no bottom to Trump. None.

    Anyway, Trump literally has. no. concept. of. decency. He calls these migrants animals, and says it's an infestation.

    R's had two years to fix immigration, it's not a democrat problem.

  • Independent Henderson, NV
    April 12, 2019 2:02 p.m.

    Seems perfectly logical. Why wouldn’t sanctuary cities be into this?

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    April 12, 2019 1:59 p.m.

    Let's see, illegals coming here can't be deported due to radicle judges and sanctuary cities. This proposal makes PERFECT sense. What the left is concerned about is that it will not "expand" their political base. I mean how more democrat can a sanctuary city be. They want these illegals to flood the populated Blue States in order to change the voting electorate. Trump is brilliant and that infuriates liberals. I think it's a PERFECT solution. They want to be here, so let those who are screaming the loudest to have them her, have them.

  • Back Talk Federal Way, WA
    April 12, 2019 1:58 p.m.

    I dont understand why this proposed step of sending illegal aliens to some sanctuary cities would be illegal. These illegal aliens have to be released somewhere so they need to balance out the burden on different communities. Sanctuary cities support illegal aliens so that is a good place for them to go.

    I understand that cost might be issue but that is not a legal issue.

    Why would Democrats object to taking responsibility for the problems they are creating.

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    April 12, 2019 1:49 p.m.

    Amazing, isn't it? Democrats suddenly don't want these people in their cities, in their homes? Why not? They demand that we all accept being overrun by this horde and migration, but they don't want to participate?

    Besides, isn't it racist of them to not welcome all the unlimited hordes of migrants? Thats what they call everyone who ever says anything against importing unlimited millions of people... so I guess they are racist for not wanting them in their cities?

    In fact, isn't Trump doing these migrants a favor here by letting them go in a city that promises they can rob, steal, rape and murder without fear of punishment? Wouldn't these illegal immigrants love to be in a city where they're immune from the law?

    What's the downside here? Why are leftists upset by this idea? Sure, they will be victimized tremendously, but isn't that what they want for all the rest of us? Why aren't the left willing to put up and take one for America, considering they demand we let these people in? The left should take care of them, right? Surely you leftists wouldn't be hypocritical here?

  • t702 Las Vegas, NV
    April 12, 2019 1:40 p.m.

    What's wrong libs? Your sanctuary cities are intended to give cover to the illegals and Trump is helping you out by delivering more of the people you care most about, the illegals! This should be dream come true to the liberals but now you oppose receiving the very people you created the sanctuary cities for? Really? What a bunch of hypocrites!

  • captainA Mesa, AZ
    April 12, 2019 1:30 p.m.

    Trump keeps making proposals for different situations, and all I see from the "Liberals" is complaining and no help in finding solutions.
    The old saying roughly If you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem.
    That applies to the so-called Republicans who are really Democrat-lite.

  • Golden Rules Okay, OK
    April 12, 2019 1:25 p.m.

    Trump's solution to illegal immigration is to give them a ride to a US city?

  • Jim Chee Lahaina, HI
    April 12, 2019 1:21 p.m.

    This sounds a lot like hospitals who don't want to care for indigent patients putting them on a bus and transporting them to other cities and making it their problem. Personally, Donald Trump should move them to his resorts and let them set up refugee camps on the golf course fairways. Imagine the hundreds of tents set up to make play on the course more difficult, complementing the sand and water traps.

    Not only is this another Trump stupid idea, but like any attempt to restrict people in our very mobile society, I thought he was saying there was no room. Is this now a change in the official line changing on a moments notice? It is understandable that Trump doesn't like and wants to punish those who stand against him, but when Lou Dobbs presents fake popularity polls, it gives Trump the sense he can do anything he wants and lets his hallucinations run wild.

    Really, this is just more nonsense coming out of the White House. Ignore it. Maybe the reality of the various investigations is again rising up in his paranoid mind with the coming release to the public of the Mueller report and he sees that people may not be very satisfied with it. Also, there's always the tax returns.

  • Golden Rules Okay, OK
    April 12, 2019 1:18 p.m.

    I haven't read Trump's book, "The Art of the Deal", but it sure seems like his negotiation style is to aim for a "Lose-Lose" outcome.

  • MGoodwin Murray/USA, UT
    April 12, 2019 1:12 p.m.

    I have to respectfully disagree with the activist, there's nothing more dehumanizing about than what is already going on. “But you'll overwhelm the cities" and you don't think that's exactly what is going to happen to every other place we try to dump these people off at? The resources aren't there, and no amount of good intentions and compassion is going to materialize it out of thin air no matter how much you spread it out. If San Francisco doesn't deserve why does El Paso or some small community in the middle of the country?

    Give the Sanctuary Cities what they want, and preach to everyone about. From where I stand the activists either need deal with the reality of the problem they've made or stop grandstanding with other people's money.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    April 12, 2019 1:01 p.m.

    The rules of laws mean nothing to Trump. To say nothing about the rules of decency.

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    April 12, 2019 1:01 p.m.

    It is dehumanizing. Trump's attitudes toward people in general are dehumanizing. He objectifies women, belittles anyone who disagrees with him, uses the poor as political footballs, and cares nothing for the rule of law!

    Trump is a dehumanizing person!