Huffman, 12 other parents to plead guilty in college scheme

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  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    April 16, 2019 10:38 p.m.

    No Names Accepted:

    We get it, you want our colleges and universities to be homogeneous.

    Also, these people gave bribes in a form of a bogus charity and claimed it as a tax deduction. So yes, I'm ticked off as are a great number of people. The $500,000 bribe just didn't Lori Loughlin's daughter was also claimed as a tax deduction. So again, not all that victimless after all..

  • Craig Coleman Santaquin, UT
    April 9, 2019 10:21 a.m.

    How do you determine merit? If merit is based solely on standardized test scores and grade point average, colleges and universities will overlook a large number of very deserving people who have excelled in other areas of life that are far better indicators of future success. Colleges, universities and employers must all make decisions that require them to discriminate between people. The more diverse the information they have about applicants, the better able they are to make good decisions.

  • IJ Hyrum, Ut
    April 9, 2019 7:20 a.m.

    Applications of any kind should be devoid of sex, race, religion, or any other identifier that could be used to discriminate one way or the other. Merit alone should be the qualifying mark.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    April 8, 2019 8:24 p.m.

    @Mainly Me: "Does anyone really think those who paid bribes will do any jail time?"

    How much jail time is warranted?

    Put another way, who is the victim in these cases? Who exactly was hurt?

    And if you say, "honest kids who were denied a seat," then you've got to confront the much larger number of seats--and infinitely larger amount of scholarship money--diverted from honest kids with great grades and amazing test scores toward athletes and affirmative action admits.

    Near as I can tell, there about 100 kids nationwide invovled in this bribery scandal. Across 10 to 50 highly desirable schools, we're talking about 5 or 6 kids per school. And none of these kids were getting any scholarship money.

    Compare that to the 100 football players (not to mention basketball, gymnastics, and other sports) and maybe upwards of 500 affirmative action admits at each and every of these same schools. Many of these under-performing students also received scholarship money.

    I'm not going to condone bribery to get into some high brow, elite college. But neither does it rise to the level of serious crimes with identifiable victims. A slap on the wrist with accompanying public shame seems proper.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    April 8, 2019 8:19 p.m.

    @Impartial7: " for underprivileged kids ...."

    No need. Poor kids with stellar grades and good test scores already attend Harvard for free. Kids from families making up to $50,000 per year are getting at or near 100% tuition paid at Harvard and other ultra-elite schools via financial aid packages comprising federal pell grants and school provided scholarships.

    Rich kids have parents who can just write a check.

    It is the middle class--from say Utah's mean income of $60,000 up to say $200,000--who have a rough go of it. These folks pay significant taxes, are not eligible for any taxpayer assistance, but can't just cover tuition out of their budget. Most have leveraged themselves into expensive homes to live in "good" school districts.

    No one will condone what these rich parents did. But 100 kids involved nationwide pales compared to the 100 football players at almost every school in question or the 500 affirmative action admits, with all of the latter two groups got scholarships that were not available to middle class kids who needed them.

    Athletics and AA denies a lot more worthy kids than did these bribes. Hating the rich is not the same as loving the poor.

  • Mainly Me Werribee, 00
    April 8, 2019 3:19 p.m.

    Does anyone really think those who paid bribes will do any jail time?

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    April 8, 2019 1:58 p.m.

    Good. Now, fine them and use those fines for scholarships for underprivileged kids with stellar grades.