Larry Pressler: America is wounded, but we can still overcome

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  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    April 9, 2019 9:48 a.m.

    "Muellers Democrat filled team of investigators just reluctantly had to admit that NO COLLUSION OCCURRED. The Dems and their State Media supporters have been lieing for 2 years. "

    Back Talk - so if you are willing to say that the Mueller report is definitive that no illegal or immoral activity happened, even when produced by "democrats", can you then use the same precedent to accept the same truths when the Republican led investigations found the same with Hillary? Will you say that the chants of "lock her up" are equally wrong?

    I don't point this out to defend Hillary - but to illustrate how hypocritical and dishonest BOTH sides have become. There should be no chants fo "lock her up" because the same processes came to the same conclusions. You can't selectively choose to accept one, and dismiss the other. Neither side stands with clean hands.

    And its this level of pervasive dishonesty that corrupts America's integrity. Lying about the "other" side has become common and very profitable.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    April 9, 2019 9:41 a.m.

    "When some of our leading citizens immorally paid to gain admissions to universities for their children, they deprived other deserving and hardworking children of their chances. "

    When the leader of this nation has taken lying to become a mainstay of public policy - lying about such mundane things like saying his father was born in Germany all the while the entire world can see that he was born in NYC via his public birth certificate - when leaders will openly lie about unimportant things - how are we to have confidence what they say about important things is true.

    I am less worried about the college stuff. This has been done openly for decades. The years Trump's kids went to Penn State Trump donated to the school 1.4 Million dollars. It's not just the Trumps, but a lot of places with a lot of people. "Alumni donations" have for a long time allowed for "heritage" admissions not based on academic performance.

    I agree we have issues.... but the college admissions scandal is just stating what many have known was going on a long time. Parents benefited, schools benefited. It's just the tip of the pin, not the core of the problem.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    April 7, 2019 12:29 p.m.

    We are not going to recover with trump. Our democratic system is finished.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    April 7, 2019 8:18 a.m.

    Back Talk,

    So much to disagree about. However, your scary capitalized assumption (that collusion had not occured) was stated by Mr Trump's hired hand (Attorney General Barr, if you don't get it). Unless you have access to the full report, you don't know that there was not collusion, nor that any other illegal act was involved. AG Barr is a political extremist and a GOP loyalist. Trump would not have hired him unless he knew that Barr would cover his back.

    However, the accusation that the FBI and Justice department were weaponized by Democrats is the final straw that breaks the camel's back. The FBI and the Justice departments are headed by Trump political appointees. To say that Democrats have turned the agencies to nefarious purpose is beyond ludicrous. Such statements indicate a tenous hold on reality.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    April 6, 2019 11:37 p.m.

    The United States is the Divided States and if you are honest you have to admit there is nothing in common anymore between progressives and the rest of us. Nothing. We reject Socialism and everything Marxist. We reject the surrender of our bill of rights. We reject abortion. We reject group think. We reject BIG government.

    We cherish freedom and our bill of rights. We seek after small government and power to the states and private sector. We reject political correctness and see it for what it really is -- a group think series of lies. We want no part of progressivism. We will ALWAYS keep out guns! We want self reliance not government dependence.

    The left has just gone too far left and there is now no returning and no uniting. We crossed that line during the Obama years.

  • Light and Liberty St George, UT
    April 6, 2019 11:15 p.m.

    I guess most Non Trump supporters either don't know what socialism is or they support it, but don't have a clue as to what Socialism does to private property rights, individual rights, and free market. It is a conundrum at the least. I assume that when they talk about what they hate about Trump is that he tweets a lot, as if tweeting means anything to me or a host of Americans that could care less what he tweets. If anything, worrying about tweeting is like worrying about what movie your teenager is going to see: Dumbo or Batman. I rather enjoy most of his tweets because of the Hollywood blowback it receives. Whether it is a good governing styleI don't care. He has done mostly what I elected him for: conservative supreme court justice, tax reduction, a strike against the status quo of Republican/Democratic leadership that put 21 trillion dollars of the Great Society in our lap today, the best attempt yet to deal with the hypocrisy of both parties unable to control our borders, definitely not politically correct, which, I assume, most people on the left love. Isn't that refreshing? Trump 2020, and I can do that with a smile toward my Democratic friends.

  • Back Talk Federal Way, WA
    April 6, 2019 9:59 p.m.

    Unrepentant PRogressive;
    You complain about criticisms of a dishonest and biased media supporting Democrats as being unfair and lacking respect. Really? Certainly you can see that type of media truly is the "enemy of the people" because they are responsible for most of the divide in America. Not Trump. Trump just called them out on it more than other past Republicans.

    As for Democrats not being respected, look at the lies and outright corruption they and the media have been engaged in during Trumps administration. They just committed the most dangerous of all political attacks by weaponizing the FBI and Justice Dept to try and find an excuse to impeached. Muellers Democrat filled team of investigators just reluctantly had to admit that NO COLLUSION OCCURRED. The Dems and their State Media supporters have been lieing for 2 years. The obstruction of justice claims is more about obstructing Turmps agenda than anything real.

    Lastly, by supporting illegal immigration, Democrats hope to gain political power at all costs regardless of the damage it will do to American culture. Soon we will be like France.

    I dont like Trump personally but his policys are exactly what we need

  • The Real Maverick Spanish Fork, UT
    April 6, 2019 7:32 p.m.

    I must’ve missed Larry’s oped when the GOP couldn’t go one day without trashing President Obama for 8 years. Did he ever criticize republicans for not supporting president Obama? This call for mindless support of the President works both ways, Larry.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    April 6, 2019 6:31 p.m.

    I am most upset to see all the comments condemning Democrats and Journalists. Apparently Trump apologists seem to think we are unpatriotic, undemocratic, and unworthy of simple respect. You see this in the far right outliers in the GOP, most especially when the subject of equality and racial relations enter the debate. This element of the GOP sees almost anyone not WASP as worthy of full participation in American life.

    And yet, this element drives the agenda in the country today. The tail is wagging the dog. Most Americans believe in equality, decency and fairness. Americans aren't racist or bigoted. Many are religious as well, but do not adhere to the extreme fundamentalist interpretations of Christianity.

    We are better than all of this, and we deserve a government and a society that welcomes everyone, believes in equality in the eyes of the law and opportunity for everyone. It is not the left that eschews these values. Rather the extreme Right wing, whose voice seems the only one heard by our Conservative relations.

  • EmmanuelGoldstein1984 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 6, 2019 5:09 p.m.

    @ RiDal: Donald Trump is not only the lowest-rated but most destructive president in US history. He does more harm than good. Thus, any attempt to obstruct him SUPPORTS America, not “undermine” it!

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    April 6, 2019 3:58 p.m.

    So, Senator, tell us what you think will happen if Trump loses in 2020. Tell us what you think will happen if he wins. Ahead - I see only grave peril.

    Please tell us.

  • Mainly Me Werribee, 00
    April 6, 2019 3:01 p.m.

    This country is hopelessly divided and will never be whole again with the destructive radical ideologies of the left. They have nothing to push other than victimhood. The right isn't much better because they have lost their moral compass. Evil has become good and good evil.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    April 6, 2019 2:48 p.m.

    @ridal

    "So to constantly oppose Trump and failure-monger his efforts really is to oppose America, at some level."

    Good! When America is in the wrong, she needs to be opposed.

    Blind love and acceptance of everything happening in America just because it's America is dangerous and wrong.

    The best nations and civilizations are those that are aware of their own failings and seek to correct them.

  • JaneB Wilsonville, OR
    April 6, 2019 2:25 p.m.

    "As a nation, I think our wounds are coming from a loss of character." (Chicken or egg? Did Trump destroy our character, or did we choose him because we have no character?)

    The college scandal isn't even on the radar compared to the truly awful and despicable things our president does on a daily basis. How can we tell our children to not lie, when our president lies an average of 22 times per day? Just one example. He calls migrants animals. He ridicules dead war heroes. I mean, we could go on all day.....

  • jmason San Diego, CA
    April 6, 2019 2:20 p.m.

    I like Larry Pressler. I always read his columns. But still, I have a hard reconciling what he sometimes says about a "crisis of character" in America or a "wounded America" ... I have a hard time reconciling statements like this with his support of Trump. Trump is the poster boy for a "crisis of character" in American politics and society at large. Trump is the most morally bankrupt president in the history of the US. Yet Larry Pressler is usually a strong supporter of him.

    Oh, well. I guess we all embody contradictions.

  • Back Talk Federal Way, WA
    April 6, 2019 12:09 p.m.

    The Democrat State Media have falsely claimed the Democracy itself was at stake with Trump's presidency. Instead we find out that Democracy is at risk because of political foes in FBI and Justice Dept supported by a dishonest and biased State Media.

    I agree that our country is in crisis due to hate and extreme political partisanship on both sides. Compromise is not allowed anymore. Still, at the current time the fault belongs more to Democrats than Republicans . I am sure that if Dems win the next election they will quickly call for unity and compromise as if the problem had been solved.

    Until we get honesty, integrity, and work for the "good of the people" things will not change much.

  • EmmanuelGoldstein1984 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 6, 2019 11:11 a.m.

    This nation is definitely on a downward slide, but the college cheating scandal is only symptomatic of much broader and deeper causes such as an inequitable economic system and the massive amount of daily propaganda (on TV, radio, the internet) that supports it.

    Voting Trump out of office would be a good thing but hardly a cure-all. What we need more than anything is for more citizens to use more critical thinking. That requires BETTER PUBLIC EDUCATION.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    April 6, 2019 10:45 a.m.

    No party has done more yo destroy America than the Republican party.

    Today we have Trump/republicans who support a dictatorship and a poverty system that is to serve the wealthy.

    Job well done my conservative friends.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    April 6, 2019 10:37 a.m.

    Just a correction to the article:
    It is true that one side of the country is dedicated to tearing down President Trump.
    But Trump *is* our legally elected President. So to constantly oppose Trump and failure-monger his efforts really is to oppose America, at some level.
    By contrast, the side that is " for Trump", really is for America and for its legally-elected President, at some level.
    Allowing a legally elected leader to lead is not just being "for Trump" pesonally. It is being for America's success. Fortunately, it seems to be working. The relentless negativity-mongering reveals that some really would rather have Trump fail than have America win. But we are not tired if winning yet.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    April 6, 2019 9:27 a.m.

    Larry Pressler has become today's Chicken Little. "The sky is falling". Fear, doom and gloom is all the GOP has left.;
    "Democracy is faltering in the United States. Our moral fiber is falling apart. Our national news this week has been of wealthy, elite, famous people paying to cheat in college entrance exams."

    Yeah? No mention of all of Trump's scams from Trump University, Trump's "charity" or his adultery. Our country is not losing Democracy. If we can survive Trump and his sycophants, we can endure anything. Only a year and a half before we elect another Democrat to the White House and restore our country to greatness.