Megan McArdle: The Irish border is illogical — just like Brexit

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  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    April 10, 2019 1:20 p.m.

    Batfink - this goes a lot deeper than "liberals" and such normal talking points. The open border was part of the 1998 agreement that put an end to the battles between the IRA and URC that raged in Northern Ireland for three decades. This was about a whole lot more than " a few pointless violent demonstrations". I was in London in 1997 when one of those "pointless" demonstrations blew up in a corner cafe near Covent Garden. No one wants to go back to a hard border - but as mentioned a hard Brexit exit would have serious consequences. One would be a new hard border across Ireland.

    Redshirt - as mentioned, the UK does have a hard border on Ireland. In several of my trips to Scotland there have also been rumblings that Scotland would leave the UK. Scotland creates a huge portion of the UK tax burden because of North Sea oil. They complain of subsidizing Britain, and receive a low proportion of benefit back. It's unlikely to happen any time soon, but it is another factor being watched by the Scots and could drive the separatist momentum.

    Let's hope not.

  • SAS Sandy, UT
    April 9, 2019 8:34 p.m.


    Northern Ireland is part of the U.K. (The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.) It contains a land border with the Republic of Ireland.

    Perhaps you could look at a map.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    April 8, 2019 11:24 a.m.

    But England doesn't have a border shared by the EU right now. They are an island nation and are surrounded by water. How does this change anything for Ireland?

    What was done there before the EU?

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    April 8, 2019 9:03 a.m.

    I hear they have different accents.

  • Makid Salt Lake City, UT
    April 8, 2019 7:32 a.m.

    With any hard Brexit, this means that the Ireland/North Ireland border becomes a hard border again.

    This is what the E.U. and specifically Ireland have been trying to avoid. The same with the U.K. as it has quelled decades of violence.

    If there isn't an agreement with the E.U. on borders in effect, the hard borders are implemented. This will return to the days of the IRA and violence again in Ireland/North Ireland.

  • batfink Australia, 00
    April 7, 2019 4:18 p.m.

    One of those EU nations is going to vote against giving the UK a further delay, thus a hard Brexit ensues.

    Northern Ireland will continue to use the pound sterling whilst allowing EU visitors across the soft border with Ireland.
    The hard border with passport controls will be the Irish Sea which will serve as the border between the EU and the UK.

    The radical left will try to make some trouble but after a few pointless violent demonstrations, they will admit they have lost, just as they begrudgingly admit that Trump is the POTUS.