conservativeme1 - West Valley City, UTApril 3, 2019 11:52 a.m.Two
words for Congress: TERM LIMITS! They get too entrenched and become too
powerful. They really aren't doing the work of the people. It's time
to make this a reality!The problem is that Politicians will NOT vote
for term limits.... They have provided themselves with a great standard of
living. Even if they are voted out of office they still receive a pension and
excellent health care for life.
Two words for Congress: TERM LIMITS! They get too entrenched and become too
powerful. They really aren't doing the work of the people. It's time
to make this a reality!
What are we paying them for?Nothing. They are there to enrich themselves.
Every one of them.
Letter to my BOSS I have enjoyed working here these past
several years. You have paid me very well and given me benefits beyond belief.
Have 3-4 months off per year and a pension plan that will pay my salary till the
day I die and then pay my estate one year salary death bonus and then continue
to pay my spouse my salary with increases until she or he dies, and a health
plan that most people can only dream of having. Despite this, I plan to take the
next 12-18 months to find a new position. During this time, I will show up for
work when it is convenient for me. And in addition, I fully expect to draw my
full salary and all the other perks associated with my current job
Oh yes, if my search for this new job proves fruitless, I will be
coming back with no loss in pay or status. Before you say anything, remember
that you have no choice in this matter. I can, and I will do this.
Sincerely, Every Senator or
Congressman running for President in 2020 Are we stupid
for people like Alan, the author of this cheer leading tome, who has a very
short term memory, let me offer a correction." During the past
10 years or more, the Republicans have done absolutely nothing to earn their
salaries but trash our duly elected president, even 2 years after he left
office, honorably. I thought we paid them to protect us, the American people,
and make our lives better?"There, that's much more
Why are you complaining? Your party, the trump party, gave you fantastic,
inexpensive health care on day one as promised. And, you're right. We
paid all those millions for the Mueller report, and apparently you've found
no evidence of collusion or obstruction of justice. I've yet to
receive my copy. I've only gotten the book report from the attorney
general. I have not yet gotten my money's worth. What are we paying these
I have enjoyed working here these past several years. You have paid me very
well and given me benefits beyond belief. Have 3-4 months off per year and a
pension plan that will pay my salary till the day I die and then pay my estate
one year salary death bonus and then continue to pay my spouse my salary with
increases until she or he dies, and a health plan that most people can only
dream of having. Despite this, I plan to take the next 12-18 months to find a
new position. During this time, I will show up for work when it is convenient
for me. And in addition, I fully expect to draw my full salary and all the
other perks associated with my current job Oh yes, if my
search for this new job proves fruitless, I will be coming back with no loss in
pay or status. Before you say anything, remember that you have no choice in
this matter. I can, and I will do this. Sincerely, Every Senator or Congressman running for
President in 2020 Are we stupid or what?
To "ECR" you forgot Obama's first year, when he added $1.2 Trillion
to the deficit that was already $600 billion. Giving him a $1.8 Trillion deficit
his first year.Bush has the same record of deficit reduciton that
Obama did, reducing the deficit for half of his time as President.You also ignored all of the Presidents between FDR and 1957 that not only
reduced deficits but ran surpluses and nearly eliminated the Federal Debt.No, you really can't give a President a pass on their first year
because, as in the case of Obama, there can always be new spending measures
introduced. If no additional spending is added then you can attribute the
deficit to the previous POTUS.
Redshirt - some of what you say is correct and some of what I said is incorrect.
But most of what you said is incorrect and most of what I said is correct.
According to government statistics we find the followingIn the
campaign of 1980, Ronald Reagan said Jimmy Carter's last deficit ($78B) was
'obscene. The from 1981 to 1989 he ran deficits of $127.98B, $207.8B,
$185B, $212B, $221B, $155.18B and $153B, $153B.George H. W. Bush
took office and ran deficits of $221B, $269B, $290B, and $255B.Bill
Clinton came into office and his budgets showed deficits of $203B, $164B, $107B,
$22B, -$69B, -$126B, -$236B and -$128.23B.George Bush ran deficits
of $158B, $378B, $413B, $318B, $248B, $160B, $458B and $1412BBarack
Obama's deficits were $1294B, $1299B, $1076B, $679B, $484B, $441B, $584B,
$667B.Trump's first year deficit was $779B.It's important to note that the first year budget from any administration
belongs to the previous administration because the budget was already set by
Congress.Obama had (3) years when the deficit raised (my mistake) -
his second year and the last two years. But there is a pattern shown for who is
trying to be responsible. about the budget.
"Twelve Republican senators (including the two from Utah) failed to support
the president in his bid to protect us."Alan seems to mistakenly
believe that we're in some kind of fascist govt where elected leader's
duty is to bow to & protect the bully dictator, not to protect the
Constitution they've sworn to uphold & the citizens they were elected
to represent. He seems to forget that Congress is a *co-equal*
branch of gov't to Executive branch. Senators aren't supposed to just
give the pres. carte blanche to do whatever he feels like. It's their
constitutional duty to be a ck on authoritarian men like Trump. Just because GOP
abysmally failed in that duty the last 2 yrs, doesn't mean we should expect
them to abandon it forever. (McConnell certainly didn't during Obama's
tenure--in fact, he went the opp. extreme).Repubs in general seem to
have abandoned the Constitution (except for 2nd Amendment) now in favor of
treating Trump like he's a king, complete with the Royal Family--& one
like the Japanese emperors of old that were considered like Gods & could do
no wrong.Why are Repubs so afraid of these investigations, esp after
Mueller report? Trump has nothing to hide, right?
I have no words for letters like this one. Voters like this writer
are why we have such an unprepared 'man' in the white house.
To "Crusader" what did Trump do to undermine the Constitution? He
followed the Emergency Powers Act, and has complied with the law.Just because you don't like the method does not mean it was illegal.If you want to prevent this from happening again, the law must be
changed.To "unrepentant progressive" but it isn't an
imaginary crisis on the border. CNN, MSNBC, and most major news agencies have
declared there to be a crisis on the border over the past few years. Why is it
that Trump responding to what the major news agencies declared to be a crisis
suddenly isn't a crisis?To "ECR " but Obama also
created the largest deficit in US history. He made the big deficit then cut it.
That isn't exactly noble. But Bush lowered the deficit from 2004 through
2007. Reagan lowered it in 1984 and again in 1987. So to say that only Obama and
Clinton lowered the Deficit is disingenuous. In fact every president after FDR
through 1957 lowered the deficit and actually decreased the debt.
Helen Kimball said, "My biggest concern is the deficit. "It
is worth noting that since 1980, only two president's have reduced the
annual deficit each year they were in office - Clinton and Obama, both
Democrats. So your statement "Neither party wants to tackle the issue"
is not totally true.You will remember that we actually had surplus
budget in the last two years of the Clinton Administration and the first thing
that G.W. Bush did was pass a massive tax cut for the wealthy which reversed
that course of action. And while the national debt continued to increase during
the Obama years, the deficit continued to get smaller. And then of in a March
31, 2016, interview with the Washington Post, Donald Trump promised to eliminate
the United States' $19 trillion in debt in eight years. So far that's
not working out.
My biggest concern is the deficit. Neither party wants to tackle the
issue. I would have hoped the Republicans, who pride themselves on
being "fiscally responsible" would want to approach the issue.It probably doesn't help that the leadership in both parties and the
President are all fairly old people who will not have to face the looming
deficit crisis in 15 to 20 years.
I guess Alan missed most of 2016 and all 2017 where Republican had total control
of the government in the White House, Senate and House of representatives.
Where's our "better cheaper, healthcare plan, day 2"? Can't
blame that on Democrats.
This victory dance being taken by Trump's supporters and especially by
Trump himself might be premature. First of all, we really
don't know what is included in the Mueller Report, only a small summary
written by the AG appointed by Trump after that same AG wrote an unsolicited
paper claiming the president couldn't be found guilty of obstruction for no
other reason than because he is the president. That fact calls into question
the validity of the AG's claims in his short summaryBut
Mueller's investigation has revealed three major connection between Donald
Trump and people who worked for or with Russia:Trump’s former
campaign manager Paul Manafort had several shady connections with people who
worked for or with the Russian government.Several Trump staffers,
including Trump’s son Don Jr., were willing to work with Russians to get
dirt on Hillary Clinton and other top Democrats.And Trump was
working on a lucrative real estate deal in Moscow — and his personal
lawyer, Michael Cohen, the main negotiator reached out to top Vladimir Putin
officials to help grease the wheels.Now the Congressional leaders in
Congress are finally earning their money with oversight hearings.
Alan; I think you're confused. Really, really confused.
Well, Mr. Carabine got half of his tale correct.The Dems are TRYING
to protect us, but the GOP has managed to divert the attention of their faithful
followers.But he's mostly spot on regarding the Republicans.
An amazing display of dishonesty is this letter. Conflating the health care
crisis, which is real with the imaginary crisis of the border with Mexico.And, BTW, blaming Democrats for inaction in the first two years of the
Trump administration is ridiculous. For two years, the GOP has had unfettered
control of the entire government.They did nothing on either of these
matters. The problem is not Democrats. It is the party of Trump.
The letter writer got one sentence wrong, I fixed it for you.Twelve
Republican senators (including the two from Utah) tried to support the
Constitution during Trump's bid to undermine it.
My sentiments exactly Alan. Great letter!
Letter writer: "No evidence of “Russian collusion” or
“obstruction of justice” apparent."Why did DN
publish and propagate such a blatant falsehood?