Full disclosure. I never read BYU related articles. I look at the Headline to
see if I want to read the comments. The comments are generally much more
interesting, IMO.I really like the optimism of Cougarforever. Good
to feel optimistic about your team.As a rival fan I will point out
why I think it will be different. (consider the source;-))Last yr.
BYU went:1-3 v. PAC 121-2 v. MWC0-1 v. MAC (regular season)So, with that, and even with expected improvements to the BYU product,
this is what I'd predict for 2019.Utah - Loss. Utah should win
by multiple scores. But it's a rivalry, so....likely close.Tenn -
Loss. Hard to recover from a rivalry game. Travel to a storied stadium, SEC,
etc.USC - Loss. A dumpster fire but oozes talent. Helton is coaching for
his job.UW - Loss. They reload.Toledo – Win.USF –
50:50.BSU – 50:50.USU – 50:50.Liberty, Idaho
State, UMass - Wins.SDSU – 50:50.Split the 50:50 games
and go 6-6. Win them all and go 8-4. Remember BYU lost to NIU, in Provo, with
Zach Wilson starting. His QB rating was 25.9 with an INT and zero TDs.
“I am forever impressed with the civility of Utah fans, how respectful
they are of BYU, its high standards and its honor code.”gcoog:And then YOU have max-was-arrested. How nice.
I am forever impressed with the civility of Utah fans, how respectful they are
of BYU, its high standards and its honor code. The comments that they make on
these BYU articles are carefully considered and reflect a high degree of
knowledge of BYU athletics, academics, and administration and I look forward to
reading them every day. I also look forward to the athletic competition between
the schools, even though my Cougars can never hope to reach the lofty heights
occupied by the Utes. I am in awe of the accomplishments of Utah student
athletes, both on and off the fields and wish them well in all endeavors. I
also applaud the DN for fairly reporting on BYU and Utah and for carefully and
even-handedly applying high standards of content review on comments.
“Utah – based on bowl game performances, we finally beat the Utes
(soundly). Win.” We hear this every year!Too bad for you, our
biggest offensive weapons will be back, (pending any injuries in fall camp) and
you’ll be missing your biggest defensive weapons. And based
on YOUR bowl game performances, you’ll actually be facing a really good
defensive team in Utah. Unlike the one you beat who was ranked 107 in the
country. But coug fans don’t like to take into account the level of
competition. Good luck on USC! A mess? Yes...but they have a lot of
speed and NFL athletes. The cougs are lucky if they send more than one to the
NFL most years.
Cougar forever: As irrational as your comments my be, you are enthused. I wish
it were true, I hope it may be true but heaven knows it probably isn’t
even half true. We wouldn’t win 10 games in any mid-major conference in
the country. With this schedule the result will be closer to 7 losses than 10
wins. I must say, if we do the same thing with roughly the same talent we will
get much the same result. But we can hope, since that is really almost all we
have going. You do need to take a hard look at the fact that we would be
competing for 4th place in the MWC, AAC, or C-USA.
“Utah – based on bowl game performances, we finally beat the Utes
(soundly). Win.”Are you seriously comparing finish ranked P5
NW to that awful midmajor WMU? NW would’ve knocked byu-p out of the park
in the 1st half, same as what we would’ve done to WMU, except more
rapidly.You people are famous for predicting a W [soundly—LOL]
against us annually, only to always post a L....It’s Groundhog Day every
year.9 straight & counting is soon upon us.Go Utes!
Coug4ever-Wow talk about optimism. I would bet you a milkshake that the Cougs go
2-6 in their first 8 games and then close out the season 4-0 to end up 6-6. They
still need a running back, two reliable receivers, and a defense that can stop a
team who has a winning record.
The 2019 schedule is not as daunting as last season’s schedule. Among
other factors, we are getting Tennessee and USC at low points for those
programs. Predictions:Utah – based on bowl game performances,
we finally beat the Utes (soundly). Win.Tennessee – a
bottom-dweller in the SEC last year with multiple position needs; good
recruiting class but they can’t beat us with freshmen in the second game
of the year. Win.USC – a dumpster fire; new OC bolts for the
NFL, etc; we play them here. Win.Washington – lost a number of
key players but still will be tough (even in Provo). Loss.Toledo
– not even close to the 2016 team that played us tough. Win.USF – faded horribly last year; lost their last 6 games (by an average
of 19 points). Win.BSU – has to replace a multi-year starting
QB and other starters. 50:50.USU – a hard-fought game but we
will be coming off a bye while the Aggies D will be recovering from playing
against AFA’s front 7-punishing option. 50:50.Liberty, Idaho
State, UMass – wins.SDSU – difficult to predict; lost
their last 4 games. Likely win.Predicted 2019 record: 10-2.The 2020 schedule is much tougher -- we will be lucky to win 6 games in 2020.
@Max-was-right"BYU should drop the u game." if only...
Maxi loves the Utes:“BYU should drop the u game. Tell them to
collect the 80k from their basketball coach and let the Y fans sit back and
enjoy the u fans meltdown for not having BYU occupy their heads
24/7......”SO much hypocrisy in that post, coming from someone
that ALWAYS trolls the Utah boards. One of many examples below...“Max-was-right - Mapleton, UTMarch 28, 2019 5:09 p.m.The u
coaches making players play hurt. Putting winning and keeping their jobs above
player safety. Wow”I think it’s Utah that lives in YOUR
head 24/7 buddy!As for this article, at best with Kalani,
you’ll get a 7 win season, with an occasional 8 if you’re lucky!
You’ll beat Utah eventually, but it’ll most likely be very few and
far between for the foreseeable future!
BYU will go 9-3 this year. Their losses will be to Washington, Tennessee, and
South Florida! Additionally, while Wilson will be the starter, we will get a
good dose of Hall throughout the season. The D will again be in the top 25.
BUY will finish in the top 25, somewhere between 20-25. How that for
“We do have a very tough first five games and, even if we play well, could
lose as many as four of them. BUT....with Wilson we could also win as many as
three.“Which 1 game do you believe they win?Then,
which 3 games do you believe they could win?Keep in mind,
byu-p’s never beaten a .500 or better PAC-12 opponent.Go Utes!
The burning question is how many margin-of-defeat moral victories does byu-p
celebrate this year, particularly among their first four games?Who
knows, maybe byu-p gets lucky @ Tennessee, thus facilitating bowl eligibility
Best wishes to Stacy Conner with his transfer. Thanks so much, Stacy, for coming
to BYU. I was very excited when you came and hope you find the ideal spot, in
order to live your dreams!
I am excited about the connection between Coach Steward and Rice grad transfer
Esupka. Really hope that addition to our backfield produces great results.
Different year same hype.
College football is the best. Players who have a 4-year career and who all have
dreams of going to the next level, second-guessing coaches, raging at the refs,
fans who all think this will be a special year for their teams, spending way too
much money on team gear... I can't wait!
@ekuteAnd if the utes are as good as they keep telling themselves,
they might get 6 wins too. Good luck.I believe the football program
in Provo is heading toward a successful upcoming season.
@Cougalum - St. George, UTMarch 29, 2019 10:03 a.m."Jello: you
cannot blame Mangum for Holmoe’s over scheduling. Wilson succeeded because
he played the weak half of the schedule. Mangum could have succeeded in the weak
second half of the season. Be prepared for a very tough first 5 games this year.
Wilson will be as good as he was last year if he isn’t benched for the
second stringers to play."Not true, but you are late to the game
and I am not about to regurgitate the facts. Mangum was equally bad against
inferior teams during his career. The offense was dumbed down and he was given
two options only on every play because he couldn't handle more. The play
calling when Hill was under center and then again from the second game on with
Wilson was entirely different. The one they HAD to use with Mangum was HS level
at best.We do have a very tough first five games and, even if we
play well, could lose as many as four of them. BUT....with Wilson we could
also win as many as three. The last time I had this kind of hope
for the program was with Hill under center. Why am I still having to show
people. Mangum was NOT good.
BYU should drop the u game. Tell them to collect the 80k from their basketball
coach and let the Y fans sit back and enjoy the u fans meltdown for not having
BYU occupy their heads 24/7......
Jello: you cannot blame Mangum for Holmoe’s over scheduling. Wilson
succeeded because he played the weak half of the schedule. Mangum could have
succeeded in the weak second half of the season. Be prepared for a very tough
first 5 games this year. Wilson will be as good as he was last year if he
isn’t benched for the second stringers to play. But rest assured the
coaches and AD won’t take responsibility. At least we can look forward to
the players finally buying in to the culture by game 6 or 7.
Whoever scheduled Utah as the first game should be fired.
Cougalum - St. George, UT you asked a good question. My reaction is also,
"Good grief!" But why did you do that in the Utah game? Both
offensively and defensively you were destroying Utah until the score reached 28
to 7. Everything the Cougars had been doing at that point changed, and the Utes
went on to destroy BYU. Please never do that again. The coaching lost that
@Cougalum - St. George, UTMarch 29, 2019 12:15 a.m."Did
Roderick just imply that last year they just tried to keep it close, protect the
defense, hang around and hope to win in the end? I agree that “this
year” they should play to win. Good grief."I don't
think he implied anything. He came right out and said that their whole goal was
to keep the offense simple, eat clock, avoid plays that could turn in to big
mistakes and hope to win a close one. That offense was created for Mangum
because he was not a very good QB. He made poor decisions. He could not read
defenses. They game planned for who they had playing QB. Whole
different game plan with Wilson and Hall. It will be refreshing to actually
have a D1 QB under center.
Glad to see competition for the QBs, hope they utilize both of these great young
men this year.
@ mncougar - Bronco left the cupboard so bare that it took a couple of years to
even replace the departing staff. Bronco's recruiting after he decided to
search for the next job, or perhaps after he got the Virginia job, was, shall we
say, insufficient to replace the players. So after Bronco's last recruits
left, the cupboard was pretty bare. It did not help that Detmer's offense
failed so decisively. It literally took a couple of years to replenish. Throw in
the two-year lag for missions, and you simply cannot rebuild from scratch in
less than three or four years. This will be the 4th year, so we can expect a
more complete team with better results this year.A good lesson: you
don't appoint a coach after he has been out of football for 10 years, no
matter how great a player he was. In fact, great players seldom make great
coaches. They are often instinctive, and cannot reach well.
4 wins if they stay strong...6 if they're as good as they're telling
themselves. go cougs.
Did Roderick just imply that last year they just tried to keep it close, protect
the defense, hang around and hope to win in the end? I agree that “this
year” they should play to win. Good grief.
As good as Zack's potential is, I am not so sure that Jaren may not be a
better overall QB in the long run. A nice dilemma to have.