Analysis: Dave Rose set standard of consistency at BYU but he always wanted more; can the Cougars get there someday?

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  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    March 30, 2019 2:20 p.m.

    @biopowertrain

    "...the true response to the question posed in the headline is No, BYU will never get to the Final Four..."

    Along the same lines, will the conference of champions ever get to the Final Four again?

    The entire PAC 12 only has ONE Final Four appearance in the last decade, 2010 to 2019, and Utah hasn't played in a Final Four since last century.

  • poyman Draper, UT
    March 30, 2019 10:16 a.m.

    @biopowertrain

    "...the true response to the question posed in the headline is No, BYU will never get to the Final Four..."

    ********

    You are dead wrong.

    BYU has nearly done it twice... Once with Danny Ainge, Greg Kite and Fred Roberts, etc. in the 80's; and it could have been done in 2011 without the loss of Brandon Davies (and even without Davies the Cougs missed the Elite 8 and a date for the Final Four with Butler by a missed Collinsworth free throw against Florida with just a couple of seconds left in regulation (even at that they lost in OT)...

    Those 2 BYU teams were great and very well could have been Final Four teams (and I believe that with Davies and Tyler Haws (who was on a mission at the time) that the 2011BYU could have won it all.

    With the right leadership in the AD office, the right selection of a Head Coach and his Assistants BYU can and will return to national power status... Holmoe is not the right guy for the AD job and hasn't been for years... Rose was a very good coach but began to lose his energy aility to cope with NCAA BB demands which really showed up in recruiting and ability to hang on to players for 4 years. Someone like Pope can get us there.

  • BioPowertrain Westland, MI
    March 29, 2019 6:12 p.m.

    Let's all please face it: the true response to the question posed in the headline is No, BYU will never get to the Final Four. Let's focus our attention on the football program and move forward.

  • CougarForever Holladay, Utah
    March 29, 2019 5:20 p.m.

    Rose seems like a good person and an overall good basketball coach but the game-to-game variability in the team's performance was maddening at times.

  • GrandpaV Pleasant Grove, UT
    March 29, 2019 11:30 a.m.

    The frustration was the inconsistency; winning against some of the best and then getting beat by some of the worst teams. Unusual individual and team scoring droughts that made a win nearly impossible. Something was wrong!

  • CowboySky Green River, WY
    March 29, 2019 10:52 a.m.

    Realistically, in today's environment, it will be a real challenge to get back to the NCAA tournament. With Gonzaga in the league, Cougs will almost surely need to have a stellar regular season to make it in...including a couple wins against tier 1 teams. As long as Mark Few coaches the Zags, beating them with any regularity will be virtually impossible. Recruiting great players is tough at the Y due to factors we are all familiar with. Good players? Yes...but a Jimmer or a Danny only come around every 10-15 years for the Cougs. Good coaching can make a significant difference so good luck Mr. Holmoe in getting the right guy for the daunting task at hand.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    March 29, 2019 9:23 a.m.

    Leaving the MWC hurt BYU basketball. The quality of recruits was never the same in the WCC.

  • red.diehard Central, UT
    March 29, 2019 9:17 a.m.

    @LonestarRunner

    "One other factor that some BYU fans have taken for granted the last few seasons is Dave Rose has owned Utah, winning 14 of 20, most by double digits, including this season."

    That's it?
    That is all you've got?
    That is your standard of excellence?
    No wonder Mr. Rose retired.

    (bring on the we 'woulda', 'shoulda', 'coulda')

  • Cougarbib2 Moorpark, CA
    March 28, 2019 10:21 p.m.

    I will miss Dave Rose.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    March 28, 2019 7:04 p.m.

    “One other factor that some BYU fans have taken for granted the last few seasons is Dave Rose has owned Utah, winning 14 of 20, most by double digits, including this season.”

    But he was .500 against our Coach K w/his own recruits, losing 3 of last 5.

    Go Utes!

  • water rocket , 00
    March 28, 2019 4:29 p.m.

    I am a bit confused. On one sports broadcast it was mentioned that BYU bought out Rose's contract, so was he being pushed out the door? "Back Talk" mentioned in his comment that Rose was being "forced" out as well. So my question is this: Is Rose really leaving under his own terms, or is Holmoe politely showing him the door? The next question is now who will replace him? Bronco left under somewhat similar circumstances and look what happened to the football program. I seriously hope Holmoe doesn't go for a rookie head coach on this one.

  • Back Talk Federal Way, WA
    March 28, 2019 4:09 p.m.

    Working for BYU is not like a regular job. It is like working for the family business. You cant always do what you need to do because of other issues involved.

    BYU has messed up coaching & leadership changes in the past. I hate to see Coach Rose "forced" out into retirement. I am glad that he is being honored as he is.

    Agree with others that it will be difficult for anyone else to duplicate Roses success when Gonzaga is doing what they are doing. Even still, Rose beat them 3-4 times in their own building.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    March 28, 2019 4:03 p.m.

    One other factor that some BYU fans have taken for granted the last few seasons is Dave Rose has owned Utah, winning 14 of 20, most by double digits, including this season.