Utah governor signs into law bill to ban abortion after 18 weeks

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  • The Great Helmsman Salt Lake City, UT
    March 27, 2019 4:56 p.m.

    @Obama10

    "i have often wondered how as a civilized society we still allow abortions? "

    I have often wondered how as a civilized society we still allow laws to dictate what a woman can do to her body. I cannot think of similar laws dictating what a man can do to his body.

  • Obama10 SYRACUSE, UT
    March 27, 2019 9:21 a.m.

    i have often wondered how as a civilized society we still allow abortions? With ultrasound, 3D imaging, and invitro surgery, we can see these babies heart beat, movements, and actions. We see babies struggle on ultrasound as the abortion doctors rip and pull their body apart or squirm as the abortion doctor injects saline solution to burn the baby to death. This is what we call a progressive and civilized society?

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    March 27, 2019 9:02 a.m.

    "..., a federal judge ruled on Monday. Rhetorical quest, does anyone think Utah's version will stand up in court??"

    A single judge "ruled."

    So, it depends upon whether a single activist judge rules, or if a judge who recognizes science and morality rules.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    March 27, 2019 8:58 a.m.

    Babies have already been born at 21 weeks, so the theoretical age of viability is certainly something less that 21 weeks.
    But "viability" is an arbitrary, mere opinion, on its own. All fetuses are definitely "human", and "sentience" occurs after only a matter of days.
    The problem with all this is that secularists would like to pretend they are invoking "science". But all criteria based on sentience or viability require an estimate... a mere opinion.
    There is one point in the whole process that science dictates that a "human" has been formed: the point of conception.
    That is what science unequivocally determines. The pro-abortion groups simply reject the science because it is "inconvenient".

  • IcemanCometh SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    March 26, 2019 8:37 p.m.

    A decades-old North Carolina law that banned women from having abortions after their 20th week of pregnancy is unconstitutional, a federal judge ruled on Monday.

    Rhetorical quest, does anyone think Utah's version will stand up in court??

  • James B. Young SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    March 26, 2019 8:17 p.m.

    The bill will not survive judicial challenge.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    March 26, 2019 7:57 p.m.

    This is DOA. Federal Judge just shot down North Carolina's 20 week ban. Just like the Utah legislator's own in-house council told them would happen. This is nothing but an expensive message bill wasting Utah taxpayer's dollars.

  • Latter-daySaintForever St. George, UT
    March 26, 2019 6:22 p.m.

    Good job Governor!

  • mrjj69 bountiful, UT
    March 26, 2019 6:07 p.m.

    Any law that doesn't comply with roe vs wade will be challenged in court. Wait until other states suits, to save taxpayer money.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    March 26, 2019 5:34 p.m.

    @pragmatistferlife - So until a fetus obtains the stage of development that it is a functioning "human" (viability) the rights of the mother are favored.

    When does a fetus reach viability? Has a one year old reached viability? It certainly can't survive on its own. It is still dependent on others. That is why a progressive author promoted a child could be aborted up to age five. The concept of Euthanasia is a person is no longer viable on their own.

    If you have moral objections to "abortion" fine. If you want to lobby against "abortion" fine, that's your right. And that is what we are doing.

  • Lagomorph Salt Lake City, UT
    March 26, 2019 4:15 p.m.

    Here’s a not too farfetched thought. What happens when a woman whose life is threatened by a pregnancy at any stage invokes Utah’s “Stand Your Ground” law to protect her life by terminating the pregnancy? And what if Utah passes a law defining life as beginning at conception, which then makes the fetus a separate legal person from the woman? Does she have the legal right to protect her own life by taking the life of another separate person who threatens her life, say, by causing a hemorrhage or removing vital nutrients and oxygen from her bloodstream?

  • The Great Helmsman Salt Lake City, UT
    March 26, 2019 3:57 p.m.

    This is a case of a religious majority imposing their moral values on EVERYONE in the entire state. Nothing more.

  • 1aggie Salt Lake City, UT
    March 26, 2019 3:33 p.m.

    "A similar law in Mississippi is currently in the Federal Courts being challanged."

    UT could save money and wait to see how that law is settled before proceeding.

    At a minimum:
    Does this law allow exceptions for life-threatening conditions for the mother or lethal abnormalities identified in the fetus?

  • pragmatistferlife Salt Lake City, UT
    March 26, 2019 8:57 a.m.

    cjb.."Babies heart's start beating at about 22 days. Their brain waves start at 5 or 6 weeks. We should do better."

    And you can grow a heart on a stick that beats perfectly well. This heart beat and brain wave position is pure garbage, as is the 18 week nonsense.

    A fetus will not survive with any chance of a non impaired life until it reaches 22 weeks of gestation. The chances of survival at all at 18 weeks in almost non existent.

    Get informed people. If you have moral objections to "abortion" fine. If you want to lobby against "abortion" fine, that's your right, but stop the misinformation and felonious claims. Heart beats and brain waves by themselves have nothing to do with the ability of a fetus to survive, and the problem is the rights of one "human" versus the rights of another "human" (fetus vs. mother). So until a fetus obtains the stage of development that it is a functioning "human" (viability) the rights of the mother are favored.

    18 weeks doesn't even come close to qualifying as a point of viability.

    Personally I would probably join in choices other than abortion, but the key is choices.

  • Thomas Jefferson Salt Lake City, UT
    March 26, 2019 7:44 a.m.

    The only point is to give our tax dollars to some lucky law firm who wont even have to do anything and to pander to people who vote gop reflexively anyway. A pathetic waste of money.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    March 26, 2019 7:30 a.m.

    Babies heart's start beating at about 22 days. Their brain waves start at 5 or 6 weeks. We should do better.

  • Utah_1 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 26, 2019 6:59 a.m.

    Since the US Constitution is very clear the #utleg decides this, I hope they override his veto. His stopping the #utleg doing their constitutional duty cost the taxpayers last time money and months of representation in the US House. It is also the main reason we got a Utah Constitutional Amendment to allow them to call themselves into session.

  • Utefan60 , 00
    March 26, 2019 5:57 a.m.

    Here we go again. Lawsuits paid for by Utah taxpayers.

    Why not make those who propose these bills to post a bond, and then be liable for the legal charges that will happen?

    A similar law in Mississippi is currently in the Federal Courts being challanged.

    Why does the legislature waste money on these supposed "morality" bills that can not pass court muster?

    A woman and her doctor are the only ones that can make these very difficult decisions.