@dn subscriber"It's not the guns, it's the criminals
and crazy people."And since it's impossible to control
criminals and crazy people (because new ones are being created all the time
without anyone's knowledge), the only solution is to take away the guns -
we can control those.On that note, ever notice how other civilized
countries (England, Germany, Switzerland, etc.) have just as many criminals and
crazy people as we do, yet they have a fraction of the shootings? Turns out
taking away guns works!
Note that none of the long list of gun control schemes so beloved by the left
would have prevented this. Enforcing current laws would.Stealing a
gun is illegal.Possession of stolen property is illegal.Possession
of a handgun by a teen is illegal.Possession in a vehicle by an underage
person is illegal. Selling a handgun to a teen is illegal. Dealing
in firearms without a license is illegal.As a minimum the shooter can, and
should be, charged with gross negligence.Although not mentioned in the
article, it is highly likely that these teenagers were also prohibited from gun
possession due to criminal records, gang activity, or drug use.It's not the guns, it's the criminals and crazy people.
@pukkoThank you for not addressing my argument.Again,
for every gun that was ever used in a crime, there are only 4 ways it could have
happened:1. A bad guy legally bought a gun.2. A good guy legally
bought a gun and later turned bad.3. A good guy legally bought a gun and a
bad guy stole it.4. A good guy legally bought a gun, lost it, and a bad
guy found it.Scenario 1 is the government's fault.Scenario 2 is the good guy gun owner's fault.Scenario 3 is the good
guy gun owner's fault.Scenario 4 is the good guy gun owner's
fault.What can we learn from this? First, the government cannot be
trusted to properly vet gun buyers. Second, good guys cannot be trusted to stay
good, or to keep control of their guns.Therefore the only solution
is to keep guns out of everyone's hands.
Brave Sir Robin - San Diego, CAYou don't have any gun rights
living in California
Brave Sir Robin, we appreciate your full disclosure regarding the true position
of the antigun lobby. You are being fully truthful when you demand the full
implementation of laws prohibiting gun ownership by all Americans and the
elimination of the Second Amendment. Honesty, when it comes to gun control, is
difficult to find.
@Utah Ute 69Just further proof that there's no such thing as a
safe gun. Every gun ever used in a crime was once acquired legally by
someone.Therefore the only solution is a complete and total ban on
guns for all people, since it is clear that even "responsible" gun
owners cannot be trusted to keep track of their guns.
ConservativeCommonTater, gee, people that steel guns and sell them don't
register their guns and children that are legally too young to own a sidearm
can't buy a gun from a licensed Federally approved gun dealer. So, once
again, the only people that must go though the gun purchasing process are the
good guys with no criminal record, no restraining orders and are real legal
residents of the state and the USA. The real question should be who did these
kids buy the guns from, where did they get the money to purchase the guns, why
they felt the need to have two illegal guns in their car, what is their gang
history, what is their drug history and more. Then these kids and those that
helped in the purchase of the guns should be punished to the full possible
extent. Perhaps it is time to go after the guys that committed the gun crime(s)
and stop making gun laws that only impact those that don't use guns fro
Gee, if we had gun registration and better background checks, it would be easy
to trace this gun. Bought it on Snapchat for $250, for a Glock?
That had to be stolen also.