@ Onion Daze - Payson, UT - March 24, 2019 5:16 p.m. - "There is a big
difference between being "innocent" and "not guilty under the
law". The two are not the same. The obstruction of justice issue probably
falls into the "not guilty under the law" category??Hardly a
"nothing burger". There are a few guys going to prison."First, how, exactly, did Trump "obstruct" justice? You said he did,
so how, specifically, did he do this? And, "if" he did, why didn't
Mueller say he did?Second, you need to be more honest. In terms of
Trump, which is what the MAIN objective of the investigation was, this entire
investigation was in fact a "nothing burger". That can be said 100%
objectively because Mueller is NOT recommending any further indictments. To
shoot for almost 730 days at your main target and never hit it once and then
claim victory is dishonest.Those who despise Trump need to ask
themselves "why" they despise Trump and then actually do some honest,
unbiased research and see if what they find matches, exactly, their emotions.
Trump is "not" perfect, but he also did not collude with Russia not
It is evident that we need at least two more special counsels appointed. 1. To
investigate why a probe into the Russian collusion allegations was even done in
the first place; and 2. To investigate why Mr. Mueller didn't find
President Trump guilty. This behavior could go on for a while, and
it has absolutely nothing to do with truth or justice..........
oldbasketball - Draper, UTMarch 25, 2019 10:24 a.m."Mad
Hatter-It doesn't bother me a bit that you took your shot at Fox News. But
what you didn't say was more telling. You did not even try to defend cnn
and msnbc . . . "Are you mistaking the talking heads of Fox News
for journalists? If you read the book I recommended (which was written by a
journalist), you will see that minimum investment was placed in the Fox News
news division because the big money is in their entertainment/opinion people
like Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson. That network is basically a propaganda
outlet. Although the journalists who work at Fox News are reputable and good,
they get little support from the network. Most Fox viewers often mistake
confusing the entertainment division for the news division. They may think
they're getting news, but they aren't.I don't need to
defend CNN or MSNBC since I get my information from the NYTimes and WaPost.
Sometimes I read the LATimes and WSJ if I'm in Starbucks. I prefer written
reports from investigative journalists who have space to develop their stories.
MSNBC does bring on good journalists to talk about their on-going work, but I
prefer paper in my hands.
Thid Barker - Victor, IDMarch 25, 2019 1:17 p.m." . . .
Attorney General William P. Barr read the Mueller report and reported the
Mueller report stated there was no Russian/Trump collusion."Yes,
you're partially correct on that point. The headline to this article is
dead wrong. William Barr said in his letter no Russian/Trump collusion, but we
don't know if Robert Mueller mentioned that conclusion in his report.
It's doubtful. Most of what we are hearing is that the "no
collusion" statement is Barr's alone, not necessarily found in
Mueller's report. Mueller deferred to others to analyze the information and
come to a conclusion.As understood by many, that decision was to be
made by the Congress, not the AG. This still remains unclear, but it seems that
a partisan appointee having the final call on this issue after two years of
investigation and less than 48 hours of consideration is jumping the gun.
I'll wait to read the report myself and make a determination. However, you failed to mention the term "no exoneration". Barr also
used that term suggesting a lack of evidence on the question of obstruction of
justice. This is significant. This is NOT a "not guilty" decision.
@wgirl - "According to Gallup, his current approval rating is 39%, which is
also the average approval rate for his presidency to date. In comparison, the
average approval rating for Presidents who served in the years 1938 - 2019 is
53%. Obama had an average approval rate of 48%."Hmm, I remember
Obama having single digit and lower teens approval ratings for several months in
a row (though I don't keep track for averages); I do believe that was right
after Obamacare passed, so maybe he came up in the averages through his full 8
years in office. Perhaps Trump's rating will average higher eventually as
well.Anyway, what I really wanted to say is: I don't give too
much credit to Gallup polling; it showed Hillary was going to win by a
landslide; and she lost (perhaps got the popular vote; but popularity isn't
the winning vote). Obviously Gallop polling is not an accurate reflection of
reality of this nation's voters.
@joe5 - You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but it is just that, an
opinion.Trump lost the popular vote. According to Gallup, his
current approval rating is 39%, which is also the average approval rate for his
presidency to date. In comparison, the average approval rating for Presidents
who served in the years 1938 - 2019 is 53%. Obama had an average approval rate
of 48%. These polls give me hope - at least my opinion is shared
with a majority of my fellow Americans. Others feel the same way I do about
having a vulgar, con-artist as the representation of American values and
ideals.A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become
right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted - cheered
for - by Trump and his supporters or because those things are not technically
crimes. Many of us are very concerned with the example Trump sets
for our children and the nation as a whole. "When the wicked
rule, the people mourn" We pay a high price for those tax cuts
for the rich and a few judges.
@JLindow - St. George, UTMarch 25, 2019 9:15 a.m.If there was an
investigation against Obama, Obama fired the first person running the
investigation, and Obama's hand-picked AG was the only one who got to see
the report, how much would you trust that AG's summary?"If
obama told the FBI to stand down in it's investigation, would you trust any
report that came out? Oh, right, that did happen. Never mind.
wgirl: And despite all that, he is having one of the most successful
administrations in the last century.
Typo!My paragraph should have read: "That DOESN'T mean that
Trump isn't a vulgar, serial adulterer, womanizing fraudster that surrounds
himself with criminals and spends 1 in 5 days at his private golf resorts and a
good chunk of every day watching TV and Tweeting out degrading nick-names and
lies between trips overseas to prostrate himself before Putin.
Daedalus, Stephen: The joke is on the Democrats because Attorney General William
P. Barr read the Mueller report and reported the Mueller report stated there was
no Russian/Trump collusion. Now the Dems want to investigate Barr AND Mueller!
That's the joke, in case you missed it!
Trump has shown us time and again that he is very good at getting himself out of
situations he doesn't like - via bone spurs and bankruptcies. Trump himself called this whole thing "a hoax" over and over again.
I trust Mueller. I heard Trump ask Russia for help, we know he lied
about the Trump Tower meeting and other things regarding Russia - I thought
Mueller would find fire with all that smoke. He didn't. That
does mean that Trump isn't a vulgar, serial adulterer, womanizing fraudster
that surrounds himself with criminals and spends 1 in 5 days at his private golf
resorts and a good chunk of every day watching TV and Tweeting out degrading
nick-names and lies between trips overseas to prostrate himself before Putin.Unlike Trump and his Party, I trust the FBI and other law enforcement
and intelligence agencies. They have degraded and insulted these institutions
for 2 years only to gloat now. If Trump and his supporters are going to ask for
apologies, they should start by apologizing to the men and women of the
institutions they've been trashing.I hope the report is
released, even if it has to be redacted, but it is time to move on.
@Thid Baker: unsurprisingly, you missed the joke.None people
commenting extensively about the Mueller report said have actually read it.
Now I am sure we will see the news media and others "dumb it down" and
rationalize that the Mueller report and Mr Barr really means nothing.
@ 2 bits"And if you read my comments you would know that
I've already said that 100 times."I do occasionally read
your comments, and sometimes you do acknowledge the reality that the
partisanship, tactics and tricks are found equally on both sides. But it's
usually like in this instance - you do so AFTER you get challenged. But
that's more than many on this board will do, so credit for that.
Mad Hatter-It doesn't bother me a bit that you took your shot at Fox News.
But what you didn't say was more telling. You did not even try to defend
cnn and msnbc that have been spewing out the fake news Russian Collusion garbage
that has been going on for two years.
@JLindowRE: "If there was an investigation against Obama, Obama fired
the first person running the investigation"...---The FBI
director was never running the Mueller Investigation.The
"Special Counsel" is not run by the FBI. It's an independent
counsel. Not run by Comey.The FBI was doing a counter intelligence
probe at the same time. Comey publicly testified to Congress Trump was not
personally under investigation in the counterintelligence probe. He was under
investigation by the special counsel headed by Mueller though.===RE: Those declaring victory for Trump and a bad day for Democrats ignore
that we haven't seen the report, just a summary from a political appointee
with a well known bias against the investigation"...---And those
pretending the summary report is totally off base from Mueller's full
report are conveniently ignoring the fact that Robert Mueller has not said that
anything in the summary does not represent his findings, or what is in his full
report.I think Mueller has enough integrity to say something if the
Summary mis-stated his findings.Trump wasn't vindicated. But
he also wasn't charged with high crimes or misdemeanors by Muller's
@ GingerMarshall - Brooklyn, OH - March 24, 2019 2:52 p.m. - "Barr was
hired to protect Trump. I don’t care what he says, because he’s
already made it clear he won’t act no matter what. The full report needs
to go to Congress and then to the American people. I trust Mueller. I
don’t trust Barr."So you trust Mueller and not Barr?Let me ask you something:Let's use our objective,
rational brains for a second.....does it make sense that Mueller would
investigate Trump for over 2 years, find him guilty of collusion but then when
Barr says "no collusion" that Mueller, who you claim is a man of
complete justice and trust, would then say nothing to the public of what he
found but what Barr is, supposedly, not saying?Does that pass the
common sense test to you at all?
@ pragmatistferlife - Salt Lake City, UT - March 24, 2019 2:15 p.m. - "If
you read the notes and definitions Trump and the boys got lucky. They were more
than willing to meet with Russians 100 times during the campaign but the
Russians actually had nothing to collude with."Get real: any
"notes" and "definitions" you claim are in the report, Mueller
would have read them. Good grief!, Mueller would have written them.Get over it: there was "no" collusion.Seriously, how do
those on your side sleep at night?
@Karen R 9:22RE: "@ 2 bitsI hope the Dems don't Benghazi
Trump. Or use relentless investigation and propaganda about insecure
transmission of national security-related information in an attempt to erode his
support leading up to and during the election campaign. But if they do,
I'd say they were using the playbook created by someone before them,
wouldn't you?"...---Yes. And if you read my comments you
would know that I've already said that 100 times.I'm not
under the delusion some partisans have, that this just started with Trump. Or
with Obama. It's been going on a long time (and by both sides). Each
side learns from what the other side did (and worked) and then does the same
thing to the Next President. That's the whole point.I'm
not saying Trump is more picked on that other Presidents. I've pointed
out 100 times that it's been done to EVERY President since Clinton. They
just take what worked then, ramp it up a bit, and do it to try to destroy the
next President. That's the point! Think it's going to stop here? I
don't.Partisans have tried to destroy the people's support
for every President since Clinton (exactly what Russia wants us to do).
Daedalus, Stephen: Because there is classified information in the report and
unless you have a security clearance, you will never see everything in the
report! Classified information is a term applied to material that our government
believes is sensitive information that requires secrecy based on national or
regional security needs. In other words, its on a need to know basis and
America's enemies should not know every thing! Get a security clearance
first. The need for security clearances proves knowledge in the wrong hands is
@Thid Barker 8:04RE: "The Democrats have exposed themselves with this
"investigation" and have made fools of themselves in front of the entire
world! Even the Russians are laughing at them"...---I have to
agree that the Russians have probably been laughing at us (Rs and Ds) this whole
time. Their plan worked better than they could have imagined, and on so many
levels.They wanted to shake confidence in our leaders and our
government.They were so successful in shaking America's
confidence in Hillary Clinton that we didn't just doubt her... she lost the
election! I don' think they (or anybody) imagined that could happen in a
million years let alone a few weeks. But it did.I don't think
they expected Trump to win. That's why they hadn't targeted him with
as many fake-news adds as they did Clinton. When he won (unexpectedly) they
had to scramble to discredit him quickly... but Democrats beat them to the
punch. All they had to do was sit back and laugh while Adam Schiff, Chuck
Todd, and MSNBC did their dirty work for them.I bet the Russians
were sitting in their offices chuckling at how well it worked, and how well the
Democrats were doing their dirty work for them.
@ 2 bits"Democrats have more tricks up their sleeves. Tricks Rs
will use on the next President I bet."I hope the Dems don't
Benghazi Trump. Or use relentless investigation and propaganda about insecure
transmission of national security-related information in an attempt to erode his
support leading up to and during the election campaign.But if they
do, I'd say they were using the playbook created by someone before them,
wouldn't you?And now I'm listening to Lindsay Graham going
on AGAIN about the Clinton email investigation. But no apparent concern that
Trump uses insecure devices. Good grief.Dem candidates: Please
stick to healthcare, education, immigration, and climate change. Let R's
go alone down the HRC and other victimhood rabbit holes they just can't
stay away from.
If there was an investigation against Obama, Obama fired the first person
running the investigation, and Obama's hand-picked AG was the only one who
got to see the report, how much would you trust that AG's summary?Those declaring victory for Trump and a bad day for Democrats ignore that we
haven't seen the report, just a summary from a political appointee with a
well known bias against the investigation.
Wow, people are so upset about this that they will do whatever mental gymnastics
are necessary to believe there is still hope that the president will be charged.
For example, believing that Barr is misrepresenting the Mueller report at the
president's direction. Do you really think that is possible? You believe
that Barr would be able to spin a false narrative and nobody on the Mueller team
would correct him? I am not a Trump fan, but I love this country. It is best for
the country to move on and run the country, and not waste another minute or
tax-payer dollar on this investigation.
Hey, for some reason Mueller forgot to e-mail a copy of his report. Can one of
you guys please send me a copy of the one he sent you?
How about we all "band" together to move this country forward and
continue the awesome progress we have made in the past two years?We
each need to disassociate ourselves from the concept that:"It's not a good idea unless it's MY idea".🤗
"Some chicken. Some neck".🤔
The Democrats are in serious damage control mode now! They have met their enemy
and their enemy is themselves!
A great day for America...very very bad day for the democrats and the left wing
media! As always, what is good for America is bad for the
democrats...that's all you need to know what the dems stand for
This is not the end. This is just the end of the Mueller Investigation.Everybody expects Democrats to continue the same tactics they have
employed since the day Trump was announced the winner.This
isn't the end. Adam Schiff is already talking about a subpoena for Robert
Mueller. Mueller is getting death threats. He just did his job.While Mueller has categorical ruled out campaign collusion with Russia, he
left the door open for a case on obstruction of justice.The problem
with Proving Obstruction conclusively is... you have to prove the person's
intent. Not just timing, or how it looks. It requires reading the mind
of the person.Presidents can and do replace FBI directors all the
time. Especially when a new President takes office. Proving Trump did it to
end the Mueller Investigation is hard. Especially hard to prove because he let
the Mueller Investigation run to completion and never once tried to end it like
Chuck Todd kept telling the American people he was going to do.Getting enough senators to vote guilty on this? Probably not.But
it's not the end. Democrats have more tricks up their sleeves. Tricks
Rs will use on the next President I bet.
@Mad Hatter:"Fox News, huh? Do you mean the political network created
by Roger Ailes for Rupert Murdoch that was more partisan entertainment than
actual news?"Just because you don't like what you hear
onFox News does not mean it is "partisan". It seems biased to Lefties
because they hear things they never hear on CNN: both sides of a story.The simple fact remains that throughout this entire investigation Fox
News has been the one that is simply "most factually accurate".
The Democrats have exposed themselves with this "investigation" and have
made fools of themselves in front of the entire world! Even the Russians are
laughing at them!
The investigation is over.There was no collusion.There was no
obstruction of justice.None. Zero. Zip. Nada. It did not happen.
It is entirely a hateful delusion from the Trump-hating Left. Now,
I know the Left wants to pick-over the bones of the carcass of the
investigation, but it is a violation of privacy to release information that did
not lead to any crime. Remember that many Trump-haters were interviewed and
there were many motivated to say derogatory things, and some are even already
convicted of lying. If Trump is not above the law, then certainly he is also
not beneath the basic protections of the law. We really do not have any right
to see all the details of Mueller's investigation. It is a confidential
investigation that revealed there simply was **no crime**. The Left
obvious still desperately wants to pull any strings they can find. It is still
How can this be possible? CNN, MSNBC, and the Dems have been telling us for
over two years that there was Russian collusion. Hundreds of stories,
hundreds of experts, and countless Democrats including all the current
presidential presidential candidates have told us that there was a mountain of
evidence confirming the Russian collusion. Russia, Russia Russia. Now we
find what most of us have suspected all along.....no evidence at all. NO
Russian collusion! The national media in this country is a shameful discrace!
Do Trump advocates fear the American legal system, misunderstand it, or simply
want it abolished to benefit their leader? A legitimate inquiry was begun. In
an abbreviated interpretation of the Mueller investigation, the Attorney General
tells us that no evidence of Russian/Trump campaign coordination was discovered.
The President appears exonerated in his claim that his campaign did not
coordinate with a foreign entity. In other words, the system worked. (Apparently, there are other substantial questions unanswered in the Mueller
report, but we have to wait to see how the Attorney General addresses those
issues.)Secondly is it fundamentally unAmerican to go after your
critics, demanding they be fired or worse? The President has demanded that his
tormentors and opponents during this process face extreme sanctions. Is
retribution how we want the American political system to work? One would think
vindication with the inevitable victory laps that this President will make would
be enough.Thirdly, this is hardly the end of the process of
inspecting the actions of the President. Again, let the legal process work and
the chips fall where they may.
Best Democrat melt down since election night 2016. Fun to watch.
Trump didn't conspire with a foreign adversary to manipulate an election?
I find that good news, but then this is the low bar we have for this guy. To
me, the more plausible explanation all along was that he was simply using
Russian interference to his advantage, as someone would do if they see no
ethical boundaries.As for the obstruction charge, I wish Atty. Gen.
Barr hadn't put his thumb on the scale. As best I can tell, he didn't
need to, nor was it his place. Mueller wasn't going to indict and the next
step for consideration isn't the AG's office, but Congress. So why
insert yourself and unnecessarily raise legitimate questions of partisanship
(given how he came to be on Trump's radar)? So I'm
exasperated at that. Right now it feels like the last thing one would do if you
were thinking about the nation's interest (which is who Barr is supposed to
be serving). But we don't have all the facts yet, and the people whose
judgment I have most confidence in continue to say that Mueller, Barr, and
Rosenstein are people of integrity. So I'll reserve final judgment until
we get the whole story. But, man, I wish he hadn't done that.
"The long answer is that the deep state is capable of attempting a coup
without being punished for it. That needs to be fixed."Yes, it
absolutely does. Members of the media/entertainment/socialist Democrat complex
have committed actual treason. We must identify the Gadiantons in our midst and
bring them to justice.Personally, I have le
n8ive american - Shelley, IdahoMarch 24, 2019 3:46 p.m."@Joe Leaphorn - Scottsdale, AZMarch 24, 2019 1:44 p.m."As per the LA Times, NY Times and others, Democrats claim that they will
subpoena Mueller to make sure there was no presidential interference in the
probe. There will be an investigation into the investigation. Try searching
latest news reports."There is no plan to subpoena Robert
Mueller. Calling him before the House Judiciary Committee to answer questions
Democrats may have about his report is not an investigation. Perhaps you meant
to say clarification. Since no one outside of William Barr, Rod Rosenstein and
members of the Mueller investigation team have read the report, all we have is
Barr's condensed summary.Hopefully you will read the report in
its entirety and recognize that there is no "investigation into the
investigator". What we have may be a requirement for explaination and better
understanding of what has not as yet been made available to the public. For
example, there is insufficient evidenct to determine collusion, but there is no
statement of exoneration. What does that mean to you? Mueller only gathered the
facts; he made no determination.
oldbasketball - Draper, UTMarch 24, 2019 7:22 p.m."This
does not come as a surprise to any of us who watch FOX news where they actually
get the facts before they report them."Fox News, huh? Do you
mean the political network created by Roger Ailes for Rupert Murdoch that was
more partisan entertainment than actual news? The network that has become Donald
Trump's mouthpiece where he bloviates about his thoughts and opinions?Let's understand one another, OK? Fox is to news what Trump is to
intellectual curiosity This is an old trope that has been rattling around since
Fox was created in 1996. Fox doesn't do news. "Fair and Balanced"
was a marketing idea to sell it to conservative viewers. There's never been
anything "fair and balanced" about Fox and Ailes never intended that.
He wasn't a news guy and didn't invest in journalists. He
wanted people who thought and agreed with him on everything. Perhaps you should
read the book by Gabriel Sherman: 'The Loudest Voice in the Room: How the
Brilliant, Bombastic Roger Ailes Built Fox News - and Divided a Country'
and see this all in context. Fox was never supposed to be a news network like
CNN. It was to push a right-wing agenda.
"After issuing 2,800 subpoenas and 500 search warrants, interviewing 500
witnesses, employing former Hillary Clinton aides, 40 FBI agents and 19 lawyers,
and spending tens of millions of taxpayer dollars, Robert Mueller concluded
unequivocally, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump
Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election
interference activities." ---And yet politicians and media did lie to the
American people everyday for two years that Trump was a Russian spy agent and
did collude with them. Crazy, but some folks will still believe media reporting
Pragmatistferlife: “If you read the notes and definitions Trump and the
boys got lucky. They were more than willing to meet with Russians 100 times
during the campaign but the Russians actually had nothing to collude
with.”You have so grossly misunderstood this that you managed
to get it exactly backwards. From the report summary: “
Counsel did not find that the Trump Campaign, or anyone associated with it,
conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite
multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump
campaign.”The exact opposite of what you have stated is the
Barr did what Dear Leader hired him to do. Nothing more or less.
Goldstein 84-Right, I'm sure you would read every bit of documentation that
it took Mueller two years to compile. And by the way, how can you obstruct
justice when there never was a crime to begin with? It was an investigation
looking for a crime. That is not what our system of justice is about. You have
to have a crime to investigate to begin with.
This does not come as a surprise to any of us who watch FOX news where they
actually get the facts before they report them. If you have been watching fake
news cnn and msnbc then you must be really shocked. Those cable news stations
should fire every single one of their employees who have been pushing the
Russian Collusion theory for it seems like an eternity.,
Truthczar - Colorado Springs, COMarch 24, 2019 6:04 p.m."A
big waste of time; a bigger waste of money."One of Donald
Trump's favorite tactics is to repeat some falsehood over and over until
his people start to believe it. In this case, the word is "exoneration".
William Burr, in his released summary of the Mueller report, said that Robert
Mueller didn't find sufficient evidence to prove conspiracy beyond a
reasonable doubt, but that Trump wasn't exonerated by the investigation.
Understand what that means. There wasn't the evidence to lead to an
indictment, but neither did the findings establish that he was not guilty of
conspiracy. There's a big difference and you must pay attention to the
phasing of the statement.The Trump campaign may not have been
actively involved in asking for negative information on Hillary Clinton to swing
the election in Trump's favor, but they may have been very aware of what
was going on and didn't move to stop it. In other words, they liked all the
help they got. However, we still don't know what was discussed at the Trump
Tower meeting or any of the meetings Trump had with Vladimir Putin. Insufficient evidence is just that. Insufficient.
Hard to see why Trump fans are so joyous about this. All we've been given
is a "summary" by a Trump crony (Barr) doing what his boss expected of
him.The full report is no doubt far more nuanced and ambiguous.
Mueller refused to give an opinion regarding Trump's guilt or innocence on
the obstruction of justice part. Barr himself admitted that the report
"does not exonerate" Trump.The only way to clear up the
confusion is for each of us to be allowed to read it and draw our own
conclusions. Will Trump and his team let that happen? We'll see.
A big waste of time; a bigger waste of money.
Best way to drain the swamp?Investigate Congress, DOJ, and the FBI
in the same manner Trump has been.
We didn't need an investigation with $25 mil price tag to know there was no
collusion. That is the sad truth because anyone that paid attention to how this
got started it was very clear from the very beginning that politics played a
major role in using the fake dossier to kick start the whole investigations.
What did the report say? None of us know. We have 4 pages that two Trump
appointee's wrote in less than 48 hrs. that summarizes their opinions on
two years and hundreds of thousands of documents generated by the Mueller team.
They said that their was not enough proof of planned effort to collude with the
Russians. Far from innocent, far from no wrong doing. Mueller did not reach a
conclusion, again these are Trump appointee's came to these conclusions.
The AG was at least honest enough to say that this document did not exonerate
the President from wrong doing. Still lots of things left to learn
about what the President, his children and his operatives did or didn't do
in relation to Russian contacts and other potential illegal activities. This
was good news for the President and of course he claimed victory before the end
of the game. Let's see what the other jurisdictions find, and if this
proves he is innocent, then he should demand that the entirety of the Mueller
Report be released so that we can all see his innocence.
There is a big difference between being "innocent" and "not guilty
under the law". The two are not the same.The obstruction of
justice issue probably falls into the "not guilty under the law"
category??Hardly a "nothing burger". There are a few guys
going to prison.
We told you so!
They should investigate the origins of the dossier. Where it came from who
financed it. Who lied to the fisa courts. And they should be held accountable.
Now that this Witch Hunt ,Hog Wash and Smoke Screen is finally over , how long
will it take to indict and charge Hillary Clinton with at the very least Treason
against this Country which was the only thing that has been found to be true
during the course of this investigation ! This Country should be ashamed of the
lack of respect that President Trump has been given by the liberals and the
Is is nothing but hateful Politics. Dems basically promised if
Mueller could complete his report then they would be satisfied. Now they are
again changing their position as well as the crime that Trump would be charged
with.No "conspiracy to collude / coordinate with Russia" has
been proven by Mueller. If their was any evidence to support it his team of
highly partisan investigators would have found it. Too bad they didnt look at
Hillarys campaign at the same time. Just becuase you pay someone else to work
with Russia doesnt make you less responsible. I know it is not over
but it should be.
Lots of weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth in the Democratic Party today.
Oh the humanity!
A very bad day for Democrats.
@Joe Leaphorn - Scottsdale, AZMarch 24, 2019 1:44 p.m.As per
the LA Times, NY Times and others, Democrats claim that they will subpoena
Mueller to make sure there was no presidential interference in the probe. There
will be an investigation into the investigation. Try searching latest news
Looks like hillary, msnbc and cnn all just lost on their own in 2016. lol
We all knew nothing happened 2 1/2 years ago, so there's no surprise here.
It'll be interesting to see what the dems come up with next. Trump by a
What appears to be missing here is the report on illegal activity within the
government. Surely Mueller could see an FBI and DOJ out to insure that Trump not
take office.A government confederate with the DNC and Fusion GPS to
use a false campaign investigation as the basis for wiretapping digging into the
lives of citizens.What about sting operations planted in the Trump
campaign to create false evidence of a back-channel?The short answer
is that Mueller lived in that same regulatory state his entire career and could
not (or would not) see what was going on.The long answer is that the
deep state is capable of attempting a coup without being punished for it. That
needs to be fixed.Instead, the anti-Trump campaign will continue in
an effort to limit the effect of his reforms, and hoping to end his presidency
by November 2020 at the latest.
The Mueller report findings mean that every hour of reporting by several major
news organizations over the past 2 years was full of false accusations, lies,
distortions, unnamed sources -- in other words, "fake news." It will be
telling to see how much of that continues.
Big note. The report said no collusion with Russia. No coordination with
Russia, the DNC hacking and Trump campaign. Now can the ani trumpers apologize
for that part of the fake news assaults.
In non-governmental circles, this would have been considered filing a false
police report and the suspect would be charged with a crime. But, since this
was nothing more than a political hit job by people who wanted to stage a coup
under the color of government protection, nothing will be done. Those who
pushed the obviously fake dossier will get away to try something else another
time.What I find amazing (although I shouldn't) is that the
Democrats own hatchet man couldn't find anything even smelling of collusion
yet they are not satisfied. They will continue wasting valuable time and money
on useless, pointless congressional "investigations." Grow up, get over
it and do something worthwhile to help the country, not hinder the country.
Mini explosions everywhere. Liberal heads are exploding. $25million nothing
burger. Well done Dems. Well done. LOL!
This is like the guy who’s been trash-talking a movie for months giving a
1 minute “summary” and saying “don’t go see
it.”Barr was hired to protect Trump. I don’t care what
he says, because he’s already made it clear he won’t act no matter
what. The full report needs to go to Congress and then to the
American people. I trust Mueller. I don’t trust Barr.
So what we knew all along is true:This whole farce investigation and
the media's attempt to tar and feather this president was nothing more than
a transparent attempt to delegitimize the 2016 election.It was all a
hoax.There never was any Russian collusion, and Attorney General
Barr makes clear that no case would be made against this president for
obstruction of justice either - another media canard.
Anybody could have told you that a long long time ago... and millions of dollars
agoCan’t drain the DC swamp fast enough
Based on his investigations, Mr Mueller and his team did not find coordination
or collusion with the Russian efforts to influence the election. Okay, unless
something new erupts, this issue is somewhat dead.Based on his
investigations, Mr Mueller and his team did not come to any conclusions about
obstructions of justice. Perhaps other issues as well. However, this does not
mean that there is no "there, there". Merely that his team was
conflicted on indictments or did not possess a complete assessment for either
conclusion. In other words, it is still an open question.Now, what
else is in that report? And what referrals have been made to the appropriate
Government Attorneys to pursue investigations not connected to the focus of the
Special Prosecutor? These two questions are quite relevant, perhaps more so
than we know at this moment.Just because the President, his family
and his associates are not now connected to collusion with the obvious Russian
efforts to get Trump elected in 2016, does not necessarily mean the entire
affair is dead. Nor that other looks into his other questionable acts merit
vindication of Trump.
One of the shortest investigations we’ve had in awhile. Has Mueller
generated enough billing cycles?
Impartial7: "You would think that Trump...would be leading the charge to
release the entire report that exonerates him-right?"You have a
basic misunderstanding of how the justice system works. Beyond the Privacy Act
and restrictions on releasing classified material and grand-jury testimony, the
Department of Justice, the FBI and special prosecutors DO NOT exonerate people.
They indict and prosecute people. If they can't, they do nothing at all.
The American justice system assumes innocence until proven guilty.
If someone is investigated but not charged, they have the presumption of
innocence. If someone is charged but not convicted, they retain their innocence.
So Trump has been innocent of colluding with Russia all along.
Because no charges were brought, he is still innocent. Of course many of us
predicted this from the outset, but who cares about wasting two years and tens
of millions of dollars if it will satisfy the democrats, right? No. They will
not be satisfied. Now they want an additional source from which to slander
This only answers some questions. Trump is facing many investigations and
lawsuits that will each have to be resolved. We do not know if he is guilty of
tax evasion, violating the emoluments clause, violating federal election laws,
charitable foundation laws, and many other things. The important
thing is that all of the truth comes out about all of these things whether the
truth favors Trump or doesn't. It shouldn't be about pleasing parties
or individuals but about getting at the truth and making the truth public.
Then just release the report if it's nothing that bad (i.e. similar to how
the Clinton email thing led to no charges but critique of poor judgement).
How embarrassing for the Dems and the communication arm of their party.
Broadcasters at CNN, MSNBC, and the others should be ashamed of the two years
and hundreds of stories full of lies that they are responsible for. They are a
If you read the notes and definitions Trump and the boys got lucky. They were
more than willing to meet with Russians 100 times during the campaign but the
Russians actually had nothing to collude with. The finding of no
obstruction rests on definitions also (if no crime how can you obstruct?).
That's Barr's conclusion, Mueller completely punted. He specifically
said we aren't charging but that does not exonerate either. This makes Pelosi look genius by putting on the brakes around impeachment.
n8ive american - Shelley, IdahoMarch 24, 2019 9:41 a.m."Now they want the investigator investigated because he did his job and
found nothing therefore, he must have done something wrong."Who
wants and investigation of the investigator? We've not heard or read this,
so tell us who?And how can you say the investigators "found
nothing". Nothing has come out so far to the public. So, how do you know?Or is this typical smoke and mirrors nonsense?
@impartial7umm.. Trump did lead the charge and wants the the
findings to be made public with full transparency. He has actually mentioned
this several times via his twitter account . Perhaps you guys have been watching
CNN or MSNBC because those networks don’t report what he actually says.
Also Trump could have but did not fire Mueller even though he could have. Please
educate yourselves and go out vote!
Nothing to see here. Move along.Except they won't.Now they want the investigator investigated because he did his job and found
nothing therefore, he must have done something wrong.
You would think that Trump, if he's as pure as he claims to be, would be
leading the charge to release the entire report that exonerates him-right?
Unless, he's been less than honest with the American public.