The college admissions scandal revealed what can happen when a moral compass breaks. How can people fix this?

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  • China is Spying ,
    May 14, 2019 10:33 p.m.

    Behold the fruit of "situational Morality"- the code of the left.

  • walkingman24 Orem, UT
    March 22, 2019 12:31 p.m.

    "liberal courts and politicians have put us on this downward spiral, and now society is suffering the consequences"

    Woah, that's quite the jump. How did you arrive at the conclusion this is a "liberal" issue?

  • not status quo Bountiful, UT
    March 22, 2019 1:03 a.m.

    The key word here is "breaks". When the moral compass is broken, it isn't something that can be glued back together. The liberal courts and politicians have put us on this downward spiral, and now society is suffering the consequences. There seems to be such outrage over this while bribery and immoral actions seem to be common place.

  • Greg Green Riverton, UT
    March 22, 2019 12:43 a.m.

    Thankfully, This is not the case all the time. However as society slowly slips down the slope. It seems more and more people believe their money can buy and or fix everything. Also if you have the money, someone else can be bought. Even to the point of abandoning integrity and honesty. Then of course they rationalize what's wrong is right.

  • Light and Liberty St George, UT
    March 21, 2019 11:52 p.m.

    "Under socialism you can get up when you want. Choose and marry who you want. You can own personal property. Your wife and daughters aren't used for breeding. Your family members aren't sold to others never to be seen again." So says Utahbluedevil

    Nonsense. This description of 'Socialism" sounds like something out of a Utopian fiction novel.
    Animals can choose who they want to marry and Cattle can get up in the morning too. But, then again, we humans aren't animals. Socialism does not offer anything remotely humane. Capitalism is not a religion. It is about choice. It allows people to produce wealth. Period.
    I don't know about you, but I want to do with my money everything except what the government constitutionally requires of me, not what a politician or mob decides what it shall do with my money. Emphasis is on 'my'. Our education system has surely failed if we can't help some to understand the basic evils of Socialism. Capitalism is no utopian paradise. It just happens to have produced more wealth than any country in the history of mankind. I don't need the government or some despot helping me figure out how to spend it either, even a little.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    March 21, 2019 7:39 p.m.

    Six Americans are as wealthy as half of all of us. Drug makers charge whatever they want. We want to take guns to church because we feel unsafe. We've taken children from their parents and put them in cages. Millions of us are one illness away from bankruptcy.

    Rich people buy spots for their kids at colleges most of us could not dream of being able to send our kids to.

    Our moral compass may be askew, but it's been so for some time.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    March 21, 2019 6:57 p.m.

    @ RiDal

    "...many people's erroneous interpretation of the 3/5ths compromise."

    No, I understand just fine, thanks. But you seem not to realize that the fact that the slaves were talked about only in terms of the political power they could gain for their owners supports my point and refutes your own.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    March 21, 2019 6:20 p.m.

    " In a free market, people make decisions. It is all voluntary. It doesn't care what color, gender, age, or size. The market works in an invisible hand to bring 'equality' and stability to society.'

    What ? When and where did this egalitarian society ever exist? This utopian version of capitalism never has, and likely never will exist, unless somehow we are able to breed out greed from human nature.

    Thid said "Socialism is when one group of citizens is forced to work for that which they will not receive so another group will receive that for which they did not work, (EARN). We used to call that slavery but its really just socialism,"

    Socialism in no way proximate slavery. Under socialism you can get up when you want. Choose and marry who you want. You can own personal property. Your wife and daughters aren't used for breeding. Your family members aren't sold to others never to be seen again. The list goes on and on. I'm shocked that you can't clearly see the differences. Have you ever been to a country that practices socialism? My guess is not.

  • RedShirtCalTech Pasedena, CA
    March 21, 2019 4:55 p.m.

    To "Karen R." I can answer that. Yes, the founding fathers went through something like your thought experiment.

    You see, back then you could live in the US and not have any skin in the game.

    The question now is how do you define who has skin in the game? Is it land owners, people who pay income taxes, people who own businesses? Do you no longer have skin in the game if you depend on the government for basic living expenses?

  • jeclar2006 Oceanside, CA
    March 21, 2019 4:25 p.m.

    RiDal - Sandy, UT
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    Ironically, the anti-slavery North wanted slaves to count for zero, so as to reduce the influence of Southern States. The defenders of slavery wanted slaves to count fully in their population, because they wanted more power in the House of Representatives and knew that slaves couldn't vote.
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    The 3/5ths compromise wouldn't even be under discussion, had the Constitution been written with the 'all men are created equal' in mind and attendant morality implied by the Declaration of Independence that 'men' included whites and non-whites, and while we are at it 'women' as well.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    March 21, 2019 3:39 p.m.

    @Karen R:
    "Read Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3 of the Constitution and then tell me if you still think the founders did this thought experiment before writing that part."

    Yes, there is some ignorance of history revealed in many people's erroneous interpretation of the 3/5ths compromise. The United States was almost not formed at all because of the contentions over slavery, which was vigorously opposed in the North, yet demanded by the South. The 3/5ths compromise was a compromise over Representation in Congress. No one was claiming that a slave was "only 3/5ths of a human". Ironically, the anti-slavery North wanted slaves to count for zero, so as to reduce the influence of Southern States. The defenders of slavery wanted slaves to count fully in their population, because they wanted more power in the House of Representatives and knew that slaves couldn't vote.

    So the 3/5ths compromise actually represents the initiation of the effort to abolish slavery, with the abolitionists wanting an even lower number!

    It is important to remember that there is a context to human history.

  • Light and Liberty St George, UT
    March 21, 2019 3:18 p.m.

    Socialist Apologists: What happens when government makes decisions? Go ahead, try to tell the government that you don't want to live by its laws. It is called compulsion. In a free market, people make decisions. It is all voluntary. It doesn't care what color, gender, age, or size. The market works in an invisible hand to bring 'equality' and stability to society. Everyone is free to choose. In a free market nobody compels you to have a cel phone, life insurance, a big house, a big screen TV. In a government controlled market, in the utopia of Socialism, even though anyone involved is compelled to live the way the government wants you to live and make the decisions for you, there is no freedom. I like freedom. This criticism of the rich is a red herring for those wanting to control people's lives. Relatively, the Robber Barons controlled a lot more wealth than the rich today. Envy of the rich is no excuse if you are a Christian. I don't recall that envy of materialism was a part of his Sermon on the Mount. It doesn't matter if the Rich are greedy and selfish. That is not my problem. That is their problem. Leave me alone, Socialists.

  • blackattack Orem, UT
    March 21, 2019 2:20 p.m.

    Moral relativity is breaking the moral compass. Why?

    Because there is no longer a true north to follow.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    March 21, 2019 2:16 p.m.

    @ RiDal

    "I heard of that too. It was called 'The United States Constitution'."

    The philosophical concept is referred to as "the veil of ignorance." It attempts to neutralize natural human biases/prejudices by getting people to think about what kind of ethical system they'd design if they didn't know what position in society they'd hold.

    Read Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3 of the Constitution and then tell me if you still think the founders did this thought experiment before writing that part.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    March 21, 2019 1:58 p.m.

    "Who knew the Trumps were so progressive way back in the 60s."

    The definitive symptom of Trump Derangement Syndrome is: When any article, on any subject, and regarding any decade of history, can be "logically" connected to a reason Trump is evil.

    :D

  • Dejah Provo, UT
    March 21, 2019 1:48 p.m.

    This is what's wrong with religion, ooooh gay marriage is okay so apparently there are no morals or ethics anymore!? How does ssm hurt you? It doesn't you just imagine it does. On the other hand this bribery scandal DID hurt people, some qualified student didn't get into college because a rich kid cheated. All those who have ever complained about affirmitive action, blaming PoC for their kid not getting in when it was rich, mostly white, kids taking those spots but keep your focus on blaming the PoC right?

    So much contradiction in many of these comments. 'It's been going on forever' quickly followed by 'we have no morals now'. So which is it? You don't get to have it both ways.

    Also I didn't realize Lori Laughlin was an avowed atheist. The two Hollywood actesses are not the only parents charged, people may want to read up on the others charged before they go off on 'the left' and Hollywood as the bastions of immorality as if they are the heart of this scandal.

    Full term abortion is propaganda, doesn't happen, is illegal, no doctor does it. Please educate yourselves.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    March 21, 2019 1:15 p.m.

    News Flash - new definition for socialism per our friend in Idaho. Socialism is when Rich people gain privilege by using their wealth to take away spots in college from people who should have earned that spot but didn't have the funds to match the rich persons bribe.

    Who knew the Trumps were so progressive way back in the 60s. Bought their boy into college... bought their boy a pass from the draft. I knew the Trumps were socialist... just dawn on me that socialism is when the rich used their wealth to gain advantage over the average person.

    Of course the "typical" but now wrong definition of Socialism used to be "any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods"

    Like what happened at USC. (sigh)

  • oilerfan Katy, TX
    March 21, 2019 12:53 p.m.

    I'm not sure why everyone is up in arms or shocked. This has been going on for years. Big companies get around city ordinaces or building codes, the school board kid plays over others, kids gain favor for changing High Schools for athletic reasons, rich often buy their way out of jail time or from being prosecuted, kids get into military schools because of parents (McCain), Athletes get into schools (Some don't even go to class or go to jobs thaat pay them), kids of politicians or coaches get jobs off of Daddies reputation or promised favor, etc........

    Our society has been favoring people for years through affirmative action and we say nothing.

    Worst of all, This is our politicians way of life. They trade money or favors to interest groups all the time. This is how they leave office wealthy. If we want to get rid of a scam, let's it straight from the top down and make these men and women govern for us not lobbyist (may of these lobbyist are related to the politicains)

    So please, Romney, Hatch, Warren, Lee,etc... don't comment on these weatlhy folks trying to get there kids ahead in life.

  • jeclar2006 Oceanside, CA
    March 21, 2019 12:48 p.m.

    Light and Liberty - St George, UT
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    Utahbluedevil: Socialism is evil. Socialists are driven toward equality of outcome. This 'equality' thing is the biggest farce upon humanity that has ever happened to destroy liberty and happiness.
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    When did liberty and happiness reigned supreme. It sure was not prior to the Civil War, when slavery existed. To be sure there were some who were at liberty, and presumable enjoying happiness.

    It was not during the late 19th Century, with the rise of massive manufacturing monopolies, both in the sense of market control, as well as labor control. We even have pictorial documentation of the massive slums the industrial age produced, where there was little liberty and much unhappiness.

    Or perhaps more apropos to Utah, it was not when Mormons were driven from their homes, some killed, others 'domestically deported', or still others who fled to the West.

    As for 'socialism', a farm 'cooperative' is a socialist entity, namely a collection of members for the common benefit, whether it is use of cooperative owned equipment, presentation of the cooperative's products for sale to the market, or transferring goods and services among the members.

  • Just another Comment Bountiful, UT
    March 21, 2019 12:43 p.m.

    I must have a broken moral compass. I don’t see why this situation is wrong. I was born to a single mother, never had the educational opportunities other kids my age did, didn’t have money or time to do sports or music because as a child I worked and gave my income to my mother to help us survive. I never had the toys or tools or books to succeed like other middle class families had. We couldn’t afford much food, nor the medical and dental care we needed.

    Life isn’t fair. American middle class families buy their children all kinds of experiences, health and dental care and educational opportunities to help their offspring succeed. So why pick on the uber wealthy? They’re doing the exact same thing as everyone else in America. Buying their way to success. They just have more money to buy success. It’s the American way. If you want fairness, then give every kid in America health and dental care, FOOD, computers, books and other tools they need to succeed.

    What’s immoral is that we buy cheap goods from third world countries, not paying sufficient for people in those countries to afford even an elementary education. Where’s the outrage over the immorality of that?

  • jeclar2006 Oceanside, CA
    March 21, 2019 12:28 p.m.

    Count Rushmore - Salt Lake City, UT
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    If adultery, gay marriage, and abortion are ok, it's simply hypocrisy to worry about bribery. But inconsistency and contradiction are hardly new to the left.
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    Such 'reasoning' demonstrates a non sequitur common among 'conservatives'. In the 3 listed items, all involve individuals and their individual free choices.

    In the case of 'bribery', this involves two individuals, at least, paying for some benefit, to the detriment of others, in the sense that the 'fee' is not offered to others for the service/benefit.

    If a university clearly states, 'pay us big bucks, and your child will be matriculated as a student', then it is clear what the criteria for admission is.

    That 'rule' has been implicitly in place for years, centuries, millennia...

  • chans WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    March 21, 2019 12:20 p.m.

    We have a presidential candidate who has lied about her race and took the scholarship of a real Native American and she has been given a pass by the mainstream media and the rest of her party this is as bad as the cheating scandal yet nothing is done

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    March 21, 2019 11:43 a.m.

    @Karen R:
    "I recently heard of this idea for the foundation of an ethical system (sorry, I can't recall the name of the person responsible for it): Design it as if you had no idea where you might fall in the hierarchy of the system, i.e., born into relative affluence or poverty, intelligent or not so intelligent, slave or slave owner, etc. That's where we'll find the motivation to make it as fair as possible - when we have some skin in the game."

    I heard of that too.

    It was called "The United States Constitution".

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    March 21, 2019 11:38 a.m.

    Morality became blurred when the liberal "post modern" notion of "relative truth" became entrenched in academia.
    "Relative truth" means "relative morality" which means "shiftable, bendable morality" which means "morality corrupted by rationalizations". .....Which means "immorality".

    The "elites" really believe that they "deserve" special treatment. After all, they are doing all the right virtue signalling!

  • mamamia Provo, UT
    March 21, 2019 11:32 a.m.

    Such a Shame, and so sad when people disregard their morals for something that can pretty much destroy their lives. So many are affected by the actions of ONE. Especially family! Not worth it! So, so sad!

  • dgw Clovis, CA
    March 21, 2019 11:23 a.m.

    It is sad that people turn a discussion about ethics and morals into a discussion about politics. Both political parties have problems with ethics and morals, in history and currently. Though it is definitely a problem with the rich elite, it is also a problem with many others at lower economic levels. It is a feeling of entitlement. One word that is used so often these days is "deserve". This speaks of entitlement. An athlete says, "I have been training 6 hours a day, and I 'deserve' to win." The athlete is thinking only of him/herself, not thinking about the fact that his/her competitor(s) may have been training 7 or 8 hours a day, or have been blessed with better genes/height/etc! As the article states, when we don't think of others, their efforts, their rights, we lose our moral compass.

    The problem really comes down to selfishness; what we want, regardless of others.

  • mrjj69 bountiful, UT
    March 21, 2019 11:22 a.m.

    Greed seems to be running at an all time high. The only time people regret criminal and immoral behavior is when they get caught.

  • stand up for truth Lehi, UT
    March 21, 2019 11:05 a.m.

    We have a godless society so no wonder we find such deplorable behavior taken place. Without God there is no real incentive to have moral integrity. And certainly this society teaches that it is okay to take advantage of your neighbor and the system... "just don't get caught."

  • Light and Liberty St George, UT
    March 21, 2019 11:02 a.m.

    Utahbluedevil: Socialism is evil. Socialists are driven toward equality of outcome. This 'equality' thing is the biggest farce upon humanity that has ever happened to destroy liberty and happiness. I can't wait for someone to sue the NBA over 'equality' by making sure that we have the requisite number of Hispanics, Blacks, Whites, Asians, gender, etc. to make things 'equal'. The NBA is what it is because the number of people vying for a position there get there based on talent, skill, and hard work! Plain and simple! Socialism is mob democracy at its worst. It is manipulation of the mob by leaders wanting not righteousness, but control. Righteousness uplifts a nation, not Socialism. Socialism takes from one who has earned it and gives it to another who hasn't. Have you done any favors to the person who is given something without earning it? No, his/her self worth goes from bad to worse because he/she knows it wasn't earned. Socialism is a forced attempt to make society better, but in reality destroys it. Civility and goodness go out the door because government is trying to control citizens thoughts and actions. Socialism is evil.

  • dmcvey Los Angeles, CA
    March 21, 2019 10:41 a.m.

    @Christmas Carole

    What "solid morals" are you talking about? Our country started with slavery and the genocide of Native Americans. Racism has been a constant feature as well as the unfair treatment of racial and social minorities and of the working class and poor.

    What do you consider "moral" about that?

  • AwakenedCitizen Salt Lake City, UT
    March 21, 2019 10:29 a.m.

    These elites were not paying to get their kids into Ivy league Universities. These elite universities and celebrates and coaches, were running a human trafficking ring. They don't need to pay big bucks to get their kids into Ivy league schools...they're already elite, they have an open invitation.

    The Penn State's football team scandal? Sandusky.....was, and many others were abusing underage, under privilege kids. And everyone knew and did nothing.

    Well, these Ivy league schools are involved in child trafficking. The elites were paying for kids. And using the admission into schools, as a front.

    What you also have to understand.....is these indictments on money laundering.....are the easiest way to take down child predictors. It's much, much harder to trace the trafficking, and much harder to prove. But money laundering....is a much easier and more fail proof way, of taking them down.

    You've got elite schools (pedo havens), you got Hwood (pedo haven), you've got elite sport's coaches (pedos).... Remember, pedos run in rings. If a pedo is running an Ivy league school, you better believe, they're bringing on staff and coaches, that have the same preferences.

  • Flipphone , 00
    March 21, 2019 10:26 a.m.

    Universities and Holy wood are passions of Liberalsim, this pay to play should not be shocking?

  • FTF Park City, UT
    March 21, 2019 10:14 a.m.

    The American moral compass is working just fine. This is what it is supposed to do -- concentrate wealth in a tiny elite who will then use it to tilt the game board even more in their favor. Create huge inequality, and human nature will take care of the rest.

    Oh, you want different moral compass? Then you're going to have import some new parts from places where that different moral compass works, where things can be easily dismissed as non-American and globalist. Until America opens its mind to new moral compasses, you need to embrace the one we have.

  • New to Utah Provo, UT
    March 21, 2019 9:59 a.m.

    The Hollywood liberal elite Huffman, Mcloughlin, California universities USC, Stanford. East Coast elites Yale, GeorgeTown, Connecticut, DC. It’s clear those privileged, influencial elites don’t play by the same rules but are the quickest to condemn anything that falls outside their political correctness. This includes abortion up to birth, free college tuition, savaging the constitution to pact Supreme Court. Thank goodness this scheme was discovered and those participated are exposed.

  • Christmas Carole Hurricane, UT
    March 21, 2019 9:49 a.m.

    I've watched the country go from solid morals to loose morals.I've seen society swing from'closet secrets'of differing abuses to parents hands tied almost prohibiting their parental rights to raise their children.I've seen society swing from racism and gender inequality to unqualified people being given positions because of skin color and gender rather than how qualified they are.We have become a society of sidestepping personal accountability.It appears that bad behavior is caused by other sources than our own...caused by our economic/ethnic/gender background.Leaders are not held to the same laws as average citizens as one person who put classified info on a public server with the average person being put in prison for years.We are surrounded by citizens who constantly point fingers with their minds firmly cemented that much stated is meant racist,etc.One is concerned to open one's mouth lest the politically correct police pounce.We need to get back to INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTABILITY.We need to swing back to the middle of the road and to treat others as we want to be treated.We need,as Martin Luther King stated,to have us ALL judged upon our character NOT skin color,gender,etc

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    March 21, 2019 9:24 a.m.

    UtahBlueDevil: Perhaps I can help you understand what socialism encompasses. Socialism is when one group of citizens is forced to work for that which they will not receive so another group will receive that for which they did not work, (EARN). We used to call that slavery but its really just socialism, like getting into a college when they did not earn the privilege at the expense of those who worked to get into the college? Getting something for nothing is socialism! No one should be surprised at this, haven't Democrats been promising "free" college? Don't Democrats promise "free" everything while other citizens are forced to pay for it all? Yup! That's socialism!

  • SG in SLC Salt Lake City, UT
    March 21, 2019 9:20 a.m.

    "Re BO

    The Uber wealthy who got their kids into elite schools by giving the schools big gifts didn't cheat. They paid the schools and the schools gave them services in return." -cjb

    Wow. Just, wow.

    Of course they cheated!! They bypassed the normal standards and rules for the college admissions! Bribery is NOT okay; quid pro quo is NOT okay.

    Capitalism, with its tendency to reward effort, innovation, and productivity (coupled with some luck), is a generally superior economic system in my opinion, but it does have a fundamental flaw: its "Gilded Age" tendency to concentrate wealth (and the accompanying sense of entitlement and hubris) toward the top of the economic ladder. It seems that we are really not that far removed from the aristocracy/nobility peerage system of European history.

  • dmcvey Los Angeles, CA
    March 21, 2019 9:11 a.m.

    There are far worse things that happen when the moral compass breaks down such as; children being separated from their parents and locked in cages, mass shootings that happen over and over and nothing ever gets done about it, people dying from curable diseases because they can't afford healthcare, people losing their homes because they can't pay medical bills...

    The college scandal is bad and shows what happens when society is corrupt--but it's hardly a new thing.

  • No One Of Consequence Salt Lake City, UT
    March 21, 2019 9:11 a.m.

    There is nothing new here. The rich have been using their money to buy privileges since there was money. The only reason these events are important is that they serve the interests of people pushing for more government control, and yes, pushing the "free college" nonsense.

    So much effort for so long to push religion and morals aside in public places and now people are crying for moral, ethical behavior. When greed and power are preached as guiding virtues instead of righteous behavior, people will follow what they are taught.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    March 21, 2019 9:03 a.m.

    "This is just more of the natural outcome of the entitlement mentality of socialism!"

    Socialism? Where resources are controlled and distributed in an attempt at equality? Hardly. Im starting to think you don't know what socialism is. Its just a word that gets thrown around as some kind of evil.

    Socialism would mean everyone would have a chance to get in regardless of means. This is the polar opposite. This is I am entitled because I am rich. Not very socialist at all. I'm not going to blame this on Capitalism - other than at its extreme it is survival of the fittest (wealthiest). And the more approximates what is going on here.

    Both groups have problems with entitlement - no doubt. But they are manifest in very different ways. Buying yourself into privilege is not socialism. Under any definition.

  • There You Go Again St George, UT
    March 21, 2019 8:47 a.m.

    What can happen when a moral compass breaks?

    This piece describes a failure of integrity, ethics and morals.

    Big problem.

    The failure of integrity, ethics and morals in the WH?

    No problem... for some people.

    Sad.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    March 21, 2019 8:18 a.m.

    This is just more of the natural outcome of the entitlement mentality of socialism! I demand to receive what I didn't work for, what I didn't earn because I am entitled to benefit from other people's work! Democrats are always promising something for nothing!

  • casual observer Salt Lake City, UT
    March 21, 2019 8:18 a.m.

    When material takes precedence over ethical, anything can be bought or sold. This scandal is merely an expression of the privilege assumed by some wealthy persons. We are all saddened and perhaps angry, but only the naive are surprised. Most people profess some moral value system, religious or otherwise, but actually practicing those values is the metric for judgment.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    March 21, 2019 8:13 a.m.

    If you look into government funding for science in collages 40 percent of what is fact was actually to be proved. Government isn't any better for paying for the results.

  • neece Hyde Park, UT
    March 21, 2019 8:04 a.m.

    its all about ethics, moral compass, justification, ... but it seems to me that the rich who have money have their views, and morals skewed by that money. They get the "best of the best" so therefore think they deserve to be above everyone else. The thought is well why not? but as others have said the moral compass hardly even exists with our government. Why punish the 55 parents when it is so prevalent? I say you have to start somewhere. They wouldn't get away with it had the college officials didn't smash their moral ethics and values. To me by making it public and in the case of Lori Laughlin she had all her shows canceled and pulled. I think by showing them that yes they have money. Are they better than us NO! That the america I grew up in wouldn't tolerate this. So sorry I think they deserve what they get.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    March 21, 2019 7:54 a.m.

    Why would any rational person be surprised at this? This is the result of the left's entitlement mentality! I am OWED what I didn't work for, what I didn't earn! Its just more socialism!

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    March 21, 2019 7:51 a.m.

    @kitsutsuki - South Jordan, Utah
    March 21, 2019 6:34 a.m.
    These are the same left-leaning liberals who castigates any and all who don’t do or agree with their agenda. I’ll take my simple home and modest income any day vs becoming who and what they are."

    Many were Republicans that work on Wall Street, run Hedge Funds and own companies. So is the main guy behind it. This isn't political, it's an equal opportunity bribery scheme.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    March 21, 2019 7:36 a.m.

    @CountRushmore;
    "If adultery, gay marriage, and abortion are ok, it's simply hypocrisy to worry about bribery. But inconsistency and contradiction are hardly new to the left."

    The left? YOUR Republican President is guilty of 2/3's of the "sins" you posted.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    March 21, 2019 7:30 a.m.

    This whole thing is so sad and disgusting.

    Moving along in this deception scenario, I hope that the whole story will finally come out soon on the conspiracy by some in the DOJ to take out our sitting President.

    This is along the same moral compass, I feel.

  • BYU Papa Cedar Hills, ut
    March 21, 2019 7:24 a.m.

    It is interesting that these investigations always seem to destroy good things I.e. Hallmark channel uplifting programs. Trash is left alone.

    I am glad The FBI uncovered a scandal by parents who use bribery and other means to get their children into a University. But, what good does it do them.

    Are tests and admissions really fair to all young people?

    Are there more significant issues they should be involved in investigation .
    I.e. Government politicians becoming extremely rich while in office. Selling national products to our enemies, Taking the life of full term babies and calling it legal.

  • emb Pleasant Grove, UT
    March 21, 2019 6:53 a.m.

    In my view these kind of folks embrace few of the values that are core to the success of this great nation.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    March 21, 2019 6:47 a.m.

    @ kbee

    Religion and divine authority have often been used just as this article describes - as the means to convince oneself that her/his behavior isn't harmful, no. It's noble. It's "love."

    So I don't see your solution as a surefire antidote to the problems highlighted by this scandal. Valuing status, status symbols, and appearances over substance also exist within and sometimes because of religion.

    I recently heard of this idea for the foundation of an ethical system (sorry, I can't recall the name of the person responsible for it): Design it as if you had no idea where you might fall in the hierarchy of the system, i.e., born into relative affluence or poverty, intelligent or not so intelligent, slave or slave owner, etc. That's where we'll find the motivation to make it as fair as possible - when we have some skin in the game.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    March 21, 2019 6:38 a.m.

    I am a very religious person, try to live in harmony with my beliefs. But the idea that "religion" is the simple answer here is dubious in my opinion. Why would I say that? Some of the worlds most horrific acts have been done in the name of religion. It takes only even the cursory review of history to see how religion has been used as the justification of some of the most brutal acts against other people. Religion has been abused by some as justification for very selfish acts.

    Rather, I look at entitlement, a sense of privilege as the real issue. Entitlement to privilege, to lands, to status in society. That one is entitled to privilege. Look at our own society. We create celebrity of people who themselves have done nothing really to gain their vaunted position in society. The Kardashians are a prime example. Millions watch and follow what they do, and accept their behavior. Why? Because the Kardashians believe they are superior. When someone feels they are superior to others, they feel they deserve to live privileged lives better than others.

    Society has bought off on the idea of celebrity, and with it, comes special rights.

  • Opinionated Sandy, UT
    March 21, 2019 6:35 a.m.

    Bribery has been around for 1000's of years. It is in the internal fabric of our society, albeit to varying degrees. However, for companies, sport figures, celebrities, and politicians, it is just more noticeable because the numbers are bigger. Seems almost ridiculous to pick on 50 people when the problem is so pervasive.

  • kitsutsuki South Jordan, Utah
    March 21, 2019 6:34 a.m.

    These are the same left-leaning liberals who castigates any and all who don’t do or agree with their agenda. I’ll take my simple home and modest income any day vs becoming who and what they are.

  • The Atheist Provo, UT
    March 21, 2019 6:33 a.m.

    "Ethics and morality are generally anchored in centuries of religious rules taught within a family unit. Religion ( any religion) provides the compass. When a society begins separating itself from a higher divine power... How can there be true freedom if we must follow another persons’ morality especially when God doesn’t exist?"

    Nonsense!

    These criminals were known believers!

    Stop mindlessly disparaging non-believers! On the whole we are AT LEAST as moral and ethical as believers!

  • J. Smith Salt Lake City, UT
    March 21, 2019 5:06 a.m.

    We’re living in a time of global income inequality on a scale never before seen in history. Money is concentrated in the hands of fewer and fewer people around the world, and every year they have more of it than ever before. According to the 2018 World Inequality Report, those belonging to the wealthiest 0.1 percent of the global population have, since 1980, increased their combined wealth by as much as the poorest 50 percent. The combined net worth of all 2,208 of the world’s known billionaires is twice that of the poorest 2.5 billion people. By 2030, members of the wealthiest one percent of the global population are projected to hold 64 percent  a full two-thirds of the world’s wealth.

  • Spoc Ogden, UT
    March 21, 2019 4:46 a.m.

    Fully Present said "Schools should not cater to the wealthy, powerful, and entitled. They should be forced to treat all applicants the same and admittance be based on those that legitimately qualify to get in."

    What does that then say about the preferential treatment based on the color of one's skin of the Affirmative Action programs being run at many of these same institutions and athletic programs that coddle and cater to the athletes that are given preferential admission when they are not qualified and do not perform academically?

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    March 21, 2019 3:19 a.m.

    Unethical behavior is a slippery slope. Embezzlers start out small and not getting caught, but as they don't get caught, they take more and more.

    But one can climb up that slippery slope and become more ethical.

    Part of the universities' problem is that in the 1990's they put a lot of effort into managing how to get the biggest bang for their recruiting buck so they make calculations on given an applicant's financial resources and location, how big of a stipend is required to get them to come. They are trying to get a good ranking in the Chronicle of Higher Education.

    Their recruiting process is not transparent. It allows them to choose people based on questionable traits like race. But the lack of transparency also permits a coach to sneak someone in pick up a bribe.

    Colleges are not innocent victims here.

  • AT Pleasant Grove, UT
    March 21, 2019 2:38 a.m.

    If you are shaken by this "scandal" then the primary thing you have learned is that you do not understand how power works. The secondary thing you've learned is that you are not in the know. Money is the power to command goods and services. People who have an abundance of it use it to get what they want. That is the rule. You may think it's "unethical" - but that's because you are applying your rules to them. They have a different set of rules. Here's an example... A guy who owns a company wanted his kid to attend a Utah university. His kid missed the application deadline. One of the people consulting for him teaches at that school. Voila, scholarship offer, no problem with missing the application deadline, kid's in and smooth sailing. This is how things work. It's a different set of rules.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    March 21, 2019 1:36 a.m.

    Re BO

    The Uber wealthy who got their kids into elite schools by giving the schools big gifts didn't cheat. They paid the schools and the schools gave them services in return.

    That's not what happened in this scandal. The schools didn't get the money.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    March 21, 2019 1:22 a.m.

    Asking how the problem of school admissions cheating can be fixed it like asking how can the problem of shoplifting or bank robbery be fixed.

  • mominthetrenches South Jordan, UT
    March 21, 2019 12:42 a.m.

    So, so sad. Interesting article, breaking down how people actually believe in lying to accomplish a purpose that they believe is truly, morally correct. I am so disappointed in Lori Loughlin and the more I see her daughter's youtube clips, the more I am shocked at the level of entitlement that abounds. I guess these are people who are just used to the world revolving around their every move. Conversely, I am proud of those who enjoy fame and still make their kids earn their way, as Rob Lowe has pointed out. Need to see and hear more from people like him-good examples to look up to.

  • Lowell Steele Farmington, UT
    March 20, 2019 11:42 p.m.

    Setting out to change "America's" moral compass is tilting at windmills. With consistent effort, I can recalibrate my own moral compass, but no one else's. I've found the most effective way to keep that "true north" orientation is to relentlessly befriend everyone I meet. I introduce myself, and ask their name. If they're open to conversation, we talk. I want to learn their "story". By doing this, the people around me become more than a face or a name, or even a human, they become a friend. If I'm surrounded by friends who know my name and story, I find I'm much less likely to behave badly, boorishly, or unethically. I consider the situation, convenience, comfort and needs of those around me, instead of magnifying my own.

    I had no idea how profoundly the decision to make this a consistent habit would change me, but it truly has, and I commend it to anyone else who's willing to try the experiment. You'll not only become a nicer person, but you'll uncover a new source of joy in your everyday life!

  • my_two_cents_worth university place, WA
    March 20, 2019 11:36 p.m.

    "When people cast aside moral principles...they sometimes engage in mental gymnastics to justify their actions"

    Kinda like voting for and continuing to support Trump?

  • Count Rushmore Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2019 11:35 p.m.

    I thank my other commenters for confronting the moral freefall our society has been in for at least the past several decades. When popular culture declares sexual immorality AOK, including all its ancillary issues, then we shouldn't be surprised to see corruption everywhere.

    If adultery, gay marriage, and abortion are ok, it's simply hypocrisy to worry about bribery. But inconsistency and contradiction are hardly new to the left.

  • kbee Syracuse, UT
    March 20, 2019 10:55 p.m.

    Ethics and morality are generally anchored in centuries of religious rules taught within a family unit. Religion ( any religion) provides the compass. When a society begins separating itself from a higher divine power... and turning towards individual rules then moral chaos begins. If Adultry isn’t wrong...(the ultimate cheating.) ...why would any cheating matter? If aborting a full term infant is ok.....everything else is small in comparison. How can there be true freedom if we must follow another persons’ morality especially when God doesn’t exist?

  • BO Holladay, UT
    March 20, 2019 10:37 p.m.

    Yes they cheated and will pay the price. Guess who won't be punished for buying their children admission to the "best' schools? The uber wealthy. They gift large donations to the schools. Their children and grandchildren always get accepted and usually get fast tracked in the corporate world. We want a perfect world but we have corruption starting at the top.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    March 20, 2019 10:21 p.m.

    Get rid of money in politics. Let's start there. Corruption in college admissions? No surprise there.

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2019 10:10 p.m.

    Schools should not cater to the wealthy, powerful, and entitled. They should be forced to treat all applicants the same and admittance be based on those that legitimately qualify to get in.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    March 20, 2019 10:09 p.m.

    Moral compass?

    * we elect dishonest leaders
    * many Americans live off the earnings taken from others
    * almost half our people were born out of wedlock
    * our country has mismanaged over twenty trillion dollars it doesn't have
    * many Americans aborting babies as a way of solving problems

    College admissions is just part of Americas moral compass.